LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[TeddytheSpoon]

On 2/20/2025 at 2:41 AM, Agent Kallus said:

Afol-Curious people

I just wanted to acknowledge that this is a funny term and I will be using it in future.

I think both sides are correct, though. Clearly the role of MFs (ahem) has changed over the last few years, but I think it's more a reflection of TLG's attitude towards the SW theme as a whole. Equally, as we've discussed many times on this forum before: trying to decipher a pattern among LEGO's releases is a fool's errand.

My 2 cents is that Plo would make a good candidate for an advent calendar figure.

[BrickBob Studpants]

4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

When we got larger numbers of microfighters, they were primarily composed of generic pilots.

Of course there‘s been a shift in terms of how many MFs they release, but it‘s hard to prove anything in regards to the strategy behind what kind of vehicles they pick. Yes, they go for more unique ships now rather than mass-produced vehicles and so it makes sense to have more named characters in those sets. But that‘s likely a consequence of the reduced output because they always had a mixture of both when MFs were more prolific. Sure, unique ships like the Falcon, Ghost, Kylo‘s Shuttle etc were rare compared to more generic fighters like X-Wing‘s and TIE Fighters, but they are in the minority in-universe too, so that makes perfect sense

4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

What's more, in a broader sense, I don't see any sense in regulating discussion and speculation to things that are concretely proven- it'd make leak season pretty boring.

This isn‘t about shutting down discussions, but there‘s a difference between rumours and making up a set based on a perceived pattern. 

We‘ve been talking about MF patterns for quite a while now and got a bit carried away I think. My basic point still stands: The existence of a new minifig in a MF is not an indication of there being an as-of-yet unknown set this year.

[CloneCommando99]

We got some piece count updates from Stonewars the other day.

$150 MTT = 980 pieces 

$150 UT AT = 813 pieces

$90 K2S0 = 850 pieces

Those had better be some really big pieces.

Also, may I point out that it appears to be the Clone Wars sets specifically which are overpriced for piece count  this year.

Horrible price per piece (yes I know it’s not everything but this is an interesting angle to look at it from) is most prevalent in: Ahsoka’s Interceptor, UT AT, 327th BP and the MTT.

ARC 170, V-19 and U-Wing get passes because they obviously have large pieces within their wing structures.

[BrickBob Studpants]

45 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

$150 UT AT = 813 pieces

$90 K2S0 = 850 pieces

I‘m far from a PPR absolutist, but that difference is hilarious  The UT-AT has larger pieces, quite a few minifigs presumably, and hopefully a new helmet piece, but this is still pretty ridiculous. 37 fewer pieces for $60 more?

Is Mundi secretly made of 18 karat gold? Maybe his CTs killed him for that reason rather than simply following Order 66

[Robi-wan]

Can't we start calling them MiFi's instead MFs. Keep thinking I am reading about Millenium Falcons...🤦🏽‍♂️

[Kaijumeister]

3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I‘m far from a PPR absolutist, but that difference is hilarious  The UT-AT has larger pieces, quite a few minifigs presumably, and hopefully a new helmet piece, but this is still pretty ridiculous. 37 fewer pieces for $60 more?

Is Mundi secretly made of 18 karat gold? Maybe his CTs killed him for that reason rather than simply following Order 66

PPP Ratio isn’t everything but it’s sad when these big summer sets don’t even break the 1000 piece mark, especially because it just shortens the build experience. Last year’s Dark Falcon and ISD were both over 1500 pieces which is quite a stark contrast.

Really struggling to understand what the perceived value is in these sets, outside of more clone variants and Jedi we’ve already seen before (albeit 7-8 years). Still, will keep an open mind.

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Kaijumeister said:

Really struggling to understand what the perceived value is in these sets, outside of more clone variants and Jedi we’ve already seen before (albeit 7-8 years).

That’s pretty much it, more Clone variants  On a positive note, since they finally release the two most requested missing units, Clone saturation levels will return to normal next year, if we’re lucky.

Of course, the Clone Bros won’t stop complaining until they’ve tackled every single obscure unit imaginable, but kids and casual fans should be satisfied to a degree where they can finally move on then  Or so I hope.

I can get behind wanting these two units and their commanders (and maybe an updated Neyo), but everything beyond that is a bridge too far. I’ve had it with these MF Clones in my MF sets!

[Mandalorianknight]

8 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Yes, they go for more unique ships now rather than mass-produced vehicles and so it makes sense to have more named characters in those sets.

Is this not in itself evidence of a paradigm shift or strategy change?

6 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Also, may I point out that it appears to be the Clone Wars sets specifically which are overpriced for piece count  this year.

To be- not to be FAIR, I guess, since it doesn't really make things better, but I would like to point out the clone sets are just most of the playscale sets in general. 18+ normally don't have bad ppps due to the lack of minifigures.

3 hours ago, Robi-wan said:

Can't we start calling them MiFi's instead MFs. Keep thinking I am reading about Millenium Falcons...🤦🏽‍♂️

I like MiFis, though alongside MF the falcon has another acronym with an ... alternate meaning.

50 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

That’s pretty much it, more Clone variants  On a positive note, since they finally release the two most requested missing units, Clone saturation levels will return to normal next year, if we’re lucky.

We're already hearing from a lot of clone bros (and some just standard fans of the clone wars) that they'd be OK with lego slowing down AFTER the wolfpack and kashyyyk troopers come. And from lego's perspective, if they believe these to be good sellers, we'll see them next year. Personally I think this is too much and about half the sets crash and burn, but the turnaround time isn't enough to stop a clone-heavy 2026.

[Swordy]

5 hours ago, Robi-wan said:

Can't we start calling them MiFi's instead MFs. Keep thinking I am reading about Millenium Falcons...🤦🏽‍♂️

Thank you so very much. (Now the question is, should it be pronounced “My-fy” or “Mee-fee”?)

On 2/20/2025 at 2:32 AM, BrickBob Studpants said:

You mean brand new minifig?  Because Plo has appeared in quite a few TCW sets.

That’s the second time you’ve had to correct me on character vs minifig. I blame my lack of mental comprehension on having to stare at EB’s white page for so long. (Thank the Maker for dark mode.)

On 2/20/2025 at 2:32 AM, BrickBob Studpants said:

Also, this whole discussion misses the forest for the trees. We know about every single retail and D2C set coming out this year. Regardless of what MiFi conspiracy you believe in, there is no opportunity for Plo to show up elsewhere,

Correct me if I’m wrong, but no one here was claiming Plo Koon has to be in another 2025 set (although the advent calendar would be the best option if it were to be this year). We were saying that Plo has to be in another planned set, which could be anytime within the next two years from now. Granted, that leans into 2026 LSW Discussion, but that thread doesn’t exist yet.

15 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

C'mon, there's ABSOLUTELY been a paradigm shift. In the first half of microfighter's existence we got a ton of microfighters, most of them with generic pilots or soldiers. Since the line changed to like one microfighter a year, the microfighters started becoming a lot more about being a cheap way to get desirable minifigures.…

I don't need a written statement from lego to notice what was a clear shift over time. What's more, in a broader sense, I don't see any sense in regulating discussion and speculation to things that are concretely proven- it'd make leak season pretty boring.

Furthermore, most of those generic troopers were the ones in more expensive sets. I believe the only reason we haven’t seen a Jedi Interceptor or Starfighter as a MiFi is because that type of set already fulfills the quota of cheap way to obtain desirable character. That is, they did until we got to $45 Interceptors.

Exactly. This is all friendly speculation (although I believe BrickBob was also engaging in that discussion; he was just taking the opposite angle and pointing out flaws in several arguments, as I did with his).

4 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

PPP Ratio isn’t everything but it’s sad when these big summer sets don’t even break the 1000 piece mark, especially because it just shortens the build experience. Last year’s Dark Falcon and ISD were both over 1500 pieces which is quite a stark contrast.

Really struggling to understand what the perceived value is in these sets, outside of more clone variants and Jedi we’ve already seen before (albeit 7-8 years). Still, will keep an open mind.

That’s true. LSW sets are getting smaller as of late, but they’ve been built smarter too. If the Yavin IV Base and Cad’s Justifier are any indication, the MTT and UT-AT will struggle to inch themselves off shelves; people expect a certain ball park of piece count at a given price bracket.

I suspect that TLG hopes enough clone-related YouTubers will clear out whole stores August 1st regardless, thus TLG receives all the more money. For those YouTubers, the value lies in views and, to a lesser extent, pure clout. (This is a very real aspect one must consider, regardless of where one’s opinion lies.)

I myself can do with or without any of these sets, so for me it really comes down to pure monetary value. As you say, I try to keep an open mind, so we’ll have to wait until the first leaks hit the web.

[Meaf]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

We're already hearing from a lot of clone bros (and some just standard fans of the clone wars) that they'd be OK with lego slowing down AFTER the wolfpack and kashyyyk troopers come. And from lego's perspective, if they believe these to be good sellers, we'll see them next year. Personally I think this is too much and about half the sets crash and burn, but the turnaround time isn't enough to stop a clone-heavy 2026.

Yeah that's the thing, regardless of whether this year's sets do well, we won't see that reflected in what new sets we're getting until 2027 at the earliest.  I would hope they ease up on them next year (one new legion would be perfectly reasonable imo) but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if we see quite a few more clone sets in 2026. I expect the new movie will take up a lot of the year's sets but in the past new movie waves didn't seem to cut into the other main waves much if at all, so there's probably still a fair bit of room for more clones if Lego really wants to do that.

Just now, Swordy said:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but no one here was claiming Plo Koon has to be in another 2025 set (although the advent calendar would be the best option if it were to be this year). We were saying that Plo has to be in another planned set, which could be anytime within the next two years from now. Granted, that leans into 2026 LSW Discussion, but that thread doesn’t exist yet.

And yeah, I don't know about everyone else but my expectation at the moment is that we'll see him show up in a set with his legion next year. Not saying it's 100% happening of course, but it makes perfect sense and the wolfpack is probably the most popular legion we don't already have so they feel like a shoe-in. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Kashyyk either but they feel slightly less likely since we've had more of them more recently, and I don't know if they would want to use up the last two really popular legions in one year.

[BrickBob Studpants]

50 minutes ago, Swordy said:

We were saying that Plo has to be in another planned set, which could be anytime within the next two years from now.

I would dispute even that, just because of one word: has. There is no necessity about that. I remember we had that exact same discussion back when Tallie Lintra or the U-Wing pilot appeared in MFs and people were adamant they had to reappear in other sets. And yeah, neither of them did.

That said, I also expect Plo to show up in another set within a year or two, but not because he has to 

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, Swordy said:

Furthermore, most of those generic troopers were the ones in more expensive sets. I believe the only reason we haven’t seen a Jedi Interceptor or Starfighter as a MiFi is because that type of set already fulfills the quota of cheap way to obtain desirable character. That is, they did until we got to $45 Interceptors.

I agree on the general principle, but I still think the earlier eras of microfighters were a lot more focused on the vehicle, and since the shift to the modern era in 2020-2022, we're a lot more focused on the minifigures.

2 hours ago, Meaf said:

Yeah that's the thing, regardless of whether this year's sets do well, we won't see that reflected in what new sets we're getting until 2027 at the earliest.  I would hope they ease up on them next year (one new legion would be perfectly reasonable imo) but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if we see quite a few more clone sets in 2026. I expect the new movie will take up a lot of the year's sets but in the past new movie waves didn't seem to cut into the other main waves much if at all, so there's probably still a fair bit of room for more clones if Lego really wants to do that.

Yup- I think 2026 we get some mando and grogu sets (but potentially not even a full wave) and then more or less a full repeat of 2025. 

[Darth_Bane13]

5 hours ago, Swordy said:

Thank you so very much. (Now the question is, should it be pronounced “My-fy” or “Mee-fee”?)

The former because it's similar to Wi-Fi.

[Agent Kallus]

6 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I would dispute even that, just because of one word: has. There is no necessity about that. I remember we had that exact same discussion back when Tallie Lintra or the U-Wing pilot appeared in MFs and people were adamant they had to reappear in other sets. And yeah, neither of them did.

That said, I also expect Plo to show up in another set within a year or two, but not because he has to 

I'd agree here. Plo's reappearance is likely but it is not certain.

 

[MKJoshA]

16 hours ago, Swordy said:

...Granted, that leans into 2026 LSW Discussion, but that thread doesn’t exist yet.

Just a reminder, we've changed to just discussion Lego Star Wars of any year in this thread. I'll make a 2026 thread when we get close to the new year. I keep making a new thread each year because 100+ pages is a lot to look through and it's good to start fresh each year. But you can discuss 2024, 2025, or 2026 sets and rumors here.

[CloneCommando99]

13 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Yup- I think 2026 we get some mando and grogu sets (but potentially not even a full wave) and then more or less a full repeat of 2025. 

Buildable Mando, UCS N-1, Buildable Babu Frik. And then they’ll call it a day and make Commander Doom and Thorn to tie-in with Doomsday.

Edited February 22 by CloneCommando99

[BrickBob Studpants]

36 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Buildable Babu Frik.

I unironically want this, especially if a minifig-scale version is included  DO IT YOU COWARDS

[Lego_Minecraft_Goat]

75400 will be the first Microfighter retailing for $14.99.

[Classic_Spaceman]

25 minutes ago, Lego_Minecraft_Goat said:

75400 will be the first Microfighter retailing for $14.99.

Kriff!! 😡
Does it at least include a droid? 
 

[Meaf]

22 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Kriff!! 😡
Does it at least include a droid? 
 

None of the rumors mentioned that so I would not expect it tbh. 

Not to defend the giant corporation but I do think this was probably a little "overdue" given how long they stayed at $10 (the regular ones were that much for ten years). $15 feels really steep for a single minifigure though. Obviously some people like to collect the vehicles too, but if you're like me and only (sometimes) buy them for the minifigures, this seems like a prohibitively expensive price. It'll be case by case for me since sometimes the character might be exclusive or only come in an UCS or something like that, but I will probably wait on Plo until we know if he's going to appear somewhere else next year.

[lego the hutt]

6 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I unironically want this, especially if a minifig-scale version is included  DO IT YOU COWARDS

Is this going to be like the buildable gonk droid thing from a couple years ago?  

Good luck 😉

[Llewop]

So I missed a few posts and must admit it took me longer than it should to realise what mf you guys been referring to I thought it was something completely different. 

I forget how long the microfighter series has been running for. If I’m not mistaken they have yet to do what the rest of LSW has done and repeat themselves. I’d say long may it continue as it is tragically the only cheap SW sets we get nowadays 

[Brickwraith]

28 minutes ago, Llewop said:

So I missed a few posts and must admit it took me longer than it should to realise what mf you guys been referring to I thought it was something completely different. 

I forget how long the microfighter series has been running for. If I’m not mistaken they have yet to do what the rest of LSW has done and repeat themselves. I’d say long may it continue as it is tragically the only cheap SW sets we get nowadays 

They've released the millennium falcon 3 times and an AT-AT twice but that's it

[CloneCommando99]

5 minutes ago, Brickwraith said:

They've released the millennium falcon 3 times and an AT-AT twice but that's it

2 X-Wings as well.

 

Where is the May 4th news?!!

[Mandalorianknight]

7 hours ago, Lego_Minecraft_Goat said:

75400 will be the first Microfighter retailing for $14.99.

Yeah I suppose we should've seen it coming. A bit steeper than inflation, but not horrible, especially if they intend on keeping that price for a similar amount of time as they did the $10 price point.

6 hours ago, Meaf said:

Not to defend the giant corporation

Right is right, and wrong is wrong. It's ok to defend a decision you think makes sense regardless of whether it comes from a little guy or a big company.

7 hours ago, Meaf said:

Not to defend the giant corporation but I do think this was probably a little "overdue" given how long they stayed at $10 (the regular ones were that much for ten years). $15 feels really steep for a single minifigure though. Obviously some people like to collect the vehicles too, but if you're like me and only (sometimes) buy them for the minifigures, this seems like a prohibitively expensive price. It'll be case by case for me since sometimes the character might be exclusive or only come in an UCS or something like that, but I will probably wait on Plo until we know if he's going to appear somewhere else next year.

I think I generally agree. $10 in 2014 would "only" be about $13.5 today. I think $13 was a better option, like what the rex microfighter was, but I can get the idea of wanting to keep this $15 price for awhile (similarly to how I don't think the battle packs should have moved to $20 when they did, but I'll be fine if they stick with it a few more years), especially if Plo ISN'T in anything else so we're factoring in an exclusive mold for now.

It does cement this as not a buy for me though- probably wouldn't have gotten it for $13 either, I like Plo but he's not a "buy the set just for the character" for me.

6 hours ago, lego the hutt said:

Is this going to be like the buildable gonk droid thing from a couple years ago?  

I still think this is a good idea and am surprised we haven't had one yet. They're more well known than some of the droids we've gotten/are getting, just from the fact that they're everywhere, they're a bit of a meme in areas of the fanbase. I also think that since they could be easily made fairly hollow, a gonk droid that could be used as a pen holder or storage thing, or- what I would do- hold a power bank would be pretty cool.

4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

2 X-Wings as well.

And even then it was two different types of X-wings- a red and white T-65 vs a blue and grey T-70. Honestly we're overdue another X-wing microfighter.

 

The microfighter price increase only makes me wish more and more that they brought the $10, non-gimmick, 2-fig sets from marvel over to here. I assume they have roughly similar licensing fees, and there's plenty of scenes they could use.