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Thanks for letting me play TPRU!

I like it quite a bit. I wonder how the ice would look if you left the white cheese slopes at the bottom, but put some clear ones or some clear 1x1 tiles at the top by the fish as if they're slightly melting.

I won't be able to vote after this point either so I'll throw my vote in with the group to ensure we move forward with a lynch today. Vote: Stemid the Pale (Sandy) Personally, I don't have a strong preference between Stemid and Erik. Both of them to me are similar cases where there is a fair amount of doubt and also a reasonable case for unhelpful behavior. I would REALLY like to hear more from Wary as well, but it's too late in the day for me to actually case a vote his way. I think some of the concerns raised against him seem legitimate.

Thanks, Carl. I look forward to Erik's response. I'm confused as to how the case against Erik would impact your opinion of whether or not I'm lying. If you believe I'm lying, and the tone of your voice suggests you do, then you should lynch me regardless of what Erik says. Are you just waiting until a group direction can become clear so you can figure out where to fit in?

As I said earlier, the intention of bringing this forward to Dragmall was that I believed him to be trustworthy with this information, and that he was most likely to have additional information that might shed light on an explanation for this. If the watcher had targetted Bergulf and not gotten a woozy result or only seen me, I'd start to look for another explanation while understanding completely if the Einherjar decided to lynch me over it. The information I had was presented with the goal of resolving an issue where I felt I could be helpful. I picked out Gerrid because I saw something scummy in his behavior. That's what we're all trying to do. The last part of your concern here doesn't fit because I raised suspicion of Gerrid on Day 2, and the watcher situation arose on Night 2, afterwards. I actually think this is a rather important element of the situation. I would expect that if I was the only one targetting Bergulf, or if I had been targetted directly to get a disoriented result, that Ragnar would have gotten it correct immediately. It's why I think it's more likely Bergulf was framed rather than Hervi being tailored. I wouldn't expect a tailor or a framer to be more likely than the other for a group of scum, and I really wouldn't expect them to have both. You yourself suggested that the tailor might actually be the Prankster that Hervi referred to, and that would make sense in a framer context, too. Again, truth among the lies. I suspect that the reason my result was changed was that something distracted Ragnar from processing it properly. I was hoping someone might put the pieces together to find that third party. It is curious, but Bergulf himself was not a traditional investigator, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were other roles we're dealing with that also have a functional twist on the tradition. If you look back at what I told Dragmall, you'll see that I'm trying to get to the bottom of this question myself. Ultimately, I don't know the exact reason why I was unsuccessful. I wasn't told I was blocked, and Hephastus claims to have been blocked last night with no disorientation. I wouldn't expect protection to interfere with my result either, and I believe the people I've told would be aware of any protection on Bergulf that night. I believe the answer to our question will either point us to a scum, or shed some light on the way an Einherjar night action works. Personally, I think it's the former, and that's why I raised this issue. Fair enough, but it does make it hard for the rest of us to see the fruits of your labor. Do you have any leads to present?

If you're Einherjar, you need to pay more attention. It's in Hervi's Day 3 rant. There's some truth in there amid all the lies. The comment on the watcher targeting Bergulf is when he refers to the watcher as Mars seeing this Juno character. I targeted Bergulf with my inheritor action. Scum death rants are rarely 100% false as they're usually trying to cover for someone or something. I decided that since I had targeted Bergulf, it would be a good idea to try to see if there was more truth hidden there that might reveal another scum. If I was scum, I would be more likely to have claimed protector to be in line with Hervi's comments about his suspicions of Juno. I have no idea if I'm really Juno or not. The watcher seeing Juno seemed like a piece of information that Hervi would put in there as truth. I don't know if it is, and you deny it to be the case. Maybe you know maybe you don't. Anyway, if I was scum and thought that a watcher had seen me target Bergulf, I'd not bring my name to the forefront at this point. I'd wait and hope that there was enough confusion regarding that result to avoid suspicion. I'm not scum. I'm not afraid of putting my name out there in this way. I told you that my result came back similarly to Bergulf's result for night two and the protector's result for night one. I was initially told success, but later that was corrected by Ragnar himself to say that I was actually disoriented and merely thought I was successful. Given that Bergulf got the same mysterious result AND was wrong about his result on Hervi, it makes sense that my result was unsuccessful only if Bergulf had been tampered with rather than Hervi... OR if there are two mechanisms by which results are tampered with independently. Last night, my action came back unsuccessful - no disorientation or anything. The fact that I did not inherit the investigator action means that I've had two different failed attempts with my night action by two different means. Given that, I think it's unlikely that there are two different means of tampering that result in the disoriented/woozy result. This would mean that Bergulf was the target of another player besides myself. If we could identify that player, we'd have a scum. Now, if I propose this line of thinking, and we lynch that player and they're not scum, you'd rightly come and lynch me the next day. If that player comes forward as Einherjar and explains that they have a tampering skill and targeted Bergulf because they thought he was scummy (most Einherjar who didn't know he was Artemis thought so), then we've got a logical explanation for why Bergulf's result came back wonky as well as my action having the same effect. That wouldn't clear me, but it wouldn't convict me either. You are correct, that lynching me will not put any major town roles at risk, however you will also lynch a loyal Einherjar who's worked hard to root out scum. Lest we forget the whole issues with Gerrid, who I expressed suspicion of before the issues between you and Hervi even began on day 2. Meatshield can be a useful tool for scum, but if I was in on it with Hervi, wouldn't it have been much simpler to simply have Hervi present that case so he really could get full credit for it? It doesn't make any sense that I would do it if we were partners, especially given that he had already been in contact with several Einherjar and was influencing decisions. No, Hervi tried to hop on my intuition and take credit for it. The reason I presented this to you in private was because I felt you were trustworthy enough with the way you had attacked Hervi and how that had turned out. I felt you would be likely to have enough information to piece things together and would be smart enough to see what a terrible move it would be for me to come to you with this if I was scum.

Wait a minute... most of your suspects have turned out to be Einherjar? The only Einherjar you actually voted for was Danr. Perhaps you can tell us who you suspect now.

Really? It's unfortunate that the scum have nabbed some key Einherjar, but to get four of them this quickly bodes quite well for us. The chances of finding the scum aren't growing slimmer at all. Maybe if we were randomly picking out of a hat, but we're not. We have quite a bit of discussion surrounding Hervi that we can look back on. We have people who called out Sigmund previously. We have the voting pattern for Gerrid. That's quite a bit of information that we should be able to use to narrow down the rest of us to a handful of people. Perhaps we can start by having you explain how you've been helping. For example, when the votes were being cast against Gerrid, your lack of contribution to the bandwagon came right at the point when the deciding 12th vote and the securing 13th vote would've helped seal his fate. Perhaps you were hoping that those votes would not come in? Your vote for the now proven Einherjar Bergulf came at a point where it would make the vote 5 for Bergulf and 9 for Gerrid. You even used the excuse that 3 votes had come in while placing your vote, yet that would've still been 6 for Gerrid. The momentum had shifted yet you went against it in what now looks like an effort to split the vote. I called you on it then and I'll call you on it again now.

My what a great turn of events. I'm sorry to see that we lost Bergulf, but nabbing two servants since the start of yesterday is great progress! There can't be that many of them left.

I just picked up Kingdoms Joust. It's gorgeous put together, and my wife... who is supportive but has never been interested in actually doing anything with Lego decided to help me build part of it. When it was done, she said, "It's too bad you didn't get two to put them back to back." We can't afford that right now, but wow!

I'm disturbed that Hervi would have directed the protector to protect the blocker night one and not a claimed investigator until that investigator could be verified. Also, this... Doesn't seem like it could possibly be a role that is Einherjar friendly. Anything that sows confusion must at the very least be neutral, no? Yet Hervi didn't bother to bring this up to our attention in a play. I'd like to hear more about this person tomorrow if there is information to be had. Or perhaps Hervi is just making this up. Vote: Hervi Pudding-Head (Hinckley)

Hai! Of course I'm serious. Surely you're not going to deny that it worked out pretty well yesterday. Bandwagons are how we get people lynched, and without lynches we learn nothing. I can respect you for sticking with who you felt was most suspicious, but I also think that anyone who wasn't involved in securing Gerrid's fate is someone to look at.

I'm kind of curious why you didn't do that.

Ha hah! Another foul Servant of Loki vanquished. That was a most decidedly bad night, but I'm glad I presented the case against Gerrid and we were able to see it through to completion by the end of the day. Time to go back and review in light of the recent revelations, and catch another scum. One a day and we'll be in very good shape.

I like how Poppy and Randy sewed Ian's head back on before bringing him out back of police headquarters.

The case against Gerrid is this: 1. She was the third vote for Bloodaxe on day 1 in an effort to get Bloodaxe to talk. This despite Bloodaxe having just recently been revealed as unavailable and there were already two votes on him. 2. She quickly changed her vote to Danr when her mistake was pointed out, but there was no justification for that vote. To me, it came across as scum trying to hide themselves. I know Einherjar aren't always particularly brave about standing out, but we really don't have anything to hide from each other. 3. Today, she delcared that she felt the need to tell us all that she found some of us trustworthy, and that she wouldn't come to our defense unless needed. This struck me as a way to look helpful without being so. I also haven't seen her defend anyone yet, despite the fact that numerous people have been accused. I think she's scared to stand out. 4. The communication formatting thing? Doesn't mean a thing to me, honestly. I usually think quietly to myself before presenting those thoughts publicly, and this new Valhalla communication system isn't quite as friendly to me in that regard. As to your note on Hervi being cleared if Gerrid turns up scum, I don't think Gerrid coming up as scum clears Hervi. He was the third vote for Gerrid to this point, and he's spent more time defending himself against you than trying to push for the votes needed to lynch Gerrid. 　 As Sveinn says, I wouldn't expect the Servants of Loki to directly defend them. We all saw how that worked out for Danr yesterday. The vote being split is probably all they're hoping to achieve at this point, and we are unfortunately not unified against any one individual. 　 This doesn't look like the vote of someone who's looking for resolution and conclusion with just a few hours left in the day.

Hoy! Now Hervi and Dragmall are all happy to let bygones be bygones! Hopefully, they've come to some mutual understanding that will move us all forward quickly in the days to come. What I look for in townies are people who are are using their own thought process to come to their own conclusions given what they know and what has been said. I didn't see that from you. Your third vote to get someone to talk struck me as excessive for the stated purpose. You didn't have any trouble changing your vote to Danr later. Personally, I don't have any problem with people proposing alternatives to a primary lynch target early in the day, as sometimes things change and it's good to have alternative suspicions to follow up on. I guess you could've just left out that bit. Personally, it struck me as trying to look helpful without being so. I would imagine that every one of us here has some people we suspect are Einherjar. That doesn't set you apart. My suspicions were based on the relative lack of perceived effort compared to the quantity of communication.

　 I am going to leave my vote with Gerrid for now, as there hasn't yet been a response, but I agree the primary discussion is likely to lead to a more interesting conclusion. Ah... not that's not what I was saying. Gerrid was the third vote for Wilhalm, which is a bit excessive if all you're trying to do is get someone to talk. As for Dragmall vs. Hervi, I agree with Chief Mursi that Dragmall's reaction gave me a bit of a twitch, but I'm also a bit uncomfortable with lynching him over a comment made outside these halls. That said, going back to Dragmall's original retort: Here, Dragmall seems to be claiming that he never told Steinvoir he was neutral and after others confirmed the discussion did happen he says it was a joke. Seems like this is a change of his story. Am I misinterpreting that somehow? 　

Very nice build, but I find the color combination a bit grating.

I'm sorry, but you were the third vote for him. How would it have been foolish? Were you afraid you might not blend in with the crowd? If he was already condemned, you vote for someone else might've been meaningless for that day's lynch. It's only foolish if you're trying to hide. Instead you would've voted for no one? That would also have been a nice spot to hide, I suppose. Good. Keep your thoughts to yourself until they're demanded of you. That's a good way to show that you're here to help us find the Servants of Loki. I've a mind to put an arrow in you right now. 　 Vote: Gerrid (Captain Genaro) 　 　 　 From this, you would infer that Bergulf and Hervi are scum buddies if you really think that Hervi's intentions are to protect Bergulf. 　 I could see Hervi trying to get into Artemis' good graces if they are not on the same team and Artemis is indeed Einherjar. It would also be possible that Hervi is trying to protect Artemis and setting up an elaborate ruse here, but if Artemis wasn't on anyone's radar, what would be the point? I'd really like to see some more detail around this pub conversation. It is possible that Hervi is super paranoid, although his calm in previous battles would suggest to me that is somewhat unlikely. 　 But if there were others present in the conversation that knew Dragmall's joke was meant in jest, why would Hervi risk himself in this way. This is the one point that concerns me about your case.

I think that the two investigators seem a bit sketchy but I would hesitate to reveal either name publicly until we have a better way to validate which one is potentially telling the truth and which one is potentially lying. Perhaps someone with two good eyes can keep one on each of them. Hades claiming neutral, is to me, nothing but trouble. We have no guarantee of his allegiance against the Servants of Loki.

Ah hah! Excellent work to our night killer, who killed the loco Servant of Loki. It's quite a shame to lose our Meat-Shield, but an eye for an eye seems a reasonable trade here... hmm... maybe that's not the best analogy... The conclusion to me here is that either we got lucky or the vigilante saw something in Jormund's behavior that tipped him off. I don't have a clue which it is, but looking back at the discussion from Day 1, it strikes me that we have simply been lucky. I could see the scum killing him as he's a challenging foe in battle and I would imagine they would rather do their work against him at night. Some of these latter suggestions just strike me as trying to confuse the issue. Yes, those are possibilities, but the simplest conclusion at this point is that the scum killed him. I see no reason to focus too much on alternative theories until there is evidence to suggest it. If we see three kills in a subsequent night, or find other evidence to suggest that three individuals posses killing powers, then it makes sense. I must say that I'm a bit surprised at how unanimous the vote for Danr was given "we really didn't have much to go on yesterday". At the moment, one of my suspicions is Gerrid. Gerrid joined in on the vote for Wilhalm Bloodaxe, but then voted to a "symbolic" vote for Danr when it was pointed out the reasons for Bloodaxe's absence to that point. Yesterday I called CraneBeinn out for the same thing, but he gave a reasonable response. So I'll call Gerrid out for it today. It's is also worth pointing out that the two to not cast a vote were Bloodaxe and Wary the Black.

Reincarnation is da bomb! *wink* I'm ready to go again!

1) What previous experience have you had with mafia games? Witchbreed, Imhotep, Yakuza, Jedi Temple and Excalibur. 2) Will you be able to actively engage with the game for the next 6 weeks or so? Yes. I don't have any expected conflicts. 3) In terms of your playing style, which Norse god do you identify with most? I may fancy myself Odin or Loki at times, but I'm probably more Höðr.

Hey, I thought you didn't understand acronyms.