LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Llewop]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

And with One Piece unveiled, SW is once again the final August theme to be officially revealed  The leaks satisfy me for the moment, but I‘d like to see more details soon!

Same just want to see more details and pics of all the sets really. Probably have to wait a month. Then we will probably start getting leaks for the Death Star. Hopefully the leakers won’t leak figures one by one for that set. As that would get really tedious especially if there is 40 of them 

[BrickPrick]

11 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

But in the star wars theme two molds can't be the reason it's THIS overpriced/small/underdetailed/etc? We get plenty of new molds every year. Two in one set is a little more than normal, but especially when one will probably see play in more sets, I don't think it comes close to justifying the rest of the set.

To be clear, do not mistake my attempt to even remotely explain this price point for any justification whatsoever. There is just no justification for this. It's one of those test balloons for the fanboys. How far are they willing to go in order to get what they want? In this case, i want what they want... but not at any cost. 

 

On another note, i took the Clone Extravaganza for this year as a possible sign for things to stop rather soon and getting more balance again... Well, i gotta add, that's if Lego doesn't do many PT based or TCW Separatist sets. 

[Lordhelmet]

I have to say, despite getting fewer sets with mini figures and some small nitpicks on the designs Lego has done some really good ones this year throughout the year.
 

can we get the Death Star plans already?

 

Here is my random frequent endorsement of a tie avenger, Lego if your listening.

[starlego98]

On 6/5/2025 at 3:51 PM, BrickPrick said:

It shows that Lego is willing to do some Episode II sets outside of anniversaries again... or at all. So chances are at least not as low as they used to be. Plus they actually cancelled a Zam Wesell minifigure in 2020. 

I could get a good custom Zam minifigure in a few weeks for a somewhat reasonable price, but i'm holding out hope Lego will release the long overdue Bounty Hunter Pursuit remake in the coming years.

As far as I know that wasnt a cancelled Zam Wesell minifigure, it was a prototype for the skywalker saga game

[Swordy]

10 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

They all sacrificed more for the rebellion than fraud Solo ever did.

Maybe, but none of them had to put up with the classic line, “Hyperspace isn’t like dusting crops farmboy. Put in the wrong calculations and we could go through a star or a supernova or a gas giant or a black hole or a moon or a not-moon-but-space-station or a gas giant or a giant gas or General Grevious’s lightsaber collection or the Rainbow Bridge or Krypton or Starkiller Base or the White House or a celestial being in the Indian Ocean or GET OFF MY PLANE, and that’d end your trip real quick, now wouldn’t it?”

I do agree with the surrounding statements, though. The only reason I can offer for why we’ll likely get Commander Doom in 2026 over Nemik is the rule of cool. Not just that clones may be cool-looking than some of those characters—they’re not cooler than Kanan, though—but that clones are “cool” among a fringe of loyal LSW fans.
(Also, the minifig designers could be scared to go outside of the clone template after everyone and their mother rips any and every minifig design to pieces; that might explain why we’ve seen a push toward consistency over integrity to the character… but I’m just spit balling.)

5 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

To be clear, do not mistake my attempt to even remotely explain this price point for any justification whatsoever. There is just no justification for this. It's one of those test balloons for the fanboys. How far are they willing to go in order to get what they want? In this case, i want what they want... but not at any cost. 

On another note, i took the Clone Extravaganza for this year as a possible sign for things to stop rather soon and getting more balance again... Well, i gotta add, that's if Lego doesn't do many PT based or TCW Separatist sets. 

I don’t believe this is a test at all, because it’ll work. TLG knows the market, and knows how many will pay full price regardless, whether it be the over-eager fans or the wannabe YouTubers. Fear (of missing out) will keep the customers in line (to the LEGO store). Discounts may come later, but at that point TLG will have made more on the front half from those diehards who’d want the set in the first place.

 

“Swallow the hard pill now and get better later” approach, huh? It still tends toward imbalance. This is a good year for but a small portion of the community, and the same will hold true if we get all OT sets next year.

As much as themed wave are neat idea, they’re only good if they were juxtaposed to another favourite era early in the year. At this point, with so many sets avaliable, a feat like that would be a near impossibility, so variety is necessary. I argue this wave doesn’t offer much in the way of diversifying the current LSW portfolio/sets on shelves right now.

I’d love some legitimate PT sets. Anything is better than more TCW sets.

[BrickPrick]

2 hours ago, starlego98 said:

As far as I know that wasnt a cancelled Zam Wesell minifigure, it was a prototype for the skywalker saga game

I don't know about this. While this would actually add up quite well with the development cycle of the game, the official description is referring to an "unreleased Zam Wesell minifigure". This sound more like the physical product to me. 

48 minutes ago, Swordy said:

I don’t believe this is a test at all, because it’ll work. TLG knows the market, and knows how many will pay full price regardless, whether it be the over-eager fans or the wannabe YouTubers. Fear (of missing out) will keep the customers in line (to the LEGO store). Discounts may come later, but at that point TLG will have made more on the front half from those diehards who’d want the set in the first place.

 

“Swallow the hard pill now and get better later” approach, huh? It still tends toward imbalance. This is a good year for but a small portion of the community, and the same will hold true if we get all OT sets next year.

As much as themed wave are neat idea, they’re only good if they were juxtaposed to another favourite era early in the year. At this point, with so many sets avaliable, a feat like that would be a near impossibility, so variety is necessary. I argue this wave doesn’t offer much in the way of diversifying the current LSW portfolio/sets on shelves right now.

I’d love some legitimate PT sets. Anything is better than more TCW sets.

One thing does not have to rule out the other. Lego knows the market, yes. They obviously know a Clone Turbo Tank will be a popular choice for people out there. But how would an even higher price point affect those sales? Can they get away with it just fine? They won't know unless they try! That's where the test ballon comes into play. Like they also knew after nearly two decades the X-Wing is one of their evergreen sets that is always supposed to sit on shelves. Yet that didn't stop them to suddenly crank up the price by 20 Euros... Bada bing, bada boom, test ballon. 

Well yeah, just jumping from one extreme (clone craziness) to another (OT overload) would obviously not help matters much in the grand scheme of things. To give some context, my original comment was in response to folks who wished upon more OT sets. I was basically saying if Lego keeps the current pace in which they release TCW sets, the OT resurgence has to happen sooner or later. But i didn't take into account the possible scenario of releasing much more Separatist sets. 

I'd love some more PT sets as well. It has to be a possibility to release some outside of anniversaries (where you still get fairly few) every now and then. Like i said earlier, not everything around the PT has to based on Clones. How many people, who think this year to be the worst in Lego Star Wars history (although that was before the big leaks) would be more satisfied with that, i don't know. 

Edited June 6 by BrickPrick

[Llewop]

7 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

I don't know about this. While this would actually add up quite well with the development cycle of the game, the official description is referring to an "unreleased Zam Wesell minifigure". This sound more like the

 

I thought there was a cancelled set which was the bounty hunter pursuit. But in terms of prototype I know TT used to let Lego produce real figures for the games but Zam would have been for the cancelled set. I kind of wonder what other sets have been cancelled that we never heard of leak wise. 

[Agent Kallus]

I still wonder if they'll officially acknowledge the august wave's clone bias? Summer of Clones could mean we get the Winter of the Jedi or the Imperial Autumn, Spring of the Sith. Or go the American season naming route and we can have the fall of the empire. 

[CloneCommando99]

12 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

Or go the American season naming route and we can have the fall of the empire. 

Perfect opportunity for a 2013 Geonosis style Battle of Jakku or Endor wave.

 

So according to Tony Gilroy, Star Wars is supposedly done with streaming after Ahsoka Season 2. What does that mean for the future of LSW? Will we get more sets based off movies?

[mirkwoodspiders]

10 hours ago, Lordhelmet said:

can we get the Death Star plans already?

Here is my random frequent endorsement of a tie avenger, Lego if your listening.

Yes, please. It's wild how much of a difference that makes with purchasing plans. If the Death Star is good, it wipes out most sets I'm able to get for awhile. If it's poorly executed, that's $1,000 to devote elsewhere.

Along with the advocacy for a TIE Avenger, might I add Luthern Rael's ship to the mix? That'd be a heck of a set.

[Darth_Bane13]

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

So according to Tony Gilroy, Star Wars is supposedly done with streaming after Ahsoka Season 2. What does that mean for the future of LSW? Will we get more sets based off movies?

I guess they'll go back to doing waves of at least 5 sets based off the new movies in 2026-2027. It will probably be like the late 2010s, except now we also get tons of 18+ sets, and a clone battle pack every year.

[Mandalorianknight]

6 hours ago, Swordy said:

I do agree with the surrounding statements, though. The only reason I can offer for why we’ll likely get Commander Doom in 2026 over Nemik is the rule of cool. Not just that clones may be cool-looking than some of those characters—they’re not cooler than Kanan, though—but that clones are “cool” among a fringe of loyal LSW fans.

 

I don’t believe this is a test at all, because it’ll work. TLG knows the market, and knows how many will pay full price regardless, whether it be the over-eager fans or the wannabe YouTubers. Fear (of missing out) will keep the customers in line (to the LEGO store). Discounts may come later, but at that point TLG will have made more on the front half from those diehards who’d want the set in the first place.

I can think of one other reason we might get Doom over Nemik in 2026. Or Doom over most clones of the same tier of obscurity, for that matter.

 

Yup. I really hope I'm wrong, but I think there's enough people following the "no matter how relentlessly we complain we must buy 200,000 copies of every set involving clones" youtubers that it'll sell enough copies despite the absurd price.

[Shiva]

On 6/5/2025 at 1:59 AM, Mandalorianknight said:

Slave One is probably the one ship where I'll agree with @ArrowBricks that it's been downscaled to a damaging extent. It's more similar to something like the Falcon but they're making it smaller than half their starfighters.

I don't have any exast measurements of 75409, but the previous USC was in the scale of about 1:47.8 , while minifig scale is about 1:42. Millennium Falcon 75192 scale is 1:41.369, if using https://brickset.com/article/113611/minifigure-scale-star-wars-vehicles-(2024-edition) measurements.

So not that bad, actually. In my opinion.

[Lordhelmet]

32 minutes ago, Shiva said:

I don't have any exast measurements of 75409, but the previous USC was in the scale of about 1:47.8 , while minifig scale is about 1:42. Millennium Falcon 75192 scale is 1:41.369, if using https://brickset.com/article/113611/minifigure-scale-star-wars-vehicles-(2024-edition) measurements.

So not that bad, actually. In my opinion.

I read the earlier post as the slave one playset coming out later this year and not the UCS one,  I would think thebUCS one is one of the best scales of any Star Wars ship (alongside any other truly minifig scale ones)

[Mandalorianknight]

59 minutes ago, Shiva said:

I don't have any exast measurements of 75409, but the previous USC was in the scale of about 1:47.8 , while minifig scale is about 1:42. Millennium Falcon 75192 scale is 1:41.369, if using https://brickset.com/article/113611/minifigure-scale-star-wars-vehicles-(2024-edition) measurements.

So not that bad, actually. In my opinion.

I'm talking about the playset, not the UCS set. Hence why I said it was smaller than half their starfighters.

Edited June 7 by Mandalorianknight

[CloneCommando99]

5 hours ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

Along with the advocacy for a TIE Avenger, might I add Luthern Rael's ship to the mix? That'd be a heck of a set.

And an Army Trooper BP, and a ISB Tactical shuttle. Season 2 has so much set potential that it’s a real shame.

(Day #44 of asking for Lego to make a Tie Avenger)

[BrickPrick]

13 hours ago, Llewop said:

I thought there was a cancelled set which was the bounty hunter pursuit. But in terms of prototype I know TT used to let Lego produce real figures for the games but Zam would have been for the cancelled set. I kind of wonder what other sets have been cancelled that we never heard of leak wise. 

I always wondered how close the collaboration between Lego and Travellers Tales was when making all these Lego installments. I mean, all those never been made minifigures that are playable in the Skywalker Saga look so damn good... when they eventually do release, i would want to look just like that. And if they actually used to do do real figures for prototyping, it's even more of a shame we only got Blue Milk Farmboy Luke for the Polybag. 

[ArrowBricks]

On 6/4/2025 at 7:23 PM, BrickPrick said:

Thank you. Hey, if you don't mind me asking, do you actually have a Colemon Trebor minifigure in your collection? 

That is a story for another day. Let’s just say that I wouldn’t mind a new Coleman Trebor soon enough. 

On 6/5/2025 at 12:59 AM, Mandalorianknight said:

Slave One is probably the one ship where I'll agree with @ArrowBricks that it's been downscaled to a damaging extent. It's more similar to something like the Falcon but they're making it smaller than half their starfighters.

I’ll convert you to my side, soon enough! 

On 6/5/2025 at 5:27 AM, Kit Figsto said:

I think that the downscaled stuff was perfect around 2020-2021 when they first started doing it.  That was the year of the $50 X-Wing and $40 TIE, which were fantastic.  Much more similar to the older 2000s models, but updated techniques and nothing felt over-engineered.  The ships were also simply getting too big.  The Solo TIE Fighter was like $70 and was just massive for no real reason, so a downscaled version was great.  The problem has been that we're either getting stuff that's downscaled but somehow is the same piece count as before (the ARC-170, for example, which I think actually has more pieces than the previous version despite being smaller) or stuff that doesn't need to be downscaled.

I agree, it worked well for really common ships we see year-in-year out. I really don’t know why they haven’t moved to the Sequel Trilogy for their X-Wings, Tie’s as I think they’d sell well given the lower price point. 

Smaller ships, bigger prices, worse quality. That’s how I characterise the vast majority of the sets. Heck, we even got the wrong Bib Fortuna mould in a $500+ UCS set, so what hope do the smaller ones have!

That being said, I do like the summer wave from what I can see so far, except the prices. If the MTT and Turbo Tank were £120, maximum then I would say they are good sets. The bigger question is why LEGO are currently pricing (or unable to price them any less at RRP) well beyond the price per piece - which I argue is a good benchmark for understanding value. I always use the Elite Clone Trooper BP as the case study for new moulds, and the corresponding very low price point. The MTT doesn’t have enough big pieces and new moulds for such a price hike, and the decision to use brick built wheels surely would have balanced with the new Bacara, Galactic Marines regarding the Turbo.

When LEGO inevitable up-scale the sets again, it will make the return that ever bit sweeter. I just can’t help think they lost millions with their decisions in the past 3-4 years. 

Edited June 7 by ArrowBricks

[Brickadeer]

I wonder why Lego makes no UCS models of the CTT and the MTT.

[Llewop]

2 hours ago, Brickadeer said:

I wonder why Lego makes no UCS models of the CTT and the MTT.

I presume because it would be like the gunship. People would want it minifigure scale and come with a million different clones/droids/separatists and all people would do would be complain about it. I can’t see why they couldn’t do it the same way they did with the ucs AT-AT and have battlepack to accompany it to fill either vehicle up. Then are they as iconic as other vehicles from SW? In the films the MTT is only really in the first film and isn’t really the most prominent trade federation vehicle featured and the CTT gets what a few seconds in RoTS and a few more in R1. 

 

[Brickadeer]

36 minutes ago, Llewop said:

I presume because it would be like the gunship. People would want it minifigure scale and come with a million different clones/droids/separatists and all people would do would be complain about it. I can’t see why they couldn’t do it the same way they did with the ucs AT-AT and have battlepack to accompany it to fill either vehicle up. Then are they as iconic as other vehicles from SW? In the films the MTT is only really in the first film and isn’t really the most prominent trade federation vehicle featured and the CTT gets what a few seconds in RoTS and a few more in R1. 

 

Both get screentime in The Clone Wars series, but you're right, I seem to confuse "UCS" with "large scale playsets", like the Sandcrawler no. 75059 or the Ewok village set no. 10236.

So in both cases - the CTT and the MTT - I'd like bigger vehicles combined with a adequat amount of minifigs.

[ArrowBricks]

8 minutes ago, Brickadeer said:

Both get screentime in The Clone Wars series, but you're right, I seem to confuse "UCS" with "large scale playsets", like the Sandcrawler no. 75059 or the Ewok village set no. 10236.

So in both cases - the CTT and the MTT - I'd like bigger vehicles combined with a adequat amount of minifigs.

Bingo, me too. But perhaps a little cheaper, maybe the £220 price point. 

[Llewop]

44 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said:

Bingo, me too. But perhaps a little cheaper, maybe the £220 price point. 

I’d argue we need Lego to focus on making cheaper sets more at the £22 point lol.
 

Considering CTT  and MTT is going to be 150 what’s another 70 quid going to get you in terms of size and scale? 

[CloneCommando99]

49 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said:

Bingo, me too. But perhaps a little cheaper, maybe the £220 price point. 

By today’s pricing that would just be the size of the 2010 Turbo Tank 💀.

4 minutes ago, Llewop said:

I’d argue we need Lego to focus on making cheaper sets more at the £22 point lol. 

Agreed. Small speeders, locations and duels need to make a return.

[Darth_Bane13]

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Agreed. Small speeders, locations and duels need to make a return.

I liked when they were doing those $20 duel sets. They could remake the Yoda vs Count Dooku duel from 2002, Obi Wan vs Darth Vader ANH, etc.