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BIONICLE was launched in the US in summer 2001, and according to TLG employees, the US was far and away the largest market for BIONICLE sets and media, so I don't think comparing the theme's soft launch in Europe with the hard launch of HF world-wide entirely accurate.
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Disagree entirely. The gold masks, the obviously redesigned original kanohi, the element-specific backgrounds, the "hunt for the masks" looking packaging? Reboot. Tahu is even lava surfing on the package. This will be a hard reboot with new versions of the old characters doing something new. No way it's a continuation at all. Not a chance.
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Excuse us for following LEGO's explicit communication and not allowing illegally obtained images be discussed. One of our former admins isn't in charge of the team that reports misbehaving sites to corporate at TLG like EB's is. I guarantee you BZP will have a more important role to play as 2015 draws nearer. EB may have a more active community, but the fact remains that for constraction BZP out-classes and out-activities all other communities by several magnitudes.
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It went somewhere.
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No, but I'll be at the one in NY in October, so I'm hoping IF the line comes back and IF they announce it somewhere it'll be there.
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They did indeed. Though the relevant part to this topic is the "last wave of HF" part.
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I bought several of the line from the Portland, OR LEGO store this past week. I like them! (And to top it off, the employees were telling me they expected this to be the last wave of HF ever, since "BIONICLE is coming back".)
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It already is not the same BIONICLE if we get a reboot. I don't think you are grasping that. Also, there are several alternate universe Marvel characters with different genders- female Nughtcrawler exists in one continuity, Antonia Stark, the Ultimatr version of Vision is female, etc. not to mention your other examples are not accurate entirely either. Batman is Thomas Wayne in one continuity, Gwen Stacy is Spider-Woman instead of Peter being Spider-Man in one universe, etc. You sure ate trying really hard to discredit the idea of a female Tahu, even though several franchises have done similar things. Kind of weird, honestly.
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I'm assuming a complete reboot, personally. Based on the leaked information, yeah. Complete reboot. And I don't think Takanuva will have anything to do with anything. That bottom image still looks like Kopaka to me.
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In a new universe you can do whatever you like. In the Ultimate universe, Nick Fury is black. The Vision is a woman. Things in a new universe can do whatever they like, it is a new thing. Your examples of other Tahus is off- those were the same character- in a reboot this will be a brand new Tahu unfettered to the old one. New choices, new challenges, new surroundings, etc. this will not, in a reboot, be the Tahu you were attached to. This happens all the time in other media franchises.
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IF, and I think this is most likely, the series is rebooted, it already won't be the same Tahu you already were attached to. It'll be a similar character with the same name in a similar setting, but it won't be THAT Tahu. It'll be a new one. Why not a female version? She would already be a new character. Echoes of the past, sure. But new.
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That sounds fine my me, and I'm a huge fan of both series (in case my fanhood of the latter wasn't obvious). (Also, I'd make a pretty great woman.)
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The problem was that the fans who were deeply invested in the storyline's complexity were often those who cared for the story- but not the sets. The story was important to fans and to TLG, especially as the first real in-house story-driven theme with an intense multimedia focus. But it was only important as to the point it caused fans to purchase sets. Too many of the fans deeply wrapped in the mythology didn't purchase sets.
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It is okay, EB looks silly itself to a lot of LEGO fans, and has its own problems with sexist nonsense. And you are right- the rest of the greater community of bionicle fans thinks this discussion us dumb- because it shouldn't be a discussion. Bionicle had a problematic gender ratio that was harmful to female fans and purposefully undermined its own rules to avoid adding female characters. Dorek: really? Overly hostile and attacky? Come on. This conversation is ridiculous and over-the-top. The moment someone throws a loaded term like "SJW" into the mix, they have made their comment into a near-parody. Over-the-top snark is warranted and deserved. And again, I'll point out you would rather police an arbitrary tone distinction than deal with a salient point, and that is infuriating. I know way too many folks who are way too turned off by EB'a boys club mentality to wade into this themselves, but they are no less fans than you or I just because they are women, they deserve to have their voice heard, and they are angry and hurt, and you are pretending to be a voice of reason while invalidating their experiences. Frankly I expect better. I am rather tired if the idea that talking about gender in BIONICLE is silly. When the line returns, and I fully believe it will, and I fully anticipate a reboot based on the info we have thus far, I dearly hope for the removal of mono-gendered tribes. The removal of the no romance policy. While it may have been marketed to boys, nothing says the new line has to be, and this is an opportunity to truly listen to fans. The inclusion of female characters doesn't have to be a sales hindrance- I just finished Avatar: TLA for the first time, and I am still in awe if the incredible wealth if female characters. There is no reason our franchise couldn't do that.
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Right. Parody, snark, and sarcasm have no place in the public sphere- invalidating ideologies that don't deserve respect is a waste of time and we should, instead, validate every single backwards and hurtful belief system. Sorry, no. Snark is not counterintuitve- it serves a purpose, and that purpose is to point out how dreadfully awful a comment is. "I don't like social equality" is a dumb statement. I'm not validating that. Some people seem to think the only valid conversation BIONICLE fans should really have is "which set is coolest" or "what character do you think was the most powerful" or "what is the coolest plot point", but actual criticism is both valid and important, and I will not let some backwards thoughts or misgynistic attitudes ruin that. I'm sorry you don't like the tone, but I don't like the message and critiquing one and not the other is ridiculous. Playing tone police just serves to validate ingorant behaviour, because it is almost exclusively used to shut down outrage and righteous indignation because for some reason people shouldn't be angry or passionate about lack of representation. The lack of female representation in BIONICLE is a mess. It is tragic. It is hurtful. And to say "this conversation reeks of SJW and I don't like that" is both priveleged and ignorant, and together those make a conversation that is hostile to those same people looking and asking for representation. People complain about adding more female characters to the canon or to the sets, and then complain when girls aren't interested in their hobby they excluded them from to begin with.
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Yeah man, I don't like people being concerned about representation in modern media either! And I certainly don't want to include female fans, like the one I live with and am nearing a marriage with, to be able to see herself represented in the most important media line of her entire life. Like, people outside of the mainstream target audience should just be glad we even let them talk, am I right?
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Are Inika builds really that awkwardly-proportioned?
dviddy replied to Lord-Vorahk's topic in LEGO Action Figures
I don't know where you've spent most of your time (though it sounds like either DA or MOCpages), but the main branch of the constraction mocing community has done the opposite. If you employ overly-inolved technic built limbs with system bits thrown on to cover every connection or gap or whatever, those of us who are "more advanced" are going to look poorly on you. At one point in the community's advancement, I think building custom limbs and understanding how to make those work, how to make them functional and proportional, was an important part of the process, and probably intensely necessary. Now? No. I'm looking for character and style, with aesthetic value and good colouring. Too many of the intense technic-heavy humanoids all look the same, and because of the ticky-tack building style, look jumbled and messy as a result. The point here, though, is that I've been deep in the community for a long time (since the beginning), and a lot of the things you're saying don't ring true to my recollection. We've wanted more human-proportioned sets and MOCs since nearly the beginning, and the long-arms on the Inika style builds have been complained about since the Mahri debuted. I don't agree that the original toa or the metru had the same proportions- as my -chiir brethren said, proportions aren't solely based on limb-lenght, but limb-to-torso length. The mata may have had arms just as long as their legs, but I'm looking at my collection of original Toa on top of our tv right now0 most have weirdly accurate arm length in proportion to the torso. Elbows at the navel, wrists at bottom of torso, etc. Wayyyyy more visually proportionate than later sets. Same story with the Metru. -
Are Inika builds really that awkwardly-proportioned?
dviddy replied to Lord-Vorahk's topic in LEGO Action Figures
That mentality for the central BIONICLE MOC community came through well before the line's waning years. By the time the Mahri came through, the "big names" or the "big movers and shakers" had well moved past the "all custom all the time" mentality, though I have noticed that splinter communities, the DAs, the MOCpages, etc, seem to have missed out on all the innovations and ideas developments from that era. And as someone who has been thoroughly involved and shaped the constraction MOCing community pretty strongly since the beginning, we have been trying to figure out perfect humanoid proportions since the beginning. -
Weirdly I think your kanohi comparison with Tahu is off-base. The original six Great masks, I feel, have a smooth, clean aesthetic that works marvelously with HF shells. The over-detailed masks of later years were never as iconic or as well-designed as that first wave, and I think the simple lines and smooth textures are the reason, and I think that lends them well to the HF system. Of course, the molds for the original masks are gone anyway, so newly designed masks will have to happen for anything and everything but the hay if we want to see the original designs.
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Suicide is a serious topic, and saying you would kill yourself over a LEGO set decision is a little trivial.
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Not while the online community relations manager for LEGO is a former EB admin. Sorry didn't see the next page. Moving on.
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They are a requirement to continue receiving support from LEGO. I don't know why or how EB gets away with posting and discussing leaks (though I have conspiracy theories), but everytime we've tried to loosen it up, we get a message from LEGO reminding us of their leaked images policy.
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On the point of the mispelled word, I work for an international, multi-billion dollar corporation, and they send out promotional materials that have typos or mispelled words all the time. Typos and spelling errors are easy to make and sometimes hard to catch. I don't think it's a point in either direction, besides to point out that, at some point, a human typed that.
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I've been staring at this image for wayyy too much time, and even then, I've not only been able to find only a HF chest plate and the HF lightning bolt piece used on the new Chima Laval set as fire on his blade as recognizable pieces. I feel like MOCs or photoshopped previous sets would at least have something to easily identify them, you'd be like "look, a Metru thigh" or something. Also that is definitely not 2008 Takanuva, no way, no how, everything about it is the wrong proportion, design aesthetic, shape, etc. I'd rather it was an 08 Takanuva because then we could just be done with the whole thing, but it's not.
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In regards to the AFOL communication asking for MOCs in the past, I have been in contact with TLG every time they have sent those feelers out to community members and sent in MOC photos as well. But from what I have been told it isn't that none of us were good enough- they have simply changed course each time and not actually needed us.