Jim

Okay, let's discuss LEGO parts again

Yup, I definitely did! What a race.

We have a topic where we discuss things like this. Can't find it right now.

I hope so, but I haven't got a clue.

Finished most of the write-up, but I will still need a full day for the details etc. Hope to publish it next week. It won't be as elaborate as the Porsche review though, so don't expect too much.

That would be so awesome! Thanks!

No problem. We enforce a maximum rule to avoid long loading times for other users. I know we don't host the pictures ourselves, but if we all start embedding very large pictures, the page will load slowly.

You beat me to it hehe. How about simply posting it and adding the instructions later?

Hi Zanthera, Can you embed pictures with a maximum width of 1024 pixels? You can use Flickr to host hi-res images and link to a smaller version. Bricksafe works great too. If you use imgur make sure to upload a 1024 version. Thanks.

Wow, excellent work guys! This is, yet again, an amazing build!

No problem! That will be difficult, since they are not printed with a color printer.

Email sent. Not sure, but the seller is (Walter) EB member @8421XXL, so you can contact him directly. But new members can't send PM's.

Please don't use EB for self-promotion.

I don't necessarily think it's a negative thing.

Marketing: "We definitely need a girl in this video."

Valid point

We also need to take into account that when you were 10 years old, you had one or maybe two flagships. Now you are basically waiting for the next year's flagship to buy it. So most of us have like 10, 15 or 20+ flagships. We do have so much material to compare. When you were 10 you didn't know any better.

My nephews liked it as well, and indeed they loved putting the bricks in the buckets and watch them go. I guess the GBC element has something to do with it. True. I even started making the chassis for the full RC version. I never got around finishing it. I do have the partially finished chassis though.

This is the performance we are looking for! Out of the box it's way too slow.

Well, I can tell you that my nephews of 4 and 6 have been playing with the 42070 the entire day. Along with the 42069, which they liked better because of the little system built items, but nonetheless they absolutely love the 42070. The 4 year old even understood (with some trial and error) how to switch the functions. They didn't care about the turning radius....or lack thereof I have also read on numerous occasions that kids love the BWE and I reckon that's not because of the smooth working functions. They simple love the sheer size and the impressive build. Edit: they do love putting bricks in the bucket and watch them go. I do agree that the 8109 perfectly embodies what Technic is (or should be) al about. Medium sizes set with an impressive primary function and some nice secondary functions.

Life is all about expectations. Having the right expectations often avoids disappointments. As an AFOL we expect a big Technic set to be perfect. As a kid (or non AFOL adult) you are simply amazed by the sheer size and you f...ing love the big set, even though the suspension isn't on par or the gearbox has the incorrect sequence. We are probably in the top 1 or 2 percentile of people who are very critical about Technic sets. So, the question is; would I be disappointed if I actually paid 400 euro for the Chiron with the current suspension or 300 for the Porsche with the faulty gearbox. To be honest; no, I wouldn't. Because I am not looking for the perfect Technic set. I am looking for a fun building experience and some nice features. Of course, I love it when everything works perfectly, but most of the time I play with it for about half an hour and then I disassemble the set, or put it on display for half a year (until the new sets arrive). Admittedly, I can play with the folding headlights on the 42039 B-model for hours

You are absolutely right about the things mentioned in your post So yeah, I get the point about Technic not always working properly and I am not really sure what to think of it. Part of me thinks that there is a form of suspension and it's kinda working and part of me thinks that the set costs 400 euro, so it should work properly. By the way; the rear suspension of the Chiron isn't working properly either (for me).

I feel the need to rectify or nuance my previous statement about Technic sets being parts packs. Of course, a Technic set first and foremost is a finished model which should operate properly and look nice. Regarding the functions; I've said it before, but some (most) of the functions feel more like proof of concepts. That is something which bothers me slightly. When I look at the turning radius of some of the models, you wonder why there is steering in the first place. Therefore, I do agree that there is little progress in the improvement of the functions themselves. Everything is getting better, except the functionality. Part of this is due to the fact that it still is LEGO, but when you say "it's all about functions", they need to be working properly.

That makes a lot of sense.

I think you are sightly missing the point of our discussion. You don't need to shut up and walk away. You can perfectly criticise the choices made my TLG, as long as you state why you dislike them. There has been a lot of "These sets suck"-like comments. We definitely don't need to be yes-men, but we do need to criticise in a mature constructive way. And sometimes it's better to refrain from commenting than constantly expressing negative feelings. When I see something I don't like on Facebook (or Eurobricks), I skip it most of the time, instead of stating why I don't like it. If you feel that you are constantly disliking every set that comes out, than maybe sets are not your thing anymore. That can very well be the case. Enjoy the new parts and save yourself a lot of money I buy a lot of SW sets (mostly UCS) and none of them are 20 cents a piece. They are all around 10 cents a piece.