Kit Figsto Posted August 11 Posted August 11 I'm predicting that smart brick thing is going to fail. There's basically no reason why a playscale X-Wing should ever cost $100. I don't care if it shoots actual lasers out of it, the X-Wing should pretty much always be an affordable, entry-level set for anyone to get into LSW with. I saw a Reddit comment that sums up my feelings on these prices, the person basically said that the reason for all of LEGO's adult collectors that exist nowadays are because of people that were kids in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s. Yeah, LEGO was always expensive, but if they keep pricing kids out of the hobby, that adult base is just going to get smaller and smaller. Quote
brimbolet Posted August 11 Posted August 11 The smart brick was tested in the UK right? Any more information from there, does it actually work, what's the sound quality? Quote
Lordhelmet Posted August 11 Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Shiva said: Well, then the actual LEGO price tag is not that bad actually! How few stores were those prices from? aka total cost? 1 store - Lego.com PAB so free shipping, but here it would be plus tax (so would the set). Quote
Shiva Posted August 11 Posted August 11 11 minutes ago, Lordhelmet said: 1 store - Lego.com PAB so free shipping, but here it would be plus tax (so would the set). Ahh. So you do not have tax already calculated into the price. Quote
Lordhelmet Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Shiva said: Ahh. So you do not have tax already calculated into the price. Right so apples to apples would put the set at $172 (roughly) and $120 (roughly) for PAB. Plus there were two parts missing, that would either need to be bought in a different color or through brick link (they were the round 1x1 tile, and the round plate for the wheels). Edited August 11 by Lordhelmet Quote
Llewop Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) Oh great another X wing. At least there is a different TIE fighter. Genuinely feel bad for OT fans like of all the sets and ships they could do for the rebellion they flog a dead horse. Like you can defend this summer as it’s things we haven’t had before figure wise and design and colour wise. It’s not even aimed at kids they aren’t going to spend $100 on one LEGO set especially when for that money they could get 4/5 from other themes for the same money. actually I’m annoyed about the TIE advanced actually because it’s mean another Darth Vader figure and you know it won’t be a new design, it’s just so boring. thank god I can save a load of money next year. So far across all themes 2026 is looking absolutely shocking and uninspiring and even more overpriced than the crap they’ve produced this year. Genuinely hope they’ve saved all of their budget to go all out on the Mando and Grogu sets or even Ahsoka S2 otherwise might just sell up genuinely cba. genuinely has triggered me like parents could buy for their kids the x wing and tie mash up set get more figures for less than what one of the new x wing. And then to get a nice luke red 5 figure spend £10 on the mech and another £10 on the Vader one as that probably on the shelf somewhere warming up and you e got it all for a fraction of these two new sets. Edited August 11 by Llewop Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted August 11 Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Kit Figsto said: I'm predicting that smart brick thing is going to fail. There's basically no reason why a playscale X-Wing should ever cost $100. I don't care if it shoots actual lasers out of it, the X-Wing should pretty much always be an affordable, entry-level set for anyone to get into LSW with. I feel like anytime LEGO tries being innovative and incorporating things like smartphones AR, electric bricks etc. they end up failing miserably. People and kids genuinely don't care for those, according to my observations. We all just want good-looking, affordable sets with nice play features. A "smart brick" won't make a LEGO X-Wing any more exciting, especially when it effectively almost doubles its cost. Quote
Llewop Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) 2 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: I feel like anytime LEGO tries being innovative and incorporating things like smartphones AR, electric bricks etc. they end up failing miserably. People and kids genuinely don't care for those, according to my observations. We all just want good-looking, affordable sets with nice play features. A "smart brick" won't make a LEGO X-Wing any more exciting, especially when it effectively almost doubles its cost. Lego has been around for decades, kids have been playing with Lego for decades and have never needed any gimmicky tech to help play. Like you said every tech gimmick they’ve tried has failed. Even introducing this smart brick has failed I thought it was supposed to be out in some city sets last summer? Edited August 11 by Llewop Quote
Samppu Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) Oh, I am actually all in for gadgets like the Smart Brick. They may enable unseen play features in the right hands, and personally I would be willing to pay some premium for a set, if it included something of the sort. For me getting simply the laser shooters in 2014 began a whole new era of Lego building by enabling seriously cool functions in very cramped spaces. However, the question comes then down on the features and the quality of the Smart Brick itself. Sounds are cool already, but I can see some other potential depending how the scanning feature actually works. E.g. it would be quite exciting if you could "target" another ship or base with a ship in your hand, and if the Smart Brick hidden into the structure of your ship succeeded to scan the code part somewhere at the back of the aimed target, the Smart Brick would make a sound of an explosion as a sign of winning the dogfight or the bombing run being successful. Edited August 11 by Samppu Quote
Tariq j Posted August 11 Posted August 11 Not too sure how to feel about the smart brick. My worry is the precedence it sets. Sets like Ahsoka’s Jedi Interceptor or the 327th Battle pack are already quite pricey, I dread to think how much they would have cost if LEGO had put these smart bricks in sets like those. Quote
wicket Posted August 11 Posted August 11 $100 for 584 pieces is crazy… I’m worried the 2026 sets will make the horrible summer 2025 wave look reasonably priced Quote
Sucram Posted August 12 Posted August 12 Agree with everyone that the Death Star looks great, I think a vast improvement over the 2008 and 2016 ones, which I still consider poor sets for anyone over the age of 13. Am now looking into the cost of Bricklinking the 10143, seems a bit cheaper than this new set Quote
eldiano Posted August 12 Posted August 12 8 hours ago, RichardGoring said: I think it looks good, and is far better than just a large sphere, which would be fragile, awkward to put anywhere, and just look a bit dull. I like the dioramas and think they offer good looking models with a fun build. To cram a load of them together into a circle is neat and it looks fine, but it feels like there are really only tree areas that draw the eye - the throne room (which we already have), the laser, and the shuttle bay. Everything else feels kind of small and cramped, which is a shame. If there are a load of functions across it (which there could be), then it might improve the prospect of it further. But the value of this to me might be in three $100 dioramas, rather than a single $1000 set. I'm glad it exists and I hope to see it in real life at some point, but I won't get the set. I’m actually shocked people here had problems with it’s stability, It never wobbled with me for the longest time, even with toddlers tripping over it’s furniture LOL. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted August 12 Posted August 12 On 8/9/2025 at 1:32 AM, CloneCommando99 said: I do not plan on buying a single SW set for the rest of the year due to a combination of being awfully overpriced or repetitive clone slop. Instead, I’m going to have fun with Arkham which, unlike the majority of this year’s SW offerings, actually seems decently priced. I’ll of course wait for a 2x point and GWP window but still. Same here. I was talking to relatives the other day and realized that as of now, the only 2025 lego set I have purchased is a little $15 impulse buy from the Marvel Line (Iron Man mech with Ultron.) The year just isn't doing it for me. what few sets actually interest me are ones I am waiting for sales on. It's possible the Night Trooper Pack reaches... I'd say $17 is what I'd get it for.... before the end of the year, but if it doesn't, my lego spending went from a few hundred in $2024 to... $15* of official sets and a few bricklink part orders. *I bought two copies of the 2024 skeleton crew set because they were on absurd walmart discounts to sell the figures and use the parts for a MOC, but the discounts were so deep that selling the figs was a net gain, meaning my lego spending would be negative for the year! 16 hours ago, samsz_3 said: Crazy weekend for Eurobricks to be down!!. Honestly it probably displays better than the 2008/2016 Death Stars as you can see it all. But not for 1000USD. That needed to be a sphere. Exactly. At $500, this would have been a fine, unique format for the DS. At $1000, it really should have been a sphere. 15 hours ago, MKJoshA said: But there is 0% chance I would ever pay $1000 for that. I think this is going to be a big factor for a lot of people. There's a lot of analysis as to whether or not it's "worth it", and while I personally think it seems better value than most SW sets these days... I honestly don't care if the value is there or not. $1000 is just more than I would personally drop on a single set. 5 hours ago, Kit Figsto said: I'm predicting that smart brick thing is going to fail. There's basically no reason why a playscale X-Wing should ever cost $100. I don't care if it shoots actual lasers out of it, the X-Wing should pretty much always be an affordable, entry-level set for anyone to get into LSW with. I saw a Reddit comment that sums up my feelings on these prices, the person basically said that the reason for all of LEGO's adult collectors that exist nowadays are because of people that were kids in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s. Yeah, LEGO was always expensive, but if they keep pricing kids out of the hobby, that adult base is just going to get smaller and smaller. Yup. Though if it shot actual plasma bolts I would probably pick it up just for the novelty of owning an X-wing capable of lethal force. (If it was lasers as in just the literal meaning of the laser lights, I honestly don't see $100 still. lighting kits are expensive but not THAT expensive.) Yes- if kids aren't into a toy product now, the brand will die. It's true of anything that can't draw in new fans. With lego star wars there's the additional wrinkle of needing new star wars fans. 4 hours ago, Llewop said: It’s not even aimed at kids they aren’t going to spend $100 on one LEGO set I agree with your wider point that these smart brick sets are a bad idea, but come on. This is ridiculously false. Lego makes scores of $100+ sets aimed at kids every year. Star Wars, Ninjago, City, Friends, etc. Lot to go over during the down time: $1000 death star: Not as bad as it could have been. I think it actually looks quite nice, and the value doesn't seem bad. My primary issue is simply that it should have been a sphere. This is a nice display model, for $1000 the value is there, but the $1000 price point needs to be the flagship of a theme. The Death Slice simply doesn't work for me as the crown jewel of star wars. The old death star is more kid-oriented, sure, but it was iconic. It's quite literally so iconic that an emotional beat about it is part of the final scene of a spider-man trilogy. (We get a shot where Peter adjusts the Emperor Palpatine minifigure from the set- assumably the only part of it he could scavenge from his apartment- on his table before leaving to swing into the night.) I just can't see what is much more of an art set/display model taking it's place in that regard. It should have been smaller, correspondingly cheaper, and able to be wall-mounted. Other leaks: Yoda and Amended Vader busts: Another new 18+ gimmick to abandon after two years. Excellent. I hope the yoda looks worse than his 2018 buildable figure. TIE Advanced and X-wing: "Boy, I hope we get some new OT sets, maybe a TIE advanced" *Monkey's Paw curls* This is awful. We might not have two normal OT sets for another 1HY, for one thing, but it's not even as if they're being replaced by helmets or busts or system sets from another era. No. They're a gimmick, and one that drastically increases the price, but in a horrible twist of fate they're also a gimmick that resets the clock on getting a normal version of the advanced. I will be tweaking my digital Advanced moc tonight and ordering parts tomorrow, because it looks like we really aren't getting a normal one any time soon. 2 minutes ago, eldiano said: I’m actually shocked people here had problems with it’s stability, It never wobbled with me for the longest time, even with toddlers tripping over it’s furniture LOL. Yeah, I've never heard about stability issues either. I had mine up on top of a dresser that I bumped into probably every morning before school (I was not the most coordinated child or teenager) and it never so much as wobbled, even when other builds fell over or plopped off the shelf. I wonder if it's people who don't own it thinking a sphere would be unstable, and not really getting that it was flattened on the bottom and not fully spherically built down to a 6x6 or something. 7 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Bruh. Did the leakers seriously hype up TIE Advanced #6 or so, knowing full well that everyone wanted a TIE Avenger?! Is this a joke? Come on, don't be like this. It's not unreasonable to hype up the first version of a major vehicle in a full decade. Don't act like that's some sort of slight. 7 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Congratulations @Mandalorianknight it appears you won the battle. But the war isn’t quite over. Not yet. If there truly is an electric brick in it, this is no win. Arguably it's significantly worse than a TIE avenger, because instead of getting a different cool TIE variant and waiting a little longer for the Advanced, it's an overpriced gimmick that resets the clock on a normal version of the set. If it's any consolation it was highly unlikely that if there was an avenger in the pipeline, it would have been this anyway. We know the fastest turnaround for a full system set is 1.5 years (assuming the No Way Home set was pushed out as fast as they could), so if Lego thinks the demand is sufficient, we won't see it until 2027 anyway. Quote
Kit Figsto Posted August 12 Posted August 12 20 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: We know the fastest turnaround for a full system set is 1.5 years (assuming the No Way Home set was pushed out as fast as they could), so if Lego thinks the demand is sufficient, we won't see it until 2027 anyway. Slight caveat but I think technically they can do it in a year - I think that the Razor Crest was rushed to production after Mando was a hit, and I seem to remember the set was shown for pre-order in like February of 2020 and the set came out in September/October of that year, which was about a full year after the show premiered. This was during the peak “Star Wars TV show uncertainty” era where LEGO was seemingly very against making anything from a SW show after the Rebels line didn’t do as well, so maybe the ship was in the pipeline and they rushed it to production, or maybe they hadn’t planned it. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 hour ago, Kit Figsto said: Slight caveat but I think technically they can do it in a year - I think that the Razor Crest was rushed to production after Mando was a hit, and I seem to remember the set was shown for pre-order in like February of 2020 and the set came out in September/October of that year, which was about a full year after the show premiered. This was during the peak “Star Wars TV show uncertainty” era where LEGO was seemingly very against making anything from a SW show after the Rebels line didn’t do as well, so maybe the ship was in the pipeline and they rushed it to production, or maybe they hadn’t planned it. I might be wrong, but my understanding was that the Crest was planned as the amazon exclusive for that year, similar to Vader's Castle two years before it, and the only change to the set was the addition of a Baby Yoda figure. (And/or moving it to wider production?) I can't remember which- if any- leakers or officials said this, but I do remember some video where they were showing it off and everything was 100% complete aside from a rough prototype Baby Yoda. We know for sure they can make A set with a tighter turnaround- brickheadz baby yoda and mando was only 9 months or so after the premiere- but brickheadz are definitely a lot easier to rush out there. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted August 12 Posted August 12 5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Come on, don't be like this. It's not unreasonable to hype up the first version of a major vehicle in a full decade. Don't act like that's some sort of slight. Again, it‘s not that they were hyping up a remake that‘s the issue, but doing so while everyone was expecting something else It‘s like hyping up a Superman comic set knowing full well people want movie sets, for instance. Not unreasonable, but definitely not reading the room properly. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 “Even though large tracts of the theme and many old and famous sets have fallen or may fall into the grip of price gouging and all the odious apparatus of clone bro rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight (for a Tie Avenger) in Eurobricks, we shall fight (for a Tie Avenger) on the subreddits and discord servers, we shall fight (for a Tie Avenger) with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our theme, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the Lego house, we shall fight (for a Tie Avenger) on the Aslume forum, we shall fight (for a Tie Avenger) in the fields and in the streets (of Billund), we shall fight in the comment sections; we shall never surrender. And even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this forum or a large part of it were subjugated and starving (for sets), then our Empire sets beyond the wave, armed and guarded by the Tie Avenger Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the Tie Avenger, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the theme.” *Purely a parody of a famous speech btw, don’t lean into the name swaps too much* Day #110 of asking Lego to make a Tie Avenger. This is truly the theme’s darkest hour. 4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: We know for sure they can make A set with a tighter turnaround- brickheadz baby yoda and mando was only 9 months or so after the premiere- but brickheadz are definitely a lot easier to rush out there. I was thinking the Battle of Peridea was something to go off of. There’s no way that set was in development before the last 2 episodes of Ahsoka released. 5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: If there truly is an electric brick in it, this is no win. Arguably it's significantly worse than a TIE avenger, because instead of getting a different cool TIE variant and waiting a little longer for the Advanced, it's an overpriced gimmick that resets the clock on a normal version of the set. A pyrrhic victory for you indeed. A complete defeat for myself and others such as @BrickBob Studpants @BrickPrick @Lordhelmet and many more. If the leaked sketch of the X-Wing is anything to go by… the theme is royally ducked. Only the AT AT can save 1HY now. Quote
brimbolet Posted August 12 Posted August 12 My goodness, it's a pumped up 4+ X-Wing... wrong cockpit and totally wrong shape if the sketch is accurate... for 70 or 100$ Honestly the worst thing in SW isn't even the price increase, but the feeling that with each set the design quality is getting worse and worse, wrong proportions, lack of play functions, etc... Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted August 12 Posted August 12 The X-Wing sketch genuinely looks like a 30€, 4+ set. If this is the 100€ one... Wow, what am I even doing on this thread anymore. I clearly hate this theme and don't want anything except for more Andor sets. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted August 12 Posted August 12 23 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: The X-Wing sketch genuinely looks like a 30€, 4+ set. If this is the 100€ one... Wow, what am I even doing on this thread anymore. I clearly hate this theme and don't want anything except for more Andor sets. This theme is genuinely so bad, like embarrassing build quality for embarrassing prices and people pay these ridiculous prices just for figures they usually don't even like! Still buying them is an exercise in masochism Quote
ArrowBricks Posted August 12 Posted August 12 I’ll temper my reactionary take, but my word the priorities are so wrong if this is what we are getting. Nobody is buying an X-Wing for a smart brick, although today’s children do love technology more than their imagination so it seems. Can we just stop with the gimmicks and wide array of sets and pump budget into system scale sets that we all love? Clearly the budget isn’t there to make those sets good. Quote
BrickPrick Posted August 12 Posted August 12 23 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: I assume the busts are gonna look like the new Marvel ones—smaller in size and with minifigures included. Wonder what that means for the helmets (not that I care though). In other words, yet another unneeded and heavily overpriced 18+ format to add to the Lego Star Wars theme. 21 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Great. More megablucking gimmicks to worry about taking set slots. Yes, the root of the problem keeps on keeping on. That's what i was trying to tell you last time... Just replace the Star Wars logo with the Avenger... but leave Jango's Slave 1 alone. It's one of the saving graces for this year's summer wave. 18 hours ago, Lordhelmet said: I agree with this, especially considering most of the things people have called out are in current production (Dark grey with black boots, and C-3PO). Not doing these was particularly lazy on Lego's part. Thankfully for me I can correct these ones. I additionally wanted Han to have the dual molded legs like Cloud City, this one is not one that can be cheaply fixed. (I totally buy the keychains on sale to update my Luke Pilots and a C-3PO or two). Not that i would ever deny Lego being lazy, but in this instance it sounds far too friendly and it doesn't do it justice. They pushed the principle of penny pinching to perfection with this one. Though good for you regarding the easy fix. 18 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: It‘s rumoured to be a TIE Fighter, so I wouldn‘t get my hopes up for anything too fancy One of the minifigs is allegedly the same TIE pilot from the UCS TIE Interceptor So, they can yet again deliver what i would consider the real deal in a GWP, but not do that at all in the erigiously expensive set that precedes it? If you look up "greedy" on the internet, you may or not find the Lego logo representing this deadly sin. 17 hours ago, Meaf said: The Death Star looks a lot better than I'd anticipated based on the leaks, but I think I agree with the consensus here that it's just hard to look at it and go "yeah that's worth $1000." Though I suspect it will feel a lot bigger in person, I just can't imagine wanting to drop that much on it. Maybe if I end up finding a decent job (big maybe there ha) and it goes on sale for like $700, but as is I'm finding it hard to be wowed. And honestly, that's kind of sad to me. If they had to make a $1000 set, I would have hoped it'd blow my socks off, but they are very much still securely attached to my feet as things stand. Ha, i would take that decent job as well. But to speak for myself, I'm at a point where i don't hype myself up for at least these huge sets. I don't expect to be blown away by those things by any stretch of the imagination. On the contrary, if anything, i expect to be disappointed. And occasionally, just like now, am surprised when this actually doesn't happen. Even though that doesn't change anything regarding the very high asking price. I knew it could never live up to that. 17 hours ago, EvanHnuel said: Does anyone have any ideas as to what the build between Krennic & Galen is on the stand for DS? Maybe there is an actual real life gold brick hidden in there? It would explain a lot in terms of Lego charging a thousand bucks. 16 hours ago, Tariq j said: $100 for an X-Wing? That really is outrageous. That being said I am excited for the TIE Advanced since it’s been 10 years since we last saw it. It might be seven years late to the party, but now you getting to know how a $100 play scale X-Wing feels like. Spoiler: it ain't that great of a feeling. 15 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I hope the OT fans are happy with their boring remakes I guess the next time we get a Landspeeder, the leakers will hype that up too Pretty provocative of you... i like it. And yeah, for how heavily the Clone craziness is critized in here and now that we get some more OT stuff again, i ask... Is the 37th X-Wing on paper really any better or interesting than TCW overload in practice? At least, a lot of these sets provide long requested remakes and something new to the table, as we have discussed numerous times by now! 14 hours ago, ArrowBricks said: Smart bricks. Seen some talk about those. Would make sense for the rumoured price. It already sounds like an excuse to yet again purposefully charge higher prices for what is supposed to be a medium sized ship. Formats adjusted, an X-Wing should never be more expensive than a Slave 1... period. 3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: A pyrrhic victory for you indeed. A complete defeat for myself and others such as @BrickBob Studpants @BrickPrick @Lordhelmet and many more. To be fair, i reckon nobody will feel as defeated as you do. And i actually feel sorry for you, man. While it ain't over until it's over... things are not looking too hot for the Avenger in 2026. And u think the longer nothing happens, the less likely it is to materialize at all. Quote
AD_Bricks Posted August 12 Posted August 12 That is a ROUGH looking X-Wing, based on the sketch. Oh dear. Pleading to the Seven Source Dragons that 75445 is a TIE Avenger PLEEEEEASE Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted August 12 Posted August 12 8 minutes ago, AD_Bricks said: Pleading to the Seven Source Dragons that 75445 is a TIE Avenger PLEEEEEASE Two specialised TIE Fighters in such close proximity? Doubtful. Sure, we had the Bomber and Interceptor both in the 1HY of 2023, but the latter was a tie-in for Mando S3, whereas the Advanced and Avenger are both „old“ Had a new variant featured in M&G, I‘d have given that a higher chance. Speaking of which: While the leakers haven‘t said anything yet, those fours unknown sets are likely based on M&G anyway. Quote
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