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I'm not saying it's a totally new song. What I'm saying is, this is used for the "Previously on NINJAGO" part, and is not the actual new theme. The original, or modified version of this, is the new theme song, and the new theme song in itself is a major modification of the old theme. I'm not stupid. I know they are more or less the same song ("Previously on NINJAGO" and the intro theme), but there's a big fat line between music with the occasional "jump back" and "gotta push our game" in the background and an actual true-to-the-original remix.

Cole having the least amount of character development? Yeah, suuuure. There's still Misako, Dareth (somewhat) and other characters. Also, no, that is not the remix used in the intro for the new season. For the "Previously on NINJAGO," part, probably, but it's definitely not the new theme song. The new theme song is more or less a straight up techno remix of the old theme, this has way too many foley breaks and each break is incredibly long.

You forgot the Mice tribe. There's also probably a bunch of different ones that came from the books (like the mice tribe), so I'm not even sure if we should be bothered to find all of them.

Actually, while I doubt this myself, I have a feeling they're going to drop a plot bombshell this year regarding exactly who the First Spinjitzu Master is. It's an absurd thought, considering who of the ninja it would have to be, but it would at least remove the stupidity of the character constantly being left out of everything. But anyway, there's obviously a plan for the next few years, and I look forward to it!

Really it's today for me, because I live in Australia. But, it's also tomorrow for me, in the afternoon, because that's the time I'll finally be able to see it.

Remember, he Overlord's goal was to use Lloyd's power and/or drain it. Gold isn't a big surprise. Regarding the metallic thing of Bad guys and Good guys, Aanchir is actually false in this case. First of all, Cole and Jay during 2012 and 2013 both used silver, in contrast to Kai and Zane's gold. The sets however, have almost constantly used gold. In fact not even Lloyd in his first two forms had gold on him, but rather a dark metallic gray. Jay still uses silver to this day, Zane has some on all three versions TV appearance included, and Cole's TV version also features silver. In fact none of the bad guys, until this year, have used (and if so, rarely) metallic colors whatsoever. Any and all Nindroids and bad guys this year have featured silver in some way, including PIXAL due to her TV appearance. I would also like to point out that these are prelimnary, and already we've seen the armor on the tripod switch from gold to black, or vice versa, depending on the date the catalogs were produced. Color coding doesn't matter. It's a bad guy, kids will recognize it, and the entire concept of color coding was thrown out the window with the Overlord what with Lloyd's powers being used to "resurrect" (a term I use lightly in this scenario for obvious reasons) the Overlord. It's actually color coding genius when you think about it.

It's not going to be goofy. If you saw the last season of NINJAGO (which I doubt, no offense) you'd realize he at first looked more freaky than scary, and afterwards just absolutely terrifying. For the record: Before: After: (Could an Admin please resize these?)

Ugh, all of these make me want to throw up... no offense to those who like them.

I just wish they would at least pay attention to a particular set, if not the entire range.

Indeed, almost all LEGO fansites (other than forums, but even then) have some sort of intensely bad thing going on with them.

I think he meant Huw is biased against Action Themes. Yep, he meant that. Ugh. It's bad reporting like this that I hate. He took no attention to any individual set and just branded the line as a whole. At least we know it IS Agents returning, and Inferno will be back.

Ah, I forgot one part of what I meant to say. Perhaps Wu and Garmadon only just started to age after Lloyd was born? I mean, Wu acted as if Garmadon knew who Pythor was in Episode 8, so I think it may be safe to assume that Pythor was around when the Great Devourer was locked away and simply forgot or never knew how to unlock it. He already knew he needed to unite the tribes, at least, otherwise he never would have released the Constrictai and Venomari. Whoever locked away the Serpentine (there were multiple people, Wu stated there were many flutes, and he and Garmadon would not have been careless with them) lived long ago, and probably died long ago too. I doubt people would have forgotten humanoid snakes walking around in a matter of decades XD That being said, it's unlikely BOTH of them started to age after Lloyd's birth, but both of them were roughly the same age, and it's not completely out of the question that Sensei's beard grew so long in ten years But in the end, given Lloyd's age it's the only sane conclusion. If the "Zane: Ninja of Ice" book is to be believed, then it is implied that the First Spinjitzu Master was fairly young when he had Wu and Garmadon. But then again, Garmadon also says he spent thousands of years in the Underworld, but, he could have been lying to further confuse Zane about whether or not Wu was to be trusted. Perhaps this should be discussed in a different thread?

Someone needs to make this a meme.

No, he created the Great Devourer knowing that it would bite Garmadon and turn him into the Dark Lord. The Overlord and the First Spinjitzu Master both knew everything that would happen, and this is further evidenced by the Temple of Light's "pictures". The plan was far more than to just destroy things. Nothing in NINJAGO happened by "dumb luck". Everything had cause and effect. Also bring in the equation of "destiny" into it. The only thing so far that has seemingly happened by "dumb luck" is the Overlord's survival as a computer virus. Even then, they're sure to elaborate on that further. Garmadon and Wu are a lot older than they seem. They were both around before the Great Devourer and the Serpentine were imprisoned (how would the Serpentine know how to unleash the Great Devourer if they had been imprisoned first?) For perhaps thousands of years they fought alongside each other as the venom worked inside of Garmadon. Eventually, Kai's father grew up and became great friends with at least Wu, while Garmadon and Wu started their love triangle with Misako Eventually, Kai's father had his own kids, and Garmadon further creeped into darkness until he had Lloyd, probably when Kai was thirteen. After that Garmadon turned evil, and Wu defeated him. Wu hid the Golden Weapons, and gave a map to Kai's father to keep. At some point in the future (a part I have little knowledge about here, so excuse me if I get something wrong) he had an adventure to do with a thing called the "Tower of Tears" and a mirror showed him that he would need to form a team of ninja. As I said, I am unsure of that last part, but I know that Wu at least had a vision of why he needed to form the ninja. But anyway, this is getting off-topic but you know the rest of the plot. Or you will, if you watch the TV show

I'm sorry, what? The Overlord's plans are incredibly complex down to the very groundwork of the plot. He assisted in the creation of the Great Devourer, and, perhaps the Serpentine too, and most likely had MAJOR ties to the Underworld with the Stone Army's origin probably coming from there. Like he said in Episode 20, everything in his grand plan moved together "like the gears of a clock."

Ah ah ah, if Tom Bombadil didn't exist in the books the Hobbits would have died multiple times over. In the Old Forest, Pippin and Merry, and if by some miracle they all got away, when they reached the Barrow-Downs then they would all surely be dead. As I have said before, changing their course changes what happens. Tom was made redundant by going straight to Bree. Peter Jackson has already stated that they are expanding Beorn's role further. Just because Bombadil gave the Hobbits the Blades doesn't mean he had nothing to do with the death of the Witch King. You also seem to be forgetting the prophecy regarding the Witch King that "no man can kill him". Right now it seems like you're arguing just for the sake of it. No one killed Saruman in the movie version. Even then, if you count the deleted scene it was just Grima. I fail to see how Saruman of all people is relevant here. Grima played a big role with Rohan even if a small one. You're making a lot of stupid mistakes, mate. You very well know there would be no LoTR movie if Isildur threw the Ring into Mt Doom, so that entire point is invalid. But you know what? You just made my point all together. If The Hobbit is an expansion, then why, as you said, has Beorn's role been condensed? How do we know that he will even make an appearance at the Battle of Five Armies whatsoever? And if this is the case, then why was he put into the movie in the first place when they could have saved money and time by not having to hire an actor and create the sets for Beorn's house. Which obviously disproves the idea that he won't appear at BoFA. Which further proves my original point. If he's not going to be at Dol Guldur, then what was the entire point in going to the trouble of finding a voice actor, making him learn the lines, giving him hairdressers, make-up artists, etc if all he is ever going to do is be a CGI bear in a battle, and all he does is rip through orcs and kill their leader? Don't bother responding, because I'm not going to bother to respond to your response. I'm tired of arguing with you, especially when any and all answers to your arguments can be found in previous posts.

Nope. That is false. LoTR is not a trilogy. It is a single novel divided into three separate parts for easier reading. Like the Bible. There are 66 Books to the Bible yet the Bible itself is one book. But these books are short enough that it would be easier to condense them all into one big book. Tolkien himself stated this was how LoTR was done, and I suspect it was because he wanted to get the "basic foundation" done so he couldn't change it so easily. Like the Silmarillion, containing any books. The work itself changed all throughout his life and we will never know if his son got it right in the end as to what Tolkien had in mind. This is getting really off-topic, isn't it? EDIT: whoops, stuff-up on the part about the Silmarillion. Changed it

I think people misunderstood what I said regarding Merry using his blade. I was referring to The Battle of Pelennor Fields, not the Ring Wraith fight on Weathertop. If Merry hadn't wounded the Witch King of Angmar, Eowyn couldn't have killed the Witch King. And thus, they would have lost Minas Tirith. Even with the support of the Ghost Army, it's ghosts VS ghosts then. Rohan would be without a king (or queen), Merry would almost certainly be dead after that, and many things would have gone wrong. This is because of the enchantments in the Barrow-Blades. Saying that no-one could get near Bolg because his guards were protecting him too well is a weak excuse. Bard is an archer, aim it right and no amount of guards will stop his arrow. Elves are also deadly-accurate with a bow, and considering there's an entire army of them in the Battle of Five Armies I think there's quite a fair bit of leeway in regards to random-guy-kills-the-bad-guy plot. May I also remind you that by this point Sauron has been crippled once-more and currently had no "residence" at Mordor or Mirkwood? Bilbo was also wearing the Ring anyway, and that's a big plot point in itself anyway. What my point is, is that nothing depends on Beorn. Nothing whatsoever. Random archer uses his bow, it goes up in the air in a huge arc and pins the dead body of Bolg to the ground. Enemies are leaderless and run away, end of story, removal of useless character who doesn't even fit into the Tolkienverse (not even Vampires and Werewolves change shape in Middle-Earth, and yet this guy can? Why does Sauron have no use for him whatsoever in his army? Why doesn't he order the Orcs to execute him on the spot if he's useless to them?). Tom Bombadil, according to The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien describes him as the living embodiment of the countryside that is the Shire. He came to Middle-Earth before the Elves did, and for all anyone knows he could be Illuvatar, a Maia, who knows what? He adds context to the story, he's impervious to the Ring's powers. He perfectly illustrates exactly how crazily complex the Tolkienverse is and of its origins. He shows that it's more than pretty elves and evil Rings and Dark Lords and orcs. Beorn however, similarly to Tom, adds nothing to the story that is too crucial to change. Tom gives them the Blades? Make someone else do it. Beorn kills Bolg? Make someone else do it. I've already said how that can be done. Saying that The Hobbit is an expansion is rubbish.The Hobbit was originally a two-movie thing was because the Hobbit cannot be condensed into three hours without it becoming too fast-paced. An Unexpected Journey was a perfect example. Unfortunately there was too much stupidity in its changes, but if it weren't for that it would have been paced perfectly. The times they did stray from the book weren't terrible, unlike what they have done with Beorn. That might sound like hypocrisy, but it isn't. Because I have a feeling no one here realizes that I don't want Beorn gone, I want them to make him stay the minor character he is. Otherwise what's the point? As I've demonstrated, Beorn could have easily been removed. He had no need for an expanded role. And regardless of a scene being cut out of the movie it's clear that Beorn will take part in the battle of Dol Guldur. It's ridiculous to cut one character because of being "useless" and expand another character out despite them being even more useless.

Actually, yes, they did do things with the Barrow-blades. According to the LoTR Wiki, it was because of the enchantments in the blade that allowed Pippin to wound the Witch King in the end. That's a pretty critical usage for them. Also, they did fight before Rivendell. Frodo's blade broke at Weathertop during the attack by the Ring Wraiths. Also, this is why Bilbo gave Frodo Sting. Which was another critical part of the trilogy, because Sting was the only reason Frodo and Sam survived Shelob's attack, and why the Ring did not go to Sauron. That's an entire critical character to the entire pot that can be removed by Aragorn giving the Hobbits the Blades, and yet you still insist that Beorn must remain because he slays Bolg or someone else. Why can't Bard kill him? Why can't a random soldier kill him? What about Thorin and co.? That's one critical character that can be completely removed by doing a simple change. The movies changed even some of these plot points I've mentioned. In the movie version of FoTR, Frodo simply drops his blade, and they never recover it. Pippin is given a new blade by Denethor in the movie for RoTK, thus making Pippin's blade's fate unknown.

I said in what happens for the rest of the trilogy. I didn't say he was a part of the Fellowship. He was far from it. He gave the Hobbits the Barrow-blades (or whatever they were called) and saved them from certain doom, even Gandalf himself stated that it was the most dangerous moment of them all, even in comparison to the Weathertop attack. But this can all easily be cut out because by changing their course to Bree it would never happen. And Beorn? By changing what happens in the movie, the Orcs might not be chasing after them, or even be following them for that part of the movie. A similar situation to what happened in the Old Forest. They never go into the Forest, nothing ever happens, end of story. They changed so much of the Hobbit and of LoTR that arguing that Tom Bombadil being cut out and Beorn staying for perhaps an even greater part in the movie despite easily being removed is not unfair is, well, rather silly. The LoTR movies confuse a lot of moviegoers as it is. Go look at CinemaSins. They read all the books, and still made fun of all the glaring plot holes any regular moviegoer could see. Yeah yeah, minor nitpick over two characters. Deal with it. Even Christopher Tolkien himself said they've turned the books into watered-down action movies. I honestly hope they do no more movies after this. The last thing I want to see is The Silmarillion turned from a history book of Middle Earth into an action movie.

Tom Bombadil also plays a crucial part in the armament of the Hobbits and of deepening the lore behind LoTR. Instead we got a lame "weapons were left here for no reason" and a lackluster bunch of Wraiths that did nothing whatsoever in the first movie other than stab Frodo and kill one guy. In that sense, even though Bombadil plays a major part in what happens for the rest of the trilogy despite only being mentioned once or twice throughout just the first book, why is it that Beorn cannot be cut? They've destroyed the basic plot of The Hobbit already with the ridiculous side-plots (not counting Dol Guldur there) and left three major characters behind to be torched at Laketown (though not necessarily die there), added in over-the-top death-defying stunts (Unexpected Journey) and just plain stupidity, yet they wouldn't dare bother to remove Beorn, arguably the least important protagonist whatsoever especially when changing the entire history of Middle Earth gets to stay in? In fact, Eowyn had her own tacked-on plot in LoTR that I do not recall even being mentioned in The Two Towers or The Return of The King? Why is it that we would actually care that Eowyn will die when everyone else will too if Sauron takes over? She's already mortal, she's already doomed to die at some point. It made no sense regardless as to why she was sick in the first place. Honestly, I've realized so much stupidity has come out of Peter Jackson's movies and because of how much he's changed Middle Earth most plot holes that were explained in the book can't even apply now because we have no concept of whether or not it is canon to the cinematic universe. It's destroyed LoTR for me. And I only became a fan months ago, and already I've lost any and all interest in the Tolkienverse. It just isn't good anymore to me.

The headcrabs from Half-Life came from Aliens, and you're really going to compare a Left 4 Dead zombie to a single set instead of the many LEGO sets featuring a bad guy with one guy having a bigger arm than the other?

It's still probably just a joke about Middle Earth's cinematic universe being entirely in New Zealand.

Aw, I wanted to see a battle for the spare prizes

Apparently Peter Jackson is giving him a greater part in the battle. And what you said about Tauriel and Legolas is what I'm getting at. Legolas is only said to love her, yet in the movie we see no real indication of this other than him disobeying his father for her. And even then, the whole ordeal with Tauriel and Kili just makes it worse. And I already said I am aware that the Gandalf parts are faithful, it's only being used as an excuse to drag out The Hobbit over another movie.