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I agree, but this isn't transformers. This is an action flick loosely based on the transformers... All of the other generations did have differences, true. However they all focused on the struggle between the two sides of transformers. This not only has a radical departure in design (which can be forgiven), but it has a radical departure in story and focus. This movie isn't about Autobot vs. Deceptacon, it's about the Humans surviving the war. The robots barely spoke, they were barely in character, and they took a backseat. As much as I agree that the various incarnations of Transformers have differences, they were all at least somewhat similar, they were all recognizably Transformers. This...has a departure from that.

Then don't say they didn't profit or anything. They were selling out. You think people use product placement for the hell of it? No, they use it to help pay the bills. The sad thing is that it's noticeable and detracts from the film. Except that in the storyline humans played a minor part at best. In this movie humans had most of the lines, and a large focus. When you think of the movie, who's the first name that will come to your mind as the protagonist? The human kid, or Optimus? :-| Humans should have barely been in it, that would be the story line. I did, you said that he needs a sense of humor. Well I'm pretty sure he has one, I mean he's a funny guy, so to say he doesn't, just because he doesn't like what's written into the movie is...well it makes no sense. Um, since when does an action movie have to have no plot? You can't say "well it has no plot...and things don't make sense...and a lot of the dialogue sucked...and there was no brilliance in it because it was an action flick. Honestly if they're going to piggyback off such a large and powerful fanbase, they should invest the time, effort, and creativity to make it a great movie. There's absolutely no reason it couldn't have been the next academy award-winning film. You can have action and a brilliant film, you know. Besides doubting the whole 95% thing, it maybe was okay for $11 admission, but to say johnera? *wacko* anyway guess what? If they couldn't make it for the fans (which, honestly, would make the most sense. Why not make it for the people who love what it's supposed to be?) then they shouldn't have made it. They can't afford $150 million? Guess what? It didn't have to cost $150 million. Hire less well-known actors, make the visuals a little less. There are a million ways to cut the cost. A true artist would never sacrifice their artistic vision for the sake of money. That's called a sell-out. A sell-out for the sake of saying "look! we made $150,000,000 film! Come see it please :'-( " Where are you getting that from? If you're just worried about making a lot of money, yes. If you want to make a beautiful representation, a memorable film based on what your vision is, not at all. Lucas, when he was making Star Wars didn't expect it to be liked at all. He would have been grateful for the film remaking the production cost, and even then wasn't counting on it. But you know what? He didn't tweak the movie to make it what he thought the fans wanted, he kept it the way he wanted it. That's the difference between the Prequels and the Original Trilogy. And yet that's exactly what they did *wacko* Exactly, he was more worried about money and his career than making a masterpiece. "Hey, let's just make another action flick! It'll get the ADD-audience of today to sit in their seats for the two hours, and they won't have to worry about following it. Explosions, explosions, explosions!" Maybe there was, but that's not enough to make it good There are very few movies today that have good acting, and even fewer that have great acting. The level of what's made today is so low, that the bar hasn't even been set lower, it's been dropped. Therefore when you see some really bad acting you think "hey, that was pretty good", and when you see some really good acting...oh wait, you don't anymore :-| No, you don't 'need' to, but you still could have without making the Autobots what they were. You could have kept the super-realistic textures and CGI without radically changing the appearance. It's akin to some game designer throwing a crappy game out with great visuals just to show off the new hardware. I guess we won't know how it would've done now since it was buried... No, you're not. You're a Transformers the Movie fan, not a Transformers fan. They're two entirely different things sadly, especially if... So you liked the original series and hated the new one? Anyway if all you're worried about is money (like you seem to be suggesting), then make the movie a generic action flick, and leave transformers out of it. If you're going to make movies based on a well-established franchise, then do it right.

You're right, it is filled with crap about him. If only they cared enough to tell the truth about the real villain there :-D

I've said this before? Could you show me where? Besides, it's not like I'm wrong...

Sure, as long as you weren't Jewish or a woman... :-|

Product Placement...it was a huge publicity stunt. But if it worked back then, why not now? Surely we haven't become THAT self-centered and egotistical that we can't enjoy something unless we're the focus... Yes, maybe if he had a sense of humor he'd realize the absolute truth that your sense of humor is better! Oh wait, everyone had a different sense of humor, and he, along with A GREAT DEAL MORE, felt that the humor was lame, corny (not in the good way), and just plain pathetic. You like it? Good for you, you have a different sense of humor, but do NOT start insulting people because they don't laugh at the things that make you laugh. I guess you've never heard of The Phantom Edit then? There are many times that die-hard fans know what the movie should have been, if only from what the movie they saw wasn't. Okay, this was a movie for 'everyone', too bad it turns the die-hard fans off enough to keep them from buying the DVD, merchandise, and re-watching the movie. They shouldn't have tailored the movie for everyone, but rather made the movie the best it could be WITHOUT worrying about who would see it. That's how the best movies are made, they're creative efforts that don't worry about who will like it, and how they can make the most money. And when it's something like this, pissing off the primary fanbase is just a horrible idea. Look at what happened with the prequels.... Wouldn't you say a movie should have more than a single scene that a person likes? Sounds like he gave it a chance, why else would he watch it, with his wife right there, as a means to show her and justify his hobby to her? Although you have to admit, seeing the radical change in character design, minimal use of dialogue, lame acting, and bastardization of the plot into a human-centric script would turn most people off who actually want to see Transformers, and not "Humans A, B, and C with guest stars: The Transformers"

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I haven't seen this before! It looks more than worth the price for that Maul head and young anakin hair, not to mention the pilot! Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Erm, also moved to the Star Wars subforum ;-)

From the internet of course X-D

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I have to say, I love the way his laugh is so close to the Mark Hammil laugh (best joker ever) Also, in case you didn't see: http://www.ibelieveinharveydent.com Followed up by: http://www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com Highlight the page- between the "HAs", pick out the letters; they spell "See you in December."

Yup, but I can see how you missed it. Don't forget to run a search, but I appreciate your eagerness in sharing some new information! :-) Please continue discussion in the link posted above.

Well thanks for that contribution? Honestly if you don't stop spamming up the forum you won't be posting at all...

Very nice, I love the neck! Not something you see much in mecha. Very evangelion... deja vous? :-P

I guess you haven't checked the other topic, eh? :-P Brickshelf isn't closing down any longer.

That's Anakin in his Clone Wars form

Well, I think you can greeb up around the intakes a lot more. Similarly, the guns could be beefed up a lot I think, that's always a great place to go greeb-happy :-D The engines are a tiny bit blocky, but it sorta/kinda fits in with the coffin-esque theme you have running with this 3vil ship. The skull itself is perfect, I wouldn't touch a thing! But those slopes seem a bit bare, but I'm not sure how well that can be greebed, maybe replacing them with angled plates would allow for some interesting designs. I'm sure wherever you take this, it'll be phenomenal :-)

And all this time I thought you were a walrus...and now I find out you're a cat? Or are you just cat on your mother's side? Either way stop confusing me :'-(

That's like the most disturbing children's book I've ever read *wacko* I think Hinckley has some sort of brain infection. We may need to operate >:-)

Very nice skull, one of the nicest 3vil skulls I've seen in fact! It could do with a tiny bit more greebling in some semi-hidden places though.

I'm sorry :'-( I didn't mean you, if that helps :-)

I think we found some of them... |-/

Maybe, but I love you anyway *wub*

AHEM Someone needs to read his own site more :-|