Renny The Spaceman Posted October 25, 2025 Posted October 25, 2025 28 minutes ago, Roebuck said: Some "money people" at Lego did not want the vending machine minifig parts to come to PAB since they are the main seller of the set and they feared it would damage sales numbers. The lovely PAB team protested and as a compromise they will come after 6 months and not the normal 4. However in the presentation from the PAB theme they had only the Spacefigs parts so the Castlefig parts are more uncertain (are they not coming or was there simply not any space for them on the slide). This was confirmed during the SFW, but things can change of course. Sorry, what's the SFW? That's insane I'm really surprised they'd admit that as it shows the more PAB becomes recognised as a way to get around ridiculously paywalled figures the more LEGO would push it. CS torsos didn't stay for long when the orange ones went up if memory serves, they might just jack the prices of those torso because they know they're collectable. You're right, it could be the team fought but was only able to get them to budge on the spacefigs Quote
DonQuixote Posted October 25, 2025 Posted October 25, 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, Black Falcon said: The shields however are another story, I hope the price for the horseman shield stays the same as the other shields and same goes for the shield of the kraken knights - snake and griffin knights shield however, I am afraid we have seen the price with the friends shield already. Another part I am expecting to be expensiv is the kings crown from the set. Yes, I saw it. Price for the Pegasus shield is awfull 4 hours ago, Black Falcon said: Edited October 25, 2025 by DonQuixote Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted October 25, 2025 Posted October 25, 2025 10 minutes ago, DonQuixote said: It's my favourite new faction Kraken Knights for me. What is dead may never die! Quote
DonQuixote Posted October 25, 2025 Posted October 25, 2025 40 minutes ago, Roebuck said: Some "money people" at Lego did not want the vending machine minifig parts to come to PAB since they are the main seller of the set and they feared it would damage sales numbers. The lovely PAB team protested and as a compromise they will come after 6 months and not the normal 4. However in the presentation from the PAB theme they had only the Spacefigs parts so the Castlefig parts are more uncertain (are they not coming or was there simply not any space for them on the slide). This was confirmed during the SFW, but things can change of course What is SWF? And how do you know all this? The price machine is terrible priced for an unlicensed set. But look at the new fish tank,€450, no minifigs, no license. Insane! This is the new Lego company know. Only interested in castle minifig army building. I am not gonna pay €180 for 4 minifigs I am interested in. 2 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said: Kraken Knights for me. What is dead may never die! Well, prepare to die! You Kraken scum! The era of the Griffin is about to come! Quote
Roebuck Posted October 25, 2025 Posted October 25, 2025 37 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said: Sorry, what's the SFW? That's insane I'm really surprised they'd admit that as it shows the more PAB becomes recognised as a way to get around ridiculously paywalled figures the more LEGO would push it. 27 minutes ago, DonQuixote said: What is SWF? And how do you know all this? Skærbæk fan weekend, several talks by employees from the Lego group including the PAB team. They did not of course call them "money people" etc, that is me making my own conclusions.. 49 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said: You're right, it could be the team fought but was only able to get them to budge on the spacefigs Hopefully we get them all in January for a decent price, from these articles it seems it is all of them, but time will show. https://www.stonewars.de/news/vorschau-lego-pick-a-brick-neuheiten/ https://www.brickfanatics.com/lego-vending-machine-pick-brick-2026/ https://www.brickfanatics.com/new-lego-pick-brick-pieces-updates-revealed/ I guess we will get a better idea about the price when horse and snake knights part drop in a week or two Quote
RichardGoring Posted October 26, 2025 Posted October 26, 2025 6 hours ago, Roebuck said: Some "money people" at Lego did not want the vending machine minifig parts to come to PAB since they are the main seller of the set and they feared it would damage sales numbers. The lovely PAB team protested and as a compromise they will come after 6 months and not the normal 4. I've never really understood this. How much of a difference does six months make over four? Surely it's OK to wait? Although you also see people buying figures in newly released sets for large amounts of money on first release, and I don't understand that either. Especially when just a few weeks later they are often priced a lot lower. Do people really buy a $180 set they don't want for a few figures? Surely not, so LEGO are more likely to lose revenue, rather than gain it. 7 hours ago, Roebuck said: This is just speculation from my side, but after the new info it suddenly makes more sense why some parts are so crazy expensive on PAB; some people at Lego want us to buy sets and not get the new sought after parts for cheap there. Which is fine even it is far from a fan service (they want to make money after all), but why put them on PAB in the fist place, e.g. a $16 fox is ridicules and will only piss people off Tin foil hat on. It could be that the money people say 'fine, have all the new elements, but let's set the price crazy high' and then when no one buys them, they can say that specialist elements don't need to be on PAB people don't buy them, so they should stay exclusive to sets... Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted October 26, 2025 Posted October 26, 2025 9 hours ago, RichardGoring said: I've never really understood this. How much of a difference does six months make over four? Surely it's OK to wait? Although you also see people buying figures in newly released sets for large amounts of money on first release, and I don't understand that either. Especially when just a few weeks later they are often priced a lot lower. Do people really buy a $180 set they don't want for a few figures? Surely not, so LEGO are more likely to lose revenue, rather than gain it. Well it's not any two months, it's November and December. The articles mention it's the holiday season in particular that it's being delayed to not interfere with. That's when big LEGO sets go the most so they don't wanna interfere with that. 15 hours ago, Roebuck said: Skærbæk fan weekend, several talks by employees from the Lego group including the PAB team. They did not of course call them "money people" etc, that is me making my own conclusions.. Hopefully we get them all in January for a decent price, from these articles it seems it is all of them, but time will show. Right, having read the articles they don't even show the full CS figures, just the air tanks. The only ever broadly say the Vending Machine parts so I think either all the printed parts are excluded and it's just the new colour parts or they'll all be there. Castle specifically won't be excluded or there would have been more of a division created. 9 hours ago, RichardGoring said: Tin foil hat on. It could be that the money people say 'fine, have all the new elements, but let's set the price crazy high' and then when no one buys them, they can say that specialist elements don't need to be on PAB people don't buy them, so they should stay exclusive to sets... That's plausible, I think PAB becoming more well known has lead to it being handicapped the past few years Quote
DonQuixote Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 If Lego would release a remake set of the Sea Serpent with a decent budget instead of it being a gwp next year, I would certainly buy 5 of these to army build and start a small armada. Quote
Roebuck Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 4 hours ago, DonQuixote said: If Lego would release a remake set of the Sea Serpent with a decent budget instead of it being a gwp next year, I would certainly buy 5 of these to army build and start a small armada. If they stop making the classic Icons sets we must rely on a low budget GWP here and there, CMF and Creator 3 in 1 (at least the latter have got a increased budget for figs and animals lately).. I do not have much hope for a normal wave of Castle or Pirates sets over 10 years since the last one (with a proper wave budget we could get a lot of figs and animals) Quote
DonQuixote Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 3 hours ago, Roebuck said: If they stop making the classic Icons sets we must rely on a low budget GWP here and there, CMF and Creator 3 in 1 (at least the latter have got a increased budget for figs and animals lately).. I do not have much hope for a normal wave of Castle or Pirates sets over 10 years since the last one (with a proper wave budget we could get a lot of figs and animals) That's so sad. Remake Black Barracuda was mynreturn to Lego from the dark ages. It's classic themes(castle, pirates, classic space) I am here for and the exceptionel Rivendell and Black Pearl. Maybe the next dark age is coming for me But ok, we have some cool sets at BDP I am interested in. So... keep making classic related designs guys! Quote
GreenhouseBricker Posted October 27, 2025 Author Posted October 27, 2025 On 10/24/2025 at 5:04 PM, GeoBrick said: More likely brickbuild. Yes the sail will be brick built. It looks like the concept graphic uses a large tile. I'm wondering if the logo on the tile will be a sticker or printed. My guess is that it will be a sticker. If we only get 1 new print then it will likely be the shield. https://beta.ideas.lego.com/challenges/5ef2c3ef-c229-4417-9728-6ab8df89024a/entries/e2a67ebe-6b24-4d86-8765-29c185bb2a91 Quote
GeoBrick Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 6 hours ago, DonQuixote said: ... But ok, we have some cool sets at BDP I am interested in. So... keep making classic related designs guys! I was just about to say. It does indeed looks like the Classic Themes related sets have been relegated to fan-based designs. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 24 minutes ago, GeoBrick said: I was just about to say. It does indeed looks like the Classic Themes related sets have been relegated to fan-based designs. This is my fear too, these sets will now only available through FOMO methods with GWPs and BDP. On 10/25/2025 at 8:18 PM, DonQuixote said: Well, prepare to die! You Kraken scum! The era of the Griffin is about to come! Unwise to bet against Teal, death isn't enough for it :P Quote
Lion King Posted October 28, 2025 Posted October 28, 2025 I wonder if i will see a throwback to Ninja theme from 1990s, ignoring Ninjago. Quote
Triceron Posted October 28, 2025 Posted October 28, 2025 On 10/25/2025 at 6:36 PM, RichardGoring said: I've never really understood this. How much of a difference does six months make over four? Surely it's OK to wait? I think you're underestimating the power of Black Friday and Christmas sales. PAB would absolutely impact it if the torso's and shields were readily available. To most of us, we will be willing to wait. But there is enough sway with sales/promotions to get people on the fence to pull the trigger on big sets like the gumball machine. Hell, Prime day was enough for me to finally get Medieval Town Square even though I've been on the fence since it was announced. On 10/26/2025 at 7:10 PM, DonQuixote said: If Lego would release a remake set of the Sea Serpent with a decent budget instead of it being a gwp next year, I would certainly buy 5 of these to army build and start a small armada. Can usually find them decently priced on aftermarket. Usually from people who get the GWP who aren't interested in the theme. I managed to get a few Forest Hideouts that way. Quote
DonQuixote Posted October 28, 2025 Posted October 28, 2025 36 minutes ago, Triceron said: Can usually find them decently priced on aftermarket. Usually from people who get the GWP who aren't interested in the theme. I managed to get a few Forest Hideouts that way. That gwp is the only gwp I was interested in. It had the Forest People shields. Majisto workshop didn't have the long dragon shield and dragon helmet and plumes.So I skipped that one. The upcoming Sea Serpent gwp will suck. It will not have a cloth sail and no iconic long dragon shields. Unless there is an upcoming Black Knights castle remake. I have sold the Sega Megadrive controller gwp and Jack Sparrow's compass gwp before I even completed the Black Pearl build. I knew these are popular so I decided to purchase the Pearl at midnight. It really helped to soften the price of the very expensive Black Pearl. Quote
Triceron Posted October 28, 2025 Posted October 28, 2025 (edited) I'd really hoped the Majisto GWP was a gateway to Dragon Masters return, but we didn't even get a CMF out of that. All while Wolfpack got a surprising resurgence. So it's really all up in the air for what the Sea Serpent means in the future. I still want one just as a rival for the Krakens. And I'm sure a 3rd party will make cloth sails. Unfortunate, but also probably for the best rather than waiting for Lego to resurge every Castle theme. --edit-- Ninjago Dragon of Life looks like it'll have some great parts for a forest creature build. I can see some useful applications for its leafy wing parts Edited October 28, 2025 by Triceron Quote
Driver Brandon Grumman Posted October 28, 2025 Posted October 28, 2025 (edited) I thought it was impossible at first. However, nowadays Lego is unpredictable so I'm gonna go ahead and cave in. So for me, I think they should at least bring back the characters from the classic Knights Kingdom theme; i.e. King Leo, Queen Leonora, Cedric the Bull, Sir Richard the Strong, etc. Considering that they brought back Rocket Racer, Johnny Thunder and an unofficial revival of Pepper from Lego Island, I don't see it as being far fetched to bring back the old Knights Kingdom crew. Edited October 28, 2025 by Driver Brandon Grumman Quote
Triceron Posted October 28, 2025 Posted October 28, 2025 Bull Knights were on the Vending Machine poll, so I definitely wouldn't count them out. I imagine they could do a Joust set and have a bunch of different cameo factions be present as various jousting knights, or they could always revisit em in a CMF one-off. Quote
Blazej_Holen Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 10 hours ago, Driver Brandon Grumman said: I thought it was impossible at first. However, nowadays Lego is unpredictable so I'm gonna go ahead and cave in. So for me, I think they should at least bring back the characters from the classic Knights Kingdom theme; i.e. King Leo, Queen Leonora, Cedric the Bull, Sir Richard the Strong, etc. Considering that they brought back Rocket Racer, Johnny Thunder and an unofficial revival of Pepper from Lego Island, I don't see it as being far fetched to bring back the old Knights Kingdom crew. I am sorry, but Knights kingdom is not a classic, its abomination… Downfall of the Lego castle until 2013… Quote
Artanis I Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 They already did a KKI castle revival (but with stickers) in 2006 for some weird reason. Totally eclipsed by the 2007-> 'fantasy era' of course Quote
wanderer1980 Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 (edited) 9 hours ago, Blazej_Holen said: I am sorry, but Knights kingdom is not a classic, its abomination… Downfall of the Lego castle until 2013… I only partially agree with you, as the color scheme and the coat of arms of the Scorpion Knights are among my top 3. Edited October 29, 2025 by wanderer1980 Quote
Blazej_Holen Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 5 hours ago, wanderer1980 said: I only partially agree with you, as the color scheme and the coat of arms of the Scorpion Knights are among my top 3. I ment KKI (Cedric Bull x King Leo)… The Scorpions etc were also horrible (from my perspective), but thats just my opinion based on my preferences (which are mostly classic Castle and Fantasy Era… Quote
Lion King Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 I still want Fantasy Era set! But I would love to see King Leo and some known characters from the 2000s Castle theme. Of course, we have Lion Knights’ Castle set. Quote
Driver Brandon Grumman Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 (edited) 16 hours ago, Blazej_Holen said: I am sorry, but Knights kingdom is not a classic, its abomination… Downfall of the Lego castle until 2013… LOL BRO!!!! The old Knights Kingdom theme was a timeless classic! So much so that not only did they have a buzz book about them and a Lego Creator game, but some of those sets were featured in the second Lego Island game and I myself had the pleasure of owning this set. We're talking classic castle here! Edited October 30, 2025 by Driver Brandon Grumman Quote
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