Tariq j Posted January 6 Posted January 6 13 hours ago, Renegade Clone said: Do my eyes deceive me or does R2 have a rotating head now?!? He does! Though frustratingly it’s the smart brick version which has a red 2x2 plate attached to the back of him. 7 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said: Who would possibly be the SMART figures for Echo Base? Luke (again)? I also don't care for any new Hoth stuff until they fix the Rebel Trooper design (go back to the 2016 style/colors), maybe if they give us some new Hoth extras, but given how small the other SMART sets are, probably pass. Maybe Hoth version of Han and Leia? And a Snowtrooper as well? I could see them doing a Tauntaun with one of those smart tag things. I’m excited for Anakin’s Delta-7B but not just for the set itself. I’m hoping that (along with sets like Cobb Vanth’s speeder and Obi Wan’s starfighter) it signals a return for more <£50 sets that aren’t just microfighters and mech builds. There used to be a really lucrative range of <£50 sets like Yoda’s hut, Old Luke’s hut, the Carbonite Freezing Chamber, Duel on Naboo, Duel on Mustafar, the A-Wing etc. that sort of fizzled out over the last few years. Quote
Calanon Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/6/2026 at 10:29 AM, Dolor said: LEGO SMART Play System SMART Bricks SMART Tags SMART Minifigures The TIE sounds alright. X-wing doesn't really sound like an X-wing. I also watched the one with the cantina and the music is not the SW cantina music and it's a struggle to hear it over the moving of the Lego pieces to make it play. On 1/6/2026 at 10:29 AM, Dolor said: LEGO SMART Play System SMART Bricks SMART Tags SMART Minifigures The TIE sounds alright. X-wing doesn't really sound like an X-wing. I also watched the one with the cantina and the music is not the SW cantina music and it's a struggle to hear it over the moving of the Lego pieces to make it play. Quote
Llewop Posted January 6 Posted January 6 10 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Indeed. The M&G and 2HY playsets in particular sound great, but it'll be quite a blemish on this year's overall output if there really are no Ahsoka S2 sets. Too early to tell though. Fingers crossed! Maybe whatever they have planned for Ahsoka S2 is considered too spoilery and they will wait for Jan 27 to release. So far without a trailer it’s hard to speculate but we’ve got all the main/notable characters from S1 except for gold head (cant remember his name cba to google it as well lmao). Rumours are season 2 is going to have a few big battles so I’m guessing a few NR ships but again maybe the characters included reveal to much? 9 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said: Who would possibly be the SMART figures for Echo Base? Luke (again)? I also don't care for any new Hoth stuff until they fix the Rebel Trooper design (go back to the 2016 style/colors), maybe if they give us some new Hoth extras, but given how small the other SMART sets are, probably pass. I reckon the echo base will be a trench, a turret (like we’ve got from past Hoth sets) and a micro AT-AT no point having a snowspeeder without the AT-AT and at $140 got make the piece count up somehow. Figure wise I’m guessing snowtrooper, one hoth rebel and either a pilot Luke or Hoth Han as the smart figure. the more pics come out of these sets the more it seems like it’s going to be a big loss. That’s why they gone for OT stuff so far because people are desperate enough to buy them, if they had released all sets that are due to be smart as regular sets we’d all be hailing it as the greatest wave in history. The fact the figures themselves have the crap printing on the back indicating it’s smart immediately alienates those people who are collectors because a lot of people on here love figure accuracy. It’s also rare these days I know but there are kids who don’t have access to fully utilise the smart brick so again it’s such a gimmick and I can only see Lego losing a lot of money from this but then again because it’s OT they’ll make back a fair amount of money because people always buy OT stuff regardless. testing a full wave on SW also sounds like they aren’t convinced otherwise they would be doing sets for Marvel/DC/Harry Potter etc this year as well all those themes have similar potential for smart bricks. thinking of the normal sets due to come out. I’m excited about an Imperial shuttle, means a whole not of new imperial figures. I’m right in thinking it’s linked to M&G? Never saw a shuttle in the 3 seasons of the Mandolorian if memory serves so it can only be from the film. Which again SW marketing being what it is means there will be at least one new stormtrooper type in there somewhere. Not keen on the Sandcrawler but happy for those who want one, might pick up some figures if they look interesting enough. AT-AT again I’ve got the last one, seems more expensive than the previous, is that inflation or does it come with a side build? Or is it downsized and overpriced (probably combo of all of them) Would rather an Endo bunker over Ewok village but again maybe something to pick up on sale but can see most the pieces going to two large trees and a hut or two and maybe two speeders if anything only gut is telling me it’ll be worst than Yavin. Jedi Starfighter gut feeling again is it’ll just be Anakin and R2 especially as it looks to be retailing cheaper than the Ahsoka one which came with 2 figures and a droid. Curious though two Anakins in the same wave? You’d have thought they’d have spread them out a bit Quote
Sinistereo Posted January 6 Posted January 6 13 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Forgive me if the specific set numbers are required, but to consolidate information about other future sets: "SMART" sets: Ewok Attack ($29.99) Battle of Hoth- Echo Base ($139.99): Includes a snowspeeder R2-D2 (Includes a smart brick) Regular, good old Lego sets: Ewok Village ($179.99) "Star Wars Mini-Movie Posters" ($49.99) Upscaled Darth Vader Minifigure ($99.99) Yoda Statue ($149.99) Bounty Hunter Pursuit ($59.99) "Icons of Star Wars ($79.99) Luke Skywalker's X-wing Microfighter ($14.99) Bespin Duel Anakin's Delta-7 Jedi Starfighter ($29.99) Mandalorian and Grogu sets (Also regular, good old lego): Sandcrawler ($199.99, likely ): Includes a mudhorn Imperial Shuttle ($139.99): AT-AT ($179.99): it is nice to have official confirmation of there being a Mando AT-AT Set, it seemed like too big of a scene in the movie to not have a set based off of it. Personally I don't own any lego Imperial walker so this set is a must buy for me. With that price point I am hopeful that it is the same scale as the older AT-AT sets Quote
BrickPrick Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) What a mess. Look how they massacred my Cantina. *Breathing in* Seriously, other than trying to find new creative ways to raise prices and pick even more money out of people's pockets... what on earth is the freaking point about any of this? Who is this for? I see next to no redeeming qualities about playing in this "next dimension". The design is catastrophic for the most part. The functionality already shows it's ugly face, not to say ears, in terms of how limited it's actually gonna be. There won't even be some killer exclusives minifigures included. So you have a new product line that neither bring displayable or playable attributes to the table... not even collectible aspects. What it will do, however, is asking for a lot of your hard earned cash. WHAT. A. WASTE. *Breathing out* And now I do what all this Smart Play Slop TM doesn't want you do to at all: use your own imagination. So I imagine how awesome the new Zam Wesell minifigure is hopefully gonna be. A new helmet mould has to be a given. As well as THE alternative alien face print. 20 days until I will be welcoming my boyo Bane in peak condition into my collection... probably. Edited January 6 by BrickPrick Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I have to correct myself, Kuiil did show up in the episode with the Offworld Jawas! I completely forgot about the negotiation scene So the Sandcrawler could easily include him, after all. Maybe even a Trandoshan too to complete the cast of the episode And I still highly doubt it‘s a M&G set. Sure, a Sandcrawler could theoretically appear in the film, but a mudhorn too? Nah. Quote
Mr. Cube Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I just saw the video showing The Cantina, how they wiggle with that constantly, just to hear some LEGO clicking sounds mixed with non-iconic Cantina audio. Are they serious? Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't completely throw out the whole idea. It actually took me back to my first Classic Space sets, which had a Light&Sound system in them. But the execution, the target audience vs. the price of the sets... I don't know how succesfull this will be. Quote
BrickPrick Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 5 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: And I still highly doubt it‘s a M&G set. Sure, a Sandcrawler could theoretically appear in the film, but a mudhorn too? Nah. So it's probably gonna be a Mando season 1 set, right? I mean they may just mixing and matching two scenes into one set for this one again. 5 hours ago, Mr. Cube said: I just saw the video showing The Cantina, how they wiggle with that constantly, just to hear some LEGO clicking sounds mixed with non-iconic Cantina audio. Are they serious? Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't completely throw out the whole idea. It actually took me back to my first Classic Space sets, which had a Light&Sound system in them. But the execution, the target audience vs. the price of the sets... I don't know how succesfull this will be. It's unbelievably underwhelming. The thing is, it not only doesn't do what it's supposed to do. Nope, what it actually does, is incredibly lackluster too. Without the shadow of a doubt, you have to be playing the actual Cantina theme here. I mean you've got part of the band, the stage is set, this is the only right thing to do. But they just don't. And what they do instead isn't even any good. Maybe partially due to the video recording, the audio is very quiet and doesn't appear to be of any higher quality. I'm not even the target audience for all this and it still feels like a slap in the face, because they must have invested tons of resources for this regardless. And the thought they are killing precious system scale set slots for all this slop is kinda unbearable for me right now. Edited January 6 by BrickPrick Quote
Kaijumeister Posted January 6 Posted January 6 It’s odd that the X-Wing and TIE Advanced sound effects are as generic as they are, same with the cantina music too, given that the Smart Brick plays the Imperial March without any issue when it scans Vader. Maybe there were some limitations to what sort of audio Lucasfilm allowed Lego to use / replicate? The sound effects in the Final Duel are similarly not as distinctly ‘Star Wars’ as I’d hoped. The little function to have the Modal Nodes actually start grooving on the spot whilst the Smart Brick plays music is neat. But again without actually being able to play the cantina band music, what’s the point? Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 8 hours ago, SpacePolice89 said: I hope that most SW sets will still be normal ones (and this goes for other themes as well). Does anyone have any idea on how the ratio will be (smart vs. normal sets)? It's hard to tell at the moment, but it seems like our total number of good old fashioned "dumb" sets should be about the same as last year. Now, if Smart Brick is successful, that might change, but right now it seems like the "smart" sets mainly add to our total rather than eat up slots. Which really softens the blow- I still don't like that they'll likely reset the clock on when we can get some of these sets in their normal "dumb" versions, but other than that, I can't complain as much. 8 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: There’s a non-zero chance that the sentinel might be the imperial shuttle class in M&G. Filoni and Favreau already showed us with the AT AT and Zeb having a significant role that M&G may be harkening back to Rebels. So the sentinel shuttle would do both that and convey that the Empire is so low on resources that officers have to use the standard troop transports. I’m going to guess that the shuttle is the set that comes with the main imperial warlord since the AT AT is supposed to be the opening. Maybe we also see Pellaeon? But it’s most likely going to be just Jonny Coyne’s Shadow Council member from Mando S3 who is confirmed to be in the movie. That's possible, though it would be really ironic how 90% of our ANH material is coming this year as either extremely compromised smart sets, or Mando sets in that case. That's the most likely option. Though given there doesn't seem to be a "hero" vehicle this wave, I wonder if Mando's commandeered this shuttle to transport the character he's allegedly been hired to retrieve, given we don't know when in the movie he gets the Crest. 8 hours ago, BrickPrick said: Yeah, it simply can't be a coincidence. And if it was... Intentionally or not, somebody just did Lego a huge favor. And for some of us fans as well. As no matter how critical you are of the Smart Play stuff, this surprising summer wave news is a welcome change of pace. It just immediately lights up the mood. That's how I feel about it, anyways. By the way, happy for all of you guys who never had a good chance of getting the Bespin Luke due to vastly limited availability. Yeah, even that had it's 100+ worth of sets. Don't know about a three year plan and whether they wanted to make it the next big thing or not. But compared to their own Ninjago... it feels super small. So I opted for that comparison. But now that I see it... Vidyo is the much more appropriate one! If I had to take an uneducated guess why they hype it to heaven now and not a couple of years ago, then I would say maybe because they are now feeling much more confident about it. Confident enough to push it across various (un)licenced Lego themes. Rather than it being known as just "the Mario gimmick", so to speak. It's now THE SMART PLAY SYSTEM. Yeah- as I've said earlier, yesterday could have been the day I lost all hope in the theme, but instead it's the most hope I've felt for it in awhile. That's a good point. He didn't come in a standard set anywhere- the US one was limited release, and in the EU he was just in a magazine. (And plenty of regions didn't get him at all outside the MBS set) Yup. Another one that's focused heavily on integration with technology. I think they're smart not to include an app with this one, but I still can't see it selling as well as you'd expect. That is probably the reason. 4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I have to correct myself, Kuiil did show up in the episode with the Offworld Jawas! I completely forgot about the negotiation scene So the Sandcrawler could easily include him, after all. Maybe even a Trandoshan too to complete the cast of the episode And I still highly doubt it‘s a M&G set. Sure, a Sandcrawler could theoretically appear in the film, but a mudhorn too? Nah. Especially since I believe the Trandoshan mold has to be pretty close to retirement at this point, and nothing else on the horizon seems likely to include them. Yes- I didn't see at first that the mudhorn was included, that confirms it's Mando S1. The cantina's smart integration is definitely rough. It's absurd to me that Disney evidently wouldn't let them use the cantina music, the gear crunching seems to make it hard to hear the audio as well. And the stage also suffers from the same issue as the brick-included sets, wherein the apparatus to fit the brick is very visible and hinders the ability to display or use the set in a "dumb" context. Edited January 6 by Mandalorianknight Quote
Tariq j Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Kaijumeister said: The little function to have the Modal Nodes actually start grooving on the spot whilst the Smart Brick plays music is neat. But again without actually being able to play the cantina band music, what’s the point? And whilst it could be the sound quality of the video, the clicking/rattling of the bricks means you can barely hear the music being played. Quote
Kaijumeister Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Tariq j said: And whilst it could be the sound quality of the video, the clicking/rattling of the bricks means you can barely hear the music being played. Exactly, the Throne Room has the same issue. 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: It's hard to tell at the moment, but it seems like our total number of good old fashioned "dumb" sets should be about the same as last year. Now, if Smart Brick is successful, that might change, but right now it seems like the "smart" sets mainly add to our total rather than eat up slots. Which really softens the blow- I still don't like that they'll likely reset the clock on when we can get some of these sets in their normal "dumb" versions, but other than that, I can't complain as much. That's possible, though it would be really ironic how 90% of our ANH material is coming this year as either extremely compromised smart sets, or Mando sets in that case. The cantina's smart integration is definitely rough. It's absurd to me that Disney evidently wouldn't let them use the cantina music, the gear crunching seems to make it hard to hear the audio as well. And the stage also suffers from the same issue as the brick-included sets, wherein the apparatus to fit the brick is very visible and hinders the ability to display or use the set in a "dumb" context. For what it’s worth, Solid Brix Studios mentions in his initial reaction video that the Smart Play sets are explicitly for younger audiences and not targeted at teenagers and above. That coupled with your point around Smart Brick set slots supplementing Dumb Brick ones does make me think SB sets should be considered their own thing. These Mando sets sound really great, but the amount of OT vehicle rehashing also makes me wish there’d be more ‘new’ stuff associated with the film. Imagine getting Ahsoka’s T-6 at one of the higher price points. This reminds me of a weird anecdote about the Kenobi show. Deborah Chow mentioned that certain legacy themes couldn’t be used by Natalie Holt for the show’s score. A shame that the music was considered one of the show’s low points given Holt’s excellent work on Loki. But Disney being Disney would explain the lack of accurate sounds / music in these sets. I still maintain that the Smart Brick itself looks pretty cool. I’d be keen to have a couple of them, a bunch of the tiles, and tons of random bricks and just play around. I think the play pattern will work best without the corporate licensed angle, but time will tell. I don’t see these being a paradigm shift though. Edited January 6 by Kaijumeister Quote
Virginia_Bricks Posted January 6 Posted January 6 15 minutes ago, Kaijumeister said: For what it’s worth, Solid Brix Studios mentions in his initial reaction video that the Smart Play sets are explicitly for younger audiences and not targeted at teenagers and above. That coupled with your point around Smart Brick set slots supplementing Dumb Brick ones does make me think SB sets should be considered their own thing. If this is Lego's way to get into the more technology savvy toy market and increase its product line and diversity, it seems a win for all. If this is Lego's way to differentiate from other brick companies, I worry. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Listen, I get there's probably issues causing this in terms of storage space and royalties and such, and I'm sure the video quality isn't helping but the fact the Cantina Smart Brick set doesn't even play the song makes me wonder what the point of doing that set was? Like it's the mechanism where you mainly hear plates scraping together and just under is some copyright free generic music is unfortunate Quote
Nobricksleft Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I agree that SP will eventually go down the same way Vidiyo did...quietly. I expect probably a dozen SW sets that I will gladly skip unless they make a new vehicle or location. I gotta say the throne room play function is a nice throw back to the 2005 ULD set, and with the return of the Bounty Hunter Pursuit, nostalgia is setting in. Imagine if Count Dooku makes an appearance... Shuttle might be tempting if bigger than the last, but seems unlikely. Budget for Jango's UCS is therefore secured. Strickly business. Quote
Swordy Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I somehow forgot to mention the Mandalorian sets, all of which sound amazing! Sandcrawler with Mudhorn blows my mind. None of the previous Sandcrawlers have captivated me in particular (I may go as far as to say the playset Sandcrawler looks better than the UCS one) so I’m hopefully that, with a price of $200, TLG can capture the vehicle well. Additionally, this set has got to include Kuiil, a character whom I’ve needed since 2021. I also believe the UCS durasteel Mando is in order, although I’d personally rather a muddied-version instead, as I’m personally content with the 2019 version for my own collection. A shame that more iconic characters like C-3PO, Artoo, or Uncle Owen won’t be able to populate the scene. If the minifig budget is instead put toward a decent Mudhorn and a respectable Sandcrawler, then I’d be more than happy. Somehow, I was (once again) wrong—we’re getting an AT-AT over a new Razor Crest. I don’t mind; the AT-AT doesn’t seem to have been downscaled, so we should be in order for a great playset depicting that cooler-than-ice fight scene. Maybe I’ll buy this one for the sake of Mando, but it’s most likely a skip. Interesting to know that we’ll have three, albeit very different, LEGO AT-ATs on shelves. The Imperial Shuttle is a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. I skipped the ‘21 version because it didn’t live up to the ship, so I hope this will be much improved over that. It should be larger, too, but likely still smaller than the Shuttle of ‘15. I just hope TLG pulls this one off right. Curious if this will be the set to contain Zeb and the villain of the movie. Both the Sandcrawler and Imperial Shuttle would make fine additions to my collection. Glad to know someone at LEGO is looking out for the new OT fans. I’d also like to concede anything I said about the “smart” Cantina. 21 hours ago, Kaijumeister said: Always enjoy reading your takes @Swordy, I agree the Death Star Final Duel does make for a fantastic playset purely in terms of the experience it offers. Even though both the TIE Advanced and X-Wing models are extremely lacklustre (guess Vader’s thankful his armour is pressurised), I do like that their sidebuilds are also intended to give a more holistic play experience than what we usually get with vehicles featuring antagonising minifigures without giving them any chance at putting up a fight. Either Dooku or a Magnaguard being included with Anakin’s Delta-7B makes sense to me. Magnaguards are some of my favourite droid designs and I’ve been itching to see an update. I doubt they’d reuse Ventress as Star Wars sets are typically decent at not reusing named characters the way Marvel does. I’m really shocked at just how much Lego are going all out for TMaG. It’s not inherently surprising but nonetheless, I guess there’ll be more to the film than meets the eye. Still holding out hope for confirmation of one or two Ahsoka sets but overall, I’m glad the theme has a very strong lineup for the year. I just hope the quality of the builds and minifigures are good. Thank you! That’s true. For being “boring” remakes, TLG has gone the extra mile to include multiple scenery builds to round out the play experience. It seems as though the smart brick has reminded designers that interaction between sets and builds within those sets is a necessary aspect of play. A true shame that the prices are so high. (Nor do I believe major discounts will help; most LEGO resellers will grab them as soon as they can see profit before tiny Tim gets his chance.) A new Magnaguard would be dope. I’d curious if TLG would use a droid body like before or use the standard minifig design instead. Most likely the former, since any occasion TLG have deviated from their previous norm has garnered them backlash. True. I’m just trying to keep my expectations at bay. We’ll see if even the SF comes with three figs (including Artoo) or not. Perhaps TMaG has the legs to stand, but the sets rumored so far are effectively OT remakes with Mando figs; similar to the strategy of previous Mando sets. If anything, might have the non-OT based Mando sets not have done as well? I can think of the Kelleran BARC set, the Paz V Gideon set, maybe even the Armored Maruader or Light Cruiser as sets that didn’t contain references to the OT and also did worse than the other Mando sets. Then again, we are seeing Cobb Vanth’s speeder come to fruition this year, so I may be overemphasizing that correlation. Additionally, the fact that all these sets are over $100 does also show promise. (Don‘t forget that the $10 speeder exists for the kids caught on the hype too.) Minifigs will always be good in LSW. (At the very least, they’ll be well-detailed.) I only hope that the builds will improve. The price budgets seem to be there, but whether the builds will match that remains to be seen. 21 hours ago, Kaijumeister said: Still holding out hope for confirmation of one or two Ahsoka sets but overall, I’m glad the theme has a very strong lineup for the year. 20 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Indeed. The M&G and 2HY playsets in particular sound great, but it'll be quite a blemish on this year's overall output if there really are no Ahsoka S2 sets. Too early to tell though. Fingers crossed! Several sources have began to espouse doubts in Ahsoka S2 releasing in 2026. I could see a late December release if anything, and thus LEGO would delay sets to either January or March. 18 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said: Who would possibly be the SMART figures for Echo Base? Luke (again)? I also don't care for any new Hoth stuff until they fix the Rebel Trooper design (go back to the 2016 style/colors), maybe if they give us some new Hoth extras, but given how small the other SMART sets are, probably pass. Another Anakin Starfighter is meh, but an updated Anakin (and maybe Phase I Rex?) would be worth it. We know about a “smart” Artoo already. I could see Pilot Luke again; maybe Vader too, given how liberal they’re being with the scenes. Ha, imagine a blue Hoth Han but it’s a smart figure. I do think/hope that less smart figs will be included so that the Echo Base build can be more complete. You know, I had the same thought about P1 Rex but I didn’t want to get my hopes up too much. It’s entirely possible, but maybe at the cost of a Count Dooku, a Prequel villain of whom I think more people would want an update than another version of Rex. (Although I wouldn’t mind either one, or possibly both of them if we’re lucky.) Quote
icm Posted January 6 Posted January 6 5 minutes ago, Swordy said: Somehow, I was (once again) wrong—we’re getting an AT-AT over a new Razor Crest. I don’t mind; the AT-AT doesn’t seem to have been downscaled, so we should be in order for a great playset depicting that cooler-than-ice fight scene. Maybe I’ll buy this one for the sake of Mando, but it’s most likely a skip. Interesting to know that we’ll have three, albeit very different, LEGO AT-ATs on shelves. Somehow, there doesn't seem to be room for another Razor Crest in the latest round of rumors, does there? Some product manager at Lego is out of their gourd for not fast-tracking a new Razor Crest to shelves in time for the new movie. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted January 6 Posted January 6 3 hours ago, Kaijumeister said: For what it’s worth, Solid Brix Studios mentions in his initial reaction video that the Smart Play sets are explicitly for younger audiences and not targeted at teenagers and above. That coupled with your point around Smart Brick set slots supplementing Dumb Brick ones does make me think SB sets should be considered their own thing. These Mando sets sound really great, but the amount of OT vehicle rehashing also makes me wish there’d be more ‘new’ stuff associated with the film. Imagine getting Ahsoka’s T-6 at one of the higher price points. This reminds me of a weird anecdote about the Kenobi show. Deborah Chow mentioned that certain legacy themes couldn’t be used by Natalie Holt for the show’s score. A shame that the music was considered one of the show’s low points given Holt’s excellent work on Loki. But Disney being Disney would explain the lack of accurate sounds / music in these sets. Yup. If these don't take away from the normal system sets, while I still don't like the concept, I won't be all that annoyed. Unfortunately that seems to be more an issue with TMAG itself than the sets- I don't think we've seen a single new vehicle in any promotional material yet. Used to be we'd always get a few new starfighters and trooper variants front and center. And trust me, I think about getting a $140-180 T-6 all the time. Maybe we'll see one in september- though I know the $80 one didn't sell all that well, so we'll have to see. That is a weird anecdote, I don't understand why disney would do that. Same here- what do they lose from letting the playsets use the official audio? Lego uses those noises pretty consistently in their shows and games, why is disney drawing the line at putting those sounds in the toys? And I know Hasbro's been able to use accurate sounds before (including in Force Link, which was more or less just the smart brick system for action figures), so whatever legal interaction is happening here has to be hyper-specific. 44 minutes ago, icm said: Somehow, there doesn't seem to be room for another Razor Crest in the latest round of rumors, does there? Some product manager at Lego is out of their gourd for not fast-tracking a new Razor Crest to shelves in time for the new movie. It would be funny if lego's Razor Crest suffered from the "early bird" star wars effect again and wasn't ready for the time of the movie, but given how long we've known about it being in the movie, my guess is lego might know more than we do. It may turn out that he gets the crest at the very end of the movie. I guess we'll get more hints to that as more trailers release and we see if any other merch covers the new crest. Quote
ArrowBricks Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) Right. The smart brick system. I don’t think I need to go into the obvious flaws as most of us (if not all of us) are in agreement with them. However, what I will say is that I appreciate the underlying ethos of the 3 sets. Even if they weren’t smart brick sets (they’d be better if they weren’t!), I’d have applauded the playability and extra dimensionality of them. For the first time in a long time, I am seeing sets that are extremely playable and their creativity moves beyond the focus of hyper-realistic display models. Simply, put, there’s lots more in them to play with than what we have seen. Now, let’s imagine if LEGO went down the sound brick route instead. Most of the issues would be sorted. I think this would be a far better approach providing the sounds were (ironically) accurate. It’s so disappointing that the Cantina band tune doesn't play! Regarding the other sets, all 3 M&G/The Mandalorian sets sound intriguing, especially the Lambda! Excited to see those given the price points. Remember folks we still have more M&G sets rumoured! What I believe is the summer wave (?) sounds ok! Nothing overly exciting, but there are plenty of needed remakes there. For some of the newer stuff time will tell, and let’s hope Yoda does not have creepy eyes this time! Edited January 6 by ArrowBricks Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 53 minutes ago, icm said: Somehow, there doesn't seem to be room for another Razor Crest in the latest round of rumors, does there? Some product manager at Lego is out of their gourd for not fast-tracking a new Razor Crest to shelves in time for the new movie. I think @Mandalorianknight may be right on the $75 April set being a Razor Crest. Just having been given the Slave One treatment. Basically a $70 style ship with Mando, Grogu and Sigourney Weaver or Zeb. Then the additional $5 being allocated to some form of Rotta. (Ninjago Serpentine tail?) It’d kinda make sense for the movie’s main ship and main cast to be more accessible. Either that or the $150 930 piece April set. But that may be the imperial shuttle due to the close price point. (Would be 7 pieces less than the 2015 Lambda, so better pray that the shuttle is a Sentinel upgrade if it is the $150 set) 5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: That's possible, though it would be really ironic how 90% of our ANH material is coming this year as either extremely compromised smart sets, or Mando sets in that case. That's the most likely option. Though given there doesn't seem to be a "hero" vehicle this wave, I wonder if Mando's commandeered this shuttle to transport the character he's allegedly been hired to retrieve, given we don't know when in the movie he gets the Crest. If you’re right about the $75 Razor Crest, then a Y-Wing is 100% happening next year. We saw the Crest having a dog fight with what looked like vulture droids in the trailer. So he probably has it through a large chunk of the movie. 1 hour ago, Swordy said: *Got Swordy’d on all other initial thoughts* The Imperial Shuttle is a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. I skipped the ‘21 version because it didn’t live up to the ship, so I hope this will be much improved over that. It should be larger, too, but likely still smaller than the Shuttle of ‘15. I just hope TLG pulls this one off right. Curious if this will be the set to contain Zeb and the villain of the movie. Both the Sandcrawler and Imperial Shuttle would make fine additions to my collection. Glad to know someone at LEGO is looking out for the new OT fans. I can think of the Kelleran BARC set, the Paz V Gideon set, maybe even the Armored Maruader or Light Cruiser as sets that didn’t contain references to the OT and also did worse than the other Mando sets. Yeah. This is why I’m particularly hoping this shuttle is a Sentinel class. That way it’s a guaranteed upgrade from past versions at that price. Also would be nice to see the gantry properly represented at that price and a sizeable troop bay. 3 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said: Right. The smart brick system. I don’t think I need to go into the obvious flaws as most of us (if not all of us) are in agreement with Regarding the other sets, all 3 M&G/The Mandalorian sets sound intriguing, especially the Lambda! Excited to see those given the price points. Remember folks we still have more M&G sets rumoured! Yeah. M&G has the opportunity to have a Rogue One style wave in both having a mix of OT and original vehicles incorporated into a banger wave of sets. It’s unconfirmed if it’s a Lambda or any class yet. I’m hoping it’s a Sentinel. But for all we know it could be a Zeta. 12 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: I don't think we've seen a single new vehicle in any promotional material yet. Anzellan spaceship Quote
hikouki Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Given these first videos, what do people think about the introduction of Smart Bricks in general? Should this be the future of Lego, or is it rather unnecessary. I mainly got into the SW theme because of 1) minifigs, and 2) displayable vehicles and scenes. I have my minifigs in frames, and the vehicles/ ships in static display (IKEA Kallax). Are there really that many AFOLs that swoosh and swish their models and ships around, playing as if you were 8 years old again? Quote
icm Posted January 7 Posted January 7 4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: I think @Mandalorianknight may be right on the $75 April set being a Razor Crest. Just having been given the Slave One treatment. Basically a $70 style ship with Mando, Grogu and Sigourney Weaver or Zeb. Then the additional $5 being allocated to some form of Rotta. (Ninjago Serpentine tail?) It’d kinda make sense for the movie’s main ship and main cast to be more accessible. Either that or the $150 930 piece April set. But that may be the imperial shuttle due to the close price point. (Would be 7 pieces less than the 2015 Lambda, so better pray that the shuttle is a Sentinel upgrade if it is the $150 set) If you’re right about the $75 Razor Crest, then a Y-Wing is 100% happening next year. I get the reasoning, but it would be a crying shame for any kid or adult who missed the original RC if Din Djarin's starship were to get the Slave 1 treatment and the only "large" playscale version ever made was the first one. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) Day #258 of the TIE Avenger hunt. Ya’ll better strap in, it looks like we’re going to be doing this for more than a year. 6 hours ago, hikouki said: Are there really that many AFOLs that swoosh and swish their models and ships around, playing as if you were 8 years old again? If we didn’t, then what’s the point? 6 hours ago, hikouki said: Should this be the future of Lego, or is it rather unnecessary. The reason why Lego’s so great is that it encourages imagination. The smartbrick removes some elements of imaginative play. To make pew noises, or not to make pew noises that is the question. I still hum my own ISD klaxons just for whenever I move around the personnel on my 2016 Death Star. I sometimes do little space battles between my Tantive and Light Cruiser. Making your own noises is part of the damn experience even as an adult. So Smartbricks mean we pay more for something that is arguably less creatively genuine. Edited January 7 by CloneCommando99 Quote
SpacePolice89 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 6 hours ago, hikouki said: Given these first videos, what do people think about the introduction of Smart Bricks in general? Should this be the future of Lego, or is it rather unnecessary. I mainly got into the SW theme because of 1) minifigs, and 2) displayable vehicles and scenes. I have my minifigs in frames, and the vehicles/ ships in static display (IKEA Kallax). Are there really that many AFOLs that swoosh and swish their models and ships around, playing as if you were 8 years old again? I Soviet Russia Lego plays with you! I think the smart bricks are totally unnecessary and takes away creativity and imagination. I think the real reason behind the smart bricks is to control how kids play. I don't mind some lights or sounds but the smart bricks are too intrusive, too expensive and unnecessary. Quote
BrickPrick Posted January 7 Posted January 7 15 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Yeah- as I've said earlier, yesterday could have been the day I lost all hope in the theme, but instead it's the most hope I've felt for it in awhile. That's a good point. He didn't come in a standard set anywhere- the US one was limited release, and in the EU he was just in a magazine. (And plenty of regions didn't get him at all outside the MBS set) Yup. Another one that's focused heavily on integration with technology. I think they're smart not to include an app with this one, but I still can't see it selling as well as you'd expect. The cantina's smart integration is definitely rough. It's absurd to me that Disney evidently wouldn't let them use the cantina music, the gear crunching seems to make it hard to hear the audio as well. And the stage also suffers from the same issue as the brick-included sets, wherein the apparatus to fit the brick is very visible and hinders the ability to display or use the set in a "dumb" context. Talking about contrasting emotions. However, like I already said, abondoning the theme... or how you just put it losing all hope, was never on the table and no deciding factor for me. If I had to consider leaving Lego for good every time they experiment on something stupid, whew... that's like running a marathon or rather a sprint in circles on a yearly basis. But I will say all this Smart Play stuff is not quite as amusing as I thought it would be. Yesterday, I actually had some angry bursts because I can literally make no sense of it all and because of the wasting aspects. It's not like Buildable Characters or other formats where I can see they are not for me, but also acknowledge their worth for others. But yeah, one moment I'm a little angry, the next I'm very amused... talking about contrasting emotions again. Yep, that's right. The Bespin Luke is like the light version in terms of limitation compared to the modern rendition of the Cloud City Lando. Hopefully he will be next in line. Hahaha, imagine a pros and cons list about Smart Play integration and one of the very few positives is "it doesn't actually feature an app". And oh man... I hope this whole stuff is gone before we even know it. Let it just be another one of these terrible trends, although on a larger scale than we may used to, and move on with our respected Lego lives. The execution is frankly ridiculous. And the thing is... While Lego may had licensing issues with Disney for some of the audio and music, you still need to go full force in on it. That stuff should be sorted out early on. And if you know for certain you won't get the Cantina theme going, well... maybe don't do a Cantina set at all! But no, they have to serve us the holy grail that is undoubtedly the old trilogy and fast forward their greatest hits collection. I'm telling you, I can't stand this "everything is better than nothing"-mentality. If the result is like this, then no... it's definitely not better! But I ask again, what do you make of that brick-build Dewback? Have you seen it? 6 hours ago, hikouki said: Given these first videos, what do people think about the introduction of Smart Bricks in general? Should this be the future of Lego, or is it rather unnecessary. Are there really that many AFOLs that swoosh and swish their models and ships around, playing as if you were 8 years old again? Internet bubble be damned, other than some people obliged to act out all excited, all I see is vastly negative reactions to it... rightfully so. But I think in the end it will depend on the purchasing behavior of some parents and grandparents (casuals in general) looking for gifts for their children. It absolutely shouldn't be THE future and it's unbelievably unnecessary. That would be the worst case scenario. Beste case would be all this stuff disappearing in just a couple of years. In between solution would be if it just co-exists along with everything else. I occasionally like to swoosh around some ships, yeah... But definitely not in the way the Smart Play stuff wants you to "play in the next dimension". Quote
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