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14 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

And this is why we have $45 battle packs

Care to elaborate?

2 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

You’re trolling, right?

Why would I be?

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2 hours ago, Lordhelmet said:

I think I’ve heard rectangle foot print (top down) (mandr just did a video on the rumors) he states that he heard a few months ago it’s essentially a slice of the Death Star, so rectangle foot print with a spherically shape/ outline and then a bunch of scenes vignettes.  I think that’s where the two rumors converged.  So not like a half a Death Star but a cut out from the Death Star.  Seeing pictures will clear it all up but it not being a Death Star is sad.

A slice of the Death Star would be alright... if the price was a slice of what they will ask for as well. As of right now, very sad indeed. I have a bad feeling about this. 

1 hour ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

The penny pinching on the figures in this set astounds me. Even when other themes deliver underwhelming big budget builds, like the LOTR Shire, the figures are treated with the utmost respect, dual molded everything. If this set is a diorama, the figures are even more crucial to the display value of the build because there is no iconic spherical silhouette to mask the interior. The figures ARE the exterior detailing now, and the depressing thing is that we can’t even say “well maybe someday they’ll get it right”, because it’s a $1,000 toy. It literally can’t be a more appropriate opportunity to deliver the best renditions of these characters. This is it, LSW with this set is essentially saying, “this is the best your money can afford in this theme”. Money is no longer the issue, it’s the people making these decisions who are the limiting factor. 

Yeah, this is not supposed to be just another UCS set. This is basically THE definitive UCS set. They should go all-in on this one. But if they are still cutting corners to a fault, while somehow still charging 1000 bucks for it, what's stopping them to be even more strict and less lenient for everything else for this theme? Imagine this thing at least meets sales expectations and is commercially successful? It could prove a dangerous precedent for unrelated sets. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

Care to elaborate?

I think he's implying that by buying the 327th battle pack as soon as you found it rather than waiting for a sale or something, you're part of the reason why LEGO keeps producing sets that are this ridiculously overpriced. While you're of course free to do what you like with your money, and your son's upcoming bday is definitely a fair reason to buy it now rather than later, I can't say I completely disagree with him :(

Either way, I hope your son enjoys the set :D

Posted
2 hours ago, Lordhelmet said:

I think I’ve heard rectangle foot print (top down) (mandr just did a video on the rumors) he states that he heard a few months ago it’s essentially a slice of the Death Star, so rectangle foot print with a spherically shape/ outline and then a bunch of scenes vignettes.  I think that’s where the two rumors converged.  So not like a half a Death Star but a cut out from the Death Star.  Seeing pictures will clear it all up but it not being a Death Star is sad.

Ah okay, I guess that kinda makes sense? Still seems like a very bizarre design and not really something I can see a lot of people spending $1000 on though.

18 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

And this is why we have $45 battle packs

I mean maybe it's just me but but I feel like if I had a kid and they really wanted a set for their birthday I'd just get it, even if it was overpriced. The cause of these absurd set prices is Lego being greedy, not Lego fans occasionally buy a set that's overpriced. "Vote with your wallet" basically never works for Lego because you need a concerted effort to get a lot of people to participate in the boycott, and a huge percentage of Lego buyers are people who will never look up anything to with Legos online, ever. 

Posted
19 minutes ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

Why would I be?

Why would a $45 battlepack be “hard to get a hold of”? Even the sensibly priced ones in recent memory were not difficult to obtain.

8 minutes ago, Meaf said:

"Vote with your wallet" basically never works for Lego

It does. See: Hulkbuster and Black Panther Bust. I think they hit a 50% discount on Lego at a certain point. This wasn’t due to a concerted protest, just the natural reaction of consumers. 

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2 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

Why would a $45 battlepack be “hard to get a hold of”? Even the sensibly priced ones in recent memory were not difficult to obtain.

They were around here for a long time

Also, in case you missed it, I was very clear that I needed to try to find one before my son’s birthday. Idk where you live, but here clone sets are impossible to find for the first couple of weeks at least, let alone the first couple of days, which is why my timeline is. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

They were around here for a long time

Also, in case you missed it, I was very clear that I needed to try to find one before my son’s birthday. Idk where you live, but here clone sets are impossible to find for the first couple of weeks at least, let alone the first couple of days, which is why my timeline is. 

Gotcha. You said “for a while” which made it seem like it was going to be OOS for weeks or months. I also don’t know where you live.

Posted
27 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

Gotcha. You said “for a while” which made it seem like it was going to be OOS for weeks or months. I also don’t know where you live.

Sometimes it is weeks honestly 

Posted
1 hour ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

It does. See: Hulkbuster and Black Panther Bust. I think they hit a 50% discount on Lego at a certain point. This wasn’t due to a concerted protest, just the natural reaction of consumers. 

I feel like that's a completely different situation, is it not? I agree that those sets took no effort to make flop, but if we're not worried about the new sets selling well then why does anyone need to criticize the purchasing decisions of others in the first place?

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18 minutes ago, Meaf said:

I feel like that's a completely different situation, is it not? I agree that those sets took no effort to make flop, but if we're not worried about the new sets selling well then why does anyone need to criticize the purchasing decisions of others in the first place?

Yeah, like those other two sets were sets that nobody wanted at all. These are sets that a lot of people want, but are just overpriced. I plan on getting them, mostly after discounts, but probably not all after discounts. I choose to still enjoy Lego and not let YouTubers tell me I’m supposed to complain and hate Lego lol

Posted
19 minutes ago, Meaf said:

I feel like that's a completely different situation, is it not? I agree that those sets took no effort to make flop, but if we're not worried about the new sets selling well then why does anyone need to criticize the purchasing decisions of others in the first place?

For the same reason we criticize people for voting for the “wrong” candidate, I suppose. Every dollar spent is a vote in the market, and every little bit helps. Silencing criticism of how people spend their money only helps bad companies. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Meaf said:

I mean maybe it's just me but but I feel like if I had a kid and they really wanted a set for their birthday I'd just get it, even if it was overpriced. The cause of these absurd set prices is Lego being greedy, not Lego fans occasionally buy a set that's overpriced. "Vote with your wallet" basically never works for Lego because you need a concerted effort to get a lot of people to participate in the boycott, and a huge percentage of Lego buyers are people who will never look up anything to with Legos online, ever. 

Yeah it's understandable if the kid really wants the set for his birthday. It's just crazy how How I could get 4 battle packs for the price of one new one when I was a kid.

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Jeez, guys. @Balrogofmorgoth was sharing a story about something nice he did for his son and everyone's acting like he's killing the theme. No, a dad buying a single copy of the battle pack for his kid's birthday isn't why the battle packs are $45. Even the general trope of parents buying the sets their kids specifically ask for is not why. There's a clear trend of clone battle packs having frontloaded sales and going on significant discount within 6 months to a year of release, and that's not because every child on the planet's birthday is in January or August.

4 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

And this is why we have $45 battle packs

I'm going to bring this one up specifically because weren't you JUST saying there's no legitimate reason to dislike the youtuber who posts videos on his gargantuan clone armies for a mostly kid audience? You don't think that might have a bigger impact in terms of getting kids to buy these than a dad buying the set his kid asked for?

2 hours ago, Meaf said:

I feel like that's a completely different situation, is it not? I agree that those sets took no effort to make flop, but if we're not worried about the new sets selling well then why does anyone need to criticize the purchasing decisions of others in the first place?

Exactly- with the caveat that if you're army-building mass quantities at full price, or trying to encourage people to buy it at full price, that may be contributing a bit more. But buying a set your kid asked for isn't some awful thing. 

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Apparently I annoyed someone on Brickset with my idea of using the CTT as a Classic Space Moonbus and cargo rover. I was only going to do it if I could find the set for half price or less without minifigs, and it wasn't a priority. I looked on eBay today and saw someone selling it, two copies, in hand, without minifigs, for $60 each, so I bought them. Enough non-LAN youtubers and ordinary people on Reddit have been able to buy the August sets before the street date that I think this is probably just an ordinary person buying it at Target just for the minifigs and selling off the build without price gouging, but I'm always a little wary about buying new sets on eBay. What does Eurobricks think?

Posted
1 hour ago, icm said:

Apparently I annoyed someone on Brickset with my idea of using the CTT as a Classic Space Moonbus and cargo rover. I was only going to do it if I could find the set for half price or less without minifigs, and it wasn't a priority. I looked on eBay today and saw someone selling it, two copies, in hand, without minifigs, for $60 each, so I bought them. Enough non-LAN youtubers and ordinary people on Reddit have been able to buy the August sets before the street date that I think this is probably just an ordinary person buying it at Target just for the minifigs and selling off the build without price gouging, but I'm always a little wary about buying new sets on eBay. What does Eurobricks think?

Don’t know how eBay is in the US but UK is always (mostly) good. But if there are fake sets and it’s not in the description you always get your money back, eBay always sides with the buyer. I always pick up odd sets and figures off eBay when the price is right. Last night I got the last republic tank new and sealed for the same as when it was on the shelves which thought was a good deal. Gives me more purple clones. For me the way Lego is going 2nd hand marketplaces are going to be my go to for new sets or figures I want. That’s where I will pick up a lot of the Death Star figures when they release. 

but I wish there was someone like you in the U.K. as I only really want the figures from the CTT whereas you want the build. 

I think it’s crazy how it’s always US stores that the sets come out early in, I always check UK stores and they are never early, sometimes they don’t even show in stores until weeks/months after release

7 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

You’re trolling, right?

Depends on what area people live in but a lot of rural areas or towns especially in the U.K. might only have one/two shops that sell Lego and form my own experience because it releases on 1st August doesn’t mean they are available 1st August. That’s why i always do online because you know the stock is there but for those who hate online shopping where you live is still a key factor on your access to sets. 

 

3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Jeez, guys. @Balrogofmorgoth was sharing a story about something nice he did for his son and everyone's acting like he's killing the theme. No, a dad buying a single copy of the battle pack for his kid's birthday isn't why the battle packs are $45. Even the general trope of parents buying the sets their kids specifically ask for is not why. There's a clear trend of clone battle packs having frontloaded sales and going on significant discount within 6 months to a year of release, and that's not because every child on the planet's birthday is in January or August.

 

 

 

This 1000% we should celebrate the fact that there are kids still interested in buying Star Wars Lego. I myself have always been fortunate that my birthday is 31 July and so my birthday I always get one of the new sets from a June/August wave. it should be everyone’s free choice when and where to buy a set everyone here mostly agrees the sets are too expensive but if there are special occasions like birthdays then your hardly going to deny a child a set they desire. Especially when the battlepack is one of the cheapest set coming in August. 

We should be thankful Lego doesn’t do full wave releases before Christmas in like November/December time because that would screw us over at Christmas time, at least these sets will be on sale for Christmas to buy for children/spouses or for ourselves. 

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Tie Avenger is like the sun, if you only believe in it when you see it, you’ll never make it through the night. (Day #95)

(TLJ isn’t that good, but I’ll admit that it’s a particularly cool piece of dialogue)

 

75421 and 75423 news must be found.

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Posted

I have mixed feelings about the Death Star rumours. On the one hand, I was expecting a spherical set and accordingly prepared a spot for it. It being a much taller and wider slice guarantees to ruin these plans :snicker:

On the other, this sounds great for displayability reasons! It always bothered me how you could not display the previous two models with all rooms visible at the same time, unless you happen to be able to display them on a table or a pedestal in the middle of a room. 

I’ll reserve judgement until we see pictures ^^

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Are we even absolutely certain the upcoming Death Star will be a UCS set instead of MBS? The total amount of minifigures is unprecedented for any Lego Star Wars set and would be much more in line with larger play sets (MBS). Sure, we had the previous two UCS Death Stars, but much like the Ewok Village and Assault on Hoth sets, those were MBS style sets in everything but name. Not that mere MBS box branding over an UCS label would necessarily improve the value proposition of the product per se, but it would make more sense why this thing is seemingly designed as a large diorama instead of a sphere-like display piece. Timing-wise, as the Mos Eisley Cantina is finally retired by now, it would fit in as well. But yeah, in reality, it will probably be yet another MBS set in nature masquerading as an official UCS set. :grin:

Posted
25 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

Are we even absolutely certain the upcoming Death Star will be a UCS set instead of MBS? The total amount of minifigures is unprecedented for any Lego Star Wars set and would be much more in line with larger play sets (MBS). Sure, we had the previous two UCS Death Stars, but much like the Ewok Village and Assault on Hoth sets, those were MBS style sets in everything but name. Not that mere MBS box branding over an UCS label would necessarily improve the value proposition of the product per se, but it would make more sense why this thing is seemingly designed as a large diorama instead of a sphere-like display piece. Timing-wise, as the Mos Eisley Cantina is finally retired by now, it would fit in as well. But yeah, in reality, it will probably be yet another MBS set in nature masquerading as an official UCS set. :grin:

Does it even matter?

We haven't had an MBS set since 2020, and I don't think LEGO even advertises those sets as such anymore. It's just another big Star Wars set for them. Jabba's Sail Barge had like 11 characters, so they obviously aren't tied to 2 characters per UCS set.

Posted
1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Does it even matter?

We haven't had an MBS set since 2020, and I don't think LEGO even advertises those sets as such anymore. It's just another big Star Wars set for them. Jabba's Sail Barge had like 11 characters, so they obviously aren't tied to 2 characters per UCS set.

Well, the difference between a UCS and MBS set matters to me on a mere personal level. But like i said, i don't think either format is gonna work wonders as far as suddenly increasing consumer's value is concerned. Having more UCS sets like the UCS Sail Barge (or the AT-AT) containing more than the regular pair of minifigures doesn't speak against more MBS sets, though. As the latter are always based on locations, while the former are obviously ships. I more so perceive the ten-ish minifigures for more expensive UCS sets as sort of middle ground between your regular priced ones with two figs and MBS sets with a line-up of 20+ figs. 

Posted

Did anybody try to do a death star using the shape/structure of the set 21332 "Globe" ? I guess it would be an easy mod and a good alternative to this 1000$ death star. Plus the size would be pretty okay, the globe is not awfully large.

Posted

Personally, I think TLG should just retire both the UCS and MBS labels and call all the big D2C sets “Collector’s Edition”, like they do with the Potter D2C sets. Sets like the AT-AT, the Razor Crest, Jabba’s Sailbarge or the upcoming Death Star blur the lines between UCS and MBS to a degree where a distinction makes little sense anymore :laugh_hard:

Posted
51 minutes ago, EvanHnuel said:

Oh nice, did not remember that one. Its a nice begining but would deserve some more greeblig to be nicer. It also lacks the iconic line on the equatorial side. Whatever, that concept is I think the better alternative for the folks who want a purely exterior display DS.

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