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Lego posted pictures of a fan-made TBOBF throne room set and looking at the pics I really hope they remake Boba's helmet with the new color. On a beige/sand background, the color mismatch from the jetpack and helmet to the armor is super noticeable and it's the first thing you can see. What are the odds they change it to the better color from years past? I can't remember a time they retroactively changed the color or part of fig but I was wondering if anyone has. Also, when did we start to see picture leaks last year cause I feel like the x-wing and tie from this year had already been leaked prior to last December, but I'm not sure.

I for one am thrilled that we finally get a Prequel set even if it's an overpriced accessory pack. If it's 3 plain p1's that's cool but if it's 3 different colored p1's then I think we've got an issue cause it wouldn't be great for army building. Also being a Lego exclusive sucks cause that means it will sell out the first week or so and then be missing in action forever. The price doesn't bother me as much cause I'll only get 2-3 to fill out my AT-TE but if they were to come out with more AOTC sets this year (fingers crossed) then I think the price won't matter and I'll just pull the trigger. Hopefully, if the pack sells well we'll get P2 SHINIES for the FIRST TIME SINCE 2015.

It's weird but I actually became a fan in college so I guess the target audience for the Ghost would have to be diehard SW fans since it's not currently airing. I was in middle school when Rebels came out and didn't like it (partially cause it canceled CW) but nevertheless. I think kids still liked it cause it follows the cookie-cutter formula of a found family arc with a protagonist who quips. From what I can tell it's less popular than CW but more popular than a lot of the other Disney stuff. To be fair you do have to sit through a crap first season to get to Thrawn and his arc which is where the show gets really good but nevertheless, I still think it would sell really well without every kid knowing the show.

To touch on the past discussion of PT vs OT and Bricklink price hikes as related to PT: As someone who was/still is a kid 5 years ago the prices on Bricklink for many of the sought-after PT sets/figs are why I complain about OT coverage in recent years. When I was younger it was impossible for me to get certain sets because of how expensive they were thus I never even had a chance to get a Venator, Gunship, or AT-TE even though those were my favorite ships in SW. The Coverage of those types of ships has lessened recently even though OT coverage hasn't. After reading through the thread it seems PT and OT are nearly even on sets after factoring in Rebels, RO, TCW, and Solo but I don't think it's fair to lump everything together. TCW has over 60+ hrs of content and characters and was released over a 6 year period where no other SW content was being produced so it was the main thing to make for toy companies(Keep in mind OT is still getting great coverage during TCW years). By contrast, even though the sequel trilogy was released over the last 5-6 years OT coverage stayed the same (or went up) while PT coverage fell off like Luke's hand. So as someone who can finally spend a good chunk of money on Lego and has the space to store said Lego I'd like to buy an AT-TE and Ventor to display next to my clone army and UCS Gunship. I don't want another freaking X-Wing with R2 freakin D2 (though I love R2). I wanna see some of the sequel stuff from TFA get the UCS treatment and I want to see a UCS Ghost. (For the record the Ghost is the one ship in LSW that I'm so sad I missed out on/was too poor to buy. I think it would actually sell incredibly well but will never be remade cause Lego doesn't understand consumers change opinions after they watch a show.) I don't think it's the crime that some people in this thread make it out to be to want something different from a company that says "Only the best is good enough" (not to sound like a certain someone but I think it's fitting here). Also, while Bricklink prices aren't an indicator of demand since it's mostly AFOLS on there it is an indicator of how a certain segment of Lego's consumers feel about certain products. Even if your consumer base is made up of kids those market trends don't just change when a couple of 17-year-olds turn 18. The trends of prices that bricklink shows on each piece, fig, and set show fans want certain things (like 212 troopers or Captain rex). Also given that those same trends (PT enthusiasm and clone trooper love) are reflected on social media on YT, Insta, and Twitter means Lego and their defenders on this forum should at the very least take note and not dismiss outright the possibility of changing demand from OT ---> other things. Also if I haven't driven this point home enough in the past the GHOST SHOULD BE REMADE IT WILL SELL LIKE HOT-CAKES.

I don't think a couple of sets from animated shoes means TLG has made "a fair amount of prequel era sets." It means they've done the bare minimum for the content made in the last two years by Disney. The lack of sets and desired minifigs from the prequel MOVIES is what really bothers men and other fans cause it wouldn't hurt to throw a set or two our way since the rest of the wave will be some boring OT rehash. Also, I'm not sure if people remember but there was a chart from the last discussion which showed how many sets of each era and movie TLG made and it showed a very large discrepancy in coverage. Even though OT toys are more popular than PT (a point which I would argue following CW 7, BB, and the hype for Kenobi/Hayden's return) that discrepancy was too large for there not to be at the very least speculation that Lego dislikes prequels. Now does all that mean there is a hatred for the prequels and a large conspiracy, NO. It just means TLG has a bad gauge of what their fans want and instead of following SW sales trends in 2021 they're looking at 2010 numbers. Hopefully, we see new cool stuff from all eras (I personally want some of the sequels stuff in UCS) but I doubt anything but OT will see the coverage we'd like. Regarding Rex, both a minifig and a helmet would sell well but the minifig more so cause the last one is still so popular and he'd complement a collector or a kid's clone armies much better.

I think if any show was to get a set next year it has to be Kenobi cause it's the most hyped show on SW's 2022 slate. If Mandalorian releases next year then we'll get sets in 2023 but not earlier. I think next year will probs just be OT and some Boba Fett/Kenobi stuff, also I doubt Grogu comes back in Mando S3 so we probably won't get any more of him for a while.

I doubt we get a new mold for the Ithorian gang leader since they already have a hammerhead mold and it's decent. I also doubt we get any of the new characters from TBOBF in the palace or other BOBF set since we had to wait a couple of months to a year for new Mando characters back in 2020. If we do get a character it will most certainly be a bounty hunter who shows up for an episode or two and nothing more. I'm not sure where you read that we'd be getting sets for those shows but I doubt we see all of them, probs just Kenobi. Lego isn't going to do one BB set the entire 1/2 half of 2022 (which is criminal) so I'd expect them to make the same mistakes with all the shows other than Kenobi cause even the dunces at TLG know the power of Space Jesus. I guarantee we see a summer wave of OT+Mando, 1BOBF, 1 Kenobi, and another overpriced black base OT set. I think people just want something exciting and entirely but I've learned from TLG and this forum that exciting new figs and unique sets are not something that we should expect or even ask for.

I'd rather they kept spoilery/cooler figures for sets after the season finishes so Lego doesn't do what they did with the BB shuttle and leak a major plot point (Crosshair turning) and I know they needed the shuttle to release and Crosshair was already rumored to turn BUT if I remember correctly Disney was still super pissed about the LAN/insta leaks that week. SO if there is any reason that we won't get any new main characters/cameos it's cause of Lego's inability to stop leaks.

While I agree that there should be a bit more quality in UCS figures, even if they are a bonus, it's pretty clear Lego can't decide what their stance should be. Earlier this year they said they were a bonus and no cool/sought after fig should be locked behind a paywall, meaning UCS sets will include fewer figures and they wouldn't be sought after. However, in the AT-AT they've included 9 figs only two of which are "new." I don't think there's a need to include any more than two figs, AT-AT Driver and Veers, cause for the people who want this product an extra 5 snowies and Luke won't make a difference, and according to their statements following the Gunship debacle they are a bonus to the model. Now I try to buy every UCS set I can get my hands on at release cause I really enjoy their multi-day building process so I didn't purchase to many 2021 sets as I was planning on getting this one and I couldn't be happier with the model. The interior is really fantastic but what I like more are the (hopefully) posable legs and detail on the head. I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be one of the best UCS sets ever.

To be fair you're probably right on the baby rancor but the mudhorn definitely should have been built and while I might prefer a mold, a brick-built mudhorn (micro-fighter or actual set) would be great too. On the topic of molds and brick-built, I think the Dewback from the Mos Eisley Cantina MBS set is a good example of meshing brick-building and a mold together. The brick-built saddle for the stormtrooper and the mold go perfectly together and IMO look great. Doing something similar with rancor would make it "lego" enough for me while still using a mold.

It seems TLG doesn't want to give us any of molded creatures from SW cause I was hoping to get at least one of BB Baby Rancor or Mandalorian Mudhorn.

Yeah, that's become a common occurrence, I remember when Mandr, Falcon, and Fulcrum broke the setlists for this year they both mentioned 75369 which still hasn't been used and seems to have been canceled.

I didn't know that my bad, I've never actually bought an accessory pack and only have Mandalorian brickheadz so I'm not as knowledgeable. However, this might be a good thing cause that means the republic tanker might have more merit as part of the 1st half-year wave since Death Star Trash Compactor will release after the dioramas.

I'd bet that it's not the tank rumor, which doesn't have much merit, and is more likely one of the three rumored SW sets w/out set numbers: Ahsoka Brickheadz, Accessory Pack(s), and Death Star Trash Compactor set.

I thought we were done giving random sale numbers and costs. I doubt very much that molds cost 100K or anything close to that. See attached quote below for reasoning. On the nite of CMF's if/when we get a SW CMF I bet it would be for one movie/show and not by era. And if so I don't see how they would reach the 10-12 character target without some repeats/ slightly upgraded figs. Thus my guess for a CMF is either Lego goes all out on a CMF and makes new molds for relatively smaller characters (like Dex or Zam Wessel) or they would do things like an arm print Obi-Wan or Jango and it might fall flat since there won't be those sought after figures. I don't think they'll do this but making small accessory packs for $15 from each SW movie/show with maybe 1-2 new figs/characters would be perfect. It'd be a great way to make sought-after characters available (since the designers made that very clear in the Gunship reveal video) and it would be cheaper so more fans could get their favorites.

This sounds about right but I wouldn't be surprised if we get an Omega and only one massable character as the 4th. I know accessory packs usually have something new but with SW they will sell themselves and when it comes to clones the design team is stingy with details so I doubt we get a new mold, maybe we'll get a new sticker or something. I don't think they'll keep the a $20 price range cause army builders are where they can sell many multiples so they're gonna try to increase the price as much as possible. They already did so with 501st (yes we got two builds and 2 droids but still) and we're getting a $20 Hoth BP so I would guess they'll increase the price every couple of years and sell a $15 accessory pack, with 3-4 figs and no build instead cause that's far fewer pieces and they can make more money, its basic stonks. You and others keep saying SW has a "different budget" but I don't think we see that being put to use. If this vid is accurate to how it works in 2021 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3oiy9eekzk) new molds don't cost as much as people think as it's all the same machine. I think the budget is probably entirely marketing and their design team (cause the designers are very good for LSW) and not for new molds or new pieces. If they had this immense budget we'd have holes in P2 clone heads and a stormtrooper helmet that turns around, and I know I keep going back to that but it seems so obvious and easy that I will mention it in this forum till I die. Of course, if you meant small budget then forget everything I just wrote.

To be fair the battle pack was sold out and non-existent for its first 4-5 months but point taken. It's not really about selling out Lego but rather making something different that includes clone troopers who are stupid expensive on the secondary market (which Lego has all the data from cause they won Bricklink).

You're so very close to the point but still no cigar. SW IP is not damaged, it's quite literally the most profitable toy IP for both Lego and Hasbro and that is without a doubt. Doesn't matter if the sequels and some Disney stuff are hot trash (TLJ didn't kill it off yet), The Mandalorian and CW-7 revived SW in 2020, and it's fully back in the top spot. I guarantee it will be a reveal of a Hoth battle pack and AT-ST.

I would say the popularity of CW sets after years of their releases say enough about show sets selling and should negate the over-cautious nature of Lego release. 1. X-Wings for $40 cheaper are all fine and dandy but that doesn't mean they're new they're just smaller and cheaper. It's not some huge revelation to sell a different variation on the same ship. 2. I mentioned a clone helmet mold cause that's one of the bare minimum things that should have been done forever ago. Also just cause we get a couple new of molds for new characters doesn't mean we shouldn't have a better mold for older iconic characters. No need to be such a big corporate defender I promise you Lego can afford it. 3. The dual starfighter set is incredibly popular on the aftermarket and would be refreshing in comparison to what we have now which is an OT remake every 3-4 years. 4. Just cause you to mention other ships that have been made doesn't mean a lucrehulk wouldn't be new. In fact, it's precisely because they made that god-awful Dorito Tie and the Galaxy's edge transport that there should be a new separatist capital ship. If useless crap like that can be made into a Lego set why can't Lego make a new Separatist cruiser or lucrehulk. Point is that it's objectively true that TLG doesn't want to try new things with SW that doesn't revolve exclusively around the OT (except for one mando helmet, so sorry for forgetting that). Also, I think it's important to mention that you didn't have a response regarding the CMF series because you know just as well as I do that something like that is long overdue for LSW.

I conced this is true in part but it doesn't mean the demand isn't there nor does it mean that Lego can't make the CW and prequel era sets that are desired. Even if everything you say about in-store sales is true that doesn't mean that the online pre-order sales of clone troopers and popular bad batch characters aren't real. The demand for that era is still there and just cause AFOLs don't like/hate the prequels doesn't mean that Lego shouldn't even touch the era. My point was more that Lego should branch out of OT just as Hasbro has because the non-OT stuff sells. I didn't mean to say Hasbro was more popular or better stocked than Lego, that's my bad. This is literally the point that some of you refuse to see.

That's a fair point but if you remember Rebels sets failed more because they were released months prior to the season starting and once the show actually aired the sets were no longer marketed. You have to look no further than Hasbro to see popular SW content selling like hotcakes from all eras of star wars. Black Series has had a run for every major movie and show release and they nearly sell out every time. The Fives (CT-5555) action figure that was sold last year sold out quicker than basically every OT action figure on their site and its success has prompted tons of CW Black Series characters and other action figures from that era of SW. Hasbro's success with pleasing quite literally everybody from OT purists, to hardcore clone fans is what lego should take a cue from. And if you don't believe walk to your local Target or Walmart and go to their Lego and action figure isles. You'll see the X-wings and TIE fighters riding shelves but you won't see Black Series CW Anakin or Hawk. That's just not accurate though is it. The difference in price usually (over 200 dollars) makes UCS entirely different. Making an X-wing for 30-40 cheaper isn't something new, something new would be making a Star Wars CMF like they did for Marvel, or a dual full-scale starfighter set (like Vader+A-Wing from rebels) or a P2 clone helmet with holes or Force Ghost figs or a Separatist Lucrehulk-class set. Some of those aren't set ideas I know but they would be new to LSW and would be a welcome change from the same OT stuff every year.

I've just read the last couple of posts and a lot of people are saying Lego is trying new things and I just don't think that's true. Smaller starfighters aren't new they're just cheaper. Dioramas are just sets that are sold with black bricks + a quote for $20 more than they're actually worth. UCS prequels are also not new and should have been around for the last 10 years as they were the first 10 years of LSW. Helmets are actually new and cool but also fall into the growing group of sets that are smaller, displayable, targeted towards adults (and made more expensive). The fact is they haven't tried anything new in a while and they refuse to make sets on the new media that have been released in the last 1-2 years (Visions, TBB, CW7). TBB has no new sets in the first 8 months of 2022 which is absolutely idiotic cause they have a new season coming out in 2022 and had a popular first season in 2021. Instead, we get two dioramas from the OT which are expensive and made for a very specific segment of your fanbase. The dioramas are popular in this forum because here we are nearly entirely AFOLS and older OT viewers, however, in the grander scheme of Lego SW fans only a small fraction of fans will want these sets. I know this because, as made aware to me in the previous thread, kids are the majority of buyers and adults do the buying for them and no matter how much you love OT you're not buying a $60 - $80 lego diorama for your kid to play with you'll buy a $20 land speeder with a nice farmboy Luke. I think lego has just been lazy in their set ideas for the first half of 2022 and they have had very opportunity to make new stuff from new media or explore unmade prequel/sequel stuff but instead we get more OT.

While that would be incredible I doubt they do a set from TCW S1-S6 in 2022 but if they were to do one I think they'd make it relevant to characters who are popular now like Ahsoka, Rex, and (Maybe) Echo not from Yoda's training arc. Also, I think, as a lot of people pointed out in the last thread, parents, and kids who haven't watched TCW won't recognize the set/scene so at an $80 price point it would sit on shelves until sales.

Compared to ST and PT then maybe but since we get so few of PT it's hard to actually get accurate numbers on that. However, compared to CW and Mando I don't think so. Until recently the Slave 1 and Mandalorian Fighter were sold out on shop at home and for its first few months, the Razorcrest and 501st BP were virtually extinct in stores and online. Sets from the new shows with desirable figures will sell like hotcakes compared to another AT-ST, even if it's a hoth version.

Let's think of it a different way OT: 3 remakes + 3 new sets + 2 Helmets + 1 Statue (Movies from 40+ years ago) + UCS AT-AT+GWP ST: 1 set (Movie is from 2015) PT: 1 UCS Gunship (Movie from 20 years ago) New Media (2020-2021) CW-7: 2 sets (Show aired 2020) + Ahsoka Brickheadz The Mandalorian: 5 sets (Show aired 2019-2021) BB: 1 set Visions: None While you're right there seems to be something for everyone it still doesn't make sense that the non-OT/new media (BB, Mandalorian S2, CW-7, Visions, and PT/ST) have 11 sets while the OT which is popular but not new gets 11 sets too. The marvel example isn't the greatest but it does show that new stuff that's relevant to new shows/movies is possible so its fair to want that. Also I'm not asking for 11 PT sets or anything close to it cause TLG and the OT purists would never go for that, but maybe we get 5 OT, 2 PT, 1 ST and the rest of the sets (maybe like 14-15) are new stuff.