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Yes, and it could still fall down on it's functionality, so I'm mad keen to find out what that's like.

I have also come to the same opinion. This is, for me, the single best looking creation ever made from Lego bricks, from any time, from any theme, from anywhere. Now that is only my opinion and to be fair to the MOCcers, this is as it should be. A Lego designer can make a whole bunch of new panels and helicopter rotors in lime green to match their car, so they have the advantage. But still, that shouldn't detract away from the excellent job they have done. Not necessarily, as Lego has a habit of making these blades without any aerodynamic geometry for creating lift they will probably be the same both sides.

I think it is a new part, a new rotor blade for the Bell helicopter as it looks shorter than the current, rubber tipped ones we have now.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be any colour coding. Indeed, if every pin, axle, gear, connector and beam was black it would be quite boring. I'm just saying they need to tone the colours down by quite a lot. You can still have all the same colour coding as we have now just using far more tasteful colours than bright red, blue, green, orange, and so on. I've also seen and heard of intelligent people messing up modern builds with 1 piece per step instructions and extreme levels of colour coding, but doesn't that just prove the point that colour coding isn't that effective? If mistakes are still happening then it really is time to try something else, like having more numbered bags and more realistic gearboxes, which happen to be far simpler. The gearbox in the picture I posted above is from a real F1 car, and it's core is far simpler than that of the Lego Chiron. Surly that would be a better way of reducing mistakes and/or minimising the impact of mistakes that are made. Anywho, feel free to continue the colour coding argument, I'd rather not continue to pollute this topic with it (unless of course the gearbox has purple or pink in it, then all hell's gonna break loose!)

I wonder if the pistons inside that engine are bright yellow with tan and bright red crank shaft . Some tasteful colour coding can work well. The colour coding of the main track drives in 42100 don't look too bad, they could be better but at least it's not like the all terrain crane or Chiron gearbox .

I see the insides of machines and service/repair them most days of the week as part of my job. They are not multicoloured. Having said that you can still fully colour code something without resorting to bright, ugly and garish colours like the Chiron or 42082. As for the age on the box being 18+, I do think it's cool for Lego to want to make these sets accessible to younger builders, I just think that you can go too far with the kiddie colours in such a premium set.

Well I guess it depends how you store you Lego pieces. If you don't have that many sets and you keep them all in one unsorted box (like I think most of us started out doing) then yeah, finding pieces is hard. I remember those days of constantly sweeping my hand through a big box of Lego trying to find that one piece! But I would argue that colour coding doesn't make it easier. At least that was my experience. If you have progressed to having your parts sorted then you're all set. Coding becomes even less needed. But Like I say, there is room for some level of colour coding and still have it feel like a premium set, by having more naturalistic colours. Gears and wave selectors don't need to be bright red, blue and orange. Ah, well maybe you are on to something there. To be honest when I sort through pieces I can mostly do it by feel and not even look at the piece to know what it is. So maybe you are right in that respect. But still, why all the brightness of the rainbow?!I Is there really no middle ground between having it feel like a premium collectors set and something made for 5 year olds?

Ugh, not the colour coding debate again! All I'll say is that colour coding on the inside of a model sucks because it makes whatever mechanism I am building look like a toy for 5 year olds, which is fine for smaller sets, but for sets aimed at 16, and now 18+, that I'm paying a very premium price for, a premium set aimed at adults (yes it is) I wanna feel like I'm building a real miniature gearbox, not something that's made for 5 year olds. And as for finding pieces easier, I don't think colour coding is that effective. I've had sets with lots of colour coding and sets with no colour coding, and honestly I don't feel like there's much difference. And in terms of reducing mistakes, we still see a lot being made, Jim is still putting his diff in backwards in 42070 . What does make a big difference for me is to reduce the size of the pile of parts you are looking through at any one time by having more numbered bags. So instead of having 20 bags numbered 1 to 4, have 20 bags numbered 1 to 20. Basically, take the number of pieces in any given set, divide that number by around 200 or so, and that's the number the bags should go up to ideally. And in places where colour coding might be of any use () then use a colour that looks natural. No need to use lime green in the bowls of the chassis of the Chiron, or bright orange wave selectors or bright red and blue gears. With black and 2 shades of grey (and tan and white only where needed), that's 5 colours, what more do you need to still have nice and clear instructions?

I wonder who took this picture, and if there's a way to ask them for any more pictures, like the parts list, or a shot from the instructions of the gearbox. I'm just really excited to see more of this beautiful creation. I can't stop looking at it! I'm really anxious to know if the mechanics are a step up from the Chiron or is this just a pretty shell.

Well this looks fantastic! I am so glad it isn't olive green, not that keen on lime but prefer that to olive, and imagine the cool emergency vehicles that can be made. I'm also really glad for the new wheel arches and the other new panels. This looks way better than the MK version IMHO, and dare I say better than the Chiron and the Porsche? I think so but that might be because of my own bias towards Lamborghini. This really reminds me of 8880 more than any other Technic car, which is good! Now I wait in baited breath, will the internal mechanics of the car be as good and as authentic as the car looks? If they are, this could finally be the one to dethrone 8880 for me!

I really hope they are NOT going to do mobile versions of rides. I hope they stick to their current style of more full on theme park rides.

Yeah I don't think the Lamborghini box will be much different from the others. But I can think of a possible way to make it more adult oriented, and that's to make it like the sets they had growing up, like 8868 or 8880 for example, with the flip up lid and clear plastic allowing you to see all the parts, with some parts in the special bits tray! I feel like all the sets of the 90s had more premium packaging than the premium sets of today. But hey, it's only the box. The model itself is what's important.

Well now I've seen more, I like it.....quite a lot actually. While I still would have preferred a ride with more movement over a static building (still hoping for a huge swinging ship with the drive wheels at the bottom like a real one, or an enterprise ride, or NEMESIS!) for what it is, they did a great job, and for the sake of those wanting to build a complete theme park, like Alton Towers (my favourite) it's a good addition. But I have noticed a few comments elsewhere online which I think are kind of weird. Some people were commenting things like: 1) there should be multiple floors 2) the minifigs should be able to go in the attic 3) there should be more standing/living space inside the house 4) or the minifigs should look more scary 5) there should be a baron minifig included, .....and so on and so on. Now this might be TLGs own fault for putting the words "haunted house" so large on the box. Because these commentators don't seem to realise that this is not in fact a haunted house, like the monsters fighters house was. What this set is, is a drop tower theme park ride made to look like a haunted house, not an actual haunted house. You would think that having the words "fairground collection" also on the box would clue people in to that, but you know how some people are. That is why... 1) There aren't multiple floors, because it's not a house where people (or ghosts) live, it's a theme park ride. 2) The minifigures can't go into the attic, because it's a theme park ride. The stuff in the attic is themeing meant to be viewed from the floor, or through the windows of the drop tower as you ascend. 3) There isn't more standing/living space, because it's not a bloody house, it's a them.....you know the rest! 4) The minifigures don't look scary, because they are either regular people at a theme park or they are employees in costume 5) There is no baron minifig included. Why would there be? Even to the minifigs visiting the ride, the Baron character is a fictional character that probably died 100 years ago. I suppose you could have a minifig that represents an employee of the park dressed in costume as Barons ghost, but the fact that he's not seen and kept in mystery, except for a cursed painting, is much better IMHO. Maybe it would have been better to have "fairground collection" be a little more prominent on the box, and then below the large haunted house text have the words "drop tower ride", just to really spell it out. Actually I think I remember reading somewhere that the original carousel and the fairground mixer aren't considered to be part of this theme, which makes sense. If we were to include those we would have 6 sets in total, two of which would be similarly sized carousels, which would be weird, and the fairground mixer just feels too small and lacking any sense of grandeur to fit in with this theme, much like the original ferris wheel set 4957 and the pirate roller coaster.

I'd be very surprised (and disappointed obviously) if there were no more pneumatic sets, even as soon as next year. They are clearly well liked by fans and they have invested quite a lot in new cylinders, valves and so on. And with all the pneumatic tubing in 42100, I was surprised by there being no pneumatic sets this year.

I would like the first time I see it to be a nice clear image from TLG rather than a leak, but TBH, I'm more interested in seeing the transmission than the car itself!

Yeah but to be fair if someone starts a new topic people complain that there's already a topic about it, so what's a guy or gal to do?

Look forward to seeing it properly.

I forgot I wrote that, but I agree with you agreeing with past me 100%

But there is a "dumb" hub coming ain't there?

Man I hope so!!!

I think they are using the word "fairground" to mean any kind of amusement or theme park, from temporary travelling carnivals to major attractions like Alton towers. Personally I'm glad they seem to be favouring the larger permanent rides over the smaller mobile versions. Take the fairground mixer set for example (which AFAIK isn't considered part of this theme). Being a small mobile carnival ride they had to make that ride fit onto minifig scale trucks, so it's kinda small and pathetic compared to the much more badass version they could have made. They could for sure make such rides, like the travelling carny mixer or a flying carpet ride and so on, and I think they would make a great compliment to the fairground collection, but they should be released as part of the city or regular creator themes (like the fairground mixer and pirate coaster was). That way you can have multiple theme park rides released in a single year and the fairground collection can focus on these large, expert builds. As for this particular haunted house, while I would have preferred a ghost train type ride (like they had at Alton towers before they turned into a laser shooter type thing) who knows, maybe the drop tower will make it worth while.

I'm kind of torn on the haunted house. On the one (negative) hand, it seems kinda boring. The other sets in the fairground collection had lots of big, clearly visible movement. So large versions of more dynamic rides like a topspin, swinging ship or the enterprise at Alton towers would be better than a static building. If there is a drop shaft elevator type ride contained within then that helps it a little depending on how well it is executed, but the pictures so far indicate it's a rather small part of the overall set. On the other (positive) hand, the fairground collection as it's now called has very quickly become my second favourite theme (after Technic) and I really like that it's got its own name and that Lego are continuing with it. And while a haunted house might not be the most exciting ride they could have done, it is kinda essential in any complete collection of rides so I guess there had to be one sooner or later. Would have been nice to have more mechanical delights, like a train that goes round a flat track, setting off mechanised jump scares as it goes, but we'll see. Maybe this drop tower thingy has a proper ride feel to it, with a slow rise to the top, then a free fall followed by some way of bringing the riders to a safe and gentle stop. The other sets have good a pretty good job of accurately replicating the mechanisms and motion dynamics of their real life counterparts, so I hope they have done the same here.

Looks like they put Lego tyres on the real Sian

Here's a thought, the Lego teaser heavily emphasizes the lights. Now it's likely that's because it mirrors the real lambo poster, but I don't think adding lights is entirely out of the question.

Well, yeah, it's us adults buying these expensive, collectors edition versions of these toys so obviously we want them to satisfy our needs and wants. These UCS Technic cars are toys like a quad bike is a toy. Both are pricey objects of fun enjoyed mostly by people too old to be called children. Being a toy doesn't mean it's necessarily just for kids, some toys can have adult appeal as well. For me, for this range of UCS supercars, my want is a gearbox that works like a real one, with two main shafts and all the gears in a line, in a very compact unit, not the few dozen shafts the Chiron has in its far too complicated gearbox that fills most of the car! That's my want, but not my expectation. I'll wait and see what the final result is before making any judgement.