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Well yeah, sure, but my point is that we're no longer getting buildable figures sold as action figures. They're now parts of sets, representing bigger-than-human characters, such as Surtur, Giant-Man, or even (maybe) Galactus.

Touché. Still, at least for now, the line is in a limbo.

It's not, you just didn't understand what I was saying. I'm not saying dinosaurs aren't the "main starts" the sets—they obviously are, and that's why most people buy those sets. I literally explained it in the first paragraph of my reply: There's a difference between being the main draw of a set, and the main part of a set. They aren't the "core" of the set, if you will. The most substantial part where all the pieces are put into. My point was that when the designing the sets, you don't focus on the dinosaurs—they are just recolours and reprints, sometimes with new moulds. They are action figures, not builds, which means they have to be accomplished by actual builds to make an actual set. With How to Train Your Dragon, once again, the dragons have to be the core of the set. You can't make vehicles, and the locations aren't diverse enough to warrant waves of sets. Not to mention that some dragons are quite huge—they wouldn't make moulds for those.

Simply because we aren't getting any next year. At least not in the first half. If we don't get any in the second one, it's safe to say they won't make any more of them.

I'm pretty sure the reason they aren't continuing this line next year is because they aren't selling as well. We have to remember that the Captain America figure was supposed to come out months ago, along with the No Way Home ones. It's coming out now because the movie was delayed.

Made a list of sets I could see us getting for the first movie. Included all named characters and dragons, even vikings who barely appear on-screen. • 20€ set with a net-shooter and a bit of land with a sheep; includes Meatlug with Fishlegs and Gobber • 30€ set with some land, water and a stick to draw with; includes Toothless (no saddle, brown fin) with Hiccup and Astrid • 60€ set with the viking longship; includes Stormfly with Astrid, Hiccup, Stoick, and Spitelout • 70€ set with a buildable Toothless (in the display model style) and a data plate • 80€ set with a part of the Dragon Academy arena; includes Barf and Belch and a moulded Terrible Terror with Ruffnut, Tuffnut, Astrid, and Gobber • 110€ set with the Haddock house; includes Hookfang with Snotlout, Hiccup, Gothi, Ack, and Hoark • 150€ set with a catapult; includes Toothless (saddle, red fin) and the Red Death with Hiccup, Stoick, Fishlegs, Snotlout, Phlegma, and Starkard I feel like that's the most you can get out of this movie, and even then I'm not sure if LEGO would make sets as big as the Red Death for this theme, seeing how the dragon would have to be as massive as the recent Source Dragon of Motion from Ninjago to keep it in scale with all the others.

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Right? In the past few years I feel like I'm constantly crossing those off the list—Horizon, James Bond, Fast & Furious, Up, Dungeons & Dragons, Lilo & Stitch (more than just a minifigure), Spider-Verse, and now How to Train Your Dragon. (Plus more Andor, and Superman making a comeback.) Unfortunately, I have a few themes/sets on there we'll probably never get—like Alien (I'd literally kill for this) and some others, mainly based on 18+ video games. At this point Planet of the Apes is quite possibly the only one I'm truly hoping for that has a chance of getting made.

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I honestly think that LEGO always looks at licenses from a multiple-wave perspective. Even if we don't always get another one (e.g. Indiana Jones), they always plan ahead to make sure they can maintain the there's longevity. Which is to say, I think the animated sets are somehow more likely—mostly because they give the opportunity to use the second and third movie, which are the ones that actually introduced most of the random, barely-on-screen dragons to those movies. Still though, all of it is just speculation. I really hope we hear something more soon enough, because I'll go insane otherwise. Truly excited to see anything they cook up anyway, animated-based or not. This has been on my list of most-wanted LEGO themes, so that's another to cross off that list.

Noooo!!! The Turtle has been slain once again. What a sad day to be alive.

It's also worth mentioning that the first movie doesn't actually have a lot of dragon species appearing on-screen. There's actually only six distinct, named dragons: 1. Toothless (Hiccup) 2. Stormfly (Astrid) 3. Meatlug (Fishlegs) 4. Hookfang (Snotlout) 5. Barf and Belch (Ruffnut and Tuffnut) 6. Red Death Apart from that, there's only one other dragon species—Terrible Terror, the small goofy dragon which would be a small mould anyway (like Riyu from Ninjago). So the way I see it, there's no way to make more than six sets based on the first movie. So it all comes down to whether LEGO just wants to make a moderately-sized wave for the movie and stop there, or turn this into a theme with more waves. Because to do so, using the animated trilogy is crucial.

There's a difference between being the main draw of a set, and the main part of a set. Sure, people buy those sets for the dinosaurs—but they're not the main build of the set. The sets are focused on combining vehicles and (occasionally) locations full of play features with dinosaurs and minifigures. That works well, because (as you've mentioned) a lot of the dinosaurs are really small, so not only would they look rough, they also wouldn't support a whole range of sets. If you make moulded ones, you can repeat them across waves (which is exactly what Jurassic World is doing) while focusing on making new builds. How to Train Your Dragon can't do that. There are no vehicles (except for a boat), and the main location isn't diverse enough to support a whole wave of substantial, play feature driven builds. Which means that the main part of the set has to be the dragon. Unlike Jurassic World, the main dragons don't repeat there (I mean, technically they do, but each species has a specific main dragon). Hence, each set will be unique and focus on a creature that won't be repeated in other sets. The sets have been cancelled months prior to its release date. It couldn't have been long into the process, because we haven't heard any details about the sets, and they obviously haven't started producing them. For Fantastic Beasts they did make a set, and then after seeing the reception to the movie decided not to pursue this part of the theme further. Of course, you're right about the second part—it's all up to Universal and what they're expecting. Do they want to promote only the new movie, or will they see it as a way to cash in on the previous movies again? We'll have to see.

They will be brickbuilt beyond the shadow of a doubt, because there are no vehicles in HtTYD. The reason dinosaurs are moulded in Jurassic World is because they can focus the builds on random vehicles for children to play along with the dinosaurs. The dinosaurs aren't the main part of the sets. In How to Train Your Dragon, you don't have that privilege. There's only so many wooden viking structures you can make, and it's not like they bring much play value to the dragon itself. Which means that dragons have to become the focus of the set—just like the ones in Ninjago. Not to mention that themes like Ninjago have shown that there's absolutely no need for barely-posable moulded creatures when the designer knows what they're doing. The dragons there look absolutely incredible, and with their sizes it'd be an awful choice to turn it into a Hasbro action figure instead of an actual build. Indiana Jones was supposed to have a wave for the new movie, it was just inexplicably cancelled (along with another set based on the second movie). It was supposed to follow the Avatar schedule—first a wave for the first movie(s), then a wave for the new one. But How to Train Your Dragon can't do that. It's either/or, in this case you can't have both. Either they make a single wave (or two, but there's not much you can do beyond that) based on the new movie, or they make a wave or more (or even a whole theme) based on the original ones. The reason being, you can't have the same dragons on the shelves at the same time (except for Toothless, the demand for him will be high—there's definitely a bigger version for collectors coming). It'd be pointless and confusing. Since the designs will likely be very similar to the original ones, it's not something you can avoid. The only other option I see is making a wave based on the original movie, with a single set based on the new one. (For example—you make a small set with Toothless, Hiccup, and Astrid with the pond for the remake, and include Toothless in a bigger set for the original one.) But that's extremely unlikely I think. So honestly, I think it could go either way. It all depends how LEGO views this theme, because if it's one-and-done, I don't see a reason for them to base it on the original ones.

The minifigures will be the main give-away. While the dragons and locations will definitely look very similar, some characters are played by differently looking actors. It's also much harder to make an actor look like their animated counterpart than it is to do the same with a CGI dragon or a historical(ish) location.

I think whether the sets are based on the upcoming movie or the original trilogy comes down to one thing—how LEGO perceives this as a theme with longevity. If they just want to make one wave to correspond with the movie's release and call it a day, then it's obvious that basing it on that same movie is the way to go. But if they want more waves? Well, there are three animated movies and one live-action one. If they think this theme will sell well and they'll want more waves, obviously it would be wiser to have much more material to choose from, adding variety to the theme. It's one or the other—they wouldn't put two nearly identical dragons on the shelves at the same time. So either we're getting a few live-action sets and LEGO sees how it'll go, or they start with the animated ones to make a whole range of sets across different waves.

Robin-Robin? Damian. A character who was at some point or currently is a Robin? Dick.

Remember that the pictures are preliminary. Minifigures may yet change.

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This might actually be the only live-action remake I'm excited for. I didn't care much at first, but the director of the movie (Dean DeBlois, who directed all the other movies) has talked about how he doesn't want to just make a direct remake, but try something different. I actually trust him, because (obviously enough) he views animation as not just a valid, but an equally worthy way of storytelling. He knows that the animated movie exists, and so he doesn't want to just copy it. Some quotes: The live-action 'HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON' remake will be its "own film, and its own interpretation." "It's like, let's not try and just do a play by play of that. If anyone wants that, they can watch the animated ones."

Really funny how we're getting leaked pictures for March and April sets already, while we don't even have the set names for the January Jurassic sets.

Well to be fair, box office works in mysterious ways, especially after COVID. There's no correlation between those two movies. The live-action one could be a huge success, depending on the marketing and execution.

I'm fine with the buildable figure, but the fact that the minifigures is also completely covered without an optional faceprint is... concerning. And sure, Mackie's face is on the box art, and most of the other toys feature his face, but I still really hate the fact that covering his face is an option. This should not be a thing with Sam's first solo movie.

I remember mentioning somewhere a few months ago that with the upcoming movie (and LEGO already having multiple partnerships with DreamWorks), it'd be more likely than ever for us to get sets for this franchise. And here we are! Not only is the first movie one of my favourite films ever, I absolutely love this franchise as a whole. I can cross another of my wanted LEGO themes off the list. Absolute can't wait to hear more. Hope we get a good amount of sets to cover all the dragons and characters. I'm going completely broke next year, it feels like. I also think this basically confirms we'll be getting Shrek 5 sets in 2026.

The new Hall of Armor has leaked. Two Iron Man armours, Iron Patriot, Pepper Potts (same old), and Aldrich Killian (shirtless).