General Magma

Arctic revamp... for some reason, I saw this one coming already. Not an Ice Planet revamp, since I doubt it's Sci-Fi related... that's how it ended up in 'Action themes'. Doesn't sound bad so far, although all I'll do with the theme is watch and see what it's like...

9469 Gandalf Arrives 9470 Shelob Attacks 9471 Uruk-hai Army 9473 The Mines of Moria 9474 The Battle of Helm's Deep 9476 The Orc Forge All LOTR sets except for Weathertop... which I couldn't afford to buy with all the other LEGO yet while not being available at the same time. Total: €305

One point worth noting, however, is that my orcs, Uruk-hai, etc. do have the 3 bars design on their heads... Not sure why... I just checked a bald LOTR figure (the Mordor orc in this case) after reading this post and noticed that.

Thanks to the guy above, a new idea for 'The Last Alliance' popped into my head. Wanted to fit Sauron's tower, Barad-dûr, somewhere - but I wasn't really sure where it would fit. So, we could have something like this (one main set and an additional battlepack): The Last Alliance Minifigs: Elrond (armored), Isildur, 2 Noldor elves, 1 Gondorian soldier (2nd age), Sauron and 2 orc soldiers. Components and scenery: The tower of Barad-dûr itself, where there are 2 possible "roof" options for the top: one with the Eye of Sauron, and the other without it from before his defeat. Other than that, it could come with some kind of catapult to launch multiple soldiers, to re-enact Sauron's attack scenes with his mace. The set could do without it, though, but might work here. Size: Large. Extra information: Could be re-named to 'Tower of Barad-dûr' or, perhaps better yet, 'The Last Alliance at Barad-dûr'. Something along those lines should do... The Battle of Gorgoroth Minifigs: 1 Noldor elf, 1 Gondorian soldier (2nd age) and 2 orc soldiers. Components and scenery: Mini catapult, some rock parts and some ruins. Size: Small. Extra information: This is the size of a regular SW battlepack with 4 figures and some small components - comparable to 'Gandalf Arrives', with 2 additional figures. There could be something else in place of the rock parts/ruins (components and scenery), but there wasn't much I could think of for this. (This one is part of the sets made for 'The Last Alliance')

Just check the actual costume - the chainmail should be dark blue, but is more likely to be some kind of metallic. (Still hoping for dark blue to fit with the cape if we'd ever get him as a figure like this...) - The rest should be gold, and his cape would be dark blue.

LOTR Bag End/The Shire set..? Rivendell? ...Like I said, I'm pretty sure he'll appear in a LOTR set somewhere.

I guess an Uruk-hai Army sized set could work with Elrond, Isildur, Sauron, 1 Noldorian elf, 1 Man and 1 orc... Can't replace Isildur either since he's a key character, so that's the way it might work. Perhaps they could toss in another generic figure.. not sure how they'd handle the set though, there's not much to it otherwise. No vehicles, just rocks, hills, mountains 'n all... I guess they should just do battlepacks unless they can find out a good way to have the set consist of a good amount of figures, as well as consistent of a good supply of parts.

Bilbo will probably make an appearance in an actual set, and the same might go for Sauron if the supposed hints for a future set of 'The Last Alliance' (picture of Elrond in battle gear) are true, and if they're not just for something else. We might just get a King Aragorn figure with his crown, or perhaps an Easterling if we don't get any of those in a set.. But even then, a main character is more likely... so, King Aragorn (less likely since if we're to get a Black Gate set, the only new thing would be the crown), Arwen (in a certain dress), one of the named Rohan guards... there are enough possibilities but it needs to be so that we'd have enough available characters in sets.

There is a much higher demand for Gondor/Orc/Uruk-hai/Rohirrim battlepacks, so I'm not sure if they would do Last Alliance battlepacks... I think they would just make a "The Last Alliance" set with Sauron, Elrond, some Noldorian elves, some Men, a few orcs, Isildur and some scenery around. Although there's something about that figure count that may push me back to thinking that battlepacks are likelier than this...

Him being in the Extended Edition wouldn't mean that he's less likely to be made into LEGO. If the Extended Edition scenes had any control over that, then I doubt we'd be seeing the Tower of Orthanc anytime soon - at least, not in ROTK state. But I don't think it does. Not sure what's too graphic about MOS either, when in the scene of the suggested Orthanc set, Saruman fell off his tower and was impaled by a spike on that war machine... in case you were referring to the Mouth of Sauron's decapitation. And a mixed wave with both LOTR and The Hobbit sets may be a bit unlikely, but not impossible - even if only 1 or 2 sets are LOTR-based.

I think it would be good to have a set of 'The Last Alliance' along with the sets from The Hobbit.. Think about it - if anything, it should work best that way, I suppose. Would like to have some more LOTR sets too, though.

I found it rather hard to choose a favorite, but I seem to like the Théoden figure best. The printing on the entire figure overall looks very good, although I like the Uruk-hai figures a lot as well... and the entire Fellowship... well, okay, all figures of the theme - but my vote goes to Théoden. Like Fives said, it's cool to see the designer of the figures post here - first off, my compliments, the LOTR figures are by far the best figures of any theme ever released in my opinion, and I can't wait to see all of the LOTR/The Hobbit figs we're getting in the future. Fantastic work there. Other than that, I'd like to know - if you are allowed to answer this kind of stuff - do you have any plans to create more different versions of the Mordor orcs, even if the current ones were chosen as generic figures? It would be great to have more than one kind of Mordor orc figure - for the Battle of Minas Tirith, for example, where they were more heavily armed, etc. - would be nice to have varying soldiers around. But on top of my wish list for LOTR figures would be the Witch-king of Angmar. Really hoping that there are plans for a figure of him.

I'd say we will get a Bag End set, but I wouldn't say that the set numbers or the prices are accurate in any way. Don't think a Bag End set would be that big - and they surely wouldn't make the entire location, didn't have much of a role other than serving as a starting point of Bilbo's adventure in the book... of course, this might just be changed by the movie, but I doubt it. I would still count on a Bag End set, regardless. I also wonder in what way they would attempt to mold the Wargs... the new city bear seems to have pose-able legs (though not all of them), hopefully LEGO Wargs will be able to move all four legs around. It would be nice to see some Moria orcs with helmets in The Hobbit sets as well, if there's no other chance to get them from future LOTR sets.

You can just easily place them onto the figure like that. Put 'em on and turn them around for a bit. I don't know if that's an issue with this figure, but just be careful not to break any parts.

Those are some awkward set numbers. And, it's still a bit early to say, but I guess that confirms we're just getting sets from The Hobbit, and no more LOTR until next year..

"Come into Uncle Sméagol's armsss!" "Come, give Sméagol a hug!" Well, arms like those make for the strangest of possibilities... The battle droids from the SW line are able to do the same things with their arms. I'm not sure if an entire topic devoted to this was necessary, though - but oh well.

I have no idea how he got them since they're not available 'round here for me either, and I live in The Netherlands... The expected release date was August 1st - where in the name of Gandalf did you get those, narbilu?

There is, certainly, a possibility of that happening - LEGO Batman 2 had it as well, I believe. I only wonder what it could be... Anything they wouldn't try to fit into future sets at all, I'd guess. ~ General Magma

Saw some Dutch retail prices as well - around 16-17 EUR as for LEGO S@H, but in some other stores the sets are a whole lot cheaper. Found Helm's Deep listed for €102. Now that's one I'd gladly buy at that price, but I will only buy the rest for a good discount, or whatever should lower the price. For those who discussed the sets from The Hobbit, they should be out in December. It's unknown whether there are LOTR sets along with those or not, but it is a possible thing - it seemed to have been hinted at before and it's doubtful that they're willing to release all possible sets for the first movie of The Hobbit already. We might see some more this summer, mixed with LOTR ones.

I decided to use some of my set ideas (see page 2) to form a possible range of sets for Wave 2, 3 and 4 of LOTR. (If the further LOTR waves are not mixed with The Hobbit) This list goes from smallest to largest - so it's done in a similar way as the first wave of LOTR sets we've gotten so far as for set size, amounts, etc.. This means that each wave should have 7 sets (3 small, 2 medium, 1 large and 1 exclusive), although TLG usually has differing set counts. (Look at SW) Wave 2 The White Tree Minifigs: 1 Gondorian soldier, 1 Gondorian Tower Guard (new helmet mold with wings and a black cape) and 2 orc soldiers. Components and scenery: The White Tree of Gondor on plates, and 1 or 2 barrels with spears and bows. Size: Small. Extra information: None. Orc Army Minifigs: Faramir (Gondorian armor), 2 orc soldiers, 1 orc archer and 1 Gondorian archer. Components and scenery: A rather large and curved wall of Minas Tirith, as some sort of expansion for the rest of Minas Tirith, like the official Uruk-hai Army set as an expansion for Helm's Deep. Perhaps a catapult or something else that's small, but the wall would have to stand tall, and the set would be a Minas Tirith version of the official Uruk-hai Army set, so the piece count should be about equal. Maybe just a small catapult or something. Size: Small. Extra information: It's mainly an army builder set and a Minas Tirith expansion in one, like the official Helm's Deep + Uruk-hai Army sets. Attack of the Witch-king Minifigs: Éowyn (Rohirrim outfit), Merry (Rohirrim outfit), King Théoden (wounded) and the Witch-king of Angmar. Components and scenery: A brick-built Fell beast for the Witch-king, and 1 white horse for Théoden. Size: Small. Extra information: This wouldn't be everything for The Battle of the Pelennor Fields sets, this is just the part in which the Witch-king plays his largest role. Amon-Hen Skirmish Minifigs: Boromir (grey cape*), Aragorn (*), Pippin (*), Lurtz (armored) and 2 Uruk-hai scouts. (new helmets) Components and scenery: Some trees, plants and foliage to resemble Amon-hen. Comes with the Seat of Seeing where Aragorn draws his sword, right before the battle begins when Frodo escapes. Size: Small or Medium. Extra information: While Merry and Pippin are already in two sets so far, it would be reasonable to have one of them here with grey capes to resemble the Lothlorien cloaks they received some time after the passing through the Mines of Moria, and to have several other members of the Fellowship with the cloaks as well for a better variation. (Size is around that of Weathertop) Tower of Orthanc Minifigs: Gandalf the White, Legolas (cape), Gimli (grey cape), Saruman and Grima Wormtongue. Components and scenery: The Tower of Orthanc, a bit scaled down and not minifig-scale (that would just be too big) with place for Saruman and Grima on top, the pointy warmachine near a blue baseplate (resembling water), Gandalf's white horse Shadowfax. There's also the palantir, which could be one of those small globe pieces in printed form. Size: Medium. Extra information: None. The Great Gate of Minas Tirith Minifigs: Denethor, Gandalf the White, 1 Gondorian soldiers, 2 orc soldiers, Gothmog, Pippin (Gondorian outfit) and 1 armored troll. Components and scenery: The large gates of Minas Tirith (where the trolls play their part in), with large walls on both sides of the gates, curving a bit backwards and 1 or 2 buildings to be placed inside. The gates could have a play feature to be smashed apart and re-assembled later again, but gates that just open are more likely. Other than that it would have the large rock wall with the 'bridge' and some things on top, including an open space to add the White Tree of Gondor, for which you need the 'The White Tree' set. with the gates of the tower and a small hall with statues and a throne at the end for Denethor. Size: Large. Extra information: Since Minas Tirith is so large, I decided to not put everything together as it would just be too big and too much. This is part 1: the gates. Hobbit Escape Minifigs: Merry (grey cape), Pippin (grey cape), Grishnákh, Uglúk, Snaga and 1 Rider of Rohan. Components and scenery: Parts that make up the Uruk-hai camp near the forest, the border to Fangorn with several trees, with some more trees, plants and foilage behind it, and also Treebeard. His arms and legs can move independently and he can stand on the baseplate for the ability to stomp onto Grishnakh, like in the movie. So Fangorn Forest is built up on a baseplate with some trees, the border (created with trees), and the camp components stand loosely on small, dark tan plates. Comes with a brown horse for the Rider of Rohan as well. Size: Medium. Extra information: The Rider of Rohan is different from the one in Uruk-hai Army and comes with a printed helmet. (Dk brown and gold) * EXCLUSIVE SET * Wave 3 Forest Attack Minifigs: Frodo (dk. green cape), Merry (dk.tan / olive green cape) and 1 Nazgûl. Components and scenery: A blue plate with a bridge built over a part of it, with the Bucklebury ferry at the end where the Hobbits can be placed. Other than that, there would be a black horse for the Nazgûl, and one or two trees. Also comes with The One Ring, and maybe just a sword or two for the Hobbits. (Although inaccurate; if it's done it would be done for playability for the kids who buy this too other than us people here) Size: Small. Extra information: Merry and Pippin both got olive green capes in the first two existing sets they appeared in, which was rather inaccurate, especially for that time period during the movies. Dark tan would be more accurate here. Mount Doom Minifigs: Frodo (no coat, 'wounded' look), Samwise Gamgee (no coat, 'wounded' look) and Gollum. Components and scenery: Plates to form lava with the 'bridge' leading towards the end, with some rocks and an entrance outside. Size: Small. Extra information: None. Last March of the Ents Minifigs: Pippin (grey cape) and 2 orc soldiers. Components and scenery: A scaffold with a play feature to make it collapse, and a brick-built Ent (because we already had Treebeard in wave 2 otherwise) that is fully pose-able and can stand up on one leg on a plate to stamp onto an orc, for example. Size: Small. Extra information: None. Battle of Pelennor Fields Minifigs: Legolas (cape), 1 Rider of Rohan, Shane Rangi (Haradrim leader) and 2 Haradrim archers. Components and scenery: One large, molded Mumak (also known as Oliphaunt) with the Haradrim archers mounted on them, and a horse of any color for the Rider of Rohan. (Preferably a new color, rather than brown) Size: Medium. Extra information: Could be in-between small and medium, and serve as a larger kind of 'battlepack' to recreate the Battle of the Pelennor Fields. (Although it only has 3 generic minifigs) Paths of the Dead Minifigs: Aragorn (ranger clothes, cape), Gimli (cape), 2 Dead Men of Dunharrow, The King of the Dead, 1 Corsair captain and 1 Corsair spearman. Components and scenery: One of the Corsair ships of Umbar with sails and Paths of the Dead cave entrance with some skulls. Size: Medium. Extra information: The inclusion of the orc was done to have the possibility of having a more special orc figure. He represents the orc who led the army that Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas ran into after stealing the Corsair ship. Gimli could be replaced if the minifig count is too high already or to be replaced by another Corsair soldier/archer. The Black Gate Minifigs: Aragorn (Gondorian outfit), Éomer, Mouth of Sauron, 2 orc soldiers, 1 Rohirrim soldier, 1 Gondorian soldier and an armored troll. Components and scenery: The Black Gate itself in a pretty large scale, Brego (Aragorn's horse), Mouth of Sauron's black horse and maybe some scenery to add something to it. Size: Large. Extra information: None. March of the Orcs Minifigs: Frodo (orc armor), Samwise Gamgee (orc armor), orc linebreaker and 2 orc soldiers. Components and scenery: Bits of a camp with some rocks, torches and a bit of a rocky wall from when the Hobbits slide down. Size: Small or Medium. Extra information: One of the orc soldiers could be replaced with an orc inspector. * EXCLUSIVE SET * Wave 4 Warg Attack Minifigs: Aragorn, Rider of Rohan, Sharku and 1 Warg Rider. Components and scenery: Fitting scenery, 2 horses - 1 brown (Brego) and the other (dark) tan or white, and 2 Wargs. (New molds like the city bears) Size: Small. Extra information: None. Saruman's Betrayal Minifigs: Gandalf the Grey and Saruman. Components and scenery: Palantír holder, Saruman's chair/throne and an entrance gate. Size: Small. Extra information: Could come with both Gandalf's hat and hair, or just with his hair for a wounded face as a secondary facial expression, if he has his hat they wouldn't be able to do that. Siege Tower Minifigs: 2 orc soldiers, 2 Gondorian archers and 1 troll. (2 trolls would be better but is very unlikely) Components and scenery: The orc siege tower as seen in the film, used to attack Minas Tirith - it was pushed towards the walls of Minas Tirith by trolls. Size: Small or Medium. Extra information: Could come with a wall similar or identical to the one from my 'Orc Army' idea, with a play feature to destroy/topple down the crenelations and/or a top part of the wall, with a boarding ramp so the orcs can run into Minas Tirith from the siege towers. The Golden Hall Minifigs: King Théoden (maybe 2 hairpieces, 1 blond and 1 white, with a reversible head: 'normal' and 'cursed'), Grima Wormtongue, 1 Royal Guard (with helmet), Gamling, Legolas (cape) and Gandalf the White. Components and scenery: The hall itself, placed upon a baseplate with gates at the end (and some space outside for a part of the stairs, with 2 flags), with pillars, a throne and probably walls. Would be like Weathertop where you can open the thing. Perhaps with a removable roof if needed. Size: Medium. Extra information: None. Minas Morgul Minifigs: Frodo, Samwise Gamgee, Gollum (new facial expression), 3 orc soldiers and an orc lieutenant. (The one with the skull on his head) Components and scenery: Minas Morgul itself with the two statues in front of the bridge, with a part of the 'winding stairs'. Size: Large. Extra information: 2 orc soldiers look the same, the other one is different from the rest. Hopefully TLG will have many different versions of orc soldiers, rather than having just one or even a few of the same orcs running around. They RARELY looked the same! Rescue in Cirith Ungol Minifigs: Frodo (bare-chested), Samwise Gamgee (no coat), Gorbag (orc), Shagrat (Uruk-hai), 1 Uruk-hai scout and 1 Mordor orc. Components and scenery: The tower of Cirith Ungol (perhaps modular, or at least with a way to see the inside sections) with perhaps a bridge (or path) of some sorts at the front. Would have a large staircase inside, with some play features to re-enact the orc fights. It would lead all the way to the top where Frodo was captured, before Gorbag tried to kill him. Comes with Sting (Frodo's elven sword, worn by Sam in this set) and The One Ring. Size: Medium. Extra information: None. Arrival in Rivendell Minifigs: Frodo (no coat), Bilbo (old, no coat), Elrond, Boromir, (no cape) Arwen (dress) and Aragorn (Rivendell clothing). Components and scenery: The location for the Council of Elrond, with several chairs, some sort of round block in the middle with the ring on it, walls around the place with a baloncy at the end, and a door or staircase somewhere leading away from it. As for the part of the movie where Bilbo is, there could be a loose bit with part of a balcony and a door leading into some sort of apartment. Could come with some plants, foliage and things such as trees for behind the balconies, but those are unnecessary. The set would come with Bilbo's sword, sting, for the scene where he hands it to Frodo. Other than this there would be the building where Frodo wakes up to recover from his injuries. Size: Medium. Extra information: * EXCLUSIVE SET * ============================================================================================================================== This should cover up most of the possible sets. Have a look at the top of page 2 of this thread to see some more ideas of mine. I'm not sure how many more large sets would be a possibility - I thought of Minas Morgul since wave 4 needed a large set, and I didn't have any others. I wanted to include a LOTR version of The Shire as well, but I decided to go with my own 'top priorities' instead, since we're likely to have a Bag End set in one of the waves for The Hobbit. ~ General Magma

This looks fantastic - great work Elander! Gotta love seeing all of the Fellowship together in one scene as well. The details are a great touch, each of them. Once again, very good job on this. ~ General Magma

Has been noted several times before in the 'LOTR 2012' thread. I guess they did it because the soldier was using a quiver, and they might still have wanted to add in a cape - you can always switch it around and give it to the soldier, instead of Éomer. Not sure why you made a separate thread for this. ~ General Magma

I'm pretty sure winter waves never feature large sets like that, and since it's been hinted at that we may be getting LOTR sets along with The Hobbit sets as well, they may do another mixed one for next summer. (To cover up most (if not all) of the first Hobbit movie sets) ~ General Magma

Something tells me they're saving that for an Amon-hen set... If the hair really bothers you that much (I myself don't really care, it works well for me) you could always try young Anakin Skywalker's hair, from the SW line. (Episode 1) ~ General Magma

Lurtz never wore armor like that, so the regular Uruk-hai body is the way to go. That's what Lurtz used. I just hope we'd see a new hair mold if they'll ever do a set of Amon-hen.. and perhaps a new head print. ~ General Magma