Medzomorak

Does it have the authentic Lego seal on the top of the neck? If it is not chemical damage/fake but some Lego made misprint it might actually have some worth.

We won't have any evidence for anything until TLG chooses to give us some insight about their business methods. Until then I'll be pragmatic and conclude if something does not sell they're just pulling the plug. I do believe they are operating things as simple as that.

I don't think you have to worry about that, City is always going to linger around and some Prison thing will surely come along.

No one was talking about that.

I think the new Space Police was all over Space Opera instead of Sci-fi Space. There's a huge difference. Just take a look at that alien space-motorride. That is some +6 cartoon level. Also humans being the only peacekeepers gave a bit of an imperialist ubermensch feeling to the theme. That's a space opera cliché again. I'd take the Blade Runner vibe Space Police I lineup anytime.

I beg to differ. Those two figures have different backgrounds to implement on. I did not know anything about them but after a quick search I see this Galaxy of Adventure is somewhat of a cartoon tv program, based on the original Trilogy. So it is not the same subject interpreted in different ways. At the toy layer, they are based on already two different products. One of them is a derivate of another of course, but at that the end they are different. And we can agree that not the action figure came first, but the show. So this is why the cartoon action figure goes after the cartoon design. In the toymakers eye this is now not a question of interpretaion just authentic implementation. At least if you mean the two Horntail sets; this case it is a false comparison because the dragons are strictly modeled after the same movie scene. This is not about scale, this is about design authenticity. You are implying the root cause again in piece number. For that argument I had my answers above (Drogon already starting as a ~1600 piece build). Still you are right in a way. If we would get someting more minifig scale, ultimate badass dragon version (like they've built a hulkbuster and a - somewhat too oversized - ultimate hulkbuster as well) I'd have almost no problem with that bad Horntail attempt. But Lego had not done so yet.

Wonderful build! Love the color scheme, especially of the Styx and the tentacles. I think you may try to enhance the scene by brickbuilding Charon's boat to be more antique and menacing.

I think Vindicare had a strong point here, but I'm still with you on the issue. You was not that subjective at all. I'm not a space guy myself, but just as I've disliked the one-yeared themes with Pirates I feel the same things with those different space runs. Lego should really start to understand the power of basic uniformity inside genres, the power of factions again. I personally hate this shallow approach of leaving the whole work behind if it does not sell as good as SW instantly. That is a very outdated business thinking in my opinion. Lego should stop throwing darts randomly on the board and try to evolve all released ideas instead of throwing in the towel all the time. Or if it really turns out to be a money sinkhole, just create the new angle indeed but create some links at least. The newer space themes had zero connection, they've all seemed so distant to each other. They had independently pretty good sets but together they also seemed to be the reboots of each other. The human good guys against silly aliens. Also I don't think any of them was better then the previous one, so why not making a common universe at least? Also why making one of them (Mars Mission) aliens a bit more menacing and the UFOs cartoonish like hell? This is why I think Fantasy Castle was one of the strongest modern themes. When skeletons got boring the trolls came and they were quite refreshing , still not in an entire reboot. They also brought the dwarves. A super faction expanding the same universe again. Then the Market Village for some world builder set. These factions were all different and independent, but still had their common ground. Also they had cool figure packs. That's how you keep up constant interest for years.

They don't really exist in large digital versions. You may try to buy some of the older posters but I think that's it. You need to google for large images or scans and try to renovate them with digital tools. For example, that's what I'm planning to do with pirates, buying this poster below, scanning it then removing the creases with some software tinkering:

I agree. As far as I'm concerned with Ninjago beasts the green dragon is actually most the authentic asian dragon so far in the whole series. I like this dragon for different reasons. It is not so unnaturally vivid in coloring like the rest of the Ninjago builds. This milder pastel green (sand green in Lego maybe?) is so much acceptable for an actual beast. There's also lesser mechanical feeling to it. BUT. It's still supposed to be a mech, isn't it? This actually resembles a folklore japanese dragon and of course it has some character by the molded headpiece. Here's Moko‘s asian dragon for comparison. Altough this is classic green again, but the build itself is very conservative, very beasty serpent-like. Anyway, if you guys really made me choose from the Ninjago palette, I'd say this Green Dragon was the best of them. Funny, it is from the movie series and I think it's no coincidence. Everything had just more refined design there.

Whoo, what would I do to see a version of this for classic pirates! Do you know what would really improve this from 10/10 points to 11/10? Remade dioramas for every theme or joint ones as parallax backgrounds.

Doing the same. Mostly because of old color palettes, but also to keep the pieces together.

I don't like it, I love it! I just don't want this in a system castle historical/mythological theme.

Because It was a cheap solution. One of my favorite themes is Vikings, and I've loved the dragon so much as a kid, because they were truly an improvement in size, head design and moveability. But they were lazy to design more system-like dedicated joint parts (like the ones we have today). Take the Nidhogg for example: For seriously. Such a beatuy at first glance. Amazing body design, great head peice and great wings, good scale. But then I take a look at the neck. It is a damn bionicle leg. I know it is Lego, and Lego is about freedom, but that is not freedom. That is a dedicated bionicle-mechanical leg. Its design is all robotic. I don't remember reading Beowulf or Norse mythology meantioning any mechanical necks going on with those drakes. Then the claws. Gosh, they even have tiny pneumatic textures. Those are mechanical claws, period. I'd be double freaked out as an norseman warrior seeing a dragon with metal claws. This was not made by design. This was sparing money by reusing allready existing technic and bionicle elements instead of investing in newer ones. And this is not the adult me talking, I remember saying the same to my brother back in 2005. So I humbly disagree about better MOCists using those big, static dedicated parts. I think they are mostly Bionicle fans and Technic builders, that is their own style. This is how prefer a brickbuilt dragon: And this is what I'm not okay with for System-like sets.

I agree with everything you've just said. Considering this I may accept Ninjago as being something really special, even if I generally dislike the theme and prefer the old Casle Ninja way. Maybe there'll be a time when Marvel, Star Wars, Batman, Harry Potter and these pop cultural figures will become truly boring and nothing new will block the way for Lego's own creativeness.

Nooo...but yes. I think the Elves ones were good for that category. Sadly they do not represent Medieval dragon tales very well. They're the girlie kid's version and I'm pertty okay with that. I've also liked the Smaug in the molded category, the wings are beautiful and it is quite big. I don't like half of the Ninjago ones because I just get too much mecha feeling from them (I know Peppermint_M have pointed out one that is nicely built and big, but that's again too much a ninja-robot-helicopter vibe for me). Mainly, I would love to see some truly folklore 4-legged or bipedal dragon (whether a Wyvern is being dragon or not is not my issue at the moment - I personally think it is a mythological subtype), which is not surrounded by robots, ninjacopters, motorbikes and so on. The fantasy castle dragons were a bit cartoonish +4/Elves category for me. The Vikings were almost the best, but as I've said I hate the Bionicle and Technic parts. So yes, at the moment I'm only dissatisfied with the Horntail, because that was the best situation to finally create an authentic, really medieval folklore-inspired drake. Rowling borrowed a lof of europian mythological elements and dragons were pretty well represented by her and the movies. And they've blew it. This Copy company went into the market gap and chose Drogon. And they did not blow it. That's the whole story for me at the moment, yes. One last thing about the molded head: I want the head to be molded, because dragons are - most of the time - characters as well. Their head is the very root of their character, just imagine the iconical Smaug with brickbuilt head. It may be creative, but won't give the same feeling like an authentic molded one. Just as parrots, monkeys, horses, elephants, camels, bigfigs, the dragon has to have some molded 'face' so it can be taken as an independent character. For they are quite big I'm not against to give them built body parts, but the head is a crucial part to give it just enough of big Lego figure feeling. My Ideal Lego Dragon: I think you either go fully molded like Smaug with positionable wings, or go brickbuilt/hybrid molded-brickbuilt with a molded head similarly to this Lego copy Drogon (which also started as a 1600 pieces MOC design, so you won't convince me it is truly about piece count). Brickbuilt headed ones can stay within Creator without a problem, because that's where character and authenticity is not needed only building... creativeness. I'd love to see a theme following this more folklore-fantasy dragon direction, like McFarlane's Toys does with their models:

Ah, lucky bastard

Wow, did you get it as a kid? Because that's bank.

I understand your point, but honestly I'm just not so forgiving in this case. The first horntail came into existence in 2005. It is one of the best and most valuable dragons for molded fans behind Smaug. 15 years later, when brick built direction is more preferred we get this. Okay, we may see the other grey dragon (from the Bank scene) later on, but it is highly doubtful a new horntail would come along anytime soon. No one told Lego to create it from 125 pieces, considering this is a fan favorite beast from this universe. I've included the other dragon designs so we may very well point out that Lego has the budget and the skill to create all kinds of dragons. Now, if I just translate what you've said, you agree with me that this dragon is not that good. Only that you want to present it with a very possitive attitude. But following this method, there is no bad sets, everything is just acceptable if we take wider and wider scopes into consideration. As I said I'm not compromising with this. Thus comes my conclusion, that Lego has dropped behind with folklore dragon designs* after this horntail. It is not good. *I'm omitting dragons with brickbuilt heads - like Nexo Knights, Ninjago - as they're too robot/mecha like for me. I need the molded head to get more of an alive feeling from it (but that's just a personal taste).

Architecture was my favorite theme while coming out of my Dark Age. It was really about unique architectures (especially those 100 years old anno-futuristic house designs), now it is just a very expensive skyline series. Totally agree.

There's a lot of kid's toy in game of thrones category not to allow me to accept this point: Also I think this is again a new angle to try to validate Lego's design, so I humbly try to point out again: The Drogon is just an example for authenticity. It is a great design and for today's average piece count measures it is not something Lego could never do. And again: The Harry Potter horntail is still nothing like the one we saw in the movie. It would be great as some kind of general giant bird (with feathered wings), but for a horntail, it is a lazy design. I wouldn't even say it looks bad as a Lego build, only it is not what it should represent. For an unnamed castle or creator set I'd even like it. Here, a MOC by Brick Munkey. This is how you do a horntail dragon. Just give it a molded head, some wing rubber material, no need to throw away a lot of specific bircks to make it lighter in piece count and there you are. Ready for kids to play.

I don't see how the horntail is not the main focus of the set, or why a brick built dragon shouldn't ever be. I haven't really noticed these elven dragons, that's my bad. I don't really like them being four legged, I'm more like a wyvern concept fan, but these are well built in their own league, I agree.

But I just did compare it. It really shouldn't be the piece count that decides whether a model is actually looking good or not. You just omitted the fact that Lego REUSED the head piece to build a unique model, while also ruining the original scale (like the neck). It has nothing to do with piece count. A bad design is a bad design. True, I did not mention Ninjago dragons. Most of them are actually pretty great indeed. My only concern that the whole Ninjago design concept includes a lot of mecha/robotic, modern weaponry vibe to the builds so I can't really say which one should they be, beasts or robots. So they're a bit off, but only from a fantasy point of view.

I just saw another Lego clone (MEGA Construx) dragon set and got surprised how far Lego dropped behind with some of its designs. I think this is how Smaug should have looked like. Or how an ultimate version of him should have been released instead. In the meanwhile the new Lego Hungarian Horntail looks nothing like the original dragon in the movie. They've just reused the bird head part, even the old molded one was more authentical: The old horntail is the most static one ever, still my favorite because of the nice shape design. However I'd prefer dragons to be mostly brick built. Sadly, for some reason I get the feeling molded ones are still better, because Lego just can't do it right with bricks. Smaug is pretty cool for a molded one, but as I've said, the Drogoth version would be the ultimate way to create a legendary beast with wings like a hurricane. Newer castle ones gave almost too +4 feeling to me. The viking ones had better size and dynamism for it, but too much use of bionicle elements: At this point I'm just going back again realising how simple, silly and adoring classic Lego was.

I know this sounds heretic to a lot of fellow members but I say it: Star Wars I think it is just plainly boring at this point. Same sets, same vechicles for 20 years now, almost done everything. There is always room for improvement for sure, but just looking at those Star Wars collections on shelves doing nothing except gathering dust feels senseless to me. I know it is not my wallet but I think more like a pop cultural collecting addiction is going on here and not a creative Lego experience. Like this collection: I just don't get this. Okay, huge dioramas and MOCs are cool indeed, but again it is just too much of a "Star Wars owns Lego" and not the opposite feeling to me. I also dislike Minecraft. I think it is twisted in many ways: A computer game equivalent for Lego made into...Lego. So you have a kid who plays Minecraft all the time. Then gets Minecraft Lego sets well. So at least he/she is not playing on the computer all the time. Only building something in Lego which is actually just a smaller copy of the digital product. Then the Kid is going to run to play it out o the computer again. Maybe the parent should buy more Lego Minecraft to ease the addiction. Okay, I'm just being provocative, but still. I think the whole Minecraft milking thing is twisted. Lastly: Lego Batman. I also dislike the idea of a new batman movie coming. I just don't get what is still there to tell with that poor character again. What is that something that has not been revealed so far so we need to rape the character again and again?