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Thanks!!! Eeeeeeh...yes.I know it's not nice to speak about money ...but I was just searching on Bricklink and the other site with the bay inside its name...all in all, not including shippings...it's quite a loan!

That small caboose seems the KISO forest railway one (the locomotive in background is very similar to the KATO 7ton). I know this railroad since there are a lot of "Critters" I was looking at for my G-scale garden railway. https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10346819/70/2 The caboose is a great choice, since it's small, cute, nice, lovely....and so on The Massey Ferguson tractor converted to rail operation it's pure genious, but let me say that the blue toilet on wheels is on another planet!!!

I was sure to have seen this locomotive somewhere years ago , maybe in a Marklin's catalogue. It was buried in my memory until I searched again for pictures! I have to be sincere, the fact I already had the BR78 chassis ready in Stud.io was a great start. Then, it rained for two days, and I had some time to draw it. I truly don't know if it will be built. Big wheels and small black windows are quite pricey. But it's really an original piece of machinery and could be nice to have it in the collection

Thanks! It's very appreciated! I wish you too a good luck in the OcTRAINber contest!!! Davide

Hi all, always starting from this inspiring discussion... ... @Reker1000000 introduced me to a very particular locomotive: "DB V3201 seems like it would be an interesting starting point for a locomotive to model in 12v style with the red motor..." The locomotive we're speaking about is the DRG V3201, one of the first experiments to upgrade from steam to Diesel engines. In this case, Diesel motors were available , but problem was related to transmitting their power to the wheels. Gears were too weak, Hydraulic transimission was still in development...so the idea was to replace steam with compressed air, therefore maintaining the "old" transmission system (including distribution) used by steamers. In short, it worked this way: DIESEL ENGINE --> COMPRESSOR --> RESERVOIR -->CYLINDERS --> COUPLING RODS --> WHEELS More or less what is seen in some Pneumatic locomotives made in Lego (great stuff!) with electric motors. Well, seems great, but there were many problems related to the heating of compressed air, its cooling (!) and cylinders lubrication - all for maintaining its efficiency. Here's an interesting link! http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/diesair/diesair.htm All in all - a very complex hybrid system, with many gaps to be solved with engineering "patches". But it's a cool locomotive and making it in 12v style could really be a challenging task. First of all, it's the most asymmetric thing I've ever seen , second - it's a very tormented design - which cannot be captured fully in 12v style, due to lack of parts at the time. It's however a very peculiar locomotive (depicted also in a postal stamp!!!) and it's worth to be tried. Here it is, just out of the shed , helped by a small V60. In reality, this event could not happen, since the V3201 was scrapped many years before the launch of the little shunter, but since we can do whatever we like with our fantasy, I was more optimistic and imagined a restored V3201 ready for some hystorical train! The V3201 is based on the chassis of a BR78, which - luckily - is one of the 12v locomotives I've already tried to create. Therefore, chassis was already prepared and only needed to be adapted to the longer body. This big beast has a quite boxy body, which seems to be made soldering together some parts of cabins, cut from steam locomotives. The central part of the body is sticking a bit out from the overall shape, and this is due to the big submarine diesel and air reservoirs. The main charachteristics are the two big gray radiators, the small windows on the corridor side, and those big stairs. Stairs were a nice thing to replicate, even if these are not the same as in the prototype. I did not use the big train doors, since these did not allow me to recreate the stairs and handrails. In the real thing, the stairs go over the cylinders, so using the 12v standard ones was quite a mess. I replicated them with normal parts. and this was not a problem. I had however to "cut" the stairs in half, the upper one being fixed to the body, while the lower one being part of the bogie (and turning accordingly). With the 12v motor, this design needed to be somehow adapted. On a real 12v motor, the central hole can accept an half Technic pin. Using a normal Techic brick some plates and tiles solved the problem. The ladder is kept in place by the pin and "slides" together with the motor. Between the radiator and the cabin there's a small, virtually transparent door since it's made of a panel full of small holes. The body in reality should be 4-wide in that point. I tried fences, door fences, everything did not fit and SNOTting was quite impossible (for me at least), given the limited parts available. Even Marklin's model is solid in that point, so I concentrated more on having at least a grille pattern. Using the ladder part was not so nice, it was just confusing. I therefore tried the just seen @zephyr1934 technique (thanks to you and Katy!), to have some visible horizontal lines. I used 3794b parts (jumper) . It works also with normal plates, but this is way better. Doors features a possible, even if not used at the time, SNOT for the door hadle, using headlamps bricks. Here's a shot from above, showing the 7-wide central part of the locomotive. As you can see I played a lot with the jumpers parts. And here's the "blind side" of the locomotive there's not so much to say ,being pretty smooth! Apart big red wheels and red motor, 2x1x2 and 1x1x2 black windows are there, just to remember there's some 7730s and 7750s blood inside the veins of this "thing". Here is visible the big radiator... ...and here is visible the smaller one. Looking better at the central headlight you can see some "white stuff" between the bricks - it's the classic 12v light brick with the addition of a small diode. This old trick allows the headlight to be lighten up according to locomotive's direction. Radiator is made by 1x1 plates, trying to replicate the "pattern" of the real thing. I put here red lights in 7777 style, even if these should be white, according to prototype. A brief mention to the Shed - it's an old MOD - I do not sincerely remember if I already presented it here in Eurobricks. It's a 7777 build, converted to a more shed-looking thing. Since I like to replicate dioramas in 12v style, this could be a nice addition to the overall scene. I hope you like it! Thanks again to @Reker1000000 for his inspirational idea! Ciao, Davide

Good summary and presentation! I really think the red color is a very good choice and that side strip made in plates really makes the model...genuinely Lego. Great Job!!! Ciao! Davide

This is a great design, and the locomotive looks massive!!! I love the small rear ladder - it's quite ingenious! Ciao! Davide

Hi all! Being now the entry published on OcTRAINBER "Internal Combustion" topic - I can now insert it also here In addition, two videos showing the belt transmission and the really simple sound feature. https://www.flickr.com/photos/138174786@N04/51572413363/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/138174786@N04/51636128783/in/dateposted-public/ I add here the full size pictures of the locomotive and its tipper wagon: A view of its chassis: And the yellow mock-up , now dismantled since the official version is blue Other photos and WIP story are available here in EuroBricks on specific thread, and here, on Flickr's album: I hope you like it! Davide

Sorry - I forgot to thank you for the suggestion!

Excellent work - the shot between the real plants is just...right! Your "Katy" seems to have a spark of life, and I think it's the most difficult part of the prototype to be replicated!

Thank you very much!!! I was a lot lucky, I'd say - the CC motor is fantastic, and easy to power also using other electronic parts - 3.7v is perfect. The battery and the small, small,small power/charge circuit required a bit of soldering, but just fit in 4x2 studs. The twisted rubber band transmission is strangely quite efficient for small loads. I think it's due to the new silicone bands and to that 90 degrees twist, which keep them well wrapped around driver and driven axle. For the moment no slipping from the band , nor in the Blue Lok, nor in the 500 (both are quite light, after all). I know it's a curious way to transmit power, but it's nice and worth to be tested on small vehicles. Ciao! Davide

This is really complex , and the little cabin is full of tiny details! It's a very interesting and original prototype too. Ciao! Davide

Nice little things! There's also the nice 4,5v Locomotive of the Circus scene (that you already have) which could really be a nice shunter, even powered with current pickers from the 70s in a side line with a dedicated 12v Transformator set at 4,5V /5V. Nice idea. It's simple, straight and basic...but somehow nice, and makes for a good set with tipper wagons. I've to invest on a spare red and black motor to be shared on these little models - they are nice to see around from time to time! Christmas is coming!!!

Thanks , when the OcTRAINBER ends, we can prepare a good render! In the meantime, last parts for the Fiat 500 "Draisina" arrived, so I have now the "telephone mudguards". One plate higher, since the wheels were hitting the clips. There are some adjustments to electronics to be done (soldering on the switch simply decided to break). Draisine is complete now,and needs some work on stickers. The real one has a small yellow trailer - I think it will be a nice addon! That's all for the moment! Ciao, Davide

I love the yellow - gray one and I'd vote for it!

Hi there! Nice solution, surely more refined than mine!!! Ciao! Davide

Fantastic track!!! It's nice to see the 12v running! And that 7740 motor is surely healthy!!! Ciao! Davide

I've always asked myself what those cones were used for. They are everywhere in the book and always three at a time, like pyramids! Is it a COINCIDENCE? Noooo, I believe it's a good way to sell the 7730!!! ("Mommy I want hat one with the yellow cones!" "Oh dear, it's pricey, won't you like this one with blue and yellow wagons?") At page 11 you see the same car for sure, but where's that lady going? These are really mistery pages - the front part of that car is NEVER shown!!! Thanks sir! It could be interesting to build, even if it's so simple - just to complete the tipper wagons train, Pity for those windows, which are really not so cheap Ciao Emanuele!!! This Marklin model is indeed a nice H0 locomotive - it can be found for a relatively good price. I wanted to buy one, then I remembered my Piko track is not A/C!!! The 133 is a sweet locomotive!!!

Thanks Holger - good point at 100%. Looking better at the original photo directly on the in the book I spot better the light brick, and yes - it could be the classic 1x6 brick with light prisms (or a normal light brick, since this locomotive is a bit simplified). Thanks to your thread title this morning I wanted to go beyond the Lego model and see if there was a kind of prototype to follow. I refined my search on Google using german words "Werkslokomotive, dreiachsig, tenderlok" and I found this little Marklin Lokomotive (3090). Take a look! Indeed there are many similarities, in the locomotive itself, in the wagons and - all in all - in general purpose of the whole consist So I modified the "face" of our locomotive, and the identikit seems now more reasonable (and with 1x6 light brick!) I think it fits nicely. I kept the boiler simple, and added only something over it - to make it more like the Marklin's one. Ciao! Davide

Hi all, during a pleasant discussion in this thread... ...a very interesting question was raised by @SDLgo9 member: The 7777 idea book pages mentioned here are those three pages showing the blue matter (!) unloading station and the famous auto-unloading wagons. These wagons are pulled by an obscure locomotive, which is never fully depicted. In fact - the front view is missing, and there's no clear view of the boiler. I've NEVER taken care of it, nor analyzed it too much. It really seems a 7730-based locomotive, but simplified in some details. There's a strange combination of "simple look" and now overpriced rare parts. So maybe it's simple - but it is a wanted effect? Analyzing the whole scenery depicted in the book - it's not a place for a fancy locomotive. There's work to do - wagons are fully loaded and heavy, so that unloading station surely needs a workhorse. And these workhorse is powerful, maybe not so good looking, but simple and solid, ready for its everyday duty. Here's a rear view, similar to the one in the Idea Book: It's a long locomotive and it's not using the classic train base (like 7810). It's pretty boxy and looks heavy. I had to take the scans from Brickfactory and to modify the photos to see a bit better. But which parts were used of the body is pretty unknown to me. So, we have the 2x2x1 black windows on the rear part - being a 7730 derivate - there are also doors, and at this point, the 1x2x1 small black windows. But it seems (to me) that these are not facing towards the front, and instead are used as small side windows. Side reservoirs are big, so fitting the two weight bricks was not a problem. The smoke stack is visible and there's not so much to say - but the boiler...is not completely visible. I added a square steam dome just for completeness. There's an headlight on top of boiler, and it seems there are also two headlights on the "nose". They are not fully visible, for this reason I think these are not placed on the corners of the chassis. Let's try: Simple and straight - the boiler is not round, but goes down to the chassis, same "steering wheel" as in the 7730. Headlights are a bit more inwards. All in all it's a simplified 7730 nose. Then, a more "Narrow Gauge" look - always with 7730 parts: There could be more styles, just removing the front steering wheel part and playing with slope parts. Suggestions are welcome!!! Davide

The roof is very very nice and fits perfectly - the overall look is so smooth and refined!

FANTASTIC little tractor, and the small garden railway is excellent!

I fully agree. Indeed it's a work of synthesis and style. Simple? It can seem so. Not so much parts, but each one has a specific function, plus it must work well with the other parts and keep up the overall look. I missed the comment on display track - I firmly believe the "inner" track is a complementary part to this fantastic MOC, since it is historically correct and functionally needed by the locomotive. It makes the whole creation "complete". Ciao! Davide

Ciao! Nice thought! I was drawing yesterday something similar, but I was falling literally asleep and I kept it for today - the use of bars and liftarms is the same. Only one thing (just for prototyping's sake) - instead of a square, imagine more a pentagon shape for the diamond pantograph, since the lower bars do not share the same articulation point (they normally are connected to a substructure,which is then fixed to the roof). See you later!

Noooo problem at all - I was joking too! Don't worry of these things - there's no risk your sentence could be intended in the "wrong" way. Without your help the Fiat 500 would have been a static model (or a model running for only 2 meters before running out of batteries - button batteries were absolutely a wrong choice)! I love the way your E69 is progressing - It could be nice to do one thing at the end of the Octrainber , a good picture of both locomotives in diesel and electric version! We shared this thread from the beginning, let's close it with some style (damn, I've to build a pantograph!) Ciao! Davide