LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[MKJoshA]

The prequel vs sequel debate has been talked over a lot. Time to give it a rest and get back on target.

[Darth_Bane13]

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Regardless of what you think the perceived demand is, I think we can all agree the two sets they chose are possibly the worst way to go about it.

I mean Kylo ren was one of the most liked parts of the sequels, so the sets kind of make sense, granted they're overpriced.

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Yeah, maybe that’s how they felt, but the reality was quite different. Let’s take a look at what the Clone Bros got during the ST:

• 2015: Gunship & ARC-170 MF, Hailfire Droid, Geonosis Troopers BP
• 2016: Homing Spider Droid, CTT, Rex’s AT-TE
• 2017: Fighter Tank, Obi-Wan’s JF (because of Jango & Boba)
• 2018: Jedi & Clone BP
• 2019: AT-AP, Scout Walker

That’s an awful lot for people that pretend they were absolutely starving during that time

They still got at least one set a year, and quite a few of them were army-builders too, so exactly what they want! That’s not comparable to the Clone sets we’re now drowning in, with most of the non-Clone sets being 18+ ones.

At least we know that this won’t happen again anytime soon, thanks to the new movies

We got so many Clone sets from 08-14 it just felt like such a downgrade during 2015-2019. The sets we got weren't great either, Jedi Clone BP had named characters, spider droid was remade too soon, CTT was downsized. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

9 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

We got so many Clone sets from 08-14 it just felt like such a downgrade during 2015-2019. 

Quality discussions aside, the point is, there were still plenty of sets. Non-Clone-Bros however get next to nothing in terms of playsets this year. The imbalance is simply off the charts!

Don’t get me wrong, I’m in favour of providing Clone sets, but the Year of the Clone needs to never be repeated again

[Llewop]

so has anyone seen there’s a list of all the set price rises out for the US. Apparently the DS isn’t going any higher and a few other buildable droids and the AT-ST and micro fighter all won’t be going up which says to me at least Lego know they are taking the pi** with the RRP in the first place. The buildable droid is going up 30 dollars on its own?! 

[lego the hutt]

7 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

The backlash to Last Jedi was absolutely immense. So immense that Disney quickly changed course on their series.

But it's different. People were clamoring for and wondering about new Star Wars for 15 years when Phantom Menace released, and it was the Star Wars creator himself delivering odd and clunky ideas with slow pacing where zippy inventive fun and relatable characters had once reigned.

People were very excited for the sequels, but still approaching it with some trepidation now that it was Big Corporate running the show. I remember the rumours of Force Awakens starting with Luke's hand floating through space and thinking, ok, we'll wait and see.

"Half the excitement, .5 the letdown" - Count Dooku.

This shows how unaware you are of what the prequel backlash was like.  Sure the backlash was bad towards TLJ but not anywhere close to the prequels.  Not even in the same ballpark.

 

George got literal death threats.  It was main stream media how much people were upset. On the news, not just within the fandom. Outrage over multiple forms of racism. "George Lucas ruined my childhood" was a common saying.

Clearly you weren't an adult in the fandom when the prequels released. It was not clunky ideas and slow pacing lol.  You have no idea.

Edited Wednesday at 02:07 PM by lego the hutt

[THELEGOBATMAN]

36 minutes ago, lego the hutt said:

This shows how unaware you are of what the prequel backlash was like.  Sure the backlash was bad towards TLJ but not anywhere close to the prequels.  Not even in the same ballpark.

George got literal death threats.  It was main stream media how much people were upset. On the news, not just within the fandom. Outrage over multiple forms of racism. "George Lucas ruined my childhood" was a common saying.

Same thing happened with The Last Jedi, so there's no need to pretend that's not the case.

Actors (but unfortunately, mostly actresses like Kelly Marie Tran) were targeted by all the internet trolls and fake Star Wars "fans". The director got death threats too, he's not any different fron Lucas.

Racists, sexists and all other kind of bigots gathered like moths to a flame. "Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars" wasn't any less common than what you're saying about Lucas.

The Last Jedi literally changed the current landscape of fandom blockbuster filmmaking. Why do you think The Rise of Skywalker looked how it looked, afraid to take any risk, without a single original idea?

I know it's off-topic so that's all I'll say about it, but it's also worth mentioning that because of the increased accessibility to the internet compared with the times when the Prequels released, combined with the increasing toxicity of fans, The Last Jedi absolutely got backlash that was at least as bad as the Prequels, if not worse.

[lego the hutt]

4 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Same thing happened with The Last Jedi, so there's no need to pretend that's not the case.

Actors (but unfortunately, mostly actresses like Kelly Marie Tran) were targeted by all the internet trolls and fake Star Wars "fans". The director got death threats too, he's not any different fron Lucas.

Racists, sexists and all other kind of bigots gathered like moths to a flame. "Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars" wasn't any less common than what you're saying about Lucas.

The Last Jedi literally changed the current landscape of fandom blockbuster filmmaking. Why do you think The Rise of Skywalker looked how it looked, afraid to take any risk, without a single original idea?

I know it's off-topic so that's all I'll say about it, but it's also worth mentioning that because of the increased accessibility to the internet compared with the times when the Prequels released, combined with the increasing toxicity of fans, The Last Jedi absolutely got backlash that was at least as bad as the Prequels, if not worse.

Again, I commented the backlash towards TLJ was plenty bad.  But to think it was even close...is to show ignorance.

I'm just guessing most of the people responding weren't adults in the fandom when the prequels released.  It was night and day different.  The sequels backlash was mild in comparison.

You don't understand.

[BrickPrick]

5 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

There is a video review of the June wave out on YouTube by Duck bricks if anyone wants a even closer look.

Appreciate it. Seeing reviews of sets before they even got officially revealed will never not be funny to me. 

5 hours ago, Swordy said:

That’s very true of works of art. It’s not true of products, though, and that’s wherein TLG’s business lies, especially when it’s children’s toys.

LEGO never made a set for one person alone; this I always remind myself. They pour hours into researching what the most successful toys can be made from LEGO bricks. Subsequently, they pour hours more into perceiving what the most popular version of that product will be.

So should LSW try to cater to everybody? Yes, that’s their business. The fact they chose only the Clone Bros as their audience this year leaves diehards of other aspects feeling shut out, much like the Clone Bros likely felt back in the Sequel days. I believe there’s a better way of doing business than swinging hard from one group to the other, and that comes through trying to cater to everybody. With a love for all SW, it is possible to know what would make fans of each group happy (things like a main character with his vehicle, the main trio included almost perennially, an assortment of villains and background characters from each era, etc), because you yourself want to see each part of the Saga get its due justice.

It was also insane it took 20 years to get around to a then-39-year old character in Zuckess, 23 years to get around to a then-45-year old character in Aunt Beru, and 25 to get around to a then-41-year old character in Nein Numb. The reign of Nass will come soon enough.

I’m as well in solidarity with @CloneCommando99 requesting a LEGO TIE Avenger.

I am aware it's Lego's job to brainstorm into all these different directions to decide what will be most popular choice for their consumers. It's not about favoring any era of Star Wars, to be anti this or anti that, it's obviously about what makes them the most money... the best business. 

And in that regard, they have to cater to as many people as possible. But i stand by that, they will never end up pleasing everyone with a single wave, let alone a whole year. And they don't have to. They have to provide better balance again... one way or the other.

Even if they don't do so soon... These extremes, like seriously lacking variety for several sub-themes, are not eternal... they are trends. Come fourth 2027 at the latest, we will probably have much more OT sets on shelves again. And the roles in here will be reversed... yet again.

Good maker, it's crazy to see these numbers. But yeah... the happening bunker of Boss Nass will open soon enough. And i will be there. 

I would like to count myself into the requesting TIE Avenger club as well. 

Edited Wednesday at 03:40 PM by BrickPrick

[Mandalorianknight]

9 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

Tanalor is mine!!!

But on the topic of Jedi fallen order; Lego has been getting more and more into videogame stuff. Minecraft had been going a while but now they've picked up Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, Horizon, maybe Arkham in the new Asylum set. So maybe they'll finally take the chance and do a stinger mantis for the third game.

No, it was my discovery, my home, and they just expected me to throw it away?

I think the difference is most of those themes are massive nintendo IPs. The Jedi games sell very well, but stuff like Mario and Pokemon are juggernauts, and they're also very family-friendly, colorful, in line with lego's image. (No idea what's been happening with that horizon-lego crossover so I can't speak on that, and I don't think the aslume set will be based on the games.) Lego claimed the latter was the issue with the jedi games- they're too "adult" to get sets (which.... absolutely BS. Even if lego didn't know about the edgier stuff in Andor S2, there's no way they're considering the Jedi games more mature than that, or even something like ROTS or Rogue One.), but I think it's pretty clear the real issue is the former. They just didn't think the Jedi series was going to be popular enough to warrant sets. That said, both games sold very well, so I do think you're right that a Mantis could be coming for the third game- not necessarily because lego is doing more game stuff, but because it's proven it's popular.

9 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

I won't argue with you about the Accolyte here, we don't all have to like the same things, but I wonder what the opposite of that phrase would be? Catching arrows like Boromir?

Too soon.

 I mean look, however much anyone liked the show, objectively speaking given the overall reception it was a good move on lego's part. The show was aimed more at adults and had it's second season cancelled- it's not much of a leap in logic to predict how the sets would have sold.

6 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

So, about that recast… No offense to the actor, but I’m getting strong “we have [actor] at home” vibes  (This is not a spoiler since the recast has been publicly announced a while ago)

I didn't realize who you were talking about first and was getting ready to defend the Rory Mccann casting

4 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

Unless they are putting an interesting minifig in there, i don't care about these Mechs at all. 

I think the majority of adults feel that way, me included. I thought the X-wing mech was the best one as it wasn't just a reverse funko pop and actually mech-like rather than an extension to the character's body, but at the same time I didn't like it enough to buy it. If there's a figure that I feel makes the $18 parts pack worth it, I'd get the mech, but otherwise not.

2 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

I forget Star Wars fans are excited for a Shaun Levy movie, good luck

Deadpool and Wolverine.

58 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I mean Kylo ren was one of the most liked parts of the sequels, so the sets kind of make sense, granted they're overpriced.

I'm not talking about the character, you know that. Had they released a TIE Silencer with Kylo and Rey I think it would have had more of a chance. This is like if in 2020 they said (not that prequel sets ever left) "we're going to explore the potential for clone sets", and then released an extremely simple midi-scale Nu class shuttle along with a Rex helmet that had all of the blue details and the visor stickered on. It's setting them up for failure. 

I don't know if sequel sets would do all that well, but I think they at least deserved a real chance with a minifig set, especially since the demo most likely to be interested is kids. Whatever your opinion on them- and remember, I despise TLJ and don't think TROS was all that good either- it's not Acolyte or Tales or a random episode of visions. It's a literal third of the skywalker saga and it's weird that we haven't had a big chunk of the core characters availible for over half a decade.

1 hour ago, BrickPrick said:

Appreciate it. Seeing reviews of sets before they even got officially revealed will never not be funny to me. 

the happening bunker of Boss Nass will open soon enough

I didn't realize they hadn't all been revealed yet- as funny as it is, Duckbricks works closely with Lego, I hope he doesn't get in trouble with them over this- I like his designer interviews

That last sentence is extremely ominous. I knew Boss Nass was the Sith Lord all along.

[Lobot]

Not strictly on topic, but there's some incredible deals available on Amazon.fr at the moment!

Quite a few sets are already discounted and there's also a code for the next couple of days which applies a 25 euro discount to 75 euro orders (this is updated daily on the homepage).  I just ordered two sets with an RRP of £110, for just over £52 delivered....

[BrickPrick]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think the majority of adults feel that way, me included. I thought the X-wing mech was the best one as it wasn't just a reverse funko pop and actually mech-like rather than an extension to the character's body, but at the same time I didn't like it enough to buy it. If there's a figure that I feel makes the $18 parts pack worth it, I'd get the mech, but otherwise not.

I didn't realize they hadn't all been revealed yet- as funny as it is, Duckbricks works closely with Lego, I hope he doesn't get in trouble with them over this- I like his designer interviews

That last sentence is extremely ominous. I knew Boss Nass was the Sith Lord all along.

Yeah, i can imagine many/most adults with feel this way. Well, other than seeing these things chopping down the stuff that truly matters even further (), i don't wanna seriously argue about a format that is clearly intended (this time for real) for kids. If some boys and girls enjoy playing with these Mechs, if it sparks their imagination of what their Star Wars universe can be, well... more power to them. For me, it would take an extraordinary exciting minifig to even make me consider buying one of those things. Either something (timed) exclusive or as a much cheaper alternative. 

To my knowledge, the June sets haven't been officially revealed yet. But don't worry, he mentioned in his video that he got permission from Lego to review these sets as soon as they hit his home. So it's probably gonna be fine. 

That's interesting... I didn't even intended to sound ominous this time around. I just want to scream his long overdue minifigure into existence. 

[Max_Lego]

3 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Racists, sexists and all other kind of bigots gathered like moths to a flame

You forgot about "Russian bots"

Blaming "racists, sexists and other bigots" for the movie's failure is exactly what the creators of that piece of crap did. Those arrogant cowards thought they could violate the much beloved franchise however they wanted to, humiliate the beloved characters (especially Luke - just ask Mark Hamill), censor any criticism of that garbage, buy critics who proclaimed that gross parody "the best SW movie ever" - and fans will gleefully eat the $hit and even be grateful. Sadly, sometimes they were true. Sadly, Disney profited lots of bucks from their lore-violating, logic-lacking garbage thanks for the "true fans", who are ready to pay for anything SW, no matter how $hitty it is.

This is why more and more people start actually believing that SW were stupid and $hitty from the very beginning.

And it makes me sad, because the OT were great movies, much better than the universally-beloved meme factories the Prequels are, and lightyears ahead of the pseudo-nostalgic creativity-lacking copypasta the Sequels are. You just need to look at them from a different perspective - something "true SW fans" will never do.

[Renny The Spaceman]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Deadpool and Wolverine.

That's not making the point you think it is

[THELEGOBATMAN]

Just built the U-Wing—I almost never get sets day one, but this one was a must for obvious reasons.

I really love it. The build is fantastic, and like the previous Andor starship, it feels really detailed and smoothed-out. The interior is cramped, granted, but I do enjoy the more compact-sized vehicles so it's not a problem for me.

The minifigures are awesome, except for the ISB Agent reusing Syril's head (still a baffling choice to me) and Dedra's lack of dual-moulding (absolutely hate when they do this, plenty Batmans have suffered because of it).

Now I will build an altar for Dedra. Be right back. 

[MKJoshA]

Stop the talk about prequel vs sequel hate. Last warning.

There's plenty of other, more Lego related, stuff to talk about right now.

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

That's not making the point you think it is

I mean, it made more money than any other R-rated movie, and it was pretty well received with both the general audience and fans of the franchise. You personally may not like it, but that doesn't mean the director's bad. By pretty much any objective metric he delivered a good movie- it made a crapload of money and most people who saw it really enjoyed it.

It's not a godfather-level masterclass in storytelling or something, but not everything has to be the godfather. Star wars has never been the godfather. Levy has delivered extremely successful and entertaining popcorn movies before, I see no reason why him being hired would be an issue. Especially when most of the other directors Lucasfilm's hired created bombs or extremely divided-reception movies and then had their projects quietly cut.

1 hour ago, BrickPrick said:

Yeah, i can imagine many/most adults with feel this way. Well, other than seeing these things chopping down the stuff that truly matters even further (), i don't wanna seriously argue about a format that is clearly intended (this time for real) for kids. If some boys and girls enjoy playing with these Mechs, if it sparks their imagination of what their Star Wars universe can be, well... more power to them. For me, it would take an extraordinary exciting minifig to even make me consider buying one of those things. Either something (timed) exclusive or as a much cheaper alternative. 

To my knowledge, the June sets haven't been officially revealed yet. But don't worry, he mentioned in his video that he got permission from Lego to review these sets as soon as they hit his home. So it's probably gonna be fine. 

That's interesting... I didn't even intended to sound ominous this time around. I just want to scream his long overdue minifigure into existence. 

Yeah- I personally still think they should just be doing small $15 sets, but if they have some sales data showing that the mechs do better than those, and it gets kids interested in star wars, fine, more power to them.

Phew- glad there won't be an issue with that.

The visual of Boss Nass emerging from a bunker just feels menacing to me. He hasn't canonically died- maybe he's been hiding out all this time, waiting for the other sith to be killed.

[Flawless Cowboy]

How in the world is the buildable B1 $130, but K2SO is $90? 

[Darth_Bane13]

5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm not talking about the character, you know that. Had they released a TIE Silencer with Kylo and Rey I think it would have had more of a chance. This is like if in 2020 they said (not that prequel sets ever left) "we're going to explore the potential for clone sets", and then released an extremely simple midi-scale Nu class shuttle along with a Rex helmet that had all of the blue details and the visor stickered on. It's setting them up for failure. 

I don't know if sequel sets would do all that well, but I think they at least deserved a real chance with a minifig set, especially since the demo most likely to be interested is kids. Whatever your opinion on them- and remember, I despise TLJ and don't think TROS was all that good either- it's not Acolyte or Tales or a random episode of visions. It's a literal third of the skywalker saga and it's weird that we haven't had a big chunk of the core characters availible for over half a decade.

That's fair, I'm cool if they make them, I just wouldn't buy any. (I think most people would be in my camp as well)

 

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I mean, it made more money than any other R-rated movie, and it was pretty well received with both the general audience and fans of the franchise. You personally may not like it, but that doesn't mean the director's bad. By pretty much any objective metric he delivered a good movie- it made a crapload of money and most people who saw it really enjoyed it.

It's not a godfather-level masterclass in storytelling or something, but not everything has to be the godfather. Star wars has never been the godfather. Levy has delivered extremely successful and entertaining popcorn movies before, I see no reason why him being hired would be an issue. Especially when most of the other directors Lucasfilm's hired created bombs or extremely divided-reception movies and then had their projects quietly cut.

The movie was terrible, performing well at the box office doesn't make it good. I'd argue ANH and ESB are both in the same conversation as the godfather in terms of the greatest movies of all time. Rian Johnson and Ron Howard heck even JJ Abrams had better filmography than Levy imo. Star Wars needs real talent, a visionary like George.

[BrickPrick]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Yeah- I personally still think they should just be doing small $15 sets, but if they have some sales data showing that the mechs do better than those, and it gets kids interested in star wars, fine, more power to them.

Phew- glad there won't be an issue with that.

The visual of Boss Nass emerging from a bunker just feels menacing to me. He hasn't canonically died- maybe he's been hiding out all this time, waiting for the other sith to be killed.

Nostalgic nature strikes yet again. Lego really used to excel at these smaller sets... they were so damn good deals! Not saying you should be getting two+ minifigs and like 80+ pieces for seven bucks... With today's economic environment, this would obviously be next to impossible. But when you pay medium prices for smaller scale sets nowadays, it's hard not to wish for a middle ground. As it's not that long ago that you still got solid sets in the 20/30 (or even 40) bucks price range. But now these lower price points are more than ever reserved for Microfighters, Mechs and (Super) Battle Packs. Leaving a lot of the other stuff to medium and higher tier prices. We just need that stuff in between. 

I dunno, in any worst case scenario, i imagined him more like a death sticks dealer. 

 

Successfully secured my Star Destroyer with the GWP. Now i am playing the waiting game. 

Edited Wednesday at 10:24 PM by BrickPrick

[AD_Bricks]

Still very high traffic on LSAH, haha. Has anyone else managed to do the memory game in the ~5 seconds before the page refreshed?

[Shiva]

Here it refreshed every 20 second, but less time for the memory game itself. And yes, managed to do it, enough to get tired of it.

Bought what I could afford, from my backup. Where is the much needed lottery win?

[CloneCommando99]

18 minutes ago, AD_Bricks said:

Still very high traffic on LSAH, haha. Has anyone else managed to do the memory game in the ~5 seconds before the page refreshed?

Very high traffic here in the UK too.

 

But I powered through and got the U-Wing, Luke Brickheadz, Clone vs Droid BP, Dropship vs Scout Speeder and Mandalore Ambush. That qualified me for the promo. And will likely be it for me for the rest of the LSW year (unless AC ends up being good)

(My order is currently in the just placed stage. It says I get the promos currently. But could that be subject to change?)

[BrickBob Studpants]

HOLY FRIGGIN SHIT!!!

BABU FRIK IS IN THE AC!!!

I’M TAKING EVERYTHING BACK

[Flawless Cowboy]

Funny. I just opened a few of the early Star Wars advent calendars I ordered off bricklink. They each had at least five humanoid characters, in addition to droids and charming small ship builds.

This one has a 3PO with red eyes, a Santa themed jawa, and the rest are droids or micro figures. The builds look terrible, small parts pack afterthoughts. Grim. 

Edited Thursday at 12:54 AM by Flawless Cowboy

[BrickBob Studpants]

A new piece in an AC is quite a game changer! Love the droid theme going on here. And yeah, getting the TROS Senate and now Babu Frik in the same year is glorious