LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Renny The Spaceman]

30 minutes ago, lego the hutt said:

This is very short sighted to only give credit to one person.  Especially with the George example, you should be crediting writers and directors and artists etc.  You are under valuing the contributions of others.

Yeah, comparing films to books isn't an apt comparison. Very famously the version of Star Wars George originally tested horribly and was substantially re-edited by his then wife to make the film we know today. Whilst Tolkien fully wrote and determined everything in how the Rings trilogy of books was done there was substantial push and pull and changes from how George envisioned the films and how the people he worked with changed various elements of it.

[TheScaryDoor]

On 4/25/2025 at 8:29 AM, BrickBob Studpants said:

I hate to say it, but after that scene from S2E3 (iykyk), I‘m not sure if TLG will be willing to revisit Andor ever again. Besides follow-up sets to the shows being the exception rather than the norm anyway

On 4/25/2025 at 11:13 AM, THELEGOBATMAN said:

I mean, it's a series for adults, and it's not like it wasn't apparent before.

If LEGO made a set after Season 1, I don't see this affecting the chances of more sets (which are, anyway, really low).

In a another way the OT had also dark scenes (Vader, Jabba) but those felt more like fiction than the scene in Andor. And Lego has a +18 market. Therefore I think this scene won't rule out further sets (e.g. B2EMO or Fondor as part of the Starship Collection like the MF).

Edited April 27 by TheScaryDoor

[BrickPrick]

So, as far as Advent Calendar's go, i am okay with them. I like the occasional silly figure to place on a extra section of the baseplate. So i don't mind those ugly christmas sweaters. Even though this thing is a little played out at this point. And they simply can't hold a candle compared to the original special figures like Jango, Maul, Vader etc. 

However, when it comes to the minifigure selection, i would wish the Calendar's to be a little more versatile. Getting one fig per faction (at least the main four) is perfectly fine. And i do appreciate it when some of the rare figs like the Cloud Car Pilot shows up. But it would be nice to have some of the more obscure characters in there as well. Certain characters who would otherwise be difficult to put in a regular set. Or just already existing, more popular figures in unique outfits. 

Now, of course, it's not reasonable to expect new moulds for an item with a shelf life this limited. And since it's meant for kids and families, it might need a renewed or shared focus... or not. Because if you look at how successfully they do the Harry Potter AC every year, putting exclusive figs left and right without making it a mere AFOL product, it could work for Star Wars as well. Just a couple of new prints here and there would go a long way. 

Edited April 27 by BrickPrick

[Shiva]

On 4/25/2025 at 8:29 AM, BrickBob Studpants said:

I hate to say it, but after that scene from S2E3 (iykyk), I‘m not sure if TLG will be willing to revisit Andor ever again. Besides follow-up sets to the shows being the exception rather than the norm anyway

 

27 minutes ago, TheScaryDoor said:

In a another way the OT had also dark scenes (Vader, Jabba) but those felt more like fiction than the scene in Andor. And Lego has a +18 market. Therefore I think this scene won't rule out further sets (e.g. B2EMO or Fondor as part of the Starship Collection like the MF).

S2E3 scene? Not so different, really, vs what we seen, even in the animated series, movies, etc. If that scene been a "Nope" from LEGO, then there would not have been any Star Wars made by LEGO, at all. Ever.

One man we might have to thank, for keeping SW alive, after the first film, might very well be Irvin Kershner and not George Lucas.

Turbo Tank? seems a lot of rumours, but nothing really concrete about it? What was the possible release date for it?

 

[BrickPrick]

44 minutes ago, Shiva said:

 

S2E3 scene? Not so different, really, vs what we seen, even in the animated series, movies, etc. If that scene been a "Nope" from LEGO, then there would not have been any Star Wars made by LEGO, at all. Ever.

Turbo Tank? seems a lot of rumours, but nothing really concrete about it? What was the possible release date for it?

 

Yeah, when i think this thing through, the commotion seems to be a little exaggerated. The scene deals with something we never saw in Star Wars on screen before. So the shock value is undeniably strong with this one. But like you said, it doesn't really go beyond much of the stuff we witnessed numerous times via various media before.

TCW was supposed to be suited for kids, yet featured many scenes with decapitations, torture and so on. But that didn't stop Lego making many, many sets anyways. 

The Turbo Tank releases this August. 

Edited April 27 by BrickPrick

[Tariq j]

1 hour ago, BrickPrick said:

However, when it comes to the minifigure selection, i would wish the Calendar's to be a little more versatile. Getting one fig per faction (at least the main four) is perfectly fine. And i do appreciate it when some of the rare figs like the Cloud Car Pilot shows up. But it would be nice to have some of the more obscure characters in there as well. Certain characters who would otherwise be difficult to put in a regular set. Or just already existing, more popular figures in unique outfits. 

Now, of course, it's not reasonable to expect new moulds for an item with a shelf life this limited. And since it's meant for kids and families, it might need a renewed or shared focus... or not. Because if you look at how successfully they do the Harry Potter AC every year, putting exclusive figs left and right without making it a mere AFOL product, it could work for Star Wars as well. Just a couple of new prints here and there would go a long way. 

Yes, I’ve always hoped for more obscure figures in the calendars. I think the 2016 one came with U-3PO? And the 2013 one came with a Young Boba Fett (who at the time had not appeared since 2002). It would be nice to get more characters who wouldn’t usually appear in sets. 

I’m really not sure what to make of that Turbo Tank wheel. Someone’s posted a comparison photo and the 2016 and 2010 versions look so much better. 

 

[Shiva]

57 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

Yeah, when i think this thing through, the commotion seems to be a little exaggerated. The scene deals with something we never saw in Star Wars on screen before. So the shock value is undeniably strong with this one. But like you said, it doesn't really go beyond much of the stuff we witnessed numerous times via various media before.

TCW was supposed to be suited for kids, yet featured many scenes with decapitations, torture and so on. But that didn't stop Lego making many, many sets anyways. 

The Turbo Tank releases this August. 

Ahh, August, I'll try to remember that. Altho, the figures might be more interesting than the vehicle itself?

Not seen TCW yet, well, mostly not. Bad Batch I did watch and I liked it + got the few sets that came out. Even Rebels, watching season 1 now, have... quite a bit of violence, etc.

Bad Batch, those sets I got for the figures + to part out for Marauder (Bad Batch Shuttle) Ultimate Play-set Scale MOC by 2bricksofficial. Not quite minifig scale, but close.

Forgot to write in earlier posts. George Lucas, has had his hand in all 11 of the so far released SW movies. All 3 trilogies, Solo and Rogue One.

Edited April 27 by Shiva

[BrickBob Studpants]

I like those brick-built wheels quite a bit! Sure, they take away some of the pieces from the main build, but I‘m not gonna judge it before we actually see it

[BrickPrick]

54 minutes ago, Tariq j said:

Yes, I’ve always hoped for more obscure figures in the calendars. I think the 2016 one came with U-3PO? And the 2013 one came with a Young Boba Fett (who at the time had not appeared since 2002). It would be nice to get more characters who wouldn’t usually appear in sets. 

I’m really not sure what to make of that Turbo Tank wheel. Someone’s posted a comparison photo and the 2016 and 2010 versions look so much better. 

 

Yes, the U-3PO is often mistaken to be Episode II C-3PO, who would be an easy choice as well. And with the re-release of young Boba Fett you bring up yet another possibilty to deliver a more varied line-up of AC minifigs. And on a more obvious note... Movie/Show themed calendar's could (or should) absolutely be a thing. This way you would tie it all together. 

In fact, Lego did that once with the 2021 Mando one. While neither the actual figs nor their overall amount were anything to write home about, it proofed to be quite a popular choice for people. Locally speaking, it was sold out across nearly every major shop in a matter of weeks and was generally hard to come by. Of course, Mando hype peaked at that point of time and that definitely gave it a push forward, but i have never seen an AC on such high demand before. 

48 minutes ago, Shiva said:

Ahh, August, I'll try to remember that. Altho, the figures might be more interesting than the vehicle itself?

Not seen TCW yet, well, mostly not. Bad Batch I did watch and I liked it + got the few sets that came out. Even Rebels, watching season 1 now, have... quite a bit of violence, etc.

Bad Batch, those sets I got for the figures + to part out for Marauder (Bad Batch Shuttle) Ultimate Play-set Scale MOC by 2bricksofficial. Not quite minifig scale, but close.

Yeah, the minifigures will heavily carry this set for the more mature audience.

If you don't mind watching a few out of context spoilers for the series, i recommend watching videos titled "TCW is a kids show", or something along those lines. There is a whole row dedicated to them. One way or the other, you will get the idea. 

Edited April 27 by BrickPrick

[CloneCommando99]

1 hour ago, Tariq j said:

I’m really not sure what to make of that Turbo Tank wheel. Someone’s posted a comparison photo and the 2016 and 2010 versions look so much better. 

 

What I find funny is that the supposed wheel build is literally just the middle leg joint of the 2022 AT TE with one extra layer.

2 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

But it would be nice to have some of the more obscure characters in there as well. Certain characters who would otherwise be difficult to put in a regular set. Or just already existing, more popular figures in unique outfits. 

*inhales*  MARA JADE!!!!

Jokes aside, I agree. I would love to see more exclusive in universe characters in ACs.

Mara Jade, Gallius Rax, Captain Fordo, ARC Trooper Alpha, Crosshair, Mara Jade, Doctor Aphra, Jaxxon, Commander Pyre, Norra Wexley, Major Partagaz, Mara Jade, Scorch, Light side Ventress, Jedi Temple Guard, Mara Jade, Jedi Training Leia, Captain Pellaeon, Sol, Quimir, Darth Nihillus and Mara Jade would all make great AC figures.

 

(Wow, by going through some of these characters I’m reminded that Young Leia (Coughing baby) was a horrendous choice for a female anniversary figure. It wasn’t even the best variant of Leia they could have chosen.)

 

 

3 hours ago, TheScaryDoor said:

In an another way the OT had also dark scenes (Vader, Jabba) but those felt more like fiction than the scene in Andor. And Lego has a +18 market. Therefore I think this scene won't rule out further sets (e.g. B2EMO or Fondor as part of the Starship Collection like the MF).

I sincerely hope you’re right. I need more Andor sets.

Speaking of which: Day #8 of asking for a official Lego Tie Avenger.

Edited April 27 by CloneCommando99

[Kaijumeister]

10 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Speaking of which: Day #8 of asking for a official Lego Tie Avenger.

Lego: Best we can do is a Buildable Luthen Rael’s Wig.

[BrickPrick]

46 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

*inhales*  MARA JADE!!!!

Jokes aside, I agree. I would love to see more exclusive in universe characters in ACs.

Mara Jade, Gallius Rax, Captain Fordo, ARC Trooper Alpha, Crosshair, Mara Jade, Doctor Aphra, Jaxxon, Commander Pyre, Norra Wexley, Major Partagaz, Mara Jade, Scorch, Light side Ventress, Jedi Temple Guard, Mara Jade, Jedi Training Leia, Captain Pellaeon, Sol, Quimir, Darth Nihillus and Mara Jade would all make great AC figures.

 

(Wow, by going through some of these characters I’m reminded that Young Leia (Coughing baby) was a horrendous choice for a female anniversary figure. It wasn’t even the best variant of Leia they could have chosen.)

 

 

I sincerely hoped you’re right. I need more Andor sets.

Speaking of which: Day #8 of asking for a official Lego Tie Avenger.

Don't worry, i've got you covered... i just had a nice chat with my imaginary uncle who knows someone who used to work for the Lego Star Wars design team in 1999. And Legends () have it that a Mara Jade minifigure will in fact be officially made for the brand's 30th anniversary. You heard it here first. 

I am too lazy to go in-depth about this right now, but my list would be at least as long as yours. Although many of those characters would require new head moulds, which make them not very likely candidates for an AC inclusion. 

Sweet Bantha Poodoo, i didn't like her inclusion from the very get go. Like, it's such an odd choice for an anniversary figure. Not too sure about the pink Astromech Droid, but every other minifig is a character we have never gotten before. Cal Kestis, Fives, Saw Gerrera etc. are all great choices. And than you have an shoehorned, uninteresting version with young Leia, which just feels totally out of place...  yikes. There would have been better alternatives from even the Kenobi Show, like the Fourth Sister.

 

Just hang in there, man... If we are trying to be rational about this thing, our chances for another Andor set were very low to begin with. At the same time, i'm not convinced the recent events made those odds any lower than they already are. Other than that, let's not forget Lego has an obsession with 18+ sets these days. =)

35 minutes ago, Kaijumeister said:

Lego: Best we can do is a Buildable Luthen Rael’s Wig.

While this is supposed to be a joke and i find it funny, the thing is... If such a set releases sometime in the future, would anybody be surprised at this point? 

Edited April 27 by BrickPrick

[Shiva]

23 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

While this is supposed to be a joke and i find it funny, the thing is... If such a set releases sometime in the future, would anybody be surprised at this point? 

Buildable Luthen Rael’s Wig? Yes, I would be surprised.

[Darth_Bane13]

9 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Why exactly? If I want to see horror sci-fi, I‘ll watch a horror sci-fi film. Not sure what a SW horror film could provide that horror sci-fi doesn‘t already have. The victims wearing familiar armour? Implementing the force somehow? I honestly don‘t see the appeal here  Horror elements and tropes have been done in SW before, but an entire R-rated movie just feels off.

Star Wars has taken from other genres before, even copied movies like Seven Samurai (twice) and Dances with Wolves. I just think having it be set in Star Wars would be cool, similar to how the Mandalorian is inspired by classic westerns, seeing it set in Star Wars is neat.

9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

The thing (haha) is I don't think we need Star Wars alien or thing when we have Alien or thing. I don't mind novels like Red Harvest or Death Troopers as I think that the novels and comics aren't to the same standard as the onscreen media. I'd also be ok with something like the Screaming Citadel arc in the first run of canon Marvel SW comics, where it has spooky/gothic themes but is still primarily a Star Wars story rather than a horror story set in the star wars universe.
I also think that marvel is different- it as a universe is much more varied. It's universe first rather than story first, and it also has hundreds of different universes of characters, which can vary wildly in tone and characterization. It's how you can have a Logan (2017) about a character kids used to watch in X-men cartoons. This is also where I get into stuff like the marvelization of star wars- that's often used to just mean "quippy and lots of crossover" but in my case here I mean it as treating star wars as a universe in which any level of story or tone can be dropped in. This is personal preference but I prefer my star wars to feel like star wars, and to be within a rough range of tone and story type. This isn't to say I want it to all be homogenized- I think Clone Wars is a great example of the variety of tones you can get that all feel like star wars- but there's a limit to what I think should be allowed in star wars. I don't think star wars should have full on R-rated horror, or sexual content, or R-rated levels of graphic violence. That's not to say I'm against them in media in general- two of my favorite shows are Invincible and Netflix's Daredevil, which are both known for graphic violence and contain more explicitly sexual content than I'd want to see in star wars- they just don't fit what I think Star Wars should mean as a story.

It doesn't have to literally be the same story, it was just an example of something similar they could do. I probably should've used Death Trooper or Red Harvest as a better example, as you said. I get your point about the tone and feel of Star Wars but to me they already ruined that with TLJ and subsequent media. Also as I said they make so many shows nowadays it's basically the same as Marvel, I'm not sure how many times they can keep retreading the same formula when they release 3 shows a year.

[Mandalorianknight]

7 hours ago, TheScaryDoor said:

And Lego has a +18 market. Therefore I think this scene won't rule out further sets (e.g. B2EMO or Fondor as part of the Starship Collection like the MF).

We know that the 18+ market doesn't translate to "we can make sets with a maturity level for only adults", it's more of a marketing gimmick. There's some leeway- we know from the Daily Bugle spider-man set designer that they could make the comic versions of characters associated with adult television such as Daredevil or Punisher, but the issue with Andor is it's not like Syril and Dedra are popping up in kids' cartoons alongside the more mature content.

7 hours ago, CallumPears said:

Yeah I've given up on following the modern comic run with all that stuff. 

As for Advent Calendar figures, I basically view them the same way as RTG, Freemakers, etc. I prefer when they're just normal figures that might be too obscure for a regular set, but if they do make them Christmas-themed then at least have some parts I can salvage for customs. 

I think all the droids turned evil and tried to take over the galaxy, which is funny because a lot of the same characters involved in that story are involved in a novel that takes place later with basically the same plot and nobody ever mentions that this happened like five years earlier (because the novel came out first). It's sad that star wars comics fell into the marvel "EVERY YEAR NEEDS A BILLION MASSIVE EVENTS ADVERTISED AS FOREVER CHANGING THE STATUS QUO (they'll be reverted to normal within a year)" trope.

Fair- I give the advents a little more slack since it's not a normal set so I can get why they'd be christmas themed, but I do dislike the OC characters from the RTG/Freemaker/Yoda Chronicles sets. At the very least I think the new prints created for them should work for other characters- slap Dash Rendar's jacket on the RTG kid, or give him a Cal poncho or something.

4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I like those brick-built wheels quite a bit! Sure, they take away some of the pieces from the main build, but I‘m not gonna judge it before we actually see it

There's just no way it's good at this point, though. It has so few pieces that it either is using massive underdetailed parts and ends up looking like a 4+ turbo tank, or it's a consistent level of detail for LSW2025 and looks like a $100 set being sold for $150-160.

4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

What I find funny is that the supposed wheel build is literally just the middle leg joint of the 2022 AT TE with one extra layer.

Jokes aside, I agree. I would love to see more exclusive in universe characters in ACs.
Speaking of which: Day #8 of asking for a official Lego Tie Avenger.

GAR engineering at it's finest- remember, if someone says something is military-grade, that is NOT a compliment to it's quality.

It would be a nice way to get legends characters out there and add some desirability for fans who aren't interested in christmas sweater characters.

4 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

Lego: Best we can do is a Buildable Luthen Rael’s Wig.

I hate that part of me unironically thinks this would be a fun meta display to show off the collector's disguise in my collection.

2 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Star Wars has taken from other genres before, even copied movies like Seven Samurai (twice) and Dances with Wolves. I just think having it be set in Star Wars would be cool, similar to how the Mandalorian is inspired by classic westerns, seeing it set in Star Wars is neat.

It doesn't have to literally be the same story, it was just an example of something similar they could do. I probably should've used Death Trooper or Red Harvest as a better example, as you said. I get your point about the tone and feel of Star Wars but to me they already ruined that with TLJ and subsequent media. Also as I said they make so many shows nowadays it's basically the same as Marvel, I'm not sure how many times they can keep retreading the same formula when they release 3 shows a year.

My issue is that I don't think "it's already been ruined" is a good reason to just give up and do whatever. People thought SW was ruined after the prequels, and then TCW 2008 carried that (at the time) half of the entire franchise on it's back and got a lot of people to turn around on the era. Everything is salvageable. As I've said before I think we need something radically different once stuff like TMAG and Starfighter bring back public goodwill, but I don't mean radically different in terms of edgy or ultraviolent or horror. I mean a different setting with different characters, not just retreading what the GA's seen three times now. I mean, of course, Kotor. Full-scale armies of jedi and sith. All the bells and whistles.

[CallumPears]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

At the very least I think the new prints created for them should work for other characters- slap Dash Rendar's jacket on the RTG kid, or give him a Cal poncho or something.

Exactly! And it was really nice how that Yoda Chronicles scout fighter gave us the first RA-7 protocol droid and the first Ithorian. 

I also liked when that one Freemakers set was basically a TIE Phantom, and Jek-14's fighter being an E-wing (though the colour schemes on both could've been better to make them actually usable in their original contexts, especially the E-wing). 

As I've mentioned before I'm even ok with the figures just having generic SW-aesthetic outfits since at least those can be reused for random civilians (even then it doesn't exactly make them a selling-point for the sets), though I particularly hated when the Freemakers had that ugly hand logo slapped on them as it really limited the reusability.

[RichardGoring]

With the May 4th offers coming up, the 4x points on the 75367 Venator is tempting. Could anyone that has built it comment on the build experience? I don't really know the Venator at all, but I like the imposing nature of some of the UCS sets and they can often be great to put together. Is this a fun/satisfying/clever build, or is it just big? All the reviews tend to focus on the look of it, accuracy, and endless discussion about a minifigure, but only JANG mentioned the build experience as being 'OK'. Comments on build experience would be greatly appreciated, thank you!

[Tariq j]

8 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

. And on a more obvious note... Movie/Show themed calendar's could (or should) absolutely be a thing. This way you would tie it all together. 

In fact, Lego did that once with the 2021 Mando one. While neither the actual figs nor their overall amount were anything to write home about, it proofed to be quite a popular choice for people. Locally speaking, it was sold out across nearly every major shop in a matter of weeks and was generally hard to come by. Of course, Mando hype peaked at that point of time and that definitely gave it a push forward, but i have never seen an AC on such high demand before.

Yes that could be quite fun. Or you could have calendars based of certain trilogies (Originals/Prequels/Sequels) or a calendar based of all the animated shows (CW/Rebels/TBB) etc. Even versions of existing characters (Like Endor Han or TLJ Leia) would be pretty cool. I feel like Mon Mothma would be a good choice for an Advent Calendar still insane we have got an updated version of her yet.

[BrickPrick]

7 hours ago, Shiva said:

Buildable Luthen Rael’s Wig? Yes, I would be surprised.

Okay, maybe i would be surprised, too. The word i was looking at was shocked. As i doubt it would be shocking to me anymore. Lego just confused me one too many times with their set picks as of late, i guess. 

50 minutes ago, Tariq j said:

Yes that could be quite fun. Or you could have calendars based of certain trilogies (Originals/Prequels/Sequels) or a calendar based of all the animated shows (CW/Rebels/TBB) etc. Even versions of existing characters (Like Endor Han or TLJ Leia) would be pretty cool. I feel like Mon Mothma would be a good choice for an Advent Calendar still insane we have got an updated version of her yet.

Yes, anything really. Lots of possibilities to fill the gaps for every era of Star Wars. A yearly themed Advent Calendar would also help making minifigures less predictable. 

 

The official box art for the Death Trooper & Night Trooper Battle leaked at the usual places. Nothing too surprising after the confident images leaks. The build is... yeah, what it is. As a non-canon vehicle, it kinda reminds me of the old micro Gunship. But whatever... It's a Battle Pack. Even if the build is more noteworthy than this, i don't care terribly much for it. Minifigs is where it's at. And yep, i quite like those. It's nice the Night Troopers both got different helmets and torsos. Also good to have some new Death Troopers back after all this time. Will definitely get this, but not at day one. Never have since the 33% price increase. 

Edited April 27 by BrickPrick

[CallumPears]

26 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

The official box art for the Death Trooper & Night Trooper Battle leaked at the usual places. Nothing too surprising after the confident images leaks. The build is... yeah, what it is. As a non-canon vehicle, it kinda reminds me of the old micro Gunship. But whatever... It's a Battle Pack. Even if the build is more noteworthy than this, i don't care terribly much for it. Minifigs is where it's at. And yep, i quite like those. It's nice the Night Troopers both got different helmets and torsos. Also good to have some new Death Troopers back after all this time. Will definitely get this, but not at day one. Never have since the 33% price increase. 

I'm still very disappointed with the figure selection they went with. 

I swear there are some things which LEGO constantly does wrong while the rest of us are stood here screaming at them for how blatantly obvious the better way of doing it should be.

It's a battle pack with elite troops and generic troops. Make it 1 elite and 3 generic, not 2 of each. They've been getting that wrong for over a decade at this point. 

Especially since they didn't even bother to give the Death Troopers unique damage markings. And we see way more white-helmet Night Troopers than grey-helmet ones so it really should've been 1 DT, 1 grey NT, 2 white NTs. 

Still not a fan of the new Stormtrooper helmets but whatever. GCC just released some very nice custom ones in the old style (I'm definitely getting a couple of those Artillery Trooper ones to replace mine) and hopefully they'll have a couple of different Night Trooper designs on the way soon. 

I'll still get it at some point, probably just 1 copy to not overload myself with too many of the Death Troopers. I still like the design of them, and want those zombie heads for other stuff too. As you say it definitely won't be day 1 though. I haven't paid full price for a battle pack in years, and for this one I'm factoring in the extra cost of the GCC helmets. 

[AD_Bricks]

30 minutes ago, CallumPears said:

It's a battle pack with elite troops and generic troops. Make it 1 elite and 3 generic, not 2 of each. They've been getting that wrong for over a decade at this point. 

I get where you're coming from, but I don't think this really applies here in the same way it would to a BP with truly wacky trooper ratios (sith trooper BP), because most people buying this set are only going to buy one, and if there was only 1 death trooper, those people would only be able to get one of them. When you buy multiples you do end up with 50/50 generic/elite, which is frustrating, but in cases like this where the death troopers aren't going to be included anywhere else, I do think there have to be 2 of them. In my case, I'll probably just buy one of this one and end up with 3 night troopers and 2 death troopers, which I'm happy with. While on a larger scale it would be ideal if the generic troops outnumbered the specialists, I think just having 2 of each, which will be the case for most people, isn't that bad.

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

The official box art for the Death Trooper & Night Trooper Battle leaked at the usual places. Nothing too surprising after the confident images leaks. The build is... yeah, what it is. As a non-canon vehicle, it kinda reminds me of the old micro Gunship. But whatever... It's a Battle Pack. Even if the build is more noteworthy than this, i don't care terribly much for it. Minifigs is where it's at. And yep, i quite like those. It's nice the Night Troopers both got different helmets and torsos. Also good to have some new Death Troopers back after all this time. Will definitely get this, but not at day one. Never have since the 33% price increase. 

I actually like the ship- obviously it doesn't work for the canon size, but there weren't really better options besides a rubble pile or making stuff up. I also think it looks fun and it's impressive that they've managed to get a battle pack build to hold 5 figures, one of which is fully enclosed by a cockpit.

Same here on that last bit- I'll be waiting for a discount, though I'll probably end up getting a few since I do like the mini Laatles.

1 hour ago, AD_Bricks said:

I get where you're coming from, but I don't think this really applies here in the same way it would to a BP with truly wacky trooper ratios (sith trooper BP), because most people buying this set are only going to buy one, and if there was only 1 death trooper, those people would only be able to get one of them. When you buy multiples you do end up with 50/50 generic/elite, which is frustrating, but in cases like this where the death troopers aren't going to be included anywhere else, I do think there have to be 2 of them. In my case, I'll probably just buy one of this one and end up with 3 night troopers and 2 death troopers, which I'm happy with. While on a larger scale it would be ideal if the generic troops outnumbered the specialists, I think just having 2 of each, which will be the case for most people, isn't that bad.

I think his view makes more sense for this specific set. Thrawn only had 2 death troopers at that point in the timeline. He had plenty of night troopers. I think in general the people who are trying to collect the accurate number of death troopers probably also want more than two standard night troopers- 2 and 2 is optimizing it for a group I think is vanishingly small- people who want both night death troopers but don't want many night troopers at all.

I'll be buying 2-3 copies on discount, primarily because I love the little beetle LAATles they came up with. The DT parts will be used for custom scavengers and I guess zombies of some form.

Edited April 28 by Mandalorianknight

[AD_Bricks]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think his view makes more sense for this specific set. Thrawn only had 2 death troopers at that point in the timeline. He had plenty of night troopers. I think in general the people who are trying to collect the accurate number of death troopers probably also want more than two standard night troopers- 2 and 2 is optimizing it for a group I think is vanishingly small- people who want both night death troopers but don't want many night troopers at all.

Ah, fair enough. I'll retroactively change my view on that to 3-1 would have made more sense than 2-2 I guess, but for my personal situation I'm happy with how it is since I don't plan on buying duplicates.

[CallumPears]

2 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

I get where you're coming from, but I don't think this really applies here in the same way it would to a BP with truly wacky trooper ratios (sith trooper BP), because most people buying this set are only going to buy one, and if there was only 1 death trooper, those people would only be able to get one of them. When you buy multiples you do end up with 50/50 generic/elite, which is frustrating, but in cases like this where the death troopers aren't going to be included anywhere else, I do think there have to be 2 of them. In my case, I'll probably just buy one of this one and end up with 3 night troopers and 2 death troopers, which I'm happy with. While on a larger scale it would be ideal if the generic troops outnumbered the specialists, I think just having 2 of each, which will be the case for most people, isn't that bad.

Strongly disagree. 

Anyone who wants Night Troopers surely wants more of them than the Death Troopers. And as the set currently is, 2 Night troopers is not enough for a decent made-up battle, nevermind accuracy to scenes in the show, so they would want multiples of the set.

I'm not even talking about large-scale army builders since they can afford to waste their money. I'm talking about kids who don't want to waste half of their pocket money on useless extra Death Troopers if they buy even 1 additional copy to get more troops (I'm speaking from experience here with the 2017 Rogue One Death Troopers + Stormtroopers pack and the 2018 Jedi + Clones pack). And there's the issue of half your Night Troopers having the grey helmet.

Even for the people who do get only a single copy, I still think a 3:1 ratio would've been far far better as that's actually a decent make-up for a squad (3 troops and 1 elite to lead them).

I just feel like if the subset you described don't care about having more than 2 Night Troopers then they certainly shouldn't care about having more than 1 Death Trooper.

Those people "only being able to get one" is an arbitrary choice they made. Want more Death Troopers? Buy more sets and you also get more of the regular troops which it actually makes sense to have multiples of. Don't force the rest of us to pay for a bunch of useless extras. (And not only are we getting useless extra Death Troopers, we're ALSO getting fewer Night Troopers.)

At the very least, if they really were committed to the 2:2 ratio, they should've used different designs for the Death Troopers. 

 

Sorry if this is a bit rambly; it's nearly 4am here lol. 

 

I guess I should technically be in the camp of favouring more Death Troopers since I despise the Stormtrooper helmets and will probably only get 1 copy of the set myself (unless GCC come in with some great replacements, and even then I might still only get 1 copy BECAUSE of it having too many Death Troopers), but I just feel like from the perspective of the designers (who obviously don't feel that way about the Stormtrooper helmets they themselves designed) it makes no sense. I really just feel like they have no idea what they're doing sometimes. 

 

Predicting it now: the advent calendar will have ANOTHER Death Trooper (like what they did with the Clone Commander nobody wanted multiples of a couple of years ago).

Edited April 28 by CallumPears

[Llewop]

The build for the battle pack is ok, but I see this going on sale very quickly. I’m tempted by the Death troopers but to be brutally honest they’ll end up in the magazine at some point this year/next year so I might just get them from that or even on eBay/bricklink. 

i know im not alone here but if these were normal Death troopers and normal stormtroopers this set would be perfect.