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10 replies to this topic  – Started by Legonardo , Mar 22 2012 05:35 AM

#1 Legonardo

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:35 AM

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Hello classic pirates!
Last year I began constructing a brigateen for the royal navy
However this was destroyed to make space (and bricks) for the guilds of historica. for some reason I can't focus on the building of the third challenge and decided it was time for a break, so 2 days ago I started re-building the HMS Gladiator
now to start the other side (inside's a total mess), finish the deck and start rigging! I hope to have it finished within a fortnight, I hope that's not unrealistic, as I might enter this in the jolly roger III contest which means I'll need to build a small pirate ship too!
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For 2 4 days I think I've done all right, but there is something that bugs me about it, not sure what, so I am asking for feedback from the experts. I want this to be accurate to the era of ships. It won't have an interior as my parts are limited. The other thing I would like is possibly a sail/rigging plan for a brig of the 18th century. Please post soonish as I want this done by the second week of April so I can get cracking on challenge 3!
I know I am asking a fair bit but it would be very much appreciated if you could.

Edited by Legonardo Davidy, 13 April 2012 - 05:40 AM.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 11:28 AM

Hello there! This is already a great ship. I would suggest reducing the curve a bit as it is a wee bit steep for a ship of the size of a brig. The forecastle of the ship should also be flattened and closed towards the jib boom so that a completely walkable weatherdeck would be the result. A  I would also reduce the headrail and bring it more in line with the ship's curve. A beakhead of an 18th. century British sloop-of-war would also normally not be ornamented or have a figurehead (at least not of that size). As it is now there seems to be a little "peak" in the curve.

As for the rigging: The basic rigging layout can be found here. When you have constructed the masts in their final configuration, make another picture and post it. The rigging of a sloop-of-war is very individual so we might be able to give better advice then.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:30 PM

Hello, short comment. The shape is lovely, the colours great, the ship looks really nice, however the stern isn't so good (I also have problems making the stern  :pir_laugh2:) I don't think the windows are the best choice. If you look on the tutorials here there is a great tutorial on how to build a Frigate, that's really helpful  :pir-classic:
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 09:26 PM

From what I see so far it is looking very good. I think you are on your way to building a fantastic ship! :pir-sweet:

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:18 AM

Great ship already!  I agree with Horry on everything but the curve; I think it's perfect, not to big at all if you compare it to plans of say the HMS Speedy. I'm only not sure if she needs such a large tumblehome (although part of it is that she's too tall and thus looks like a larger ship thus needing tumblehome): and I would build a more curved front, I don't think ships this small had a head. Hope that helps.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:01 AM

First of all: Great ship! Nice color scheme and a good shape.  :thumbup:

But I also have to agree with halfpenguinhalflego here. The stern doesn't look too well, especially the windows. It looks too dark on the back.

But overall great ship so far, looking forward to see the final product.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:56 AM

Thank you for your feedback, glad you like it
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Horry I think I have a sail plan in mind, would you know of any rigging plans? when I built Athena I just random ly tied rope from one area to another, and I would this time like to make it realistic and accuratly

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:07 PM

Well for the rigging it depends on the number of sails you want.
3 on each mast would be pretty reasonable, just like the Lady Washington. This one has 4 sails.
Important things to notice are how the spanker sail yard is placed just below the main "crow's nest", and the main mast (closest tot the stern) has no sail on the main yard (the one on the bottom).
For the bow you could look at this or this ship in lego, or google on brig Amity or Niagara.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:54 AM

I agree whit everyone else that the stern is needing total reworking IMO. Also a couple of gunports 2 or 3 on the sides wouldnt be bad idea. Also, if you want to, you can always search some pictures from google from Pirates of the Burning sea's Lexington Brig wih is a grea model of the brig around 1680-1720 or so.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 09:29 AM

Thanks everyone, this has really helped.
the sail plan will be similar to that of the lady washington, just without the main staysail, the fore topmast staysail and the sprit sail.
I was thinking about adding studdin sails but i have put that aside.
I am happy with the bow now, the original design was similar to what Admiral Croissant showed me, but I prefer this. if brigs didn't have this please inform me but I have seen this on many ships before and I like it a lot
I too would love to upgrade the stern but am not sure how. I would love to have suggestions from you but bear in mind that my parts are limited.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:44 AM

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once again sorry for the image quality, in the background you can see our wonderfull new zealand weather
C&C welcome and appreciated!

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