Captain Nemo

Yay Town! I'm happy to have survied through the game (Well until you know), which is a personal record for me! I was unsure of Kristal being a scum on the last day, so I was sure that if she turned up town I would have been night killed since I was the only other person the town block was looking at (Or a least said publically they were looking at). It was hard using my personality quirk, since writing like a redneck was both challenging and confusing for all involved, so I did eventually give up and just started writing normal after a few days. Great job hosting TrumpetKing!

Seems like Balthasar is going to be lynched. I personally feel he is town, which is more of a gut feeling (And I cannot prove anything), since I've not seen/felt him come off as scummy thus far, but, against my better judgement, I'll vote with the town block. Like Danyelle said, they have found out three scum already, so they do seem to know what they are doing; I just hope they are not missing fire today. Then tonight I hope I'm investigated so the town block can see my townieness and stop hounding me during the day; but of course, the best thing that could happen would be the this lynch is the last scum, and the town finishes off these monsters once and for all. Vote: Balthasar Jameson (Kristel)

So you can confirm that all 10 other players, other than myself and Balthasar, are 100% town? Would making a PR claim to a trusted townie mean talking to one of the 10 confirmed? I'm sorry but I only see two things from this; 1) that you are in fact correct and Balthasar is the last scum (Since I know for a fact that I am town), or 2) that you have not actually confirmed everyone, and you're jumping to conclusions. Is is one of these two possibilities?

Well if it's that important that it changed your vote, you should say something about it. I mean if it confirms that he is scum, it should be told to the public at large; otherwise the majority of public have no idea why you changed your vote. Obviously if it's a risk to PR's then theres a reason not to say the whole story, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't say anything.

You assume a bandwagon is going to start (On me?)? Why would you not vote; or are you waiting to join the bandwagon? Either way, I've not yet decided who I'll vote for, since there still is much time in the day, and I am looking at a few peoples. I'm looking closer at Romeo, since he hasn't said really anything today, other than a superhero name and asking for my suspicisions; just very inactive overall (See end of post). The same could be said for Eric today too--(My there seems to be a lot of inactive/missing people in this mafia), who only showed up to ensure us he's still alive. Amanda and Balthasar seem to be showing up on lists; I'm not too sure on the former, but I do have a gut kind of feeling that Balthasar is town (Don't know why, just have a feeling). I am suspicious of you, Ronald, however. You've got it out for me or something, and you seem to not want to read the posts I make, specifically the day two ones about my flip/flop britt vote, which I answered multiple times--yes I admit, I did flip/flop on day one--because it was day one; we knew almost nothing concreate. My thoughts on her changed as the day progressed and new converstations were added to the topic at hand. I seem to be haunted by my indecision on day one. I'm also obviously suspicious of Tybalt because of todays conversation between us. He does seem to want to place words in my mouth or at the least creating non-existant links; such as myself saying "I don't have too many suspicions right now" = "I don't have suspicions, so screw it I give up". He now feels that my attitude stifled analysis because I stated that I wanted to hear some night actions? Frainkly, he seems hella bent on pushing my buttons or lynching me. (Although see point C) --- A) I am not fixated on night actions. This is the problem I'm having with you; you take a statment of mine, such as myself saying "I think night actions are imporant and that it may be hard to catch the remaining scum during the day", and blow the statment up to say that "I only care about night actions". That is not true. B) No, I do not feel that I am above suspicion, no one is. I just find your consistant scrutinizing of myself scummy--you have other suspicions, with self admitedly little on them, but you chose not to pursue them? Why only me when you say I town tell multiple times? And I do apparently have little evidence of my town favor, at least in the concreate sense of things (Like an investigation result). But that's the burdon I must bear as a plain flavored townie. I have to talk to others to convince them of my in fact actual townieness; which is hard to do when people jump to conclusions on the words said about me, and not from me. C) Perhaps you consider me suspicious? I think we are at the point in our own conversation where you can confirm outright if you think I am scum or town (The latter being the correct answer). I can confirm that I do think you are town, and we are just two town arguing--which I've seen and been appart of in various mafias. But I also need to ask why you only test your theory on me? Why do you not follow up on other suspicions? --- Why did I "cast a suspicion" back on you? Because your first (of two posts today) post says two things; your superhero name and a question asking for my suspicions; without stating your own, or anthing else for that matter. So lets get the timing right; you ask me for my suspicions; I say I think you are suspicious for asking me without supplying any of your own thoughts to your empty post, and now you are suspicious of me for being suspicious of you? Ok... I am "casting a suspicion back at you" because you ask for the answers but don't want to contribute.

I'm lobbying for dependence upon night actions? Here is my very first post to show you what I said: From this statment you feel that I only care about night actions? Do I throw all logic out the window from this statment? Paris was on my radar from the begining--and frainkly like past lives I am suspicous of over over active townsmen, especially early on; that along with her rudeness and jumpy-ness upon people who attack/criticize her (Like Romeo did). Then the night investigation sealed the deal for me. Abraham was on the outs and never helping let alone talking--and then the CM spirit that was a monster-ish fig. Finally on this point, who said "screw it, I'm done" simply because I don't have a strong lead now. When did I say I give up? You seem to be making a habbit of putting words in my mouth. Again, I never said that we should only depend only on night actions. As for what's in front of them, I don't see how night actions would hinder that possibilty. A night action like an investigation prevents us from missing what is in front of us--it would allow us to see the scum in front of us like Paris. You're trying to get me suspicious of you? Seems to be working. I do consider people statements (And not just night actions), and back them up like right now. I've been helping the town, and helping vote of scum, I've had some contact with the core town, and my CM spirit helps show my towness to them. As for you manipulating the town, you seem to be filling the form with fluff like how to play higher level mafia but worst of all twisting my words like saying that I only want to use night actions. While the request was since cancelled, in all honesty I had just scrolled through the rules and missed that ammendment. Regardless, that does not seem like something that should be used to judge another when we are four days in (That's day one tactics). Problem is you seem to have already jumped on the wagon, heck you're diving it. You already seem to have made up your mind that I'm scum, and thats the end of it. Along with your jump to conclusions and changing my words to fit your statments, I'm inclined to belieave you are scum. Why else would a townsman jump on my comments and suspicions. Speaking of suspicions, I may not have too many (Though I've just gained one), but why are you jumping on me for not having any (Or many)? You however have not supplied any suspicions (Other then myself, though that was implied) today at all either? You cast a stone at me for not having suspicions when you yourself supply none?

Uh, what? Is this a summary of how to play mafia? I'm not discounting the importance of day play, I'm just saying that right now, I don't have enough suspicions on one person to say they are scum. The people I thought were scummy (Paris and Abraham) turned out scum--and were both lynched. I didn't see Carlisa turning out as scum, as I didn't suspect her to be one. Ergo, the people I thought were scum--turned out scum--and now I'm out of people I thought were scum--that doesn't mean I'm now lazy an useless. And I don't think the town is "missing right what is in front of them"; heck as you seem to know about PR's, a night investigation would only shed light on what is in front of them. Do you feel that we should not use night actions and focus only on the day game, because that's what's being implied here. And no I'm not a Lazy Boy; I feel that I'm active in trying to help the town (Moreso then you). And no I'm not a Manipulation Man--I'm not trying to manipulate the town into not doing anything or veering them in the wrong direction (Which you do seem to be doing). I also don't know where that statment came from in the first place; the Lazy/Manipulation seems tacked on the end of your summary (Which in regards to the PR also seems strange since many of the roles you state do not appear here, since by now we all know this is a "plain" mafia game--there sure as hell are no millers or insane cops here, or we would have seen something by now). To me, this whole fluff post seems like you are just jumping on the "point finger at Rocky" bandwagon, without any substance to your claim. Seems like a scum move to me. I may have a suspicion now. --- Yes, Amanda is describing the exact situation that Paris has created (Which seems like something she is experienced enough to pull off). The theory that Paris named two scum in hopes we would count them as town is flawed--because she named one scum; Abraham, and she named one town, Rocky, myself. Thus she hoped that if I was lynched first I'd come up as town (Which I would, because I am town), and we would forget Abraham; or (The current actual situation) Abraham was lynched first (And showed up scum--which did happen), the town would then lynch me, thinking I was also scum too--fthis is flawed, because I am not scum, I am town.

That is what Paris was doing. I am a town member 100%, and Paris and Abraham were 100% scum. We can see that Paris was willing to openly talk against other players who themselves were scum (In an attempt to put a distance between them), and we also know that she was willing to align herself, when about to get the axe, with another scum player (Abraham) in attempts to shoot down an actual town member (Ergo me). And, something important to notice, that Paris and I had problems before the Lawrance list--it wasn't until after that she started talking about Abraham--since both Abraham and herself were scum and both were on his list. I feel that she only started talking about Abraham because he too appeared on that scum filled list. To be honest, I don't have too many suspicions right now. We've gone through the Lawrance list and found two scum. The vig found another, and now we are down to a few scum (Hopefully one) and the need for night results are important--I think it will be hard to catch a scum during the day. I mean, if there is one left, it may be hard to find them since they would really be trying not to slip up. But, like always, there are people I look at; however it's mostly because of activity levels. I don't hear much from Eric, and actually you Romeo don't sit very well with me, and cannot place it right now, but you just seem a bit off to me.

Well it sucks that we lost two town, and unfortunately it appears our vig killed one on accident, but we did get another scum. I'm happy to have taken out another scum, but Abraham was notoriously quiet--so we really don't have any other leads from him. Maybe some town night action could shed some light on the scum.

Oh! Ok--yay for Nocturnus inactivity! (On a related note, sorry everyone for my own inactivity!) I don't need any prizes though, but thanks for the offer.

I think this is cool. I don't watch the Simpsons too much anymore, but I think it will be nice to get new figures and accessories. The buildings would be very nice too, and may introduce many new or rare colors. Plus, they'll blend well with standard yellow minifigures!

I agree it's best not to reveal the list if it puts our town PRs in danger, just make sure the town block knows the list so it doesn't turn out that the single person with the list is killed or something. Anyways that CM spirit does seem strange, if it is a false character choice, it may have been to avoid choosing a character of a townsman; and I do agree the character choice is very monster looking. I've not been so keen on Abraham so far, he doesn't want to contribute, and with him being on the Lawrance list, along with this strange CM character that seems out of place, I'll have to set my vote to: Vote: Abraham Petruzzi (Fred Daniel Yam) Lets hope to catch this scum, and another in the night again.

I have to agree with you on that. Abraham seems to contribue little and him being on Lawrance's list only makes him seem more like possible scum to me. On another topic, have others been approached and asked about their CM spirits? I have.

I would say because it looks like the previous Benvolio was about to be on the chopping block. Right now, I mostly agree with Melanie on the current situation of Benvolio--I feel if Benvolio was scum his buddies would have done something to make sure he doesn't fall off the face of the earth. So, right now, I don't think he's the best person to lynch--lets see if the "new" Benvolio can convince us he is town; we don't need to jump on a bandwagon to kill the man for his past mans actions (If that makes any sense).

The Terrible Trio The Wolf (Fox), the Crow (Vulture), and the Shark

Hot damn we done wrangled two gators! Sure we lost a chicken, but the rest of the coop is still alive, and these done monsters be down two heads. I'm not too sure on who is gator looking now, but hopefully we done get some information from our investigator today so we can lynch them right. Karen .0 Analyzing, Analyzing, Analyzing: "Great job! We nabbed two Monsters last night, and while we lost Alicia we at least know that the investigator is getting things right and can be trusted (Know we just need another trusted person to be able to tell the masses of town the results--since Alicia was killed). I'm not too sure who we should look at now though. Abraham is a possible scum to me since he was on the same list with Paris (However Melaine is cop claimed town so I'm not sure about Abraham). Also Benvolio is scummy to me, since he seems to be slipping by without adding anything--I have similar thoughts on him to what Margret said earlier. Hopefully today we can get some more evidence from the night to find more scum."

Wait, wait, wait. Let me say one thing first: No, you are not at all like Graham! He catches SK's, and there's no independants in this game! Also he's not rude; say megablock off in greater Baltaimore area and chances are you'll get eaten wih some fava beans and a nice chianti. #Fannibal --- Anywho, I've been able to read these new events all day, but I'm finally able to post my thoughts on them (Don't like to post via phone). I do think, that with this new cop information, that Paris is for sure a scum member. The suspicions I had of her previously seem to be confirmed with this new cop info. Hopefully we'll nab her as a scum and we can trust the cop. So, in short I guess, it's time to start knocking down scum: Vote: Paris Shawty (Tamamono)

In the begining I was unsure of her, there were times I thought she was town and clearly at the end I thought she was scum. The quote you pointed out too shows my opinion change on her from town to scum (Following your bold section where I say) "but my opinion on her changed as she done changed her reasons for her stupid mouth talks" Anyways, we may be taking it a bit far, I agree with that, but when death is on the line--nothing is too far! Changing subjects: My message from Lawrence came to me at 1:50 AM last night, so I assume like the other ones it was 11 hours or so before the day started (Me no good at international time zones etc.).

Looking back at our replies yesterday, I see what you are getting at, and well I don't know what you have against me. The first comment on her alliegence, I stated that it (Her situation) could be just town vs town, and I stated that happens often early in games, and in fact that's happened to me many times. You take that comment and assume that because I thought it was that sort of situation, that I knew 100% she was town--which was not the case. I replied back, saying--no, I could not confirm she was either scum or town; bringing up the more important point (At the time) that I was talking about which was jumping to conclusions. You seem to be jumping to conclusions. I am town, and I, like many town made a mistake in voting out Britt, who was discovered upon death to be town--this happens almost all of the time in early game. I'm not sure why you seem to be pointing me out as the sole lyncher; and can only susspect it's because of my abitably flip flop stance--which I see as a correct response to the changing events of day one. At times I'd hear one thing and think one thing, other times I'd hear another and it would change my opinion. You (And everyone I suppose) need to be open to changing your mind when new information arrives. Her excuse of drunkeness changed my mind, but it veered it to the wrong direction. Why I am being besmirched by you continuously after having explained my vote (Unlike a great others thus far); is what pings my interest in you. After all, you seem to be working a great deal to mess me up, putting in far more effort than voting yesterday.

Lawrence didn't include an reasoning behind his three name list, so that makes it impossible to see his reason to point them out. I don't think the one night kill is that weird, since there's no independents=no serial killers. We may not have a town vig; but its also early in the game so who knows.

I wonder how many messages Lawrence gave out? The metagame kill may account for him knowing ahead of time with enough time to send messages--but I don't see the reason he'd be mod killed in the first place? I don't think he did anything D1 that caused him to be killed in such a way. On the Benviolio subject, I think he stated in the conformation thread that his drunkeness causes him to wander off and not be active (Or something like that)--though that doesn't make him 100% town or anything. Frainkly I'm suspicous of anyone who doesn't say a word or does not vote. There were a couple of people who said almost nothing yesterday, which doesn't help the town--so they better speak up! And finally, . I must have mistaken your words for Brittany--at least on the subject of the no lynch. I suppose my vote should have gone to you then. Regardless, Brittany's actualy flip flop actions and excuses did get myself and others to vote for her. Note to self, layoff the beer and learn to read better.

My opinion of Brittany did change through the day, as did her actions which changed by opinion. I did at first think she was town, stuck up in a messed up town on town violance that happens now and then (As is now, as I am town), and as you Roland noted my opinion of her chaned to more 50/50 as she began to flake and make up reasons for her stange "no lynch" idea. Secondly, as for this quote you just said: You clearly did not read what I said--I was speaking, in the quote you directly replied to here, that my opinion of her was changing, not that I think she is town. And your reference earlier to my saying I thought she was town was true at the time, until my opinion of her changed when she started getting weird with excuses. My reason for changing my opinion on her happened when she began making up reasons for her "no lynch" idea, blaming it on being drunk. I felt this sudden change to be perhaps that her scum friends had told her to quite down, making her scum, or that someone else in private told her to shut it. Either way, I felt her sudden change on her position that she had upheld for the previous entire time strange, thus shifting her to the scummy side of my radar scale. Her town turn up is unfortunate, but I felt that she was scummy and at the least hiding devious something from the town. So my bad I guess for voting for her, however remember there were others who voted for her too, with much less reasoning/posting. I only played a part in the lynch, and I did not put the noose directly on her neck--which if anything is possibly better then missing the vote because of lazyness. --- On a related note, I too was contacted by our departed Laurence, earlier this night, with the same message as you Ronald were given. It stated he seemed to know he was going to be killed that night, saying to me that he thought it was because of his past games experiences, as well as saying to be weary of Paris, Abraham, and Carlisa (The same list you were given). Something to think about, since he contacted multiple people apparently, and seemed to know he was going to be killed--which I feel is more alarming then contacting multiple people. -- Hopefully today we will hear more from those who didn't say anything/little yesterday, and why some people didn't vote at all (Two people I belive). Karen .0 Online Analyzing, Analyzing, Analyzing: Does not Compute

Well the moon is coming up and I’m running out of booze and patience. I ain’t be really confident in any of my scum tells so far, but there’s people who don’t sit with me right. I was more thinking that the situation with Britteny was just a town mess up, but my opinion on her changed as she done changed her reasons for her stupid mouth talks. There were problems with Melanie in the morn, but to me I think that was more of a town mess up with misunderstanding, so she’s not the townieness person to me, but I ain’t ready to noose er yet. While Britteny will be done getting my vote today, I also think there’s some other peoples to be lookin after. Paris don’t seem to sit well with me. She done seem to throw a hissy fit at people and get hugely defensive and rude when people ask her things or done question her allegiance. I ain’t ready to vote for her, but that gender confused man’s done pinged my attention. Vote: Brittney Alfredo (PirateDave84) Karen .0 Online Analyzing, Analyzing, Analyzing: “Well there’s only a few hours left, and it’s time to place my vote before it’s too late to. I’m not really confident in my scum suspects thus far, and frainly that’s not too surprising for day one, but I am now not so sure as I was previously with the alliegence of Britteny. Her switch-a-roo with her statements make me suspicious; since a townsperson should stick to their stories, lest they look like they’ve been silenced by their scum brothers. I’m not sure on the whole Melanie thing, but in my gut I feel it’s more of a town vs town problem, where infighting is getting the best of us; she’s still on my radar, but not on my vote today. I’ll be casting my vote for Britteny, but in the meantime I’m also not so sure on Paris. Personally I can see how scum could fake as active townies, but I also see who active townies can be seen as scum; however her rudeness and defensiveness does not sit well with me either way. She seems to explode on people who question her, and she uses her activeness as a shield to show she’s town—she doesn’t sit well with me thus far.”

I think you've been sleeping too much boy! I ain't never called her town, and really me main point was just (As ye said) was that we should not jump to conclusions; I was only pointing out that from what I know so far, I cannot call her town nor scum; and I would liken to say I don't think that I am pointing out that she is scum or town, but more importantly just trying to make sure everyone is keeing a level head and not bandwaggoning on one suspicous statement.

Well there be some crazy woman talk going on here, but not much being reviled, as to be expected on the first day of a gator hunt. I ain’t got no problem with people so fer, but there be some alarmin scum-liken-behavior, but I also see random pointin of fingers. However, there’ ain’t no indication as of now which done persons deserve my vote, since we are stuck in the early days emptiness. Karen .0 Online Analyzing, Analyzing, Analyzing: Redneck Translation in Progress: “Well there’s lots of talk so far, but not surprising for day one it’s mostly roleplaying and little concrete progress. Currently, I don’t have someone I feel is really scummy, mostly only people with scum like behavior such as Britt. However with her situation, I feel it’s more of a situation of a council person looking scummy, with other council people jumping on wagon declaring them scum without a thought. Chances are that’s what it is, since usually day one lynches a council person on the assumption they’re scum; unfortunate but it happens most of the time. Regardless, I think in all situations on day one, we should not jump to conclusions; the day is still young after all. I’m not ready to vote yet, but I’m starting to make a list in my head of those who seem a bit “off” to me." End Translation. What the hell Karen! You done call that a Translation?! Stop puttin words up in my mouth!