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PRESS RELEASE for LEGO 75222 - Betrayal at Cloud City Announcement
dvogon replied to WhiteFang's topic in LEGO Star Wars
Looking at the photos with more detail, I'm getting convinced that the idea of having just one deck isn't a good one. There are many small rooms that could be better placed in smaller decks up or down the main floor. It could lead to a more logical arrangement of rooms, like Leia's room at the top of the city and the trash room at the bottom. I realise looking at this set how good the Death Star design is. It has no cluttered rooms. Each section has a clearly separate room, with ease access to increase playability and scene display value. There is a central elevator to tie all together. The set is equally rounded no matter from what point of view it's seen, and every angle is a good one. In this set the landing pad just break the rounded structure. The freezing chamber/bridge room doesn't help neither. Being taller with more decks means also more options to give depth to the set, which is something this set really lacks. It happens, for instance, with the broken bridge scene in the Death Star with Luke and Leia and the stormtroopers at different deck levels, which was greatly designed in the set. Here there is a similar deep scene with the duel of Darth Vader and Luke, but there is no place to fall down nor any way to get sucked by something below in the city. They missed the opportunity to recreate the iconic freezing chamber scene. The lack of the upper part of the freezing device and the stairs (as pointed out by others) are important for the depth of the scene. The stairs should run downwards (instead of upwards as in the Freezing Chamber set). It also should have a floor somewhere below. However in the CC set the chamber just float like the bridge in the scene close to it, giving a weird impression. That's another problem of mixing scenes in the same section. Can't wait to get it to mod it -
PRESS RELEASE for LEGO 75222 - Betrayal at Cloud City Announcement
dvogon replied to WhiteFang's topic in LEGO Star Wars
Damn! Two days out and now there is not only a CC teaser but the official images! Strange feelings... One one side at least we have an updated CC in lego from ESB, which is my favourite film, and it's a playset as I expected, so glad to see it now. The minifig selection is quite good as well. On the other side I feel they tried to do too many things with this set, albeit with not that many pieces. They made less errors than with Assault of Hoth set, though. A perfect set to mod I would say. I'll buy it for sure (how couldn't I?). My children (and me after modding it) will love it like the Death Star. But man, it seems somehow unfinished with so many parts devoted to unnecessary big (for the set) ships. I would prefer to have a decent system scale Slave I and cloud car sold apart, instead of mid scale ones in the set. Well... on the opposite side this fact could be seen as an excuse to build ourselves a mid-scale MF to land on the set. But seriously, a system scale Slave I and a cloud car would have more audience, specially for those that cannot afford (at least) €350 in the EU. And for those able to afford the CC set, for sure they could afford the system scale additional sets as well to complement it. The set is surprisingly flat, given how good the spherical Death star is to give a better feeling of the overall place. A lower deck would have given it a better CC shape. The upper part is ok IMO. About the rooms, there are some good, but other are lacking. Saving one-fourth of the available CC space for the landing pad is revealing. The rest of the rooms lack precious space and detail due to this design decision, and not for free. For instance, the big gray corridor has almost nothing in it. The window in the lightsaber duel scene deserves a printed window, specially for a set of this type, like the ones we got for the final duel and the room is too small for flying something with the force. The trash room with only an assassin droid is accurate, but lacks other broken droid stuff, another untaught and an incinerator. The freezing carbonite room lacks the upper part, which is essential to the accurate functionality of that thing. This is something that the Death Star did very well, as many rooms have ceilings, a luxury of having more parts for actual city stuff. Han Solo is excellent. At last dual-molded minifigs come into SW sets. This deserves a special cheers! However, I would have put this minifig in the UCS MF, where it's the actual undoubted star. The price is... how to say that?... in line with the new Death Star, given that at least this one has a new design that has to be paid for. -
Nice squadron collection! I didn't know that one of the squadron members was female.
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LEGO Star Wars 2018 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!
dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
Glad to see the Praetorian Guard battle pack, the more interesting one for me so far. Strange that there are no Rogue One or Han Solo sets there. Those films are (still) quite recent. -
LEGO Star Wars 2018 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!
dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
Oh! the Hoth Medical Chamber is €39,99 in Germany and even worse in other EU countries... -
LEGO Star Wars 2018 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!
dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
Thanks! And thanks to the reviewer as well! The set is well designed with a lot of detail, like the newer SW location-based €29,99 sets. It reminds me a lot to the new Jurassic Park set, although to me the last one is better and it has more playability with the dinosaur. The minifigs selection of the medical chamber and their update are also very good. The set is great as an expansion to the UCS Assault on Hoth set and even to the older Hoth Echo Base, which had the three minifigs and a small medical chamber. Playability lacks as a separate set, as only medical stuff with Luke could be done there. As part of a bigger set playability increases as there will be for sure other rebels to be taken care of in the medical chamber. I thought the medical chamber set would be a €29,99 set in the EU. If it's more expensive, that would be disappointing -
LEGO Star Wars 2018 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!
dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
I have seen the Imperial Landing Craft review. It's better in some ways, the ship seems to be more accurate in general but those laterals are just not good. The interior is also far worse than the previous version and the minifigs selection... yes those R2 and Ben should be stormtroopers. I don't own the previous set and it's great to have more Tatooine sets, so I'll pick up one and modify it using ideas from the old one. That's something great about Lego, you may always modify the set to your own taste Don't know if there is another review online of the actual set for the Hoth Medical Chamber, though. -
LEGO Star Wars 2018 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!
dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
Even more if compared with the Kessel Run MF... It's a great companion of the new UCS MF, so it might be available more time than usual. I believe that's the case already. -
LEGO Star Wars 2018 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!
dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
That's right. From where did come those Slave I rumors with the CC? A Slave I bigger than Microfighter scale would be too big. The same thing applies to the cloud car. It would be better to release System-scale versions of those vehicles as separate sets, leaving more parts for the Cloud City itself. They tried to put too many things in the Assault on Hoth set leaving a lame Echo base interior. The new medical chamber helps, but it should have been part of the set from the beginning, instead of the Wampa cave, which could have been a separate set. Let's see if this time TLG makes things better... -
LEGO Star Wars 2018 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!
dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
Thanks for the info! These are great news!! Having the Death Star at €500 with 4000 pieces gives around 12.5c per piece. So for a €350 SW set, an estimation could be 2800 pieces, or about 0.7 of a Death Star. If it has a similar design of a Death Star, and I see no reason why TLG would do another thing here, the Cloud City set could be wider than the Death Star but smaller in height at the same time, taking into account that the lower part of the set should be smaller than in the Death Star and the upper part more plane. So it wouldn't feel smaller in volume to the eyes than the death star, if it has a bigger equator circle. I have more or less the same feeling of @Terrasher With that pieces count, I guess it won't have an outside structure covering the whole thing, unless the set is significantly smaller, i.e. with an equator circle about the same of that of the Death Star. But I don't count on this... it would be a great surprise though. -
[MOC] SOLO : a Star Wars Story - "Feed him to the Beast"
dvogon replied to KevFett2011's topic in LEGO Star Wars
Very nice build and very good use of shadow troopers as Mimban troopers. Rocks texture is excelent. -
Wow! This is just amazing!!! I have no words... I have to see with great detail (and time) each photo. There are so many interesting build techniques there to learn of!
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dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
I live in Spain but I travel to Germany often. Both are Euro countries. Prices here and there have VAT applied only, nothing else. It's 21% in Spain and 19% in Germany. However, SW Lego prices have some pattern in Lego stores, not quite related to VAT, but somehow arbitrary or most probably related with targeted population in the country, I would say. For instance, battle packs and €29,99 sets are all priced the same. But the next price step is €39,99 in Germany but €44,99 in Spain. And the next one: €49,99 is €55,99. The pattern follows: €59,99 is €64,99 or €66,99; €69,99 is €76,99 or €79,99 and €79,99 is €85,99 or €89,99. From €89,99 we get €10 more always though. That happens with €89,99; €99,99; €109,99; €119,99; €129,99; €139,99 and €149,99. But not with the KR MF at €169,99, which is €174,99. And UCS sets are always priced the same. In hypermarkets like Alcampo, Carrefour and some others, prices are consistently about €20 or even €40 lower for the range above €79,99, because pricey sets don't sell well at Lego store prices. Smaller sets have either the same price or sometimes €5 to €10 less. This is during normal days without any discount. That may be related to the kind of population that go to those hypermarkets and never go to a Lego store (it must be the online one or the physical one in Madrid). However, this population slice is quite big in Spain and more representative of the average population. TRU prices start overpriced from €2 to €10 for small to medium sets. They have about the same prices at about €79,99. But it's easy to get 10% to 15% discounts on normal days without any store discount, so the same rules apply. The population slice is about the same but they earn a bit more on casual gifts with low to medium budgets. So here we have for lower budget people or gifts the same prices, for medium budget/gifts bigger prices hence they expect to have more sales in Spain, even if the country is less rich . For bigger budget/gifts they still expect to have more sales hence the bigger prices, but those sets get more aggressive discounts regularly in almost all non-Lego specific stores, which means they don't sell that well. This is why I think they are usually quite overpriced, even without taking into account the quality of the set or the price/piece ratio. UCS sets are a niche market, so it doesn't apply the same rules. -
Thanks to @MKJoshA for the organisation and congrats to the winners! It was very fun and a pleasure to participate. Quite nice and imaginative builds in this contest!
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LEGO Star Wars 2018 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!
dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
I would have nothing ever to complain neither . I usually get discounts in the range of 10% to 50%, with an average of 1/3, albeit I get better discounts on bigger sets. Exceptionally something more, like Kylo Ren's shuttle for around €45, Krennic's one for €40 and TFA MF for €60, but nothing compared to a Tie Striker for $17!! I was able to get two of them "just" for about €45 each. But the prices of some sets are just getting insane, the Defense of Crait set, the upcoming Snoke's Throne Room or the Imperial Covenyex Transport are some of them. Other sets just hit the spot, specially some of the €29,99 or less ones, like the Ahch-To set, Yoda's Hut, the Cloud Riders bikes or the new Anakin Jedi Starfighter. The X-Wing is also €10 more, which isn't good, because the recent X-Wings were already expensive, even if I would select it before the AT-Hauler, which is of course too expensive as well. And the price comparison between the UCS Slave 1 and the new Kessel Run MF has no words... -
LEGO Star Wars 2018 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!
dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
The Conveyex seems to be the most solid set, although having only one wagon is a bit disappointing. Range troopers are very good and they have white blasters. Two wagons would hit the spot. The wagons seem to be easy to replicate though so a good excuse to mod the set. The design is difficult and interesting. It would need four of them to have a minimal Conveyex complete set, with just four wagons and no rail. The cloud raiders speeders complement this set very well. The train is a bit small for the speeders, though, and also for the hauler, which seems to be huge compared to the train. Not particularly convinced about the hauler, although it has three good alien figures, which is the strongest point IMO. Don't know why Qi'ra is there... maybe a Solo's dream? Would the hauler carry an AT-ST from RO? That would be a good plus. -
LEGO Star Wars 2018 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!
dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
Strange (but somehow interesting) way to keep the perceptible shape of the ship using white plates and black plates for the actual base of the cockpit. It's a bit disappointing the interior of the ship and the gaps outside. The old one was way better, in addition to have 4 stormtroopers, which is something I cannot understand why it isn't the case now. In any case, the design is better than the old one in other ways, and it's great for children to get an Imperial landing craft now that we have got so many sets focused on Tatooine in the past years. So, even with its drawbacks, I would say it's a must buy for me, at least for my children to play with and as another (always good) excuse to modify it to make it more accurate . -
Took Han's speeder 30% off from TRU. This build has very good playability and it's a cheap way to get main characters. I'm actually liking these spin off films, they have room to dig deeper into the SW universe.
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Very nice build. Congrats! I like the decorations behind to put the Chess game in context
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dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
I had a similar feeling with the Hoth Medical Bay set. It really deserves to be in the UCS(?) Hoth set, instead of the Wampa cave, which could have been a very good separate add-on set with enough playability with Luke, a tauntaun and the Wampa. If there is some good logic behind the Hoth Medical Bay set I fail to grasp it. Its playability is close to zero. There is an injured Luke to put in the medical capsule and then resting on the bed with his sister hanging around. It isn't like Darth Vader Transformation set, even if this one is a very AFOL oriented set. In one hand there is an injured Anakin that gets transformed into a brand new Darth Vader with the Emperor supervision and both characters have plenty of usage in children games during all the OT time. On the other hand, we have Leia alone with a Hoth suit. The medical droid has more usage though. I see the Hoth Medical Bay set more as a patch of the UCS(?) Hoth set and a welcome after-thought addition. If that were the case I'll be more than happy, as it would be a form of recognising errors and a willing of fixing them, even after some time. But maybe this is too elaborated and your idea of delaying the medical bay set because of Leia minifig makes sense as well and it's simpler, which is always a good property of a theory. -
Thanks! The lower wins are fixed with technic lift arms to the main body and I wanted them to be as slim as possible, but keeping the texture of the ship in the game. The upper wins move freely with the thumb using the lift arms in between the engines. By default the wings are down and the lift arms up. You can push down the thumb to move the lift arms down and the wings will move up simultaneously. For the photos accuracy I had to put two black pins to keep the wings open with the lift arms down. In theory, those ships down the wings when landed but this isn't the case in the game, at least in those hangars. The landing pad wasn't that easy neither as it has diagonal lines I had to replicate with lego pieces. However, I couldn't find any cockpit piece that fits with the Mark VI ship, so I had to use a compromise. I took a piece from the Final Duel set (75093). BTW, that T65 X-Wing is just great and more accurate than the upcoming X-Wing set!
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dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
The three minifigs are really nice for a set of this size and the speeders have a lot of detail. Hope it will be in the ($/€) 30 range. -
Here is my entry:
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Hello all. My entry is from Star Wars - The Old Republic video game. I have spent endless hours with this game and I thought it would be a good choice for my scene. The scene shows a Sith Assassin player with his Companion in the Imperial Fleet hangars in front of a Mark VI Sith starfighter. I really like the design of this ship and now I got a good excuse to try to build one in Lego . It was a bit challenging as the wings have to be strong enough to hold the whole ship, albeit with a slim design, specially the connections from the main body to the wings. The upper wings may be opened or closed dynamically, controlled by a small technic mechanism behind. Additional pictures:
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dvogon replied to MKJoshA's topic in LEGO Star Wars
Yep, that's weird. As you said, the mine worker would be a much better choice. It's a shame it doesn't have a helmet, although it may be grabbed from the rebel minifig of the U-Wing set.