LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Clone OPatra]

Seems like the V-19 has lost the function that made it so awesome back in the day. Sad.

This wave of sets make me sad generally. There's very cool novel stuff, but the prices are all "sets including General Grevious" level beyond horrendous.

[Flawless Cowboy]

8 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

Seems like the V-19 has lost the function that made it so awesome back in the day. Sad.

And it doesn’t even have landing gear…it’s just a less cool toy overall. 

[Shiva]

32 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

Seems like the V-19 has lost the function that made it so awesome back in the day. Sad.

This wave of sets make me sad generally. There's very cool novel stuff, but the prices are all "sets including General Grevious" level beyond horrendous.

Wait, WHAT function did it lose?

You do not mean that landing gear from 7674? Right? 

[Shiva]

3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Yes. Accounting for inflation, that's about $130. They're charging 54% more for one that, if the leaks were correct, is SMALLER than the previous one.

The dimensions are out there, even in the link I provided. If checking the photos a bit. Yes, it is not as high as the older version. But, I wonder, how much of that depends on the leg positions of both models.

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

I can appreciate your point, fair enough. However, the terrain would be pointless even if you bought multiples of it surely…there was nothing to it. Plus, the rumoured price was a rumour, the actual price may be a result of removing the terrain…who knows! Plus the Spider Droid may have been improved given the parts loss of the terrain. 

But surely getting an additional build is better than not getting that build, right? Like even if you think the terrain is "pointless" (I don't. Why would it be pointless? It's nice to have some terrain for figures to hide behind or pose on), it's more stuff versus less stuff for the same price.

The spider-droid doesn't look any different to me, and while the AT-RT has a few color swaps the build itself looks almost identical as well. And the idea that "Well, maybe it was secretly going to cost MORE than the leaked price, and they had to remove the side build to bring it back down!"... I'm sorry, but that feels like a real stretch and cope. 

1 hour ago, Clone OPatra said:

the prices are all "sets including General Grevious" level beyond horrendous.

I like this metric and will be using it an incessant amount.

41 minutes ago, Shiva said:

The dimensions are out there, even in the link I provided. If checking the photos a bit. Yes, it is not as high as the older version. But, I wonder, how much of that depends on the leg positions of both models.

I'm not sure what I'm missing here. What am I saying that is not correct? Is my math wrong on the price? Is it not, in fact, smaller than the previous version?

[Shiva]

21 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm not sure what I'm missing here. What am I saying that is not correct? Is my math wrong on the price? Is it not, in fact, smaller than the previous version?

A bit smaller.

Well, Faceplate is 1 stud less in height on the new one. 17 vs 16

You see the dimensions clearly on the https://images.brickset.com/news/122758_Marquand 3.jpg

Faceplate width on top is 12 on old, 10 on new. New has a bit different shaping the 4 top studs.

Head sideplate length top, 16studs on old. 14 on new.

Legs are 1 plate less wide on new one.

Old one cockpit is... What cockpit?

Old one has 445pieces less. And new one's plaque and minifig does not take that many parts.

Biggest difference that I can see, is the height of the legs.

Side by side, wich one looks better? And is it really that bad, that the new one is slightly smaller?

Should sets price comparison be by amount of pieces, or the sets weight itself? vs USD?

If by pieces/USD, then price increase is not big at all, from 2006-2025. If comparing set weight? No clue.

 

 

[natsuiro_shiroi]

If no one is going to talk about the absolutely ridiculous price of the 327th Trooper Battle Pack, that's what I'm here for.

Strangers on the internet: $45 USD for a set similar to the $30 USD 75372 "Clone Trooper & Battle Droid Battle Pack" set, and it has even fewer minifigures. This is just madness, and I think that's a soft word to define it.

Personally, I won't be buying a single one of this wave of sets, I feel like the word disappointing doesn't express enough how I feel about Lego. The ideas behind some of the sets are great and have a lot of potential (even those that are massively diminished in size), but whoever is making the decision to increase and increase the price instantly ruins any experience you may have when it comes to even considering buying it.

I won't be sharing images here until they appear on the official Lego website, if you want to investigate it yourself it's already public.

Edit: I'd add that all of this makes it increasingly impossible to build an army of anything just for the fun of it. Initially, the price range was between 10 and 20 euros, the latter amount was already high for a battle pack. But these "expanded" battle packs have risen disproportionately in price in a very short time, suggesting that this trend will get worse and worse as time goes on.

Edited July 2 by natsuiro_shiroi
Adding info

[Clone OPatra]

2 hours ago, Shiva said:

Wait, WHAT function did it lose?

You do not mean that landing gear from 7674? Right? 

The old one had an interconnected function so that the wings folded down and the landing gear folded up, and vice versa, all simultaneously. I believe the new one has wings that must be folded independently and doesn't have landing gear at all.

EDIT: I might be wrong though. There is an arrow on the back of the box between the pic of the side wings folding down and the pic of the back wing folding down. Does that mean they fold together? Hopefully a lifestyle video will tell us soon.

As @Flawless Cowboy said though, it's just a less cool toy.

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I like this metric and will be using it an incessant amount.

You're welcome. That was my benchmark for LEGO pricing that was awful. Sad to say, now pricing that is beyond incomprehensible is becoming common here in Star Wars.

[CloneCommando99]

“Fellow Eurobrickians, friends, colleagues, allies, adversaries. I stand before you this morning with a heavy heart. I’ve spent 1.5 years in this chamber. I came here as a clone fan . And as I look around now, I realise I have almost no memories that pre-date my arrival and few bonds of affection that cleave so tightly. Through these couple of years, I believe I have served my community honourably and upheld our code of conduct. This chamber is a cauldron of opinions and we’ve certainly all had our patience and tempers tested in pursuit of our ideals. Disagree as we might, I am hopeful that those of you who know me will vouch for my credibility in the days to come. I stand this morning with a difficult message. I believe we are in crisis. The distance between what is said and what is known to be fairly priced has become an abyss. Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective affordability is perhaps the most dangerous. The death of affordable pricing is the ultimate victory of evil. When affordable pricing leaves us, when we let it slip away, when it is ripped from our hands, we become vulnerable to the appetite of whatever monster screams the loudest. Lego.com’s hold on the affordable pricing was finally lost in the 2025 August Wave. What took place yesterday… what happened yesterday on Lego.com was unprovoked price gouging! Yes! Price gouging! And affordable pricing has been exiled from this theme! And the monster screaming the loudest? The monster we’ve helped create? The monster who will come for us all soon enough is Clone Bros!” 

(Day #69 of campaigning for a Tie Avenger and a better tomorrow for the theme)

3 hours ago, natsuiro_shiroi said:

If no one is going to talk about the absolutely ridiculous price of the 327th Trooper Battle Pack, that's what I'm here for.

Strangers on the internet: $45 USD for a set similar to the $30 USD 75372 "Clone Trooper & Battle Droid Battle Pack" set, and it has even fewer minifigures. This is just madness, and I think that's a soft word to define it.

Personally, I won't be buying a single one of this wave of sets, I feel like the word disappointing doesn't express enough how I feel about Lego. The ideas behind some of the sets are great and have a lot of potential (even those that are massively diminished in size), but whoever is making the decision to increase and increase the price instantly ruins any experience you may have when it comes to even considering buying it.

I won't be sharing images here until they appear on the official Lego website, if you want to investigate it yourself it's already public.

Edit: I'd add that all of this makes it increasingly impossible to build an army of anything just for the fun of it. Initially, the price range was between 10 and 20 euros, the latter amount was already high for a battle pack. But these "expanded" battle packs have risen disproportionately in price in a very short time, suggesting that this trend will get worse and worse as time goes on.

Welcome to eurobricks. 
Oh we’ve been dunking on the price ever since it was first rumoured and before the price increases. (Even if Lego decided to do this under the cover of tariffs in the US, it logically should still not be that high even in the US, more so in the UK and EU since they aren’t the ones placing tariffs)
Well said. We just cannot let Lego think that this is ok pricing. It’s literally the same box size as 75372. I won’t be buying a single set this wave either since: A) none of them interest me, B) No Tie Avenger, C) prices are atrocious, D) too many buildable characters and E) too many clone sets.

My fellow Eurobrickians! If you must get a 327th BP, please just wait for it to go on sale and don’t get it full price. We should all overpower FOMO this time and teach Lego a lesson. I’m glad that r/legostarwars is calling for a boycott. But many within its ranks are actively replying they’ll still buy multiple day #1. And then there’s the Clone Bros…

We must do whatever we can (sit tight and do literally nothing) to limit the sales of the summer sets, only then will we improve the theme’s balancing and pricing.

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'd assume March, usually they like to get them out a couple months early, right?

KALKITE.

Yeah, and we don’t want to lessen our chances of a Tie Avenger in January. ($70 set I beg)

 

KALKITE! SYNTHETIC KALKITE! KALKITE ALTERNATIVES! KALKITE SUBSTITUTES!

Edited July 2 by CloneCommando99

[CallumPears]

To me the V-19 is downscaling done right. Sleek build, and the figures are honestly beautiful. Still needs a discount though. (How is it the same price as the ARC-170??) 

The battle pack... oh boy. The 327th figures aren't the worst Clones we've had in the past few years, but they're still pretty bad with multiple clear inaccuracies. The walker build is the usual filler slop like they had in the 501st Battle Pack from 2020, but this time in a colour scheme which never existed; at that point just make up a vehicle or use something else since it's not scaled right anyway. Could've been the first fully-accurate Swamp Speeder since 2010 but no they went with this instead. Also, the original leaks had it with a terrain side-build, but I guess that's gone now? Just makes the value even worse, and even with that terrain it was still terribly priced. 

The price of the 327th set is honestly offensive. Please everyone, control your urges and DO NOT BUY it without a discount. LEGO do not deserve to be rewarded for these egregious increases on a set that isn't even that good.

10 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

I can appreciate your point, fair enough. However, the terrain would be pointless even if you bought multiples of it surely…there was nothing to it. Plus, the rumoured price was a rumour, the actual price may be a result of removing the terrain…who knows! Plus the Spider Droid may have been improved given the parts loss of the terrain. 

Sorry I'm not really following here. The terrain was bad, yeah, but it was still something vs nothing. I guess maybe the price could've been higher, but that doesn't make what we got any better (and tbh I doubt that's what happened.  I think they just wanted to skim off as much as they could). The spider droid is unchanged from the initial leak. 

[MKJoshA]

Yeah, I won't be getting a single one of these sets. Even the V-19 Torrent, one of my favorite Clone Wars ships. The prices are ridiculous and with quality continuing to go downhill I'm voting with my wallet. Amazon (at least in the US and France) always has Star Wars sets on deep discount a year after release, especially around Christmas time. I may get a few of these sets around Christmas 2026 when I can get them 40-60% off. But until then, I hope others will follow my example and only buy at a discount. As many of you have said, if we don't vote with our wallets Lego will never change.

[BrickPrick]

Okay, i will try to put this thing into perspective one last time and then i will shut up about it for good. Releasing a set with a 50% (US) price increase just a year after obviously feels offensive to consumers. To make matters worse, offering less while charging more, is always gonna be perceived as a bad deal for people... rightfully so. And i don't blame anyone who hates and criticizes the current pricing policy.

BUT... 33% of the 50% increased price is Lego course correcting. Believe it or not, last year's 75372, was Lego selling you two full Battle Packs in one for 75% the price. As far as Lego Star Wars 2020s standards go, this was one of the rare cheaper sets. It probably sold like hot cakes, too. So, of course, they would evaluate and adjust the pricing the first chance they get. 

As soon as i saw what value the 75372 provides for it's tempting price point, twice a Battle Pack, i knew they would catch up to the price of, well, two Battle Packs for the next one. I know this doesn't make things any better for us. Just saying this price increase, while way too much at once, doesn't exactly appear out of thin air. And that the old Battle Pack price increase from 15 to 20 is the source of this... not the new one on it's own. 

I might be more on the relaxed side of things, because i already made up my mind about this last year... saw it coming miles away. And because i don't get sets for full price, yet never have to worry thanks to comfortable and constantly available discounts, anyways. 

I say, you put the two B1s back in and sell it for 40 bucks. Then it's nothing out of the ordinary and just as expensive as everything else.

[Llewop]

So with the battle pack, the 501st 2020 one was 4 figures, 2 B1s, a walker and speeder, the 2024 had 4 clones, more droids, a speeder, turret and big droid thing. They felt like it was good value especially the 2024 one got all the separatist stuff while adding about £8-9 on to what a normal 4 figure BP would cost. 

I wonder if the fleet troopers vs Stormtrooper anniversary bp was a test to see if they could get away with less figures and higher price? I mean I bought one and figured the extra price was for the anniversary figure which I thought was a bit much but it also Lego store exclusive so knew the price would never go down. 

but now 4 figures, 3 droids and bigger droid build and a walker for the same price as the anniversary one is madness. At minimum to justify the price rise and get similar amount for the set they should have put in a BARC speeder in at least. Or some other kind of swamp speeder or something. I still don’t get the £10 price hike inflation can’t have been so bad in 20 months. The only thing that gives me hope is this battlepack will be in lots of shops and I except it Will go on a big discount.

battlepacks used to be something you could get with a bit of pocket money, now you need to remortgage you house just to get one. A lot of other themes still have the cheapish sets that kids can get with a bit of pocket money but I feel bad for kids today who can’t get these kind of sets. 
 

im glad that a lot of people both here and on Reddit are not happy about the price rise I seem to remember a similar uproar when the Ahsoka clones went up in price and Lego changed it last minute.

[Agent Kallus]

Price per price is not a perfect metric by any means. Different parts vary vastly in size and complexity, Obi-wan's new torso counts s one part but it is make of 5 sub-parts that are put together delicately and 4 surfaces across those 5 parts are printed and then you a 1*1 round tile it's just a 1*1 round tile or how about a massive baseplate? Price per piece acts as if those are all the same. All that said to preface the fact that I know it's a flawed measurement but look at this chart. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DLlkIcuIyJV/?img_index=1&igsh=d21kdTl4d2tuYXVu

Okay I was hoping that would embed. But yeah that's terrible.

33 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

BUT... 33% of the 50% increased price is Lego course correcting. Believe it or not, last year's 75372, was Lego selling you two full Battle Packs in one for 75% the price. As far as Lego Star Wars 2020s standards go, this was one of the rare cheaper sets. It probably sold like hot cakes, too. So, of course, they would evaluate and adjust the pricing the first chance they get. 

You say believe it or not and I do not believe it.

Where are the 2 full battles packs in 75372? I cannot find them. The builds are cool and maybe you could make the argument that the tri droid would one battle pack ( like upatua troopers) and the rest of the builds another. But battlepaxks are minifig heavy sets and 75372? It includes 4 minifigs. That's one battle pack's worth of minifigs. The droids are not minifigs. While the SBDs here did require 2 resurrected molds ( which they could have improved but did not) all their parts are simple. No printing, no sub parts. Every single part of the BD1 battle droid bar the head has been used a regular building brick and can no longer be considered specialised. Even TLG don't pretend that the battle droids are equivalent to minifigs. That why the original droid pack in 2005 came with seven of them not 4 like the clone set.

Yes 75372 was a better deal than the standard BPs available at the time but more expensive sets tend to give you more bang for your buck in terms of parts and builds, that's the way it has been until this wave at least. Also being cynical these larger pack feel like a test of how expensive they can make a battle pack. I'm very glad to see a $10 set in next year's list ( even though I know it won't be a BP) because Star wars is missing cheap sets as it pushes the smaller sets up and hasn't yet has anything to fill that niché ( unless your count the bumper sized magazines, but I don't they're their own beast).

look at 40755 Imperial Dropship vs. Rebel Scout Speeder, it's price is the same as the new star corps pack but it has 6 minifigs, and a printed droid and much more substantial builds. The 27th pack is far closer the £25 set than the £35 one and yet the price says otherwise. Infinite growth is not sustainable, if they're really increase price every year then by £10 is absurd. I know times have changed but I can't help that £10 is on my head the price of a battlepacks.

 

Edited July 2 by Agent Kallus

[BrickPrick]

1 hour ago, Agent Kallus said:

You say believe it or not and I do not believe it.

Where are the 2 full battles packs in 75372? I cannot find them. The builds are cool and maybe you could make the argument that the tri droid would one battle pack ( like upatua troopers) and the rest of the builds another. But battlepaxks are minifig heavy sets and 75372? It includes 4 minifigs. That's one battle pack's worth of minifigs. The droids are not minifigs. While the SBDs here did require 2 resurrected molds ( which they could have improved but did not) all their parts are simple. No printing, no sub parts. Every single part of the BD1 battle droid bar the head has been used a regular building brick and can no longer be considered specialised. Even TLG don't pretend that the battle droids are equivalent to minifigs. That why the original droid pack in 2005 came with seven of them not 4 like the clone set.

Yes 75372 was a better deal than the standard BPs available at the time but more expensive sets tend to give you more bang for your buck in terms of parts and builds, that's the way it has been until this wave at least. Also being cynical these larger pack feel like a test of how expensive they can make a battle pack. I'm very glad to see a $10 set in next year's list ( even though I know it won't be a BP) because Star wars is missing cheap sets as it pushes the smaller sets up and hasn't yet has anything to fill that niché ( unless your count the bumper sized magazines, but I don't they're their own beast).

look at 40755 Imperial Dropship vs. Rebel Scout Speeder, it's price is the same as the new star corps pack but it has 6 minifigs, and a printed droid and much more substantial builds. The 27th pack is far closer the £25 set than the £35 one and yet the price says otherwise. Infinite growth is not sustainable, if they're really increase price every year then by £10 is absurd. I know times have changed but I can't help that £10 is on my head the price of a battlepacks.

First of all, that's fine. 

Well yeah, i know Battle Droids do not count as true minifigures, not even based on Lego's advertisement. But since Battle Packs are supposed to be army builders, i don't necessarily think it devalues this idea of it. The 75372 is, of course, a callback to the two 2007 classic Battle Packs. Granted, those were much cheaper, early days in general, but inflation adjusted (even accounting for less droids) the pricing can't be that far off. 

As for the builds, the Octuptarra Droid would easily qualify for a single BP, while the remaining clone builds, admittedly, would be pushing it. Speederbike would need to be more substantial. But all in all, i see two Battle Packs in there. Albeit in a more cheaper, convenient way for Lego. 

Of course, the new bigger Battle Packs are an attempt whether or not they can squeeze even more money out of people's pockets. That's why this particular price increase doesn't surprise me in the slightest. 

That's a fair point with the Imperial Scout vs. Rebel Scout Speeder. However, given the fact this set is a Lego shop exclusive, means you will see next to no actual discounts, which irons out the actual advantage. Because i wouldn't say this set for 40€ is a better deal than getting the new Battle Pack for, say, 30 bucks. 

And in my little world, BPs should be cheaper than they actually are, too. The original 33% price increase, which didn't even last long, was too much. I just think the order in which you do things, will affect people's perception. If the 75372 was $40 last year and now saw the increase to $45 for the 327th BP, i doubt people would be that mad about it. Despite ultimately paying the same price, you might talk different about it. Because it would be in line with the usual $5 price hikes of the 2020s. 

Edited July 2 by BrickPrick

[TotoMagnus]

The AT-ST I plan to pick up. Not on Day 1, but down the line it will be mine. 
Pricing etc. is comparable (but not excactly) to the UCS A-Wing, so bottom line: I‘m fine with it. A second pilot would have sweetened the deal though. 
 

The rest of the Wave: Nice figures but I don’t need these sets. Especially not with these price tags. Hopefully the majority will vote with their wallets and not in a „I‘ll buy only 9 sets instead of 10, that will show‘em“ kinda way. 

[Shiva]

8 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

The old one had an interconnected function so that the wings folded down and the landing gear folded up, and vice versa, all simultaneously. I believe the new one has wings that must be folded independently and doesn't have landing gear at all.

EDIT: I might be wrong though. There is an arrow on the back of the box between the pic of the side wings folding down and the pic of the back wing folding down. Does that mean they fold together? Hopefully a lifestyle video will tell us soon.

As @Flawless Cowboy said though, it's just a less cool toy.

Ahh, this set has a ... permanent landing "gear", what I see. It is smaller than the previous, closer to minifig scale, skipping the, in my opinion, ugly landing gear from the older model. One can play that it has 1 wing damaged, aka, does not operate as it should, well, I think the 2 wings ain't connected.

[Lordhelmet]

I will not be buying any of these sets, if I was I would wait for a deep discount.

i think the battle pack can be used as the best demonstration of Lego price gouging.

last year the (super?) battle pack was $30 for 215 pieces.  It came with four minifigures, three super battle droids, and two battle droids.  

adjusted for inflation to this year would be $31

the new set has slightly more pieces 258, two less “minifigures” and both had one new molded part.  $45.

 

if we consider that increased Tarriffs played a role, then the tarriff charge would likely have been $4-$5 per set.  (Import price wouldn’t have been at full retail price). So $36.  Let’s say they were complete Jerks and doubled the cost from Tarriffs and added $8-$10 to enhance their profit margin.  That should still only put us at $39 assuming they are increasing profit off Tarriffs.

i cannot figure out how we got to $45 from $30 for the same product in just one year.  Lego is going to need to rethink their business as a whole.  Their competitors are getting better and are half the price, while I don’t buy from their competitors (because of my stupid brand loyalty and that I only buy LOTR and Star Wars) I may stop buying from Lego.  Especially anywhere near full price.  I might pick up the battle pack if it is at 40% discount which roughly translates to a 20% discount off of last years price. 
 

[BrickPrick]

48 minutes ago, Lordhelmet said:

i cannot figure out how we got to $45 from $30 for the same product in just one year.  

Because based on Lego Star Wars 2020s pricing standards (not mine), the $30 set was closest to a $40 set. So now they catched up to this price point and then some. Which, of course, looks utterly ridiculous in such a short timespan. 

 

In retrospect, even though Lego probably didn't plan out every little detail to a fault, it was a clever move to put Battle Packs on ice for a year, only to bring them back with some much appreciated improvements. Alongside a hefty price increase, which then got buried in the excitement. If you let people "starve" long enough, the moment you come back to them, they happily take everything from you.

It was also not the dumbest idea imaginable to finally bring back the infamously requested 501st troopers in an unofficial, more expensive Battle Pack. While also usher in a new TCW era in the process. 

Edited July 2 by BrickPrick

[Darth_Bane13]

10 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

My fellow Eurobrickians! If you must get a 327th BP, please just wait for it to go on sale and don’t get it full price. We should all overpower FOMO this time and teach Lego a lesson. I’m glad that r/legostarwars is calling for a boycott. But many within its ranks are actively replying they’ll still buy multiple day #1. And then there’s the Clone Bros…

Even with the standard 20% sale it will still be overpriced...

[ArrowBricks]

7 hours ago, CallumPears said:

Sorry I'm not really following here. The terrain was bad, yeah, but it was still something vs nothing. I guess maybe the price could've been higher, but that doesn't make what we got any better (and tbh I doubt that's what happened.  I think they just wanted to skim off as much as they could). The spider droid is unchanged from the initial leak. 

Isn’t the rumoured piece count still the same, though? 

[ArrowBricks]

Whilst I do think the MTT is the best in the wave, I am also thinking it’s not getting enough negativity. Perhaps it’s because the logical comparison is the Juggernaut, which it’s far superior. 

It feels it should be £120, maximum. I’ll aim for somewhere between £90 before picking up. I know as a child I’d have loved to buy it along with the 327th BP. I’ll wait for that to go to £20 or so. 

[Darth_Bane13]

1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said:

Whilst I do think the MTT is the best in the wave, I am also thinking it’s not getting enough negativity. Perhaps it’s because the logical comparison is the Juggernaut, which it’s far superior. 

It feels it should be £120, maximum. I’ll aim for somewhere between £90 before picking up. I know as a child I’d have loved to buy it along with the 327th BP. I’ll wait for that to go to £20 or so. 

The front cannons are way too short, the stud shooters are ugly, it only holds 6 droids, overpriced. The last 2 complaints are the biggest problems and hold it back from being a great set imo.

[Mandalorianknight]

18 hours ago, Shiva said:

A bit smaller.

Well, Faceplate is 1 stud less in height on the new one. 17 vs 16

You see the dimensions clearly on the https://images.brickset.com/news/122758_Marquand 3.jpg

Faceplate width on top is 12 on old, 10 on new. New has a bit different shaping the 4 top studs.

Head sideplate length top, 16studs on old. 14 on new.

Legs are 1 plate less wide on new one.

Old one cockpit is... What cockpit?

Old one has 445pieces less. And new one's plaque and minifig does not take that many parts.

Biggest difference that I can see, is the height of the legs.

Side by side, wich one looks better? And is it really that bad, that the new one is slightly smaller?

Should sets price comparison be by amount of pieces, or the sets weight itself? vs USD?

If by pieces/USD, then price increase is not big at all, from 2006-2025. If comparing set weight? No clue.

So,

1. Yes, it is smaller.

2. I don't know in what world $70/54% after  accounting for inflation is "not big at all". Again, that's AFTER inflation. The 2006 AT-ST, accounting for inflation, is $130 2025 dollars. 

18 hours ago, natsuiro_shiroi said:

If no one is going to talk about the absolutely ridiculous price of the 327th Trooper Battle Pack, that's what I'm here for.

Strangers on the internet: $45 USD for a set similar to the $30 USD 75372 "Clone Trooper & Battle Droid Battle Pack" set, and it has even fewer minifigures. This is just madness, and I think that's a soft word to define it.

Personally, I won't be buying a single one of this wave of sets, I feel like the word disappointing doesn't express enough how I feel about Lego. The ideas behind some of the sets are great and have a lot of potential (even those that are massively diminished in size), but whoever is making the decision to increase and increase the price instantly ruins any experience you may have when it comes to even considering buying it.

Edit: I'd add that all of this makes it increasingly impossible to build an army of anything just for the fun of it. Initially, the price range was between 10 and 20 euros, the latter amount was already high for a battle pack. But these "expanded" battle packs have risen disproportionately in price in a very short time, suggesting that this trend will get worse and worse as time goes on.

I totally agree. I think an additional bit that makes this even more absurd, is in between the leaked images and the final images, they removed a side build. You know, because that bit of terrain would totally have made them lose so much money.

I won't be buying any of these either. I might get the firespeeder at discount because it's fun, but most of these I wouldn't get for anything less than 50% off. As Cloneopatra says, the entire wave is "Set containing General Grievous" priced.

18 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

You're welcome. That was my benchmark for LEGO pricing that was awful. Sad to say, now pricing that is beyond incomprehensible is becoming common here in Star Wars.

Hopefully it turns around- I feel like they have to be overplaying their hand here, right?

Sets like the Hoopty or X-jet hit deep sales pretty quickly, and even in the case of things like the X-jet, it was our first time getting any X-men besides wolverine in a decade, so there were plenty of people who were chomping at the bit for x-men no matter the cost. There can't possibly be enough clone bros both rich enough and fanatical enough to pay these prices, especially with how prominent clones have been the past few years.

Edited July 2 by Mandalorianknight

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34 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

So,

1. Yes, it is smaller.

2. I don't know in what world $70/54% after  accounting for inflation is "not big at all". Again, that's AFTER inflation. The 2006 AT-ST, accounting for inflation, is $130 2025 dollars. 

And way more detailed + interior.