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Yup. This is a spineless and stupid move by lego, born of taking a spineless and stupid approach to anything that could be seen as remotely controversial. We don't have an official reason in canon- because disney's afraid of words- but in legends it was named the Slave 1 because Jango took it from his captors after being kept as a slave. For the inevitable people going "it's just a word on a sticker it doesn't matter", last time it was just what's on the packaging, now it's something that's part of the actual product. Would you agree with us never getting a Watto again because his character was a slave owner? It's just a bit of plastic, it doesn't matter. What about Poggle or any upper-caste Geonosians, given their unfair caste system you could draw real-world comparisons to? What about the other massive amount of star wars characters who have done terrible things that could correlate to real world crimes. Bariss Offee bombs a religious site in an act of terrorism, for example. Grand Moff Tarkin and Darth Vader torture a teenage girl. Mando is racist to droids- we don't want to encourage racism, so clearly we can't have anything to which a correlation to real-world negative events can be made, since that would clearly mean we're endorsing that negative thing. It appears to be. Absolutely not IMO- sounds like it only has one figure, who is assumably christmasified, and of course the ship is a christmas tie. It's not any more OT than Jedi Cad Bane in the tiny tank set is PT. Lego's started putting their releases out much closer to release date than they should be, in my opinion. Less than a month for a system set is absurd. Slave One looks good, name aside. Solid update to the 2015 model. Having the 2015 model, I'm not going to drop $300 on the less iconic color scheme, but for those who couldn't find it secondhand relatively close to retail, or prefer Jango's color scheme, this is a great choice.

Some of these work- Bo-Katan becoming more heroic when her civilization returns to the one she was trying to bring back, Nala Se was arguably never a "villain", etc, but that is a really odd trend and yeah a lot of those characters shouldn't be redeemed. Unfortunately re: Aurra, it's entirely possible similar circumstances occur since Beckett's a known lier. Silhouette leak is fine- shaping looks good, it seems pretty similar to the 2015 slave one, down to using the same windscreen and the same part at the tip of the "nose". Which is fine, that model was really solid and if their only major change is redoing the shaping at the base with some of the newer parts, it'll be a good model even for 10 years after the origional.

Those also flopped historically badly for star wars sets- at my local walmart we had that second one down from $50 to like $15. If they do count as animated sets, they aren't giving us a positive outlook on getting more. Honestly the only Tales I've found interesting have been the Dooku ones. I like Ahsoka but she's oversaturated and they just straight up overwrote her book, couldn't get through either of the imperial ones, and neither of these are interesting to me. I've never been all that interested in the more heroic ventress, and Cad Bane's backstory is also something I've never wondered about or been interested in- IMO it kind of defeats his motif of being the "stranger from a strange land" as TBoBF put it, the western villain trope. I like the concept, but the characters they choose have generally been profoundly uninteresting to me. As far as it relates to lego, it's not like it'd be much more than getting the tales-specific costumes alongside Jedi or Imperial vehicles...

Fair, I guess I should specify that other occasions would be the exception and I'm assuming they'll typically be holiday/Christmas based given the time of year. Which makes sense- nobody's going out and buying Easter sets in late fall, and if it's still an October release Halloween is cutting it a little close. Menorah Y-wing in 2026? Vader's Snow Castle? Santa's Podracer? No problem, I assumed that was what happened. I do think Gingerbread works better, as others have said, the grey lines can be white frosting and the black panels can become nougat-colored gingerbread. Actually, the image IS an advanced, which I wasn't putting a ton of stock into but it would be a way to get a Santa Vader in the set with only the one figure. I feel like lego would want a major character in the set, so that might be why they chose the advanced. (And it better not stop us from getting a normal advanced...) Can we pin this post to the start of the thread?

Oh man, yeah, pretty much everyone who dies at the end of the Ignition Trilogy goes out in pretty visceral ways, but Icarax's was particularly brutal. No coming back from that one. Dread it, run from it, turtle arrives all the same. Thank you! They're meant to each be a figure from all the characters we were talking about in the aslume thread- for each poster who was involved, we've got Samaritan, Police Leader Police, Womp Rat, and a member of Mudhorn Company.

I mean that's totally fair- I absorb franchise lore really easily, but I haven't read a ton of comics and I've only seen a scattering of the DC movies. These aren't DC but if you're getting into comics, I'd reccomend Invincible (the only superhero comic I've ever read that actually let's it's main character grow and evolve and age and the story actually ends rather than marvel and dc where the characters always have to return to the status quo) or the Moon Knight run that started in 2021, which is a good entrance to those "new start point but it's still the same guy from the 80s" stories, a good mix of wackiness, grounded violence, and emotional weight, and with some nice visuals to go with it. (Plus moon knight's one of my favorites, so I always have to represent. As much as I like Daredevil from the netflix show and some of the earlier comics, his comics of the past few decades don't do it for me.) Well then, just a quick lore dump on some of the craziness that is bionicle: There are three major interpretations from the creators: Purely Sci-Fi, a more religious/spiritual one, and one in which the Toa represent medication and the Makuta represent cancer cells. Lego officially ended up confirming the sci fi interpretation towards the end of the story, making some of the more mystical elements like the Red Star into sci-fi concepts (The Red Star, a sort of omen earlier in the story, is revealed to be a space station that can revive the dead. Because the story remains unfinished, my favorite character ends up trapped up there with zombies at the canonical conclusion of the story and it's never resolved.) There is a scene in 2007 commonly known as "bionicle Jesus dies on the cross" as it reads like a direct parallel to the biblical event. (Not exactly, but it's a very similar situation in which a jesus like character sacrifices himself for the soul of his species, dying but sort of also ascending to godhood.) There are a number of extremely brutal deaths excused by the characters looking robotic, but in the story series people are torn in half, shattered, I think get their spines ripped out, etc. There's a scene in which Makuta, ascended to godhood, kills a number of the most powerful characters in the lore. These were people who weren't necessarily allies, from all corners of the universe, but because their universe's devil become god, they all teamed up sort of like in the Infinity Gauntlet when the Elders of the Universe all try to kill Thanos. While most of the others are more graphic, the one that always stuck with me is one guy gets turned into a painting, which isn't all that graphic but the idea of the bad guy just turning you into a piece of art in an instant spooked me back when I first read it.

I don't know. You're probably right about collectors but when I was a kid I was much less likely to buy a lego set if I didn't know or care about the figures (Not that I'm not that way as an adult anyway, but you get the point.). My favorites were Iron Man and Captain America, and I didn't really like Hulk and Thor, so as a result I only wanted the captain america bike and iron man vs shield truck sets rather than the hulk and thor one. Maybe that wasn't widespread, but I feel like most of my friends were similar.

I was making a joke- you can go back and look at my posts, I agree with your general sentiment that the franchise isn't doing well. I do think the amount of content is a big part of that. There's less emphasis on individual projects being good when you're dropping 4 a year instead of 3 a decade. But I know time is rapidly whittling down on this of-topic tangent, so before we're all dropped into the rancor pit, I'll move on. Yeah that's our extra holiday set, I guess. Appears the 2024 battle pack remake was an exception to the holiday rule. This is an interesting choice (Obligatory "not a christmas clone trooper?" joke), especially if it's an advanced as the picture indicates. I don't tend to go for stuff that doesn't fit into the universe, but I think it'll be fun. I hope it brings Santa Vader back, the ugly sweaters in the advent were always a downgrade from the santas in my eyes.

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Can't believe I missed this, but yeah, that would be supinkman (Assuming a similar naming convention, and with pink kryptonite as this one's canon event) Some other variants I guess would be hoodperman, Jor-elman, mosuperhawk, gogglesperman, maskperman, and nocapeperman My favorite DC movie. My april fools joke is making an actual legitimate comment here on Turtle Tuesday but yeah no I think even 5-7 is a bit optimistic. The only reason I'm not completely ruling out anything more than Batman and Joker is because we don't seem to have a marvel modular this year and we know the themes share a budget.

That would indeed be the challenge, yes. The structural issue in the waist? I assume it was just a design oversight. People have found purist fixes for it.

That's what I'm saying- the things that aren't clearly april fools are so obviously likely that I could have said all them as "leaks". I just think the game that leaker was playing hurts his credibility because it gives him an easy out for some very simple guesses. As others have said, Kathleen Kennedy has been around in some capacity since well before George left. Dave Filoni was literally his prodigy so to speak. A number of the people around when George was there are still there. A new head with a new priority list, or even just some new writers, could easily fix the issues the franchise has been having. You don't need to fire the concept artists and Joe in the storyboarding department, or even all the writers. You just swap out the person at the top, and/or hire some different writers for these projects, and you can fix it. I can back this up. I've hidden this from you all for too long, but.... I am Jim Galidor.

I'll stop defending my point on the Lucas thing (though as always, my best argument is once more just waiting for @Swordy to explain it better than I could), but from what I see the "playing it safe" discussion hasn't been shut down yet? I want to make clear I'm not saying star wars should always play it safe, I'm just saying it's what the franchise needs right now. Right now if they start a new trilogy or something, it's going to get a lot of instinctive backlash from fans who are fed up with the sequels and many of the shows, and the general audience just doesn't have a high enough opinion of the franchise to come out for something new after losses like Acolyte and, from a film perspective, the sequels. If they take the next few years and play out with just what they know should do well/be well received (And this seems to be the case- IIRC the only live action projects that are actually in full production are Andor S2-which I guess is done with production but you get it- TMAG, and Ahsoka S2, which I know some people didn't like but putting aside my selfish love for it, it is a Filoni project and at least it didn't have Kenobi or god forbid Acolyte level reception), they can build back some goodwill (and from the executive perspective, stuff like TMAG is pretty much guaranteed to turn a profit) before moving to the next big new thing. (KOTOR, KOTOR, KOTOR. Doesn't even have to be an adaption of those characters, just bring us into that era) But you see, this is exactly why I think TMAG is needed. You say it can't get any worse, but I assume you felt similarly after the sequels but before Acolyte. They've done big stories, and while people don't like to hear it, their most successful one with the general audience was Mando, which played things pretty safe. They try an Old Republic trilogy or something right now, I don't think the GA shows up. They bring mando to the big screen, maybe don't make a billion dollars but at least turn a profit and get the general audience going "ok, that was a fun little adventure, I can get behind that"? They're in a better position to start the Kotor saga (again just an example- they could do a New Beyond saga or a saga set a hundred years after or what have you) in 2029. I guess another way I'd put it is, which movie do you think would do better in theatres next year: TMAG, or the Rey movie? (Nothing against Daisy Ridley, who I think did a fine job, and Rey herself isn't much worse than any other SW main protagonists, but she is the main character of some pretty controversial movies.) As far as this relates to lego, no matter what choice Lucasfilm made I refuse to believe we wouldn't still get sets for a star wars movie, but with TMAG we can all safely assume we'll be getting a solid wave of sets. A new Razor Crest, an AT-AT, and AT-RT all feel like givens, and while I won't speak on less publicized plot leaks there's another set or two and a number of figs that I think are pretty likely. Edit: Carterbricks has put out a list of SW leaks for April Fools saying "some are real". I'm not familiar with the source, but I don't like this move- that one leaker last year who's april fools was full of crazy stuff that mostly turned out to be true was cool, but this one is pretty easily split into "clearly april fools" and "minor detail that's a pretty safe guess but if it doesn't turn out to be true he can pretend it was also april fools." This might be a bit spicy but I don't think he knows any of that information for sure. Stuff like Fallen Order K2 or Geonosis B1 are clearly jokes, but then things like "yularen/tarkin/krennic are in the death star", "Bacara has a new mold", or my personal favorite, the already known "Plo Koon's astromech only has a head and no body" reek of guessing with no info with the fallback of "it was all april fools, that was the joke" if somehow none of it's true.

Thanks! Sounds like Soundwave will be $180, at that price I'm hoping he's got at least 2-3 casseticons with him. But I know I'll be buying him no matter what... I'd like it, we know from Kre-o that it would probably do well, but so long as lego keeps transformers as an adult-oriented part of Icons rather than it's own thing I don't know what the odds are. On the other hand, I really don't think it would cut into Hasbro's sales much- they just scrapped the $10 price point for their main transformers line, which was their cheapest price point, so $5 CMF figs wouldn't really have competition. The Blockees blind bags would probably upstage them, being $2 more for a figure with four times the parts and double the size. The best hope for a lego transformers CMF is Blockees failing to break into the US market, which is a real trolley problem for me as I still only have half of the first wave from when Walmart put them out as an experiment. Call @hachiroku Hawkeye because he literally cannot miss. I'm unaware of any specific G1 megatrons out there at that scale, but I'm sure they exist. I got most of the way through one the size of the Icons Optimus that turns into a cybertronian tank before giving up on the transformation (and honestly I think I could probably get it, there's just so many other projects I have on the backburner that I could see lego doing officially that I want to get them out before one I know lego won't touch.), and I know in terms of icons size there are both non-transforming ones out there and one that turns into a gun that I've seen elsewhere. I think @Soundvox posts a lot of mocs on this forum but they tend to be smaller scale than Hachiroku's.

I am spartacus the one who prevented acolyte sets. As for the ISB... let them come. I'll make them pay for what they did to Mandalore. We're gonna ignore the fact that the only time you've seen Arkham is in lego DC supervillains and just continue- Apologies, in a weird way Police Leader Police actually does feel like it makes more sense than Police Commander Police. I'm taking the word back, it's a sick sounding term and I won't let it be so prominently associated with that onscreen media that I hesitate to call a star wars show. To be fair, Bionicle Gen 2 was all about being unfinished and unrushed, and even towards the end of G1 we had: 2008: This is all going really well. People are gelling with the Toa Inika, but they also want the Nuva back. Quick, let's swap the Inika out for the Nuva in the third phase of our trilogy, and then also swap around the colors to change which set is which character, it's not like elements and characters have notable silhouettes or designs, right? Nobody's going to tell that Gali was supposed to be Onua! 2009: The story that we just unnecessarily complicated is getting too unnecessarily complicated for kids to catch up, instead of concluding the main story and setting our heroes on a new adventure, let's do a full soft reboot with a new cast to keep things simple! The main character is literal god, who's body has been possessed by the literal devil, and he's actually just a mask that's using divine power to project a corporeal form. The mask will be represented in his set by a helmet. It all takes place on a post-apocalyptic planet, but for completely unrelated reasons to the devil stealing the god's body... (Proceeds to drop like three years worth of lore in one year.) 2010: Fans are mad about our soft reboot and new kids aren't getting drawn in to our super simple post apocalyptic outcast god story? Scrap the theme but put out one last wave using the cheapest and most hated figure template. (I actually don't fault the designers for that last bit, they fought with lego to get any sort of last wave at all and consequently had a budget of twelve dollars) Post it here if you do end up building it, a physical Aslume set would go crazy

I hope so- lego clearly doesn't have much faith in them, but while I don't think the movie doing well would get us a new set of them, maybe they can be added to the doomsday sets- a year feels like enough time to swap around some figures. I dunno- there are so many characters announced that a lot of them HAVE to have pretty small roles. I think Marvel knows they need more than RDdoom to get the doomsday hype going, and since a lot of cameos and surprise characters recently have been open secrets in these movies (or even directly shown in a trailer like Patrick Stewart, IIRC), I think publicly announcing X-men "cameos" is the next evolution (or de-evolution). There's a whole semantic game about what a cameo is, so I guess when I say I think they'll be a cameo I mean I think they'll get an illuminati in Dr strange level amount of screen time wherein Doom shows up and kills them all and we either forget it's the DP&W universe or DP&W are saved by Loki and sent to MCU616. The whole "what is a cameo" discourse has gotten pretty severe ever since people started saying Gambit/Laura/etc were cameos in DP&W (Absolutely not, they were supporting roles), but I'd argue Patrick Stewart is a cameo in MoM. Very little screen time, big name, doesn't really do anything in the movie. Even Thunderbolts may be too late- from everything we've heard the standard development cycle is a year and a half for a set, and Thunderbolts is only about a year away from Doomsday. But you bring up a very interesting point: Right now, for both the lego sets and the movie itself, Doomsday is in a very unique spot. What Marvel and Lego both know is that most of the new phase 4 and 5 characters haven't been very popular. So they have three choices: 1. Barrel ahead with Samcap leading She-Hulk, White Vision, Shang-Chi, and the Young Avengers into battle (I actually liked Shang Chi a fair bit and love Kate's Hawkeye, but they fell victim to marvel setting up a billion threads and then forgetting about them) and just hope people show up for the avengers group anyway/ hope the doomsday branding sells sets with figs that have shelfwarmed before. 2. Cross their fingers that the course-correct around the time of daredevil (Which, by the way, is super jarring- you can totally tell what's pre and post rebrand, as well as the fact that Jon Bernthal rewrote all his lines, but on the bright side Disney seems to know this and is letting him write the Punisher special) is going to lead to Thunderbolts and F4 being hits, and focus on them/ hope Thunderbolts and F4 are set sellers. 3. Cameofest any characters the audience still has goodwill towards and take the short term cash grab over setting up any long-term characters/ put the now announced and nonspoiler X-men in the sets to drive sales. Marvel seems to be doing a mix of the three (I put RDdoom in the third category), and it's too early to call for lego, but IMO two is the best long term bet. You need a new crop of characters people care about, so better to risk it on Thunderbolts and F4 than go with what you know doesn't work or get one-to-two more cameofests out at the expense of the franchise's future.

@TheBatstan hasn't caught on yet, now's my chance, the opportunity I missed last year: The Lishell Al Gaib has returned. Fitting that Demo Dummy is what brought him back.

No, wait, this makes sense. It's two years to the day after the intended release date, I could easily see there being a provision that stuff like that can't be shown for two years.

Welcome back! I assume it is a joke, but I do have to respect it if he either faked the figure pics for it (they look pretty real) or was just sitting on them for an unknown amount of time to eventually do an april fool's joke.

What are you disputing? Are you denying she had influence on the films? That Obi-Wan's death was her idea? I'll add that she cried after TPM because of how bad she thought it was, so to recap, we have: Fact 1: Marcia Lucas had major influence on the original trilogy and was the reason for major story decisions. She was involved in and the reason for major story decisions such as Obi-Wan's death and the subsequent basis for force ghosts through her referral that he serve as a "spirit guide" for Luke after his death. (Source: Literally the credits of ANH and ROTJ, the Icons Unearthed documentary series interview with Marcia herself- quotes include "I said, What if Darth Vader kills Obi-Wan Kenobi? And Obi-Wan Kenobi disintegrates while they're escaping?" and then in reference to the script having Obi-Wan talk Luke through the trench run over the comms "He can still say all that stuff he needs to say to Luke!". She also makes a large number of smaller but still impactful changes, such as making it so Luke only gets one pass at the trench run rather than trying a few times, changing the Obi-Wan's hut scenes to go lightsaber talk- leia message- go save leia instead of leia message- pause to show off lightsaber- go save leia. In addition, Mark Hamill himself stated in an interview "She was really the warmth and the heart of those films, a good person he could talk to, bounce ideas off of, who would tell him when he was wrong.”) Fact 2: Marcia Lucas thought the Phantom Menace was really bad. She had major issues with Phantom Menace. (Source: Howard Kazanjian: A Producer's life, in which Marcia Lucas states that after seeing TPM, "I remember going out to the parking lot, sitting in my car, and crying. I cried. I cried because I didn't think it was very good." (And then she goes on to complain about the CGI, the Anakin/Padme age gap and other common criticisms)) From this, the conclusion that the prequels would be somewhat different movies had she still been around seems pretty much inarguable, right? That's all fairly off topic, but don't come at me like I'm spouting some debunked concept. It's a pretty simple inference to make. Same. Which is part of why the 18+ oversaturation is a shame- there are a lot of good options, they're just putting out a flood of them, a number of which are subpar. I think we're already there. I know at the very least me and most of my friends who collect have skipped a number of 18+ sets we'd otherwise have bought just because we don't have the money/space. Yup- and here's the thing- I'm perfectly fine with all the May 4 sets being 18+. It's even part of my plan for how I think lego should be ordering waves. But when it's 90% of the may wave, half the January wave, and a chunk of the august wave....

I'm sure it'll be replaced by something else- we pretty consistently went Chima-Nexo Knights-Hidden Side-Vidyo-Dreamzz. I'd like to see another action theme with a more singular focus- dreamzz was cool but it felt very scattered at times, and fell victim to the now-classic "kids want the concept of gaming in physical toys", which... I dunno but when I was a kid video games were pretty popular and while I wanted lego sets based on universes that were from video games, I wasn't going around like "oh, man, if only Kai from Ninjago had a Nintendo Wii mech, that'd be cool". Something Castle based would be fun and a good way to stop lego from trying to "modernize" everything, maybe you do a more traditional/fantasy castle setting but give the main knights magic powers. Or do a system Bionicle Gen 3 or something.

Wouldn't actually mind a buildable grievous or Gonk, just... not with so many per year. AT-AT pilot helmet's already out. May is: Bo-katan and/or Jango helmets, Kylo helmet, Kylo's midi-scale shuttle, buildable chopper, etc. I agree, and I mean look, even just two each and up the amount of total sets a tiny bit is up to me. I know shelf space is an issue, but they're breaking into a new market- it's not like half the lego shelf used to be reserved for unrelated items for adults- the system shelf space has been taken up by these. Either get some more space, or keep more of the 18+ stuff D2C exclusive or in places like Barnes and Noble. Aside from the fact that it's widely reported how much influence his ex wife had- she was an editor, it's not like she was just hanging around the film set, and major story decisions such as Obi-Wan's death are attributed to her- it also just... is kind of intuitive? Like, obviously the guy was more reigned in when he was first making them then for the prequels when the original trilogy had been so immensely popular and had so much staying power. (And, of course... we can hear about his ideas for the sequels and how absolutely insane they are.)

It might be slightly more similar to an 1800s westerner with a Japanese culture obsession- isolationist civilization with a very different but just as technologically advanced society. Wim from Skeleton Crew I would say is more of a weeb, but even then the jedi were real, so he's more of like one of those kids who wants to be a cop or soldier or paramedic when they grow up. Welcome back, sir. You are absolutely correct, purple grass would have been much more in-line with the Aslume. No no he's got a point, green grass is horribly normal for the Aslume.

I can't believe you've only been around a little over a year, feels like you've been here for ages. The original three weren't, although Lucas's ex-wife was also a very important moderating influence on some of his crazier ideas. They also had nothing to lose for the franchise, since it didn't exist. The prequels, being the first star wars films in decades, were always a safe enough bet, and Lucas didn't have any moderating influences on them, leading to a lot of his more controversial ideas. (Not to mention his plans for the sequels... as much as I respect doubling down on an unpopular concept because of your faith in it, "they go ant-man and fight the midichlorians" is one of the few story ideas for the sequels I've heard that's inarguably worse than what we got.) Yes, TFA played it safe and focused on nostalgia, but it also wasn't terrible- most people I know consider it the best, or at least the least bad, sequel, compared to TLJ, which swung big with it's whole "subversion" thing and ended up incredibly controversial, or TROS, which tried to undo bits of TLJ while making some crazy moves of it's own and in the end left itself no one's favorite sequel. I have nothing against creative visions and making big moves, but as I believe you've said rather frequently, a lot of the disney era stuff hasn't worked, and this has damaged the franchise as a whole. Lucasfilm needs to build back goodwill with the general audience, and the general audience loves mando and grogu. In this case, it's better for them to play it safe for a bit, because at the moment their next big swing cannot afford to miss. Imagine if they'd made an Acolyte movie, how much that would have hurt the reputation of the franchise. I know, there'll probably be lists saying clearly false stuff like that we're getting Jedi Bob's starfighter, or an Evil millennium falcon, or wait, this'd be funny, that the entire next year is clones. (Jokes aside, how ridiculous- both intentionally and unintentionally- the theme has been is going to make it trickier to tell what's fake, so this is a good PSA for people to remember the date when they hear that we're getting a buildable Jar Jar tomorrow.) I was about to respond "well, it's just the Slave One and UCS sets tend to be closer to the vest", but no, there's all that 18+ stuff. I honestly couldn't care less at this point. The dioramas were the only ones I really collect, and while I got the Midi Falcon for christmas and think it's an excellent set, I don't really want to start a whole new collection of midi ships and I don't like that they're cutting into my system set slots.

He even put on a bow tie for the occasion. It truly shows how much he respects Soup that he'll come to a gala for his big lego set appearence. I will neither confirm nor deny that that's who it's meant to represent, nor whether or not it's Turtle. (I don't know anything more than the rest of you about it, but I have my own theory.) If you PM me an email address I can send you the part file, but at the same time I don't think it'd be all that hard to mockup from the image- it's not like the heart is the most complicated shape or the terrain has to be exactly the same