shadow_elenter

If you're running circles around me, wouldn't it be more likely that you would accidentally run into a pit? But seriously: Thank you for that compliment, and everyone els for all the kind words. I've been on this forum for a very short time, but I really like it here! All that creativity and inspiration bouncing of the pages and of course people who understand the struggles of building something like this. A while back a relative asked how long it took me to build the terraformer (THIS MOC) and when I told him "4 weeks" he said, "no way, it took THAT long?! it's a child's toy!"... I guess most of you know that feeling. There's truly a LOT of building hours in this MOC and I had to overcome many technical difficulties so I really appreciate it when people realizing that speek kindly of my creation, so THANK YOU!

I just got acces to a PC (I'm on the road) and decided to show you guys the footage of me testing it's maneuverability with just 3 wheels, it's (turning) speed and push capability's using the high gears to prove what I claimed earlier:

I love the complexity of the model, and the amount of motors used, but why did you choose this drive system in a battle bot? now, say you lift someone... then what? does it have enough power to push?

battery's are technically a 3e party item since they're not made by lego, made of string, rubber bands, or hoses. The only reason battery's are allowed is because they have the vital function of powering everything. If you take away the vital function of powering PF parts you also take away the only thing that gave it reason to be allowed, making it just a 3e party part regardless of the container you put them in. But that's my opinion, so unless someone takes offence and you are approached by an admin teling you otherwise(I hope they will not do so) you did nothing wrong. So let's call it miscommunication, and a different opinion in weather or not the container is relevant and move on.

I don't want to make a big deal out of it, weather it's allowed or not is for the admins to decide. Don't get me wrong, you stated that you intended to use filled up battery boxes purely as weights on 29-03 in your topic (I noticed then, but I'm a live and let live kinda guy). No one objected, and now so close to the end of the contest I think it would be unkind if you were force to take out the battery's and re-shoot your video because that would take all the fun out of this contest for you. What I do think is weird is you using battery's for purposes they really aren't meant for(adding weight), and condemning a fellow builder for wanting to do the same. Luckely aventador2004 stated he will not use battery's in that way, so I'd say the issue is resolved and everyone can go on and enjoy this awesome contest.

The rules say no 3e party part except rubber bands strings and hoses. AA battery's would technically not be allowed then, but because LEGO does not make battery's and bots can not go without them (exept for those expensive rechargable boxes)an unspoken exception is in effect. When one uses battery's for weight purposes only and not for powering the bot that is in my opinion(and probably a lot of others) illegal use of 3e party parts, but no one is making problems about your entry (yet) so I think you don't have the luxury of criticizing someone els in this matter... maybe leave that to the admins?, they're quite wise! Example : a wise admin once said:

Another bot would have to lift the whole thing off the ground for it to lose traction, that would be quite a challenge considering it's weight and size. Son of amnich is not ungrabbable, if the round starts and you don't allow it time to get his spinner up to speed it will be very vulnerable to garbing and pushing around since once it's stopped spinning it will be really hard for him to get it's spinner back up to speed. The wheels are attached using the friction of 3 pins and the gear on it's axle, to get it off you need to pull it straight off with quite some force in the direction of the axle and hold the bot while doing this so that's not very likely to happen. Should it happen anyway it would be still reasonably mobile since it's an all wheel drive design (I tested it with just 3 wheels and I made a video of this too, but I decided not to use it because the entry video was getting waaaaay to long) That being said, I do agree with you. This design is very strong and counters a whole lot, but no design is capable of fully counter all possible enemy designs, so to say it counters every other bot type is incorrect. A friend pointed out I never show "it's guts" and he was not wrong, so allow me to correct this: Wire management was hell, I strongly underestimated how much space this would take up (lesson learned), but I managed in the end.

Nice design, very compact. The connections all look sturdy and reinforced (except for the IR receivers. maybe jou could reinforce those using the front holes?) The charging wire is very exposed, is there any way you could make that less vulnerable?

Blacktron is before my time, but that never stopt me from liking it. I owned one set as a child witch I got from an older cousin after he got "to old for it". I remember after getting it I instantly started building MOC's that matched it's looks. Nowadays, my focus is mostly on complex studless technic MOC's and it's hard to get an authentic Blacktron look with very limited studded style parts.

I would seriously love it if LEGO launched one of those! Very useful in tight spots.

I LOVE IT! Total anarchy, it's all over the place! It might not do so well on the "likeness to win" criteria, but man... that thing is pure anger! just ... WOW PS: you might want to have that thing tested, it looks a little mentally unstable

mooi ding man! Ik deel je voorliefde voor het zwart-geel kleuren schema

It's done! I've just posted it in the entry topic! In this topic, I shall give you guy's more info than I could in the entry topic. Thus build features 4 SBricks (2 of them SBrick plus) 6 L-motor, 5 XL-motor, 2 servo motors, 2 wedo proximity sensors and 4 PF lights. I designed my bot to be able to compete in real life against other LEGO bots, In real battle-bots a ram like this would not be as effectieve, but since all LEGO bots have individual pieces that make up armour and might have weak spots or vulnerable weapons I decided that a ram is very effective! The ram is rubber band powered, it's pulled back with 2 L-motors, and released with 2 servo's. I created a sequence in the SBrick profile designer that releases the ram , and after half a second it turns the tensioning motors for a specific number of seconds to wind up for the next release. The 3 missiles that can be fired with the first smash started out as a joke but ended up surprising me since it shoots further and harder than the LEGO technic canon! In case the ram is not as effectieve against a specific enemy there's a set of very strong crushing jaws on the other side for ripping off parts or grabbing an enemy to push him into the arena pitt or have some other arena based weapon destroy him. The jaws are powered by 2 PF L motors that work together to extend 4 large linear actuators and give it quite some grabbing force! The tilt function of the jaws is mainly for getting it to fit inside the 45x45x45 limit, but it's strong enough to push the bot out of tight spots should it ever get stuck. It's a very big bot, and heavy too(4.1 KG), this is part of the defensive strategy, no one pushes this beast around, it pushes YOU! As seen in the video it can push 9 KG around, that's more than enough I'd say . I also build it so the body is completely in between the wheels, so if you do manage to flip it over... well, it just doesn't care! All wheels are driven by their own PF XL motor thru a steering portal axle housing, this gives the bot the ability to choose a gear set before the battle to quickly adapt to the enemy at hand. For small and fast enemies the high speed gears will give you the required speed, and for larger enemies the low speed gears will give you all the torque you need, and the middle speed gears for everything in between. The sides are actively protected with 16 sawing and crushing spinning blades that turn on when anything gets close! this is done using a proximity sensor on each side in combination with an SBrick plus. I reinforced the structure all the way around and used all holes in all of the beams to make it extremely sturdy, Also everything is over-engineered to be able to survive battle damage! All wheels are individually powered, and even if it loses a wheel it's still mobile because it's an all wheel drive design. the ram is pulled back with 2 motors but can function with just one, the jaws pinching motion is also done with 2 motors but can function with one. So, even if you manage to tear off a wheel, disable a weapon or 2 and it will just keep attacking you. I also added 4 PF lights... because why not LOL All space inside the bot is utilized, I had a real hard time getting all the wires in good and connected properly. I ended up with a bot weighing 4.1 KG and being 43x43 L long and broad (height I didn't measure yet because it doesn't come close to the limits). At the end of this build I'm quite pleased with the result, I found a lot of obstacles to overcome because I usually don't build vehicles. This forced me to think inside the box (LOL) and come up with innovative solutions so I learned a lot. Also this was my first implementation of the SBrick plus and sensors in a MOC so it was nice to play with those little cubes and sensors. I hope you like what I build, If you have any questions let me know.

15. Meet maximum impact! CAT A (sbrick) Signature move: The Pulverizer It's a 4 wheel drive monster with a flip-over proof design. It was purposely built BIG, it's size and weight are part of it's defensive strategy. It can push all enemies around due to it's super strong drivetrain, it can push 9KG! It's surprisingly mobile for this size robot, it can turn on a dime. It's main weapon is a very strong ram, that can also fire 3 missiles! If that does not do the trick it also has a very strong set of jaws to tear off parts or grab, drag or push the enemy into an arena pitt. The sides are protected by 16 spinnig/crushing blades that are automatically activated when something gets close. Depending on the enemy's weight and speed, driving gear ratio's can be set up in 3 ways easily before battle to maximize combat efficiency! And, it's build like a tank as the torture test in the video will show, everything is over-engineered to be able to survive battle damage!All wheels are individually powered, so even if it loses a wheel it's still mobile because it's an all wheel drive design. the ram is pulled back with 2 motors but can function with just one, the jaws pinching motion is also done with 2 motors but can function with one.So, even if you manage to tear off a wheel(unlikely), disable a weapon or 2 and it will just keep attacking you. It even has lighting...because why not?! LOL It features 4 SBricks (2 of them SBrick plus) 6 L-motor, 5 XL-motor, 2 servo motors, 2 wedo proximity sensors and 4 PF lights. CLICK HERE for extensive information and the build log Sorry for the long video, it's just a lot to cover I hope you guy's like it!

Hello builders! Another update: Side mounted weapons anyone?! As I promised @Erik Leppen, I utilized the space inside the bot. The rest will be filed up with strengthening structures, SBricks and wiring. It started out as a "well... I can, so why not" idea but it has worked out much better than hoped! The blades spin at a very reasonable speed and they'r more powerful than you'd expect. I've still got some thing's up my sleeve but I'm not quite sure I can implement all I intend within the contest time frame so I might have to abandon some ideas(I should have started earlier). Hope you like it!

I agree, I love compact builds. Trust me, that space will be filled properly ;-) 4 studs... exactly enough for an SBrick ;-) The size is also part of the defensive strategy. But thank you for sharing your thoughts, nice to see how they align with my own.

interesting response, it goes to show how we all think differently. This contest has just stolen the idea from the TV show, the rules of such a contest are not well suited for a LEGO contest so instead the contest makers decided upon there own. Now I do have opinions about the 45x45x45 rule and think some other rules might have made this more fair, but also more complex. Fact is that LEGO battle-bots DOES have a 45x45x45 rule so we need to abide to that rule. Fact is also that there is no weight limitation. Anyone is allowed to build heavy, if they don't that's there choise and it comes with a lot of benefits. If I choose to build a heavy bot,with all the limitations that it brings, I should not be punished later on by being imagined to 1KG. Making a spinner bot is a choice that comes with the consequence that you need to scale down a bit, imagining them to the same size would give them an unfair advantage, they chose for that design and that includes the limitations that it has. Scaling to 1KG would give some designs an unfair advantage too. If that rule was there at the start of the contest I would have built something different entirely, so that's not a good solution either. At the end of the day the contest is to make a BOT that is as good as you can build/ imagine it within the set limitations (and possibilities). You should imagine them as they are But then in a LEGO battle bots arena This is LEGO battle-bots, so I built my MOC to attack and destroy a LEGO version of such bots Personally, I think a lot of design works great in real life battle-bots but works far less well in LEGO due to various limitations. My approach is making something EXTREMELY hard to be destroyed by anything made by LEGO within the contest regulations, and weaponizing that. The ram wouldn't work well in real life, however in LEGO battle-bots It's likely very effectieve against some opponents since there's no 1-piece outer shell in LEGO , and that's why I built it. The jaws are surprisingly strong, and any LEGO bot caught in it will have a hard time escaping(size might still be changed, good point, thank you!!). In this matter the weight of my bot is an advantage, since most light bots wont be able to push me away. The sheer strength of my bot makes it so I can grab an opponent and push it into arena based weapons(after all they would fight in a LEGO battle-bot arena and all arena's have those) That's my view on the subject.

Hello builders! Time for another update: I finished the "ram side 85% too Up next is linking the 2 sides up using the next trick up my sleeve, position the battery boxes and SBricks and it's technically done! ...then comes the stage of finetuning and making slight adjustments before filming. I have a question for you: what do you think I need to improve upon in this design? am I going in the right direction to get your vote or am I still missing something? Let me know!

Hello builders! Time for another update: The "jaws" end Is 85% finished, it all worked as it should so I built the armor around it and I made it structurally extremely sturdy! the way it is now it can take a serious beating without any problems! All parts are secured firmly and with as much pins and axles as physically possible. I left some holes unused so I can put beams there to connect the "jaws side"and the"ram side" even better (current connection between the 2 sides is temporarily ans just for building purposes). Currently I'm wrestling with where to put the battery boxes and SBricks but I'll figure it out! The "ram side" has also gotten some more shape, although I'm not sure at all weather this will be the final shape or not. I widened the beast by 2L and lengthened it by 4L so right now it's only slightly less than the absolute maximum size of 45x45x45. This was done because I have som more trick's up my sleeve and I truly need all the space I can get... "When you can't build outside the box, make full use of whatever you can inside the box" Funny thing is The "jaws" have become so well build and distinctive, that optically it has become the front of the MOC, even though the "ram" Is more powerful/destructive and thus still the main weapon. I guess with this MOC, the weakness of the opponents build decides what the main weapon is. enjoy!

Does this answer your question? The progress I've made on "maximum impact" I improved the high power grabber on the back and mad it so it can tilt. This way it fits inside the 45x45x45 box in rest mode as required by the contest rules, but when the battle starts it folds out to the beast it is!

The plan right now is to release the ram with 2 servo motors, Icurrently own one so that slows things down a bit. for now Reloading is what it does in the video, pulling back does involve a lot of torque, that's why I use 2 L-motors both strongly geared to achieve this goal using four 40-teeth gears. However, this was tried using 1 battery pack running low on power so as long as the structural integrity allows it I will increase the stored energy even more. That being said, since I need a second PF servo motor to continue, I turned my attention to the butt of the beast: It will have a secondary weapon on its backside: a crushing vice of a beak! This is far from it's final form but will give you a good idea of what it will be. 2 L-motors will be manipulating 4 linear actuators to provide maximum "bite force", the Idea is to use this for crushing parts, ripping off parts or grabbing and pushing the opponent into arena based hazards like saws and hammers as seen on the tv show. in order to stay inside the 45x45x45 limits the "beak" on the back will be pivoted upwards in rest mode and will tilt down when the green light goes on... Also I tested out It's driving capability's and I was very impressed by the speed, power and maneuverability, even on a battery box that's running low! Right now I just joined the front and rear sections together to get a feel for how much room is left in between the sections for controls and battery boxes so this is still very likely to change. That's it for now :)

That thing looks great! Making walkers is always a challenge, but making one that is aesthetically pleasing is even harder! Nice colours too ;-)

Shortening it is not doable without making it very ugly, that's why I decided to just leave it like this. Unfortunately, the PF-M motor housing was to small for the electromagnet... That was my initial intention. True, are there any technic part's that do have metal in them that I could make it interact with? the only one that I know is the steel crane hook, and that's not very useful... The electromagnet was rated for 0.5A... how long the battery will last... I don't know yet. There's indeed a lot of room behind it, and it could be moved back but I chose this for easier implementation in model.

This MOC is finished and has been posted in the entry topic. CLICK HERE to skip the build log and go directly to the finished MOC info Hello builders! I decided I'd give this contest a try,and I'll be building with SBrick's. Building process is not that far yet, but something already: The signature move of this build will be a high-power ram: It's going to be a 4 wheeler, it's ram is rubber band propelled and quite powerful! The ram will not be it's only feature though. I hope you like it

I made a video about the laser so I thought i'd add it to this topic too: EDIT: sorry, I placed the video in the opening post for viewers convenience, should have done that in the first place!