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For a moment I got excited because I thought that meant the new Razor Crest was about to leak. But it's the midi version, of course. Still a few months to wait for the Crest.

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7 hours ago, Murdoch17 said:

@CloneCommando99 You might want to put that in English, lest you run the risk of mods seeing it. EB is English language only site.... just sayin'!

No need to mini-mod

7 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Oh whoops. I thought I might try something different. Oh well.

In this instance, where there has been a running bit for over 200 days, posting something in Spanish is not going to get you in trouble. Yes, English is the language we ask people to use on EB. But a joke is a joke, we're not going to knock you for continuing the joke.

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2 hours ago, Commander501 said:

The new AT-AT has leaked, it's beautiful! 

Looks really nice and great that the Lego also added a Snowspeeder. Only thing that is missing is the Hoth-Terrain.

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3 hours ago, Swordy said:

Massively disappointed in the leakers and TLG for ignoring the three-year standing Thanksgiving tradition. At least we’ve gotten a leak, even if it was two days late.

Totally random: I found an IKEA droid in Phantom Menace whilst rewatching the Nubian Starship escape Naboo, although it looks more like the McDonald’s/L3-G0 droid but the blue swapped out for the red. (So further proof why the X-Fighter vs TIE-Wing has the worst minifig line-up of the past five years. :grin: I will die on that hill, lol.)

Seriously. I remember there was a year or two there where sets would leak AND lego would reveal it (or at least allow LAN to cover the leaks? I can't remember) both on thanksgiving.

I'm not going to look through every set, but you might be right. The TIE pilot is somehow the standout. The rebel pilot is re-uses, with the best part of it being a new helmet that while non-canon could fit in as a generic rebel pilot. The droid is a bit colorful and mcdonald's-y to fit into canon, and you have two other OC's who are, at best, usable as generic human civilians- not something we're exactly hurting for.

 

The 18+ leaks are... fine. Not particularly bad, but not very good. I usually give the leaks comedic fake names when I go over them, but I've been staring at them for a good 10 minutes and there's just... nothing. Nothing in particular to make fun of, nothing standing out as good, no figures to joke about... they're just boring.

The AT-AT's a solid model. The head is too wide, but the rest is good. The price feels a bit much, especially for the number of tiny pieces, but that's to be expected from this theme at this point.

The Venator looks great, and at 643 pieces for $80... it's not too bad of a price for the subtheme. Is that 4x4 triangular tile at the rear of the ship new? I don't think I've seen it before.

BB-8 isn't very good. Sure, it's rounder than the 2017 model, but at the expense of most details now being printed- while it's not quite as bad as the kylo ren helmet, it's heavily overreliant on prints. I'm glad that there's some way to get the minifig-compatible BB-8 for kids, but at $90 it's a good thing he's still so cheap on BL.

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I don't see the appeal of a midi scale AT-AT. Capital ships I can kind of understand, but an AT-AT is just unnecessary. There are so many cool playsets they could make in that price range instead.

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1 hour ago, MKJoshA said:

No need to mini-mod

In this instance, where there has been a running bit for over 200 days, posting something in Spanish is not going to get you in trouble. Yes, English is the language we ask people to use on EB. But a joke is a joke, we're not going to knock you for continuing the joke.

Apologies, No offence / min-modding meant!

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Hay que pedir un TIE Vengador en todos los idiomas del mundo para que Lego sepa que todos lo queremos dondequiera que estemos por todo el mundo. Naciones del mundo, únense en fuerte clamor para el Vengador!

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Okay, putting Kylo Ren on the BB-8 box art is cold, given that we aren’t actually getting any system sets on the ST. I guess it being based on the original version that came with the first Command Shuttle confirms there aren’t any plans for any system sequel sets anytime soon.

It is curious though. BD-1 releasing in 2022 wasn’t indicative of any future Jedi sets so they just plonked the Fallen Order logo on the box art in place of the usual source material minifigure.

If we ever get Kylo again, they really need to redesign his helmet and lightsaber. The helmet looks too bulbous as it is, but a combined hood / helmet piece that’s correctly proportioned would be awesome. 

Overall, big meh for the January wave. Happy for all the buildable character and Starship Collection fans but these sets simply don’t interest me on a personal level the way normal system sets do. 

Interestingly, quite a few March sets are also being revealed. I wonder if further details are imminent on what to expect for Star Wars.

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Eh, of course you gonna wait for quite a while only for the least interesting sets getting officially revealed first, but maybe that's for the better. As you immediately get it out of the way and save the best for last. Even if "the best" is more like "less uninteresting" in this scenario. Because to be brutally honest, if it wasn’t for my extreme excitement of Cad Bane, this wave would do next to nothing for me, but yeah... hopefully the rest isn't that far off now.

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The sets all look nice.  I like that then-8 is sized to r2 (I don’t other with the buildable figures but having them scaled the same way is cool).  The Venetor is nice too, looks great makes me want a star destroyer if they can get all the shapes right.  I won’t be buying it but think it’s very good.

the ATAT is a must buy for me, looks awesome, I have not been disappointed with any of the models in the starship line and am happy it’s covering vehicles too.  I would mind the redoing every ship (that cannot be properly done at a reasonable cost and detail in mini figure scale)  in this style from the OT.  My one complaint (outside of prices) is that the don’t have a minifigure.  I think if each came with a minifigure they would be perfect sets.my reason for this is I keep building the starship line and keep being impressed by the builds.  They have become my favorite builds in my display, and it is making it hard to choose which ship to display.  Currently trying to pick between the falcon and one of the playscale ones  from a decade ago.  the AT AT will give me the same issue of which one to display. Would like to see a sandcrawler at some point.  Regardless AT-AT looks great and despite that I think it’s $10 too much will end up paying full price in January for it.

 

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It’s December 1st. Time to use that Christmas magic to our advantage.
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(Day #221)

 

Midis look good. But I agree with @Darth_Bane13. I would just prefer more normal play-sets.

 

Bring on the March/ May/ June news!! As those are what are logically next.

9 hours ago, icm said:

Hay que pedir un TIE Vengador en todos los idiomas del mundo para que Lego sepa que todos lo queremos dondequiera que estemos por todo el mundo. Naciones del mundo, únense en fuerte clamor para el Vengador!

Ita, amice mi. Optime. Linguas mortuas quoque uti debemus ut certi simus.

 

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10 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

It’s December 1st. Time to use that Christmas magic to our advantage.

You should probably get that pen checked out, I think it's using gasoline as ink.

7 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Is that Kylo Ren I see on the packaging? I beg you LEGO, give me more Sequels sets with him.

Unfortunately it's an existing Kylo Ren figure so it doesn't necessarily mean there's more on the horizon.

6 hours ago, Sucram said:

*accurate assessment*

I wasn't going to be the one to put it that bluntly, but yes, you're right. The last one was better.

15 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

If we ever get Kylo again, they really need to redesign his helmet and lightsaber. The helmet looks too bulbous as it is, but a combined hood / helmet piece that’s correctly proportioned would be awesome. 

I get the helmet, but what's wrong with his lightsaber? I can't see a way they'd be able to make it better without dual-molding the hilt and blade into one piece.

12 hours ago, Lordhelmet said:

 My one complaint (outside of prices) is that they don’t have a minifigure.  I think if each came with a minifigure they would be perfect sets.

I think everyone's been thinking this since they came out, it seems like such an obvious slam dunk and I don't fully understand why they won't do it. I know there's a few sets I've been on the edge about (such as the starcruiser at 30% off or the Tantive at 50% off) where an Admiral Ackbar or Princess Leia displayed alongside it could have brought me over the fence into buying the set. And you have to imagine there's a lot of figure collectors who would have POUNCED on a dooku or grievous in the invisible hand (or even the aforementioned Ackbar, our last OT ackbar was in 2013 I think). It would also appeal a bit more to kids, and you'd imagine that all that combined might stop these sets from consistently reaching 40-50% off at retailers, something you used to almost never see with star wars sets. I have to assume that if lego's run the numbers (which I'm sure they have), that $3 or so that adding a minifigure would cost would be more than offset by increased sales (as in purchases) and reduced sales (as in discounts).

The only thing I can think of is that lego's scared adding a minifigure will scare away adults. Which I think is unlikely, but wouldn't put past lego to think.

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2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I get the helmet, but what's wrong with his lightsaber? I can't see a way they'd be able to make it better without dual-molding the hilt and blade into one piece.

The only thing I can think of is that lego's scared adding a minifigure will scare away adults. Which I think is unlikely, but wouldn't put past lego to think.

Personal preference, it would be cool to get a more accurate-looking cross guard lightsaber even if it would be a composite hilt / blade mould. Realistically it likely would end up being oversized anyway. 

Yeah, I do think the omission of minifigures is intended (to at least degree) to help isolate the Starship Collection as premium ‘adult’ collectibles. 

Wish they’d just reveal these January lineups collectively, rather than the piecemeal approach.

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4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think everyone's been thinking this since they came out, it seems like such an obvious slam dunk and I don't fully understand why they won't do it. I know there's a few sets I've been on the edge about (such as the starcruiser at 30% off or the Tantive at 50% off) where an Admiral Ackbar or Princess Leia displayed alongside it could have brought me over the fence into buying the set. And you have to imagine there's a lot of figure collectors who would have POUNCED on a dooku or grievous in the invisible hand (or even the aforementioned Ackbar, our last OT ackbar was in 2013 I think). It would also appeal a bit more to kids, and you'd imagine that all that combined might stop these sets from consistently reaching 40-50% off at retailers, something you used to almost never see with star wars sets. I have to assume that if lego's run the numbers (which I'm sure they have), that $3 or so that adding a minifigure would cost would be more than offset by increased sales (as in purchases) and reduced sales (as in discounts).

The only thing I can think of is that lego's scared adding a minifigure will scare away adults. Which I think is unlikely, but wouldn't put past lego to think.

My guess is that to some extent it might be a budgetary thing. I imagine one of the upsides of the midi scale sets (from Lego's pov) is that they require few-to-no new pieces or recolors, so they're cheaper and less complicated to produce. If the included minifigure was one that is already in production then I imagine it'd be easy enough to throw them in, but in the case of someone like Dooku, who would require entirely new printing for multiple parts, it'd just add to the price of the set. This also kinda ties into what you were saying just from a different angle, which is that while some people who buy the midi scales might like minifigures, I'm sure a lot of them don't care for them or are ambivalent. When you take into account the potential extra cost and the fact that in some ways Lego probably finds it easier to just market these as an entirely distinct line of sets, I do think the decision makes sense, even if it is kinda lame. 

Also if they included exclusive minifigures I'm sure that would end up annoying parts of the LSW fanbase that just want minifig scale sets haha. I think just including minifigures that already appear elsewhere would be neat and is probably the ideal solution, but if they already exist then of course you can always just buy them elsewhere and display them like that yourself, I suppose. 

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I learned recently that TLG has little to say in terms of minifigs. Disney has an exclusive licence with Hasbro on Star Wars figurines and TLG is only allowed to combine characters from Star Wars in "construction sets". That's why we will never get Star Wars CMFs. That's why Disney is so restrictive in terms of character licensing and deployment in sets. That's why there are more and more SW sets without minifigs. It's not the price of the print only, it's the license. I do believe TLG sells a ton of dollars for each character they buy the licence for (it's quite different with Marvel or Harry Potter, btw. where competition on the toy market has no exclusive rights like Hasbro). And even if they want to equip a set with certain characters, Disney has the last say. 

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1 hour ago, Sentinel_Brix said:

I learned recently that TLG has little to say in terms of minifigs. Disney has an exclusive licence with Hasbro on Star Wars figurines and TLG is only allowed to combine characters from Star Wars in "construction sets". That's why we will never get Star Wars CMFs. That's why Disney is so restrictive in terms of character licensing and deployment in sets. That's why there are more and more SW sets without minifigs. It's not the price of the print only, it's the license. I do believe TLG sells a ton of dollars for each character they buy the licence for (it's quite different with Marvel or Harry Potter, btw. where competition on the toy market has no exclusive rights like Hasbro). And even if they want to equip a set with certain characters, Disney has the last say. 

Yeah that goes all the way back when in 2000, way before Disney, TLG attempted to make minifig-only sets with little displays and Hasbro complained to Lucasfilm.

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2 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

Personal preference, it would be cool to get a more accurate-looking cross guard lightsaber even if it would be a composite hilt / blade mould. Realistically it likely would end up being oversized anyway. 

Yeah, I do think the omission of minifigures is intended (to at least degree) to help isolate the Starship Collection as premium ‘adult’ collectibles. 

The increased accuracy could be nice, but I agree that I can't see them finding a way to go a composite blade/hilt mold that wouldn't be oversized.

That makes sense to an extent, but I still wonder about the consistency. The helmets also don't have minfigures, but UCS sets, the statue collection, and of course the dioramas do/did.

1 hour ago, Meaf said:

My guess is that to some extent it might be a budgetary thing. I imagine one of the upsides of the midi scale sets (from Lego's pov) is that they require few-to-no new pieces or recolors, so they're cheaper and less complicated to produce. If the included minifigure was one that is already in production then I imagine it'd be easy enough to throw them in, but in the case of someone like Dooku, who would require entirely new printing for multiple parts, it'd just add to the price of the set. This also kinda ties into what you were saying just from a different angle, which is that while some people who buy the midi scales might like minifigures, I'm sure a lot of them don't care for them or are ambivalent. When you take into account the potential extra cost and the fact that in some ways Lego probably finds it easier to just market these as an entirely distinct line of sets, I do think the decision makes sense, even if it is kinda lame. 

Also if they included exclusive minifigures I'm sure that would end up annoying parts of the LSW fanbase that just want minifig scale sets haha. I think just including minifigures that already appear elsewhere would be neat and is probably the ideal solution, but if they already exist then of course you can always just buy them elsewhere and display them like that yourself, I suppose. 

I assume those are part of it, but given how poorly a lot of this line has done, you'd think they'd recalibrate, especially with the demand for putting minifigs in that we see.

As for exclusive figs, I'm sure it could annoy some people, but from lego's perspective I doubt they'd care much as it's people who wouldn't have bought the set anyway. (And a lot of the complainers probably WILL pick up the set anyway, if social media is anything to go off of). Honestly I never got this complaint. I can understand being frustrated with something like Rex being locked behind a $600+ set, or a limited-time GWP, but the starship collection generally runs at $40-80, which as far as lego goes nowadays is low-to-mid-range for even system sets. 

49 minutes ago, Sentinel_Brix said:

I learned recently that TLG has little to say in terms of minifigs. Disney has an exclusive licence with Hasbro on Star Wars figurines and TLG is only allowed to combine characters from Star Wars in "construction sets". That's why we will never get Star Wars CMFs. That's why Disney is so restrictive in terms of character licensing and deployment in sets. That's why there are more and more SW sets without minifigs. It's not the price of the print only, it's the license. I do believe TLG sells a ton of dollars for each character they buy the licence for (it's quite different with Marvel or Harry Potter, btw. where competition on the toy market has no exclusive rights like Hasbro). And even if they want to equip a set with certain characters, Disney has the last say. 

This has come up before but I still have serious trouble believing star wars pays a license "per character", have we ever seen any reliable information on that? There are two major things that really make me skeptical about it.

1. Advent calendars would be DISGUSTINGLY overpriced, well beyond pretty much any other set, especially assuming that the license isn't specifically due to minifigures (because why would it be?). Similarly, we very often would get battle packs with no repeats, or including a number of named characters despite fan outcry for ones that just included four copies of the same figure. Why would lego not simply do four copies of the same character, since that would then assumably be cheaper?

2. This seems absurdly complicated and almost unenforceable for what constitutes a "different character". Does lego have to pay money for every different color of clone trooper or battle droid? Is lego paying a license for brick-built droids like the GNK droid? How does lego pay for figures like Jedi Bob or the Ackbar trooper who aren't from previous star wars lore but are clearly star wars characters? Would lego pay a seperate license for different outfits of the same character? Take the upcoming clones vs mandalorians battle pack- does lego have to pay once for the male mandalorian and once for the female mandalorian? In that case, would lego have to pay double the rate if they, say, put the tan vest style endor trooper and the green trenchcoat style trooper in the same set? Do the lawyers count generic background characters who technically have names like Nik Sant as seperate from "endor rebel trooper"? For something like the rogue one wave, was lego paying for every unique generic trooper they made, because they were technically different characters? I just can't see them drawing up such a needlessly complicated system rather than "Pay us X rate to make sets" or "we take x% of your profits".

 

 

As a side note, a lot of us are always asking for more playsets/location sets, and I think we're seeing why we don't tend to get that. Aside from the starship collection and the 4+ YJA set, the only sets I've seen hitting 40-50% off both online and around me are all location sets. Right now it's fairly easy to get Peridea, Boarding the Tantive (between this and the starship collection the Tantive's really having a rough time), and Moff Gideon Battle for 40-50% off... which happen to be the three most recent location/playsets. Assumably they just don't do as well with kids as vehicles do.

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The thing about locations is it's more natural to use the everyday locations in your home or school or park as play settings for minifigs or vehicles than it is to use location sets as a play setting for a makeshift vehicle made of a brick (made of clay) or spare parts (made of plastic). Vehicles are complete in and of themselves, while locations are only a small part of a much larger whole. That's my two cents about why vehicles sell better to kids (including me when I was a kid) than locations do.

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5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Right now it's fairly easy to get Peridea, Boarding the Tantive (between this and the starship collection the Tantive's really having a rough time), and Moff Gideon Battle for 40-50% off...

*seethes in british*

 

More good quality images, for the rest of the January sets. 

Bane does indeed have arm printing, and looks brilliant. (Also somehow his face looks more realistic than the one they actually had in The Book of Boba Fett?)

Cobb having grey hair is a choice I wasn't expecting at first (though we knew it from the previous leaks) but it actually doesn't look bad; I guess it made me realise Timothy Olyphant is older than I thought lol. Maybe could've used some dark tan print in his beard. 

Also Cobb Vanth's helmet is the closest we've got so far to having an official RotJ Boba Fett helmet (just with some extra wear marks from the Sarlacc). Hopefully they make that Boba soon- I'm still very annoyed about them putting the ESB one in the skiff last year. 

Shock Trooper mech, Mando speeder bike, and buildable Grogu are all whatever. The mech in particular is a weird choice since you can get the full battle pack with the shock trooper and 3 other clones discounted on Amazon right now for not much more than the mech will cost with just the single trooper. 

As others have said previously I hope we get more sets the size of the speeder, but based on more exciting source material.

The Clone vs Mando battle pack is a bit of a disappointment. The builds are... ok. Random fence and inaccurate speeder but we've definitely had worse in the past. The figures all have good torso and leg prints (if you don't mind the proportions of the animated clone torsos) but the helmets on all 4 of them are pretty bad. The same 332nd ones as we've had before with the big white gaps around the fin (this annoys me more than the holes- GCC can print around the fin just fine with no gaps) and the Mando helmets do indeed have silver visors which I was hoping were just early unfinished batches or something- baffling decision to have it as the final design. 

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BY THE ALMIGHTY MAKER, YES! THE CAD'S NOW COMPLETELY OUT OF THE BAG!! :moar::moar:

 

Seriously, that arm printing just looks glorious on my boyo Bane!! Come to me, you beautiful bastard! I will rip open that plastic or fake paper bag. I will assemble your precious few plastic pieces like it's the last thing I'm gonna do. I will never touch you without wearing some gloves. Then I will cherish you and geeking around in full force, while annoying everyone in the process but myself. As a birthday gift, this will easily be the best minifigure I could ever imagine. Don't mind me right now. Just an extremely excited, overly happy fella over here. :wub_drool:

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