Darth_Bane13 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, Flieger said: His E3 novel is a must-read for every SW fan, indeed. I was amazed by the depth of his characterizations. Funny, I thought most SW EU novels were bad. Even as a fan of Stackpole's BT-novels I hated his X-Wing series e.g., and only Zahn remained on my shelf. Then I read Chuck Wendig and Claudia Grey... and I thought I should give Stackpole a second chance. I tried reading the first X wing book as a kid and couldn't get into it, I didn't think it was fun to read space battles as opposed to watching them. I wouldn't say most EU novels are bad though, the prequel era has a lot of good ones. I've hardly read anything from the new canon, I really hate the post endor era in canon 1 hour ago, PrinceLucius said: Rey is mostly an anti-hero, because she initially does not want to leave Jakku and join the rebellion, and even when she does, she is mostly motivated by things happening to her or to someone else around her, not by pursuing things she wants herself. Of course, this eventually changes, when she does want to confront Kylo Ren, but nevertheless, her character is not defined by an arch of pursuing something, but by a series of events moving her around. Generally the division between an anti-hero and a hero is not totally black and white. It depends on the average type of motivation, which kicks the character going. In Disney's style, it tends to be the anti-hero type more often. (And to be clear, an anti-hero can be completely "good" and on the good guys' side and do heroic deeds. The definitive question is what fundamentally motivates the character, their own spirit or circumstances.) Anti-hero is not necessarily any worse or better choice for a character than the hero type. Andor is an anti-hero, too. It is just a common trope and particularly common for Disney, so much so that one can see a pattern. And yep, Andor has questionable morals, and he is more interesting and realistic exactly because of that, and indeed in contrast to the typical Disney pattern. What I learned, they shot Andor in England and tried to keep it low and not really ask for permissions, so that's at least the story how they avoided being constricted by the Disney ideals. Anyway, the Disney ideals are a seemingly strict even if not totally opaque pattern. There are exceptions, but generally the Disney concept does dictate a lot what kind of content they can produce. In fact, the concept of Star Wars does too: a movie (at least an episode movie) should open by a ship entering black space, it should include a chase scene and a beast and a double fight at the end, and it should be told linearily and over a short span of time without written tags on the screen. Does not strictly apply in all parts to every episode, but the concept generally holds firm. As a personal opinion, the Disney concept does not suit well to Star Wars, because it makes Star Wars feel and taste more like Disney when it should feel and taste primarily like Star Wars. For this reason I generally would prefer the only restrictions to be set by the concept of Star Wars itself, and otherwise explore the different ends of the lore. Not that the Disney era hadn't done it all. Andor was an espionage thriller fitted into the Star Wars concept (though I would have preferred them still cutting on screen tags and use more background shots and intercourse to reveal the location, but the series typically don't have budget for it; you don't see much aliens in Andor, for example). I think Rey is really just a poorly written hero's journey. I don't think they ever intended or shown her to be morally gray. I think an anti hero is more than just what motivates them, it's their actions. The Punisher for example is an anti hero because he kills people and generally lacks typical heroic qualities, his motivations might be good (getting rid of bad guys, saving people, etc) but he's still an anti hero. An anti hero needs to be somewhat morally gray, at least from my understanding of the term, I could be wrong. I definitely agree about Disney being a bad fit for Star Wars. I would've rather George kept Star Wars and done nothing with it than what we got from Disney Quote
Llewop Posted 33 minutes ago Posted 33 minutes ago How long before someone army builds a bunch of upscaled Clones? Quote
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