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Before I change my mind about this: the other blocker was Minoru. The person who vouched for Minoru I trust. But their reasons for trusting Minoru, I'm shaky on. I can't think that there are three blockers here, including Tadau. That leaves Minoru as the scum blocker. Can anyone think of a different scenario? I really wish Tadau had been scum

As I said, I was consulting with the vig, and, as planned, Tadao was taken out. I'm shocked he came up Yakuza. Ichiro, by the end of the day, in private and in public, was seeming town. But Tadao's explanations and behavior was seeming very scummy. I can't express how disappointed I am with that result as I was depending on it. On a positive note, all the investigations last night were successful, and we have three less townies that we'll be worried about, but no Mutineers It looks like I will be revealing my blocker today. Kuso!

I think you let people know whether they were alive or not a little too early. My team already has our day three strategy set out

Is that an announcement?

Why was the thread closed a few hours early? The votes weren't unanimous, and I had some questions I wanted to put out before the night started. I was depending on a 72-hour day

In past discussion, the vig and I had figured that taking out that blocker was the first order of business, if Ichiro revealed him. I haven't spoken since the reveal, but I think she'll still go in that direction. Thanks, mate, you're looking fine yourself

I'm not telling a single person not to investigate me. I'm saying I've been investigated, and they are all good with me, so they will be spending their efforts elsewhere. If they want to double up and try again, that's their choice to. But I find it unlikely. As for you being tired of my speeches? Well, no shit. I have no tolerance for your bad attitude, and I've let you know. I think that's the natural thing, for you to be bitter. I certainly don't blame myself for you not being able to follow what I say. That's on you and your fluency with the language, buddy, not on me. I think you need to spend a day at an onsen chilling out Nope, same as above. I'm not dictating orders to anybody. When I wrote: Do you think I was saying it because I'm the puppet-master holding the strings, or because I feel that we've got a modicum of trust built, and we're going to focus our efforts elsewhere? Paranoia dictates the former, while logic dictates the latter. If there are any others out there with anything that could be classified an investigation ability, by all means, check me out, and we can get on with the family business, and cut down on the family squabbling Sorry, but pointing out edits is important in order to keep things fair. About those worrying I'm the godfather, please keep in mind that there are investigative methods beyond the cop, ones that won't be fooled by their innocent appearance. This is how I was cleared, and this is why they have confidence in me. As for tonight, I will consult with the vig and I think they'll be willing to take out Tadao. I'm praying he's scum, since I'd hate to think my blocker was lying to me

No, your incessant pushing put everything way back, because it was goddamned annoying The reason I could work with people is because lots of them saw that I was worth working with, and I was cooperating with them, despite your perception of the matter. Really. Why don't you know that much already? Because you've been playing this totally wrong. So lay off the lectures, will you? You seem to be seeing the light, it's just a few more steps and you might get there. You acting like an megablocks, now in it's 100th hour, has done jack for town. Seriously. If you were acting like a mature adult without an ego problem, I still would have been doing all I have for town, revealing it as I see prudent. But without a megablocking spotlight on me from you. Good job Sherlock I'm not at liberty to tell other people's secrets without long discussion. Your behavior simply locked you out of a lot of discussion though I was totally friendly with you to begin with, and you've caused hard working town trouble since you were pointing fingers at their ally, who is under scum scrutiny to begin with. Having a windbag townie pile up baseless accusations at their partner did them nothing. You've done nothing positive by your behaviour to me, and the sooner you grasp that, the sooner the true townies can focus on helping the family Got it? Think about it. Think about it a long time, and stop trying to claim some victory for being a pain in the megablocks. The main reason I think you're town is because I have a hard time believing any scum could be act as out of touch as you've been.

You know there will be a place for you there, my captain

Please keep in mind that I've been using the names they were given when you read this. It's day two, and there are 30 players, so it's quite a lot to remember every name, especially when writing quickly. Once you're replying, you can't see the "names" of the people as the signatures aren't shown in the topic summary below. More than once, after I started writing, I had to open another window back to page one to check the names of people. So, I think it's not done to disrespect you. I think it'll get better each day as players go down, and the names become more familiar. Thanks for your hard work as host

My train of thought. Not yours. I expect you to understand your own Anyway... I don't expect you to take my word for it, but I highly doubt there will be counter claims, since those people would likely be lying scumbags For the time being, it's better to give me the benefit of the doubt, since I'm not spinning elaborate theories on possible scum identities that I have no certainty in, which, while a townie technique, it's also a scum technique to throw people off in the wrong direction. Rather, I'm telling you information about what I know, which makes me susceptible to counter-claim verification. And don't worry about the "safeness" of these investigators. We're already working around the danger of insane readings

How can I "guide" the family on who to lynch when I have no suspects I know some people are safe, and everyone else is in a grey zone. I'm not going to be a lynch leader when I don't have strong suspicions on who is scum I lack your confidence, to say the least.

I don't think you followed the full train of thought of that post. Huh? My blocker claimed Nobuo night one, and Ichiro's claimed me. Well, I would say so, but I have a strong feeling mine is on the up and up. Ichiro is going to claim the same thing, obviously, but we won't know until tomorrow. I find it strange that he found them suspicious but won't reveal, while I have little to no suspicion at all of mine, which is a good reason not to share. If Ichiro was to reveal his blocker, I could definitely see that they get vig killed tonight, and if that person turned up town, I would have to reveal my source, I guess I'm not the vig, and the scum don't know who the vig is, so they couldn't block them. I really don't understand this logic. I'm hoping Ichiro is scum, and I won't have to explain why this is a logical fallacy tomorrow. All it proves is that we're both talking to someone claiming blocker. Yes, my thoughts exactly. Too late, I've been investigated, and found safe. I will say that at this point I've learned that there are at least three methods that town can investigate, and I've been cleared by one. Obviously, I can't reveal any more than that Anyway, those people all will not be investigating me a second time. It's time to move on to bigger fish. If you want to bet money on it, bet on B Some of what you wrote is quite sensible, but the part about Ichiro and I being either/or is missing something The vig has priorities. They make their own decisions, but, personally, I think we shouldn't take people out for being irritating. We did have a laugh about the options we have for annoying members of the family though I will reiterate to the watcher though, that you should to watch me tonight. The scum will want to either block or kill me. I think I have protection, but the scum may think it's a double-bluff or something and venture to try to kill me anyway. It's in town's best interests

I will let you know that I have good reason to think that Lloyd was killed by the scum. I have reason to believe the vig will kill with katanas, much like Nobuo and I were both knocked out by katanas. I think this is the work of the gods above to make things more equal to all sides and not assign guilt based on the method. It's possible that the SK too will operate the same way, but I'm inclined to think that the SK will be delineated differently if they exist. I know that this is a complicated situation, much like a mission I once had in Egypt was, quite possibly too complicated for there to be a crazy third party. I'm not promising that though. All the same, I would love the watcher to watch me tonight. I'd like some insurance to get me to day three

I realize that there seems to be a certain frustration and tension among members of the family today. I, Norio, specialize in sensitivity, if you haven't picked up on that up by now (possibly because you aren't sensitive enough). So, in order to help us weather the storm as we drive these bastard-like mutineers from our temple, I offer you this to keep the flame of hope alive, to recall why it is we are all working together. Enjoy If that doesn't lighten your mood, I suggest some shiatsu, followed by some umeboshi.

Hmm. This is a game, right? And we're here to have fun, right? So, even if you're a townie, maybe it's possible that you just were so irritating, that I don't want to put up with it? Let me summarize again 1. Yasu contacts me 2. Yasu messes up her contact, so I switch my opinion on her, but, stay friendly and hope to use that slim chance that she might give me info in order to 'keep' me on her side. 3. Nobuo wants that info in public! 4. I say I'll give it later 5. Not good enough for Nobuo! He needs it then! 6. Polite private explanation to Nobuo explaining why I don't want to say in thread. 7. Not good enough for Nobuo! He doubles up his accusations. 8. 24 hours later, I share the info, since I had given up on Yasu. 9. Not good enough for Nobuo! The plan was never going to work! Norio's explanation was poor! Norio wasn't cooperating! (but Kin's explanation of the same thing was entirely plausible. ) 10. Norio says, "megabluck this guy, I don't have the time to put up with shit like this over a game." Since I'm 100% pure townie, well, Nobuo is the one who will look like a fool after it's all done. He can't fathom that another townie doesn't want to work with someone who acts like a dick, then gets high and mighty about it after. No time for it, be it physical time, or just the emotional time of dealing with someone so gung ho that they're right when I know for a fact that they're wrong. That's it. Bookmark this Nobuo, consider it deeply when this is all done. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ About Ichiro, I have a lot of concern with him at this point. I think he's trying to jump onto Nobuo's train, since Nobuo is the most vocal person here (and is he ever ) Let's share the facts I feel comfortable sharing based on our shared private contact: -I am talking to the likely town-blocker (assumed for reasons that would be anti-town for anyone to demand from me) -So, Ichiro is quite possibly talking to the scum blocker. Ichiro has stated as such to me: -It's likely both are blockers, and neither are a jailkeepers, since that is what they claim, but also because having identical methods is fair in that it doesn't give away their allegiance. So, my advice to Ichiro was to turn out that blocker, since they are likely scum. Ichiro can't do this. I said that he could tell me who it was, to make sure it wasn't the same as mine, but it really wasn't necessary, since his blocker admitted to blocking me, and my blocker admitted to blocking Nobuo. Anyway, despite repeatedly (two or three times) saying his blocker was suspicious, Ichiro won't turn them out. Ichiro wants my help. But he won't help himself. Since I can't help him, for the reasons I gave when I voted (some things have rubbed me the wrong way, the people I trust are suspicious of him and I'm not a leader, but part of a team). So, he turns it to be that maybe Nobuo was right! I am scum! Logically, since I wanted that all too crucial identity of town blocker! Let's follow this logic. Ichiro claims to know the town watcher, tracker, and blocker. The first two are very dangerous to scum, since they help verify roles, both for scum and town. They pretty much always are responsible for one conviction in a game. Blocker ends up blocking town more often than not, making it not a great town role, but often a detrimental one. So, if I were scum, Ichiro thinks I would worm my way up to him in order to get that blocker name before he gets convicted And that's what I would do as scum, risk myself in order to take out that town blocker. So, he's calling me scum, and probably egging Nobuo on, which can only result in more bon mots from our resident elocutionist, which I trust you're all looking forward to, I know I am For this whole clusterfuck of activity, I've come to greatly suspect Ichiro. He's inconsistent, and thinks it's better for him, a proclaimed true townie, to be lynched than a blocker he thinks is scummy. He can't make that risk! At the same time, he was happy to vote for Chieko (Scuba) for being suspicious, so he's not that conservative about nominating people. And giving some thoughts to the events of day one, it seems clear that Yasu was coached to play on what would be considered some predictability on my style. So, Yasu "metagamed" her roleclaim to me as a defense, well aware that I have rigorously defended and saved a few people who did the same thing in the last two lives we had. Of all the people here who are likely to play like that, to have coached that, Ichiro is near the top of the list. That that is why Yasu chose me is clear, and there was no real reason for Yasu to choose Ichiro, since Ichiro had no history like that. My vote stands

Actually, when piles of inanity land at your feet, sometimes irritation is a natural human reaction. No, mainly just you, you megablock. You spent a day telling me I had attitude and to cooperate. I had no attitude and cooperated with you. You proceeded to not cooperate with me, and had a crap attitude. Your behavior so far is blindly hypocritical to say the least. Today you bitch about childishness. Let me tell you something: when you're as blatantly wrong as you were day one, the mature thing to do is to admit it, apologize, and move on. But you still 100% place the blame at me. So, grow up, move on, look in the mirror, etc etc. I don't care about your vote, my town block is solid, and most people aren't so blindly myopic to still harp on things. Now that Yasu-chan is gone, it looks like you have taken her place as worst player here. Unfortunately, you are likely town, so I won't be voting for you for now. What the megabluck? Kami-sami went to all the trouble of crafting these identities for us and you keep calling someone 'def'? Wow, terrible, terrible, terrible, an absolute sin. You should be ashamed for your totally hypocritical behavior. Rant off! (See? When faced with inanity, it's easy to get irritated ) No hard feelings, but when you go after me for crap reasons, I'll double it and give it back to you. No attitude for the other people here though, the rest of you, you're all good in my books. I like you, always have, always will

I'm not fully convinced at the case against Ichiro-San. Early on, I gave him the benefit of the doubt since Yasu-chan had decided to name us both in public. I have been speaking with him, and he certainly has tried to fish me for roles that he could. But that wasn't exactly suspicious. I could quite easily see Ichiro-San trying to impersonate his former mentor, hinckley-chan, and try to do some townie hero routine, as a follow-up to his last life. Going against him are a few things. The first was that I don't trust the way he adopted my phrase, "anti-town" and somewhat misused it. It seems an attempt to ingratiate himself. Also, I know he won't be sharing any of the names of the town specials he's apparently rounded up. With him on the lynch, if he's a responsible townie, he'll make sure they're organized. But I don't believe the blocker claim he made, that that old, nattering sack of bones, Nobuo, was blocked by scum. I have personally received contrary information. The last thing that worries me is that, of the people I feel I've built some trust with, many of them are concerned with Ichiro's behavior. I am not confident about anyone's guilt today, so Ichiro is as fair a choice as anyone. Vote: Ichiro (Tamamono)

Well, we're nearing that time where we have to vote. I'm pretty unsure of who to lynch today. I have a number of people in the family I feel confident about not lynching, but not about who should be lynched. I don't think any of the accusations today are particularly solid. There aren't uncalled for, but they don't make a case I can feel comfortable with. I'm inclined to vote for someone checking in with us, but not really putting themselves out there. Off the top of my head, I'd consider: Tadao (The Legonater) Akio (Rumble Strike) Setsuku (Fhomess) Kenta (Nightshroud99) Yasuko (RileyC) Lizzy (Capt. Redblade) Shiro (Alopex) Hanako (Professor Flitwick) Akira (Bob) Maniko (Swils) Hiroki (Etzel) Daisuke (Scorpiox) Cherry Blossom (WhiteFang) It's partially based on those people not having had contact with me in order to feel them out, and me not getting a read on them in public. Obviously with such a large list, I realize that a fair number of those people are loyal to the family, so take no offense at being there Outside, the plum blossoms bloom, and the sound of a raven calls in the distance. The open space of the deserted courtyard amplifies it's cry, calling attention to the depth of its emptiness, an emptiness you can feel around you Actually, I'd like to take Akira (Bob) off that list And I'm on the fence about Kenta (Nightshroud99).

Oh, I'm not looking for a Friends Mafia, I just think it's inevitable.

There is no doubt that there will be a Friends Mafia eventually. It's just a matter of who wants to spend two months living in Friends's world in order to host it.

I really love the way the stars were rendered in the logo

And I was just letting you know you misconstrued my words. I am a champion of practicing what I preach. There was no contradiction there. Japanese is such a terribly vague language, so easy to misinterpret, so I'm glad we seem to have untangled that knot, as it were

Relax there buddy, I think you're breaking character If you take a moment to reread to posts you quoted, you'll see that "look down" was the phrasing that Maniko used, and I immediately followed that with, "look down is not the phrasing I'd use.". So there is zero reason to get your panties in a knot over that. You're offended because you didn't try to see the forest of that post, as it were. For the second part, all that was done in character, so obviously I'm not taking issue with role-playing itself. Or did you think I am actually a spy? So, to summarize, I'm having lots of fun, I think we can all role play, but when it comes to role playing vs. following the conversation, I know which one I value more. You're free to disagree with me, and apparently you do あのミスチカルカスルということは一体に何だか知らないよ。