LEGO Star Wars Set Discussion 2025 - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Renny The Spaceman]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

If they'd used the mass from the barricade to bulk up the speeder, they could have had one OK build, but as is they have a subpar speeder and a barricade that looks like it's from 2003.

I really don't get what you all see in that speeder, it's dinky and boxy and I doubt the extra ~ten pieces from that embarrassing barricade build would change it. Like that speeder would be fine for a 10 quid set but despite the price hike with Battlepacks the builds haven't jumped at all and there's the same amount of figures. Like when other sets downsize but the price goes up the thought process is they have so many more little details that bulks up the piece count. Nothing's changed here, Battlepacks are exactly the same but now are 23 quid. 

[ArrowBricks]

I think this January wave is the true representation and result of LEGO doubling down on ‘adults welcome’. As more sets are tailored for adults, LEGO must accommodate for the younger audiences. 

No two ways about it, it’s a poor wave. It’s so far away from the quality LEGO Star Wars can produce. 

It’s not a good look after the disaster of the summer wave. 

[Mandalorianknight]

4 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

You are right. Although harder to notice, even in the selection you can make out a little bit of coloring there. And oh, believe me, being restrained on something you hope for, ain't exactly easy for me. But given it's Lego we are talking about, I only believe it when I see it. But since you were the one who confirmed Cad's existence to me in the first place, it's only natural you are now the one pushing me into the direction of this minifig getting a fair bit of arm printing as well. You are like a prophet of positivity to me. So I grow more confident in this regard by the minute. 

Yeah, he's definitely got arm detaining in some form, whether the color is molded or printed.

I like that prophet of positivity title, especially since I feel like I don't often get to be positive about the direction of the theme. Thanks for that.

4 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

I really don't get what you all see in that speeder, it's dinky and boxy and I doubt the extra ~ten pieces from that embarrassing barricade build would change it. Like that speeder would be fine for a 10 quid set but despite the price hike with Battlepacks the builds haven't jumped at all and there's the same amount of figures. Like when other sets downsize but the price goes up the thought process is they have so many more little details that bulks up the piece count. Nothing's changed here, Battlepacks are exactly the same but now are 23 quid. 

With that I meant less about the part count of the speeder and more the mass of those parts- there's a big plate and grille in there. Yeah, obviously it's gonna be boxy and dinky, but I think another 10-20 parts could make it look just fine for a battle pack build.

I've done the cost analysis before and while battle packs' cost have risen above inflation- especially with this last move from $20-23- how much they've risen really depends on where specifically you draw the line from when they actually had value. Nobody's defending the cost of this set- $23 is egregious- but this speeder isn't anything worse than battle pack builds tend to be. It's just a matter of blaming the pricetag rather than the speeder, because generally people would rather have cheaper battle packs with whatever builds than more expensive ones with more solid builds, because battle packs are about the figures. The speeder looks alright to me, and it's at least trying to represent a canon vehicle which puts it above ~75% of battle packs for me. I don't want the speeder to be bigger, I want the battle pack to be cheaper. And for it to be 4 mandos instead of those jackolantern wearing 501st.

56 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said:

I think this January wave is the true representation and result of LEGO doubling down on ‘adults welcome’. As more sets are tailored for adults, LEGO must accommodate for the younger audiences. 

No two ways about it, it’s a poor wave. It’s so far away from the quality LEGO Star Wars can produce. 

It’s not a good look after the disaster of the summer wave. 

Always good to see you pop up on the forum, wish it was under better circumstances.

I agree. And it's only going to get worse with the smart wave in march, which may be the least popular wave in recent history since there won't even be any marketable clones or mandalorians for people to complain about and them army build anyway. But it's not like OT fans are going to want minifigures and sets with electronics stuffed inside them, so nobody'll be happy.

[Darth_Bane13]

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Too close to call. You're right that it looks different, but looking at Cad's- which I'm pretty confident is the normal pistol- in the minifigure box render, I could also see it just being at a weird angle in the Mando picture. Could go either way., though I'd be surprised if they made a longer one with no scope, as it'd be a lot closer to a real firearm. I always assumed lego swapped the old pistol mold out for the 2011 one both for design language consistency with the medium and long blasters, but also to make it as cartoonishly sci-fi as possible.

It's also possible it's the hose end piece, I think they've used that for Mando before once or twice, and it is indeed longer than the 2011 pistol with no scope.

The old pistols were perfect for DC-17's.

1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said:

I think this January wave is the true representation and result of LEGO doubling down on ‘adults welcome’. As more sets are tailored for adults, LEGO must accommodate for the younger audiences. 

No two ways about it, it’s a poor wave. It’s so far away from the quality LEGO Star Wars can produce. 

It’s not a good look after the disaster of the summer wave. 

It's actually crazy how far LSW has fallen, I was looking back at some old winter waves and literally every single set was good. Now I skip entire waves completely.

[ArrowBricks]

58 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I agree. And it's only going to get worse with the smart wave in march, which may be the least popular wave in recent history since there won't even be any marketable clones or mandalorians for people to complain about and them army build anyway. But it's not like OT fans are going to want minifigures and sets with electronics stuffed inside them, so nobody'll be happy.

The development of smart brick sets only strengthens my argument. Perhaps it’s disingenuous not to have mentioned the Mando movie wave - you’d imagine a lot of the budget has gone into those! 

 

25 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

It's actually crazy how far LSW has fallen, I was looking back at some old winter waves and literally every single set was good. Now I skip entire waves completely.

In isolation, this wave is missing 3 key/core sets, flagship style sets relative to the expected price point of January waves. The sets aren’t the worst when assessing each set individually, but as a collective there’s nothing binding it together. The engine fails to start. 

Granted, in today’s LSW world there are more sets spread across the year, creating more waves. So it’s hard to compare like for like, however I agree with the sentiment completely. 

[Renny The Spaceman]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

With that I meant less about the part count of the speeder and more the mass of those parts- there's a big plate and grille in there. Yeah, obviously it's gonna be boxy and dinky, but I think another 10-20 parts could make it look just fine for a battle pack build.

I've done the cost analysis before and while battle packs' cost have risen above inflation- especially with this last move from $20-23- how much they've risen really depends on where specifically you draw the line from when they actually had value. Nobody's defending the cost of this set- $23 is egregious- but this speeder isn't anything worse than battle pack builds tend to be. It's just a matter of blaming the pricetag rather than the speeder, because generally people would rather have cheaper battle packs with whatever builds than more expensive ones with more solid builds, because battle packs are about the figures. The speeder looks alright to me, and it's at least trying to represent a canon vehicle which puts it above ~75% of battle packs for me. I don't want the speeder to be bigger, I want the battle pack to be cheaper. And for it to be 4 mandos instead of those jackolantern wearing 501st.

I know everyone would rather have battlepacks be cheaper and keep the crap builds but the price is locked by the higher-ups before the builds, they can't change the price and they won't add more minifigures so the builds should at least be baseline competent for their price tag. I don't buy them so maybe I'm the wrong person to ask but if you look at the builds of say the 501st pack that had builds that felt like a over 20 quid value even if they're lame. The way Battlepacks used to be they gave a build that could be sold with one figure for it's price point and make sense. The big issue with the modern "cheap" ones is they still have builds for 10 quid sets. The price won't come down but literally nothing is added relative to Battlepacks of the past, that's why the build is worth critiquing it's one of the most blatant price gouging examples with this theme.

As for the specific speeder, like I'm sure it could be a fine build with more parts in a 20 quid set but like a lot of people here are saying that the speeder build to begin with is good and it's a big whiplash with the shitty fence when both feel like they're pretty embarrassing builds. 

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

The old pistols were perfect for DC-17's.

It's actually crazy how far LSW has fallen, I was looking back at some old winter waves and literally every single set was good. Now I skip entire waves completely.

They were, but my guess would be they were discontinued both to retain that lego aesthetic across the 3 main SW blasters and because they thought it looked too similar to modern firearms. (I don't agree, but I don't see any other reasons for them to discontinue it and then give the replacement a gargantuan scope)

It's officially been over a year since the last lego star wars set I bought*, with the last being the rebel speeder vs imperial dropship remake. With the speeder having a generic mando rather than the UCS one and being a disappointing build, as well as the march wave- including what would be my first TIE advanced- being hit in the knees with a lead pipe by smart bricks, it doesn't seem likely to change anytime soon. 

*Not counting the two heavily clearanced skeleton crew ships that I bought, sold the figs, and just had the ~2600 parts for essentially net profit.

1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said:

The development of smart brick sets only strengthens my argument. Perhaps it’s disingenuous not to have mentioned the Mando movie wave - you’d imagine a lot of the budget has gone into those! 

 

In isolation, this wave is missing 3 key/core sets, flagship style sets relative to the expected price point of January waves. The sets aren’t the worst when assessing each set individually, but as a collective there’s nothing binding it together. The engine fails to start. 

Granted, in today’s LSW world there are more sets spread across the year, creating more waves. So it’s hard to compare like for like, however I agree with the sentiment completely. 

That is true, and hopefully those will be the bright spot for 1HY.

 

Yup. There's nothing larger than $35 besides the 18+ gimmicks, and even that $35 set is a good $10-15 overpriced. It's only the lower half of a wave, and not particularly strong contenders either.

This is true to some extent, and with the "smart" march wave we do end up getting more sets this 1HY than in the past, but... they're "smart" sets. It might be a win on paper, but it won't be in practice.

40 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

I know everyone would rather have battlepacks be cheaper and keep the crap builds but the price is locked by the higher-ups before the builds, they can't change the price and they won't add more minifigures so the builds should at least be baseline competent for their price tag. I don't buy them so maybe I'm the wrong person to ask but if you look at the builds of say the 501st pack that had builds that felt like a over 20 quid value even if they're lame. The way Battlepacks used to be they gave a build that could be sold with one figure for it's price point and make sense. The big issue with the modern "cheap" ones is they still have builds for 10 quid sets. The price won't come down but literally nothing is added relative to Battlepacks of the past, that's why the build is worth critiquing it's one of the most blatant price gouging examples with this theme.

As for the specific speeder, like I'm sure it could be a fine build with more parts in a 20 quid set but like a lot of people here are saying that the speeder build to begin with is good and it's a big whiplash with the shitty fence when both feel like they're pretty embarrassing builds. 

But even in that scenario, when lego ups the price they aren't simultaneously upping what the designers have to work with. That would be more comparable to the 501st pack, or the coruscant pack, which were at higher price points than even contemporary battle packs, much less the ones releasing at that time. (The 501st pack was double the cost of a normal one at release, the coruscant pack 50% more, the 327th pack almost double the current "normal" BP cost) The battle packs themselves have remained consistent just with the price going higher- lego's designers aren't being given more to work with, lego's just increasing the price to account for inflation or because they think people will pay more. Microfighters have gone up in cost 50% since launch but they're the same size. You can't really blame the designer for Plo Koon's starfighter not being 50% larger than boba's slave one microfighter, because even though it's more expensive, it's still the "microfighter price point" so to speak, lego's just increasing the price to reflect what they think they can sell a build of that type for.

Don't get me wrong, there are certainly sets the designers mess up on. But complaining that the speeder isn't an improvement from previous battle packs when it's highly unlikely the designers are being given more value to work with than in previous battle packs just isn't fair IMO, it's not something within their control. 

Edited November 13 by Mandalorianknight

[Darth_Bane13]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

They were, but my guess would be they were discontinued both to retain that lego aesthetic across the 3 main SW blasters and because they thought it looked too similar to modern firearms. (I don't agree, but I don't see any other reasons for them to discontinue it and then give the replacement a gargantuan scope)

It's also worth noting the old DC-17's were made from the same type of of plastic as the kama's and pauldrons and they would come in a pack together. In 2012 they switched to cloth pauldrons and kama's (ARC trooper) so they would've had to make a new mold for it, since we got the scope blaster in 2011 they probably figured that was good enough. Interestingly 2011 sets still used the old DC-17 for Rex and Cody, probably because it came in the pack anyway. 

[Renny The Spaceman]

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Don't get me wrong, there are certainly sets the designers mess up on. But complaining that the speeder isn't an improvement from previous battle packs when it's highly unlikely the designers are being given more value to work with than in previous battle packs just isn't fair IMO, it's not something within their control. 

I think you misunderstood, I'm not blaming the designer, I rarely do as these issues are from higher up. This is an issue with the money people raising Battlepacks price, like everything else but unlike everything else they don't even bother to try make it look like it could be worth the money it goes for, it's an issue above the pay grade of the designer, but it's still an issue. Like I don't really see how someone can value Battlepacks for the over 20 quid they go for now when they just don't justify being more expensive than any past ones at all. When sets get downsized normally they have more details now, Jedi Starfighters add a third figure, there's some arithmetic you can do to justify it. Battlepacks and Microfighters just constantly climb in price and change nothing about how they're made. LEGO could afford to at least make the builds something not immediately thrown away and never thought about again (which really shouldn't be the mindset for a LEGO set) but they don't because they don't need too. 

 

Edited November 14 by Renny The Spaceman

[CallumPears]

9 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

It's also worth noting the old DC-17's were made from the same type of of plastic as the kama's and pauldrons and they would come in a pack together. In 2012 they switched to cloth pauldrons and kama's (ARC trooper) so they would've had to make a new mold for it, since we got the scope blaster in 2011 they probably figured that was good enough. Interestingly 2011 sets still used the old DC-17 for Rex and Cody, probably because it came in the pack anyway. 

I hate when they use that soft plastic for hand-held accessories. 

They immediately get scratched and sometimes barely fit into a figure's hand at all (I usually put a regular bar piece in the figure's hand first to stretch it a bit so that the softer part will fit in better). 

Various sword designs, the bow and arrow, the fancy LotR spears, those old DC-17 pistols...

And recently they've switched out some parts which used to be made of hard plastic for the crappy soft stuff. The modern small pistols we're talking about now? They were hard plastic but as of 2023 (I think the first set was the 501st Specialists pack) they are soft. The macrobinoculars? Introduced all the way back in 1999 with hard plastic, but since 2024 (I think it was the bigger clones vs droids pack, though I didn't buy many sets in 2023/2024 so might've been earlier) those are soft now too.

Idk if it's cheaper or something but it just feels like such an unnecessary downgrade in terms of both durability and usability (since they get scratched easier and are harder to put in a figure's hand). 

Edited November 14 by CallumPears

[Mandalorianknight]

13 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

It's also worth noting the old DC-17's were made from the same type of of plastic as the kama's and pauldrons and they would come in a pack together. In 2012 they switched to cloth pauldrons and kama's (ARC trooper) so they would've had to make a new mold for it, since we got the scope blaster in 2011 they probably figured that was good enough. Interestingly 2011 sets still used the old DC-17 for Rex and Cody, probably because it came in the pack anyway. 

That's also a good point. 

7 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

I think you misunderstood, I'm not blaming the designer, I rarely do as these issues are from higher up. This is an issue with the money people raising Battlepacks price, like everything else but unlike everything else they don't even bother to try make it look like it could be worth the money it goes for, it's an issue above the pay grade of the designer, but it's still an issue. Like I don't really see how someone can value Battlepacks for the over 20 quid they go for now when they just don't justify being more expensive than any past ones at all. When sets get downsized normally they have more details now, Jedi Starfighters add a third figure, there's some arithmetic you can do to justify it. Battlepacks and Microfighters just constantly climb in price and change nothing about how they're made. LEGO could afford to at least make the builds something not immediately thrown away and never thought about again (which really shouldn't be the mindset for a LEGO set) but they don't because they don't need too. 

I feel like this is moving away from your original question, which was that you didn't get why people weren't more upset about the speeder. The answer to that is that the price of the set and why people are upset really has nothing to do with the speeder, or battle pack builds in general. Battle packs get more expensive. Microfighters get more expensive. The Mechs got more expensive in the short time they've been around. System sets are harder to draw as direct of comparisons to (Like for example, Obi-Wan's starfighter in 2022 had 3 figs for $30, but Yoda's had two for $35, so the "jedi starfighters add a third figure" thing is kind of hurt by that- and even then with the two recent ones with 3 figs, the 2025 starfighter was more expensive than the 2024 one with fewer pieces. The issue for most people isn't that Ahsoka's starfighter needed to be larger, it's that $45 is just too high a price point for a jedi starfighter.) because they're rarely meant to be the exact same thing and it's hard to directly say what's meant to be at the same exact price point like it is for the gimmick sublines, but even then we have plenty of cases where something is a higher price for a similar build and number of figures.

If you don't get why people aren't upset that the speeder isn't... I dunno, larger than other standard battle pack builds? (It's pretty consistent build quality/size with the last few $20/23 battle packs), I'm telling you it's the same reason people aren't upset that the Plo microfighter isn't larger, or that the Maul Mech isn't bigger, or whatever. It's just a battle pack build, and it's not anything egregiously out-of-place like the barricade. People would rather have the set be cheaper than have it be larger, because it's a battle pack. You could make a $50 battle pack where the speeder is 600 pieces and good value for lego, but I think most people would prefer just a $20 or $15 battle pack with fewe/smaller builds because battle packs are about the minifigures. Just like microfighters are supposed to be small (and a cheap way to get a desirable minifigure).

4 hours ago, CallumPears said:

And recently they've switched out some parts which used to be made of hard plastic for the crappy soft stuff. The modern small pistols we're talking about now? They were hard plastic but as of 2023 (I think the first set was the 501st Specialists pack) they are soft. The macrobinoculars? Introduced all the way back in 1999 with hard plastic, but since 2024 (I think it was the bigger clones vs droids pack, though I didn't buy many sets in 2023/2024 so might've been earlier) those are soft now too.

Idk if it's cheaper or something but it just feels like such an unnecessary downgrade in terms of both durability and usability (since they get scratched easier and are harder to put in a figure's hand). 

Is this true? I hadn't noticed if so. 

[CloneCommando99]

On 11/13/2025 at 2:53 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm impressed you can keep track of them after so many days. Good quote.

“How we choose to fight is just as important as what we fight for” - Ezra Bridger

I will not fall into the repetitive memes and slop that the clone campaigners succumbed to. Each day will be something different.

(Day #204 of the Tie Avenger rebellion)

 

On 11/13/2025 at 7:49 PM, ArrowBricks said:

I think this January wave is the true representation and result of LEGO doubling down on ‘adults welcome’. As more sets are tailored for adults, LEGO must accommodate for the younger audiences. 

No two ways about it, it’s a poor wave. It’s so far away from the quality LEGO Star Wars can produce. 

It’s not a good look after the disaster of the summer wave. 

On 11/13/2025 at 8:57 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

Always good to see you pop up on the forum, wish it was under better circumstances.

I agree. And it's only going to get worse with the smart wave in march, which may be the least popular wave in recent history since there won't even be any marketable clones or mandalorians for people to complain about and them army build anyway. But it's not like OT fans are going to want minifigures and sets with electronics stuffed inside them, so nobody'll be happy.

On 11/13/2025 at 9:30 PM, Darth_Bane13 said:

It's actually crazy how far LSW has fallen, I was looking back at some old winter waves and literally every single set was good. Now I skip entire waves completely.

Don’t worry guys. Things will get better. It’s always darkest before the dawn.

2027 is practically guaranteed to bring in some good sets. They can’t mess up entirely on the 50th Anniversary of SW, with a movie releasing no less.

Edited November 16 by CloneCommando99

[Kaijumeister]

Gotta be honest, this strikes me as a nothingburger of a wave. The introduction of £9 sets is most welcome (and frankly, I would much rather have these than mechs and microfighters) and Cobb’s speeder looks like a good purchase on discount, but it says a lot that the new package design genuinely feels like the highlight of this wave of sets.

I feel like Star Wars has reached a point where the fairly wide spread of waves throughout the year means that the early year waves feel somewhat hollow, disparate, and almost like a tickbox exercise. We’ve become accustomed to almost entirely overlooking early-year set lineups in the hopes that the summer waves are worth the wait.

Hopefully the rest of the year’s sets will be worth the wait, and I’m sure some of them will be, but it would be nice if winter waves actually felt exciting and substantial again. The last time that truly felt the case was 2020.

On a more positive note, it is nice to get some sets that are essentially based on the Season 2 premiere episode of The Mandalorian. That episode felt truly cinematic. I also echo that it does look like Mando and Cobb have new blaster pieces, although it could just be a matter of angles and the poor image quality.

I’m also surprised to see the Grogu mould being reused despite the rumours of the UCS N-1 introducing a new mould for him. I suspect the updated Grogu mould will debut with the TMaG sets. 

Edited November 14 by Kaijumeister

[Renny The Spaceman]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I feel like this is moving away from your original question, which was that you didn't get why people weren't more upset about the speeder. The answer to that is that the price of the set and why people are upset really has nothing to do with the speeder, or battle pack builds in general. Battle packs get more expensive. Microfighters get more expensive. The Mechs got more expensive in the short time they've been around. System sets are harder to draw as direct of comparisons to (Like for example, Obi-Wan's starfighter in 2022 had 3 figs for $30, but Yoda's had two for $35, so the "jedi starfighters add a third figure" thing is kind of hurt by that- and even then with the two recent ones with 3 figs, the 2025 starfighter was more expensive than the 2024 one with fewer pieces. The issue for most people isn't that Ahsoka's starfighter needed to be larger, it's that $45 is just too high a price point for a jedi starfighter.) because they're rarely meant to be the exact same thing and it's hard to directly say what's meant to be at the same exact price point like it is for the gimmick sublines, but even then we have plenty of cases where something is a higher price for a similar build and number of figures.

If you don't get why people aren't upset that the speeder isn't... I dunno, larger than other standard battle pack builds? (It's pretty consistent build quality/size with the last few $20/23 battle packs), I'm telling you it's the same reason people aren't upset that the Plo microfighter isn't larger, or that the Maul Mech isn't bigger, or whatever. It's just a battle pack build, and it's not anything egregiously out-of-place like the barricade. People would rather have the set be cheaper than have it be larger, because it's a battle pack. You could make a $50 battle pack where the speeder is 600 pieces and good value for lego, but I think most people would prefer just a $20 or $15 battle pack with fewe/smaller builds because battle packs are about the minifigures. Just like microfighters are supposed to be small (and a cheap way to get a desirable minifigure).

Thank you for telling me what my original point was, unfortunately you got it wrong. My original point was I was confused why people here keep saying the speeder build was notably good, I get why people don't care, battlepacks are just about the figures. I know people would rather they be cheaper all together but they won't be, they sell at 23 so they'll stay there until they can be bumped up again. BUT what I'm saying here is when they do upscaled battlepacks (which now are often closer in price to current normal battlepacks than pre-501st ones) the builds generally meet what'd be expected from that price point if they didn't have a bunch of figures. I'm not arguing people should want bigger battlepacks with better builds but I'm saying it's not discussed that they're selling what would be builds in 10 dollar sets for double that without having changed anything. People go "battlepack builds are filler" and don't think about it but most battlepacks throughout their history have had sets that'd feasibly have the same price if it was like the same build with just one or two named characters. It's an interesting element of modern LEGO poor pricing not discussed because these sets are designed for people who just want the figs. 

[Tariq j]

23 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

I think this January wave is the true representation and result of LEGO doubling down on ‘adults welcome’. As more sets are tailored for adults, LEGO must accommodate for the younger audiences. 

No two ways about it, it’s a poor wave. It’s so far away from the quality LEGO Star Wars can produce. 

It’s not a good look after the disaster of the summer wave. 

Yeah there’s nothing really amazing about these sets. Nothing that makes you look at them and think “wow! I have to get that on Day 1”. I’ve been thinking back to sets like the Vader/Anakin transformation chamber, the carbonate freezing chamber, the old Desert Skiff or the Grievous wheel bike. They were all small sets but they were just so much better. 

[Darth_Bane13]

3 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

People go "battlepack builds are filler" and don't think about it but most battlepacks throughout their history have had sets that'd feasibly have the same price if it was like the same build with just one or two named characters. It's an interesting element of modern LEGO poor pricing not discussed because these sets are designed for people who just want the figs. 

Yeah most of the old battlepack builds were legitimately good, often canon builds, 2010 hoth BPs, 2011 Barc speeder, 2012 Endor speeder. You could throw these on your shelf and they'd just look like nice small sets. Modern BP builds end up looking like micro fighters which are ugly and useless.

[Mandalorianknight]

5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

“How we choose to fight is just as important as what we fight for” - Ezra Bridger

I will not fall into the repetitive memes and slop that the clone campaigners succumbed to. Each day will be something different.

 

Don’t worry guys. Things will get better. It’s always darkest before the dawn.

2027 is practically guaranteed to bring in some good sets. They can’t mess up entirely on the 50th Anniversary of SW, with a movie releasing no less.

Inspiring.

When the march wave gets revealed, if it really is all compromised smart slop, you should use "if we can't protect the theme you can be damn well sure we'll tie avenge it"

 

I would have agreed as recently as a month ago, but unfortunately, from the march wave figures we know it's mostly OT sets, and stuff that would have been perfect for 2027 definitive editions (TIE Advanced and X-wing reliably leaked, Greedo heavily implying a cantina, and I'd be confident of a Snowspeeder and Millenium Falcon as the other two sets as well). Now they could celebrate the saga as a whole rather than the movie that started it all (which personally I don't think would be all that interesting- "sets based on every era" is generally how the theme goes, or at least is supposed to, and unlike the theme anniversaries film anniversaries tend to be more about what sets get released than exclusive celebration figures.), but as-is the most I'm willing to hope for right now is a new UCS Tantive IV.

5 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

Gotta be honest, this strikes me as a nothingburger of a wave. The introduction of £9 sets is most welcome (and frankly, I would much rather have these than mechs and microfighters) and Cobb’s speeder looks like a good purchase on discount, but it says a lot that the new package design genuinely feels like the highlight of this wave of sets.

On a more positive note, it is nice to get some sets that are essentially based on the Season 2 premiere episode of The Mandalorian. That episode felt truly cinematic. I also echo that it does look like Mando and Cobb have new blaster pieces, although it could just be a matter of angles and the poor image quality.

Yup. The $10 sets are great in concept but this one's a nothingburger. The package design really does feel like the highlight.

That's a good point. Assumably it's in part due to the movie tie-in, but is this the first time they've gone back and done sets for a disney+ show that weren't immediately developed after the series aired? I think with all the other ones we only got sets before/around the time of release, or 1-1.5 years later where they assumably put it into development right after the show came out. I think this is the first time they've reached back this far for something from disney+, which is good news.

36 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Yeah most of the old battlepack builds were legitimately good, often canon builds, 2010 hoth BPs, 2011 Barc speeder, 2012 Endor speeder. You could throw these on your shelf and they'd just look like nice small sets. Modern BP builds end up looking like micro fighters which are ugly and useless.

I don't know that that's necessarily true. It depends on where your cutoff is for "old" vs "new" battle packs, but there's plenty of completely non-canon BPs from that era (from their introduction to 2012, we have the clone two-seat walker, assassin droid speeder, the original clone and droid battle pack builds, even the now-iconic-to-LSW rebel scout speeder and imperial dropship, as well as the canon-but-microfighterized AV-7). 

If you prefer non-canon builds to downsized canon ones, then if we're only looking at the $10-23 BP price point the old ones are probably better in that case. But if we're looking at canon, the new battle packs have done a much better job at at least trying to represent stuff we actually see on screen. Depending on whether or not you want to count stuff like barricades and generic terrain as non-canon, we haven't seen a non-canon build in a battle pack since... 2019, maybe, with the inferno squad speeder? 2020 for what I assume was a non-canon colo scheme of the FO snowspeeder?

[Darth_Bane13]

54 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

If you prefer non-canon builds to downsized canon ones, then if we're only looking at the $10-23 BP price point the old ones are probably better in that case. But if we're looking at canon, the new battle packs have done a much better job at at least trying to represent stuff we actually see on screen. Depending on whether or not you want to count stuff like barricades and generic terrain as non-canon, we haven't seen a non-canon build in a battle pack since... 2019, maybe, with the inferno squad speeder? 2020 for what I assume was a non-canon colo scheme of the FO snowspeeder?

I would actually prefer non canon builds to downsized canon ones. The ideal for me is minifig scale canon builds though.

[CloneCommando99]

I am Clone Lantern Commandus, Duke of Tie Avenger! The Hand of the Emperor be my witness, I am the voice of the Andor sets. I will lead you to PARADISE! /s

(Day #205 of making the campaign flow)

On 11/14/2025 at 9:39 PM, Darth_Bane13 said:

Yeah most of the old battlepack builds were legitimately good, often canon builds, 2010 hoth BPs, 2011 Barc speeder, 2012 Endor speeder. You could throw these on your shelf and they'd just look like nice small sets. Modern BP builds end up looking like micro fighters which are ugly and useless.

That’s why it’s so annoying that they didn’t take advantage of Andor Imperial Army Toopers. The patrol speeder is just the perfect battlepack build.

 

On another note, the amount of different Lego sets in this official video and the larger quantity of products featured over other brands is kinda crazy since it shows how integral Lego has become to the overall SW brand.

Also they said Legos. Billions must die./s

Edited November 16 by CloneCommando99

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I will lead you to PARADISE! /s

So you will lead us to hell? Not very nice of you  Unless that‘s where the TIE Avenger is hiding from us!!

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Also they said Legos. Billions must die./s

Remove the /s. We must punish the heretics.

[BrickPrick]

On 11/13/2025 at 9:57 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

Yeah, he's definitely got arm detaining in some form, whether the color is molded or printed.

I like that prophet of positivity title, especially since I feel like I don't often get to be positive about the direction of the theme. Thanks for that.

Again, I'm gonna hold you to that. 

No problem, Mando man. You reap what you sow. Your constructive criticism of the theme as a whole is justified and this title obviously isn't meant to take anything away from it, as one thing doesn't need to rule out the other. It's merely a nice change of pace, I suppose. Just personally thought it was very fitting. 

 

In isolation, I like the new Mando boxart. However, I do think it heavily clashes with the more bland Tatooine backgrounds and, in the case of Cobb Vanth's Speeder, a more vibrant set itself. I dunno, I can't quite wrap my head around it... The astehtics sorta have this cheap quality to it. 

In terms of the worth of waves, there are now just so many tiny ones scattered throughout the year that I find it hard to compare them to the less, but much bigger waves from old days. And even if you are to merge, say, the January and March waves into one, it still feels different due to all these non system scale sets. 

I've always got enough brand new sets, as well as older stuff to catch up to, on a yearly basis. So I don't care too much about the exact timing of the more worthwhile sets.

Edited November 15 by BrickPrick

[CallumPears]

On 11/14/2025 at 4:19 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

Is this true? I hadn't noticed if so. 

It's certainly been a thing in all the sets I've bought since I started noticing it a couple of years ago (most recent for me would be the Kamino Training GWP). I've been keeping the new pistols separate and replacing them with the older ones since I have a huge bag of spares from imperial officers and pilots who I don't usually keep with the blasters. 

Could be a Europe vs America thing maybe? 

Edited November 15 by CallumPears

[Renny The Spaceman]

17 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I would actually prefer non canon builds to downsized canon ones. The ideal for me is minifig scale canon builds though.

Yeah, I don't really mind as long as it's a build that's fair for the price, if most people don't bother with the build there's no point in trying to bend something canon to fit a scale it doesn't work in, just make it something nice. You're right when they do both like with the Barc Speeder it's best

1 hour ago, BrickPrick said:

In isolation, I like the new Mando boxart. However, I do think it heavily clashes with the more bland Tatooine backgrounds and, in the case of Cobb Vanth's Speeder, a more vibrant set itself. I dunno, I can't quite wrap my head around it... The astehtics sorta have this cheap quality to it. 

I can kinda see that, wonder if part of it for you is it going for the older box style of just being a banner on top rather than a design that wraps around like they've had for the past 4 years or so

1 hour ago, BrickPrick said:

In terms of the worth of waves, there are now just so many tiny ones scattered throughout the year that I find it hard to compare them to the less, but much bigger waves from old days. And even if you are to merge, say, the January and March waves into one, it still feels different due to all these non system scale sets. 

I've always got enough brand new sets, as well as older stuff to catch up to, on a yearly basis. So I don't care too much about the exact timing of the more worthwhile sets.

Yeah, it's not unified like it used to be, there's so many different sub lines for different demos it's really only as a year as a whole you can view it as a strong collective rather than when it was just 2 or 3 (if a movie was coming out) distinct waves with a UCS set in May. Like in the first half it's 2 Mando sets and a battlepack and that's it for regular, minifigure scale, play sets with no gimmicks.

8 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

On another note, the amount of different Lego sets in this official video and the larger quantity of products featured over other brands is kinda crazy since it shows how integral Lego has become to the overall SW brand.

Funny selection of Stars. 3 Andor actors, a director/co-showrunner of Mando, the lead of their biggest show and upcoming movie, Ashoka's lead and poor Tem who's not allowed to do anything but ADR throwaway dialogue for clone cameos because the Boba Fett show wasn't popular

7 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Remove the /s. We must punish the heretics.

Denmark has fallen, billions must be disassembled

[BrickPrick]

1 hour ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

I can kinda see that, wonder if part of it for you is it going for the older box style of just being a banner on top rather than a design that wraps around like they've had for the past 4 years or so

Yeah, it's not unified like it used to be, there's so many different sub lines for different demos it's really only as a year as a whole you can view it as a strong collective rather than when it was just 2 or 3 (if a movie was coming out) distinct waves with a UCS set in May. Like in the first half it's 2 Mando sets and a battlepack and that's it for regular, minifigure scale, play sets with no gimmicks.

Yes, that's it, the difference in design was messing a bit with my inner eye. Contrary to the slick stripe brought forward in 2022, not at all inspired by The Black Series, the returning top banner results in a more disjointed look on the package. At least when the coloring differs this drastically. Upon further inspection, the Cobb Vanth's Speeder boxart actually looks pretty wild. 

Yeah, it's just all over the place at this point. Of course, more than ever Star Wars sub-themes releasing a couple of months apart means more spreading out sets, which I can totally get behind. All those shows and movies are obviously on Disney and out of Lego's control. It's just these additional Lego Star Wars sub-themes which take things to a whole new level that I can definitely do without. But like I said, since I never run out of sets to get later on, the drought between waves doesn't bother me too much. But I can see the frustration for an omnipresent Lego Star Wars-only fan. 

Edited November 15 by BrickPrick

[Mandalorianknight]

10 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I am Clone Lantern Commandus, Duke of Tie Avenger! The Hand of the Emperor be my witness, I am the voice of the Andor sets. I will lead you to PARADISE! /s

(Day #206 of making the campaign flow)

That’s why it’s so annoying that they didn’t take advantage of Andor Imperial Army Toopers. The patrol speeder is just the perfect battlepack build.

On another note, the amount of different Lego sets in this official video and the larger quantity of products featured over other brands is kinda crazy since it shows how integral Lego has become to the overall SW brand.

Another excellent one. I do find the /s funny, I like the idea that you've got Fedaykin fighters and you have to put the /s otherwise they're gonna storm the imperium for the TIE Avenger.

Yup, and it's an andor set that would have wide appeal outside the show, being a battle pack with stormtroopers and another generic-ish imperial trooper. The base imperial grunt in a lot of legends and a trooper type that's appeared in everything from Solo to, well, Andor.

It's an interesting shift, especially because Action Figures have been hit pretty hard by the digitization of kids and now are mainly targeted towards adults. I would say lego's probably become the premiere form of star wars mech, followed by Hasbro and Funko. (Hasbro split into some kid-oriented figures and the collector-focused stuff like Black Series/Vintage Collection) And the rumor is Funko won't be around much longer. (Which, I know a lot of people are cheering on that, but while I only have a couple, I did appreciate that there was always a funko for a character even if they didn't have a lego figure.)

3 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

No problem, Mando man. You reap what you sow. Your constricted criticism of the theme as a whole is justified and this title obviously isn't meant to take anything away from it, as one thing doesn't need to rule out the other. It's merely a nice change of pace, I suppose. Just personally thought it was very fitting. 

Thank you, I appreciate it.

2 hours ago, CallumPears said:

It's certainly been a thing in all the sets I've bought since I started noticing it a couple of years ago (most recent for me would be the Kamino Training GWP). I've been keeping the new pistols separate and replacing them with the older ones since I have a huge bag of spares from imperial officers and pilots who I don't usually keep with the blasters. 

Could be a Europe vs America thing maybe? 

No idea- I don't doubt you, it's just not something I'd heard before. I haven't noticed it myself, but I know people say the CMF figs are made of a different plastic and I can't tell that either. Only ones I can tell apart are the plants-from-plants plastic and the soft plastic they used for stuff like the kamas and pauldrons. (And I mean, obviously stuff like cloth or vinyl or rubber)

That's possible. I know a lot of people are also saying the polybags are paper now and that the bags inside the sets are as well, and I haven't seen that yet. (Though I can't speak as much to the sets inside the bags as I've bought one new set this year and it wasn't even star wars.)

My Walmart's got the pre-christmas-season sales up right now, and it is a little disheartening to see what they think they need to get rid of. Some stuff I could've told you would be on deep discount this early, like the logo or 327th pack, but all three of this year's $60-70 ships, what most people have considered the best of the year, are on significant discount as well. And yet the turbo tank hasn't hit discount yet. (Though for that one I think they may just let the larger sets sit longer before trying to discount them- we've had a full set of Dark Falcons sitting here since release and they've just now started to drop the price.)

19 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I would actually prefer non canon builds to downsized canon ones. The ideal for me is minifig scale canon builds though.

That's fair, I prefer the latter to the former but I get where you're coming from. And I share the ideal.

Where do things like terrain or emplacements factor in for you? I personally consider stuff like that more-or-less canon, as even though that specific configuration of rocks may not have shown up onscreen, it's not like an explicitly made-up vehicle. (Which does, unfortunately, place the barricade at a high tier for me, though I maintain regardless of that it looks like absolute garbage.)