Zap Rowsdower Posted October 21 Posted October 21 13 minutes ago, Swordy said: “Smart” X-Wing: “smart” pilot Luke, ”Smart” TIE Advanced: “smart” Vader, “smart” Palpatine, (Honestly these two could just as easily slide into the “Smart” X-Wing, but I’ll assume that the current word about the Advanced set is true.) ”Smart” Cantina: “smart” Han Solo, “smart” Chewbacca, “smart” Greedo, “smart” Farmboy Luke, ”Smart” Dagobah: “smart” Luke in Training, “smart” Yoda. Something still feels fishy. We know the "Smart" X-wing is about $90. That's a $40 markup from the previous version, presumably to account for the smart features. So why is the TIE Advanced a relatively reasonable $60? Especially if it accommodates two smart features? I'm wondering if the X-wing will include some significant side build or a second ship. Do we know the cost and set numbers of the other "smart" sets? Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted October 21 Posted October 21 7 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said: See, I wonder if it is the best sellers are always the core OT vehicles (X-Wing, TIE, Falcon, Snowspeeder, etc) but the other downstream OT sets like A-wings, the 68 different pointy TIEs, the Rebel and Stormy battlepacks don't do as well as Mando/Clone shit. So when LEGO does something risky they start with the safest bets but in a regular wave there's always an X-Wing/Falcon, TIE, etc already on shelves so when doing the sets that fill up most a wave this decade they lean into the stuff that skews younger because, while a kid will always want an X-Wing, they'd rather have a Gunship or a Mando Army than like an Imperial Shuttle or Endor Rebel army I wish we had sales data on individual sets. I guess we can assume long shelf life, # who own on Brickset, and clearance sets, nothing is for sure though. Some will argue LEGO knows what will sell best but I have a hard time believing a set like buildable chewie actually sells well. 1 hour ago, BrickPrick said: They didn't? What's the classic smiley face look like, then? I seemingly have something else in mind. Like this: ( : or look up Lego Hoth rebel trooper 2009 43 minutes ago, Swordy said: I agree, however I believe it only works if the characters are in other sets as non-light-up versions. Then, people would have the ability to buy the figure in standard configuration and customize the character as they wish, yet that’d also mean a repetitive character lineup across the theme. Yeah I'd be happy with just a Luke and Vader. Quote
Llewop Posted October 21 Posted October 21 Anyone else ever think the nature of leaks are so random, like Stranger things set which is Jan 2026 has leaked yet two sets which are November releases haven’t had anything official yet. must mean official pics of other January sets are in the wind hopefully won’t be long til we see the SW ones Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted October 21 Posted October 21 1 hour ago, Darth_Bane13 said: I wish we had sales data on individual sets. I guess we can assume long shelf life, # who own on Brickset, and clearance sets, nothing is for sure though. Some will argue LEGO knows what will sell best but I have a hard time believing a set like buildable chewie actually sells well. Yeah, we can't know the specifics, LEGO definitely has better data than any of us the question is how they read it and implement it. I don't think the buildable, humanoid figures they do in licenses ever sell too well, I feel like it's the designers just being passionate on keeping constraction alive so they're constantly pitched with some slight change to make them work this time. 3 hours ago, BrickPrick said: I had to search up this name. Because I was fortunate enough to never have witnessed the atrocity otherwise known as The Holiday Special. Think I can live without her inclusion in a possible Cantine set... or anything ever. . You have no whimsy and joy in your heart, she's a powerful character with a musical number that can only be considered the second worst in the saga somehow 4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: That’d be kinda hilarious, but if we’re lucky, they won’t mix smart and dumb minifigs and most people can safely skip the smart brick sets And making smart minifigs of random side characters would be an incredibly boneheaded idea. I feel that'd be a bad decision by them, yeah, parents and kids will be confused and the kids will be disappointed when not all the figures included speak 3 hours ago, BrickPrick said: They didn't? What's the classic smiley face look like, then? I seemingly have something else in mind. The first ever minifigure faceprints. used most famously on the classic space figures. Rebels, imperial officers and other more minor characters always had them in the theme's early days. 5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: It's possible, but I'd want to see some more concrete data. The clone stuff's really only popped up in the last few years, so I wouldn't say they've been using this strategy long if that's the case. Similarly, the TIE bomber seems to have done very well, being that it's still on shelves (but not clearance, at least near me). That also could be due to it's good value for money, but you know lego will never learn THAT lesson. And while I could definitely see rebel battle packs doing worse than clone or imperial ones, I can't see there being a huge difference between stormtroopers and the 73rd consecutive 501st legion battlepack. Our last falcon was also six years ago. It's not like the X-wing and TIE where we get one every three years like clockwork. Obviously there's no concrete data, all speculation, and obviously I'm not saying this was always true, if it is it's a recent trend. Maybe the Tie Bomber did well, I'm sure some less prominent OT ones do but I don't think that's the trend, or at the very least the sorta people who do pick those up would be just as or more likely to pick up a Adults Welcome display piece for double the cost where as kids gravitate to clones and Mandos. There are way too many 501st packs but, yes, I absolutely think clones out perform imperial battlepacks. Like, even discounting the elephant in the room there, we've discussed: Kids prefer good guy sets, they prefer customisability, the clones are more colourful which grabs eyes, even amongst all the 501st packs half of them have also have a loud orange colour complimenting them. I do not doubt clones sell notably better these days at all. As for the falcon, our last one was last year. I know not a normal one but I think LEGO considers it the place of one given that the 2019 one retired just before it released and this one is retiring this year when we're seemingly gonna get a new one next year. The falcon is an oddity because unlike the usual way these things used to go they kept the 2019 one on shelves for 5 years. It has had a shelf presence for half a decade. Entirely conjecture here but I wonder if the rapid release of the ones in 2012, 2015, 2018 then 2019 made them rest the ship for a bit, like it stayed on shelves so it didn't tank or anything but I wonder if maybe they decided to rest the model either until they could make some more substantial difference to it or if there was a small downward trend with later releases so they decided to keep it on shelves but wait long enough for a new one would get more people interested. Excluding UCS sets that Falcon had an insane lifespan for this theme, maybe it just sold exponentially better than usual too but that seems less plausible. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 21 Posted October 21 5 minutes ago, Llewop said: Anyone else ever think the nature of leaks are so random, like Stranger things set which is Jan 2026 has leaked yet two sets which are November releases haven’t had anything official yet. It’s actually even weirder than that because two of the January Speed Champions sets can already be pre-ordered, just like the Batman sets scheduled for March Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted October 21 Posted October 21 21 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said: The falcon is an oddity because unlike the usual way these things used to go they kept the 2019 one on shelves for 5 years. It has had a shelf presence for half a decade. Entirely conjecture here but I wonder if the rapid release of the ones in 2012, 2015, 2018 then 2019 made them rest the ship for a bit, like it stayed on shelves so it didn't tank or anything but I wonder if maybe they decided to rest the model either until they could make some more substantial difference to it or if there was a small downward trend with later releases so they decided to keep it on shelves but wait long enough for a new one would get more people interested. I always thought they should've updated the 2019 falcon with OT figs after a year. Quote
Samppu Posted October 21 Posted October 21 4 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: I wish we had sales data on individual sets. I guess we can assume long shelf life, # who own on Brickset, and clearance sets, nothing is for sure though. Some will argue LEGO knows what will sell best but I have a hard time believing a set like buildable chewie actually sells well. It has probably something to do with a long term strategy, not with immediate resale winnings. Clearly buildable Chewie does not affect long term fans and kids so much, but it isn't meant to. It is meant to attract new adult fans and more than that, all the 18+ sets are a spearhead with which Lego fuels the culture of a trendy new adult hobby. It is not just the 18+ sets alone, it is the Lego Masters TV shows, collaboration with nostalgia brands (Pokemon!) and advertisement campaigns towards adults which clearly reflect their overall purpose to win a new market for years to come. Individual sales are of secondary importance next to this grand scheme. If a set make revenue, even small, then great. If it doesn't, consider it as a marketing cost. In this regard they are probably pulling the right strings given that the new generation of adults (millenials) care a lot about hobbies, unlike most of their parents did, whereas the kids tend to become more inclined to digital addiction than toys. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 Today we have a word from the GOAT. (Day #181 of willing a Lego Tie Avenger into existence) Also: the Smart Bricks were officially revealed in June 2024 so I’m not posting a leak. (: I don’t want to get banned. 17 hours ago, Zap Rowsdower said: So why is the TIE Advanced a relatively reasonable $60? Especially if it accommodates two smart features? Simple: Smart Vader is the only minifig. Quote
BrickPrick Posted October 22 Posted October 22 (edited) On 10/21/2025 at 7:16 PM, Swordy said: *presses the start button* Oh no... Intentionally didn't even tag him, yet there he is again. Just please don't overanalyze anything. Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along. 23 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: Like this: ( : or look up Lego Hoth rebel trooper 2009 Yeah, that's actually the exact face print I had in mind this whole time. Just mistook the 20th anniversary figures for actually having it. 21 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said: You have no whimsy and joy in your heart, she's a powerful character with a musical number that can only be considered the second worst in the saga somehow Hahaha, of all the things I am severely lacking in my life, pure joy is definitely not one of them. By your account, who is the worst musical offender, then? 21 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: It’s actually even weirder than that because two of the January Speed Champions sets can already be pre-ordered, just like the Batman sets scheduled for March Speaking of music, Lego Star Wars PR team be like: Wake me up... when November ends. Edited October 22 by BrickPrick Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 5 minutes ago, BrickPrick said: Yeah, that's actually the exact face print I had in mind this whole time. Just mistook the 20th anniversary figures for actually having it. Yeah they usually only gave the classic smiley to unnamed characters, although they did give Wedge Antilles the classic smiley face. Quote
Lordhelmet Posted October 23 Posted October 23 15 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Simple: Smart Vader is the only minifig. While it’s not a tie avenger, I am moderately looking forward to this set. We haven’t had a tie advanced for a while, smart Vader might be one of better smart figures due to the cape covering the ugly printing (and I don’t care about getting another Vader). But will the ship look good? If it looks good I’ll buy (maybe on sale later on) but I am concerned based on the x-wing picture that was out there. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted October 23 Posted October 23 1 hour ago, Lordhelmet said: While it’s not a tie avenger, I am moderately looking forward to this set. We haven’t had a tie advanced for a while, smart Vader might be one of better smart figures due to the cape covering the ugly printing (and I don’t care about getting another Vader). But will the ship look good? If it looks good I’ll buy (maybe on sale later on) but I am concerned based on the x-wing picture that was out there. That's what it all hinges on for me. The PPP gives me hope that the "smart" integration is at most a vader fig and that the build will be solid. But if it's a "smart" TIE, it's worse than just not getting a TIE Advanced set at all, because it'll not only be compromised but sets the clock back on our next advanced. And given the last one was a decade ago, that's not a wait I'm particularly eager to go through again. 9 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: Yeah they usually only gave the classic smiley to unnamed characters, although they did give Wedge Antilles the classic smiley face. Being the best character in all of Star Wars they've always understood wedge is simply too powerful to have a unique face print, the aura generated would cause the plastic to melt. But seriously, it would be nice if they could finally give him a unique face print, despite his lack of screen time in the movies he is a fairly notable name in both the EU and Canon, and he also has the distinction of being the only non-main-hero onscreen to survive Yavin, Hoth, AND Endor. On 10/21/2025 at 3:58 PM, Renny The Spaceman said: You have no whimsy and joy in your heart, she's a powerful character with a musical number that can only be considered the second worst in the saga somehow She's a fraud. I feel bad that she got harassed by 1978-special-effects Jogo, and her singing talents... are a trait she attempts to display, but compared to Chalmun "Despite being a species with hair all over their body, I WILL find a way to have have a cartoonish mustache" the wookiee and PTSD-ridden-yet-standing-up-to-boba-fett Wuher, she's nothing. 16 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: (Day #181 of willing a Lego Tie Avenger into existence) See this is why I don't consider it spam, it's a new and unique way of asking for a tie avenger every day. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Why aren’t Lego making a Tie Avenger and only a U-Wing? Are they part of it? (Day #182) Can we please get May set names and fig lists already?! Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 23 Posted October 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said: Can we please get May set names and fig lists already?! Isn’t there only one set in May that isn’t a bust or a M&G tie-in? This may take a while then as I doubt that would leak separately Plus, we still don’t have the set list for March either. Edited October 23 by BrickBob Studpants Quote
BrickPrick Posted October 23 Posted October 23 2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Can we please get May set names and fig lists already?! Can I just get the Cad Bane minifigure leaked piece by piece in all it's blurry glory? Otherwise, a couple more details regarding the winter wave sets would be neat. In the meantime, please excuse me while I'm sitting on my Boss Nass profile picture for the... "foreseeable future", so to speak. By the maker... what have I done?! Quote
Meaf Posted October 23 Posted October 23 I think Lego should kill two birds with one stone by releasing a Tie Avenger that includes Boss Nass. But yeah some more leaks would be nice, at the very least I'd like to see the complete figures for the parts that have leaked already. Quote
Zap Rowsdower Posted October 23 Posted October 23 11 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: and he also has the distinction of being the only non-main-hero onscreen to survive Yavin, Hoth, AND Endor. Fun fact, C'ai Thenalli is basically a modern equivalent in the Sequel trilogy. He survived Starkiller Base, D'qar, Crait, and Exogal. Where is my C'ai Thenalli love? Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted October 23 Posted October 23 1 hour ago, Zap Rowsdower said: Fun fact, C'ai Thenalli is basically a modern equivalent in the Sequel trilogy. He survived Starkiller Base, D'qar, Crait, and Exogal. Where is my C'ai Thenalli love? Non existent because the sequels suck Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 23 Posted October 23 1 hour ago, Zap Rowsdower said: He survived Starkiller Base, D'qar, Crait, and Exogal. Did he appear in TFA though? Ello Asty got killed, and I don’t remember seeing a second Abednedo pilot Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted October 23 Posted October 23 18 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Did he appear in TFA though? Ello Asty got killed, and I don’t remember seeing a second Abednedo pilot He's in TFA, but only because they messed up and had somebody in the Ello Asty costume in the final D'Qar scene after he died at starkiller. C'ai wasn't part of the attack on starkiller base. 7 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Isn’t there only one set in May that isn’t a bust or a M&G tie-in? This may take a while then as I doubt that would leak separately Plus, we still don’t have the set list for March either. And IIRC the price and piece count heavily imply it's a clone battle pack. 9 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Why aren’t Lego making a Tie Avenger and only a U-Wing? Are they part of it? (Day #182) Can we please get May set names and fig lists already?! I just want some confirmation on the March stuff. How compromised are these sets going to be? Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 23 Posted October 23 28 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: He's in TFA, but only because they messed up and had somebody in the Ello Asty costume in the final D'Qar scene after he died at starkiller. C'ai wasn't part of the attack on starkiller base. Ohhhh, that makes sense! It’s always funny to me when new SW characters get created because of BTS shenanigans. Just like Agen Kolar and Stass Allie, who were suspiciously similar replacements of Eeth Koth and Adi Gallia and also created out of necessity IIRC 28 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: And IIRC the price and piece count heavily imply it's a clone battle pack. Far from guaranteed, but certainly plausible. Wouldn’t be the first we got a random CT set in May! There were the Republic Fighter Tank in 2022 and the BARC Speeder Escape in 2024, after all ^^ Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted October 23 Posted October 23 2 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Far from guaranteed, but certainly plausible. Wouldn’t be the first we got a random CT set in May! There were the Republic Fighter Tank in 2022 and the BARC Speeder Escape in 2024, after all ^^ Would make sense for the clone centric way the theme is run "there's a cloneless wave for this movie? Throw in a Clone pack in the wave" Once again, clearly they sell better than other packs, maybe not always but definitely as of now. 14 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: She's a fraud. I feel bad that she got harassed by 1978-special-effects Jogo, and her singing talents... are a trait she attempts to display, but compared to Chalmun "Despite being a species with hair all over their body, I WILL find a way to have have a cartoonish mustache" the wookiee and PTSD-ridden-yet-standing-up-to-boba-fett Wuher, she's nothing. Not saying she's the best bar keeper, though clearly Wuher's heart wasn't in the game, they sell him the speeder and boom, a year later the bars in Bea Arthur's hands. His calling is elsewhere. 14 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Being the best character in all of Star Wars they've always understood wedge is simply too powerful to have a unique face print, the aura generated would cause the plastic to melt. But seriously, it would be nice if they could finally give him a unique face print, despite his lack of screen time in the movies he is a fairly notable name in both the EU and Canon, and he also has the distinction of being the only non-main-hero onscreen to survive Yavin, Hoth, AND Endor. REAL. No-one hates Wedge, a unique privilege for a character, he 'll show up in something and get an involuntary hell yeah from everyone. Mad that he's not the go to secondary pilot in most X-wings. In a way Darth Vader's greatest contribution to the Rebellion may be letting him go on the first Death Star, no matter if it's Legends, Canon or an Ardman short that one decision is pivotal. I heard someone say in a way he's the ultimate Glup Shitto, insted of being an extra who's super pivotal to the universe through expanded media he's an extra who does important shit in the films but just far enough from the focus most forget. On 10/22/2025 at 6:45 PM, Darth_Bane13 said: Yeah they usually only gave the classic smiley to unnamed characters, although they did give Wedge Antilles the classic smiley face. Most pilots did, like Dutch Vander or Dak, as did Dengar but Wedge is the most notable. On 10/22/2025 at 6:37 PM, BrickPrick said: Hahaha, of all the things I am severely lacking in my life, pure joy is definitely not one of them. By your account, who is the worst musical offender, then? Okay, the real answer is Carrie Fisher at the end of the holiday special but spiritually it's the shitty CG Jabba dance number that played 24/7 in the classic Battlefront (2?) menu Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 23 Posted October 23 18 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said: Okay, the real answer is Carrie Fisher at the end of the holiday special […] And the best song of course was AP-5’s *clonk* Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted October 23 Posted October 23 4 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: And the best song of course was AP-5’s *clonk* The only issue is Wedge didn't get a verse Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted October 23 Posted October 23 3 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said: Most pilots did, like Dutch Vander or Dak, as did Dengar but Wedge is the most notable. I forgot about Dengar since his face is covered up Quote
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