Hinckley

It's not too late. You can certainly still respond to it. You didn't mention suspicions about Uhura at all yesterday. Why not? Sulu's interactions with Chekov ended up with Chekov being dead. So Sulu orchestrated all of that? What's Scummy about how Sulu's interactions with Chekov ended with Chekov dead? I don't disagree with your conclusion, but your logic in this sentence is a bit of a bumpy road for me. Chapel and Mallory were just both in here, didn't post, went dormant, went active again at the same time, are looking at Day Two at the same time. I know this is super metagaming but I don't like seeing activity match up like that... There are only 4 game days to look over...and McCoy is currently perusing Day Three. I need to go to sleep soon. People, do stuff.

I think it's fixed now. I transposed McCoy and Mallory Day Two votes. I'm not even getting anything from it. 18 hours left to vote?

Jesus, it's not even correct. Hold on... I can't even figure out how I messed it up.

Here's what I'm working on so everyone has it to analyze. The number in parenthesis is the number vote on the day, the number in bracket is the number vote for that player. The hammer is highlighted in red, the bandwagon in pink and the votes we know as Town are bold in green text:

It's been a long day here, so I realize not much makes sense with this point. The lynch of Chekov was solid by the time Sulu voted and it was clearly not a hammer vote. Not sure how my brain cross-wired so badly, but if you could just skip over this. I'm trying make sense of the voting patterns of the first three days. I'll make a more clear analysis in a bit.

My initial Scum read, before her activity today, on Uhura was the quiet, confident, laid back way in which she dropped in and voted...and unvoted...and joined bandwagons. And if she knows who is who, she just kind of let us lynch Townies. Her general attitude seems non-committal. There's not much there, but it's a pretty solid flying-under-the-radar game. And saying I "delivered" the lynches is just as asinine as saying I "led" them as I've demonstrated earlier, we voted in close proximity on Days Two and Three. So, have you not been delivering us Townie lynches? You hammered Kyle. Why has nobody voted yet?

Oh well, never mind then.

I have more on Uhura but I'm having a very busy day.

I guess you can say I led a lynch if you are actively waiting to see who I will vote for. On Day Two I "led" the lynch because Sulu and Uhura waited for me to vote and then followed suit. Weird, though, that they both seem to state their own reasons. Well, Uhura does. Sulu just kind of summarizes what others have said. Sulu softly accused Mallory twice with little to no mention of McCoy. When Uhura votes he says there are two people that won't vote for eachother unless utterly pushed. If she's Scum is that accurate or WIFOM? Have Sulu or Uhura voted for each other? Weird that he would be that confident about how the Scum are playing this. *Wouldn't vote for each other unless utterly pushed." "Rather unlikely they'd bus each other..." We voted right on top of eachother. Looks like I haven't necessarily led poor easily-led Uhura here. Looks like she voted right before me...after I announced I would vote in an hour. I think it was getting pretty obvious that I found Chekov the Scummiest. Was this Uhura's long play. Make Scotty look like he's leading the lynches, latch onto his massive ego and then once three Townies are dead, try to serve him up as the cause of all the dead Townies? Weird move considering he voted for people I was making cases against with his own reason: that Chekov quoted me out of order. He thinks that was Scummy. I immediately questioned it. Sounds like I'm really leading people. It should be pointed out again that after I voted, there was definitely enough time and enough people around for the lynch to go to McCoy. Why didn't it? Because I voted for Chekov? Sulu voted after me again. Granted that it wasn't the same vote this time. Interesting he seemed to have a more Scummy read on Chekov, based solely on the fact that he listed him first among his strongest reads. Was this a hammer vote? Or did Mallory hammer Chekov? Did Sulu want to further split the vote so they could achieve a night kill? Just circling back, what the fuck, man? Seriously? Let me also say that Mallory did an amazing job at demonstrating what was illogical about the interaction between Chekov and Sulu. Suggesting that I led that is an insult to Mallory's leadership. It was concise and hilarious. I do have more on Uhura. I admit I didn't feel as strongly about his Scumminess as I do Sulu's, maybe a tossup between him and McCoy for different reasons, but he's ticked up since his "Scott led all the Townie lynches." Maybe it's just my ego and my public enemy number one communication style and summaries.

There it is. I delivered three lynches. Yes, the Scum genius mastermind Hinckley is 100% responsible for all three lynches. For the last two days, I placed a vote, went to bed and woke up to see the person I had voted for lynched. At both points, the lynch could've gone either way but it went the way I had voted. Which is exactly as I've already addressed. Have I been manipulating you, Uhura? Did you only vote the way you did because of my "leadership?" I don't need much time, but I need some time which I won't have for a while. After I was done "summarizing" what I didn't like about Sulu's behavior I had to sleep because it was 2:00 am on my side of the ship. But I do like that you're suddenly putting in a lot of work yourself. Interesting that you're painting me as the leader of three lynches. I wonder how everyone else who voted feels about that.

Here's Sulu's response to being questioned about Chekov's vote. Here is what he says less than 40 minutes later: We either discussed this ad nauseum yesterday or got too hung up with the Scummiest player to ever play, Chekov, to notice. I can't remember which. My brain exploded at some point and I'll never be the same again. Anyway, in approximately 40 minutes, Sulu goes from "He hasn't said anything scummy or at least anything of interest that I consider scummy" to "As for my suspicions. My top suspicions are Chekov..." How does this character growth occur? There's no motivation, you should wait in your trailer until the script writer either explains or re-writes this section. Let's address for a minute the sentence "hasn't said anything scummy or at least anything of interest that I consider scummy." What's the fucking difference here? Was there anything of disinterest that you considered Scummy?? And did you ignore it? My brain probably ignored this sentence yesterday because it had already experienced too much cell death. Either way, this revelation in 40 minutes that Chekov had said nothing Scummy to being his top suspicion is sandwiched between accusations of being attacked in order to be stitched up by Chekov. I can't speak for his analysis of Chekov's self-vote because I will never understand it myself, so I can't figure out if his perspective is Scum, Town or exploding tree stump, but here he is piling on Chekov with the rest of us. Kind of re-hashing what others have said without adding much. He's been accused of this before. I've read the threads enough that I think I can remember who without checking. Was it McCoy? We're all voting for Chekov but he votes McCoy as Nurse Chapel pointed out. But the other thing he says here is interesting as Chekov pointed out. Chekov didn't only spout bonkers, that's a positive thing I said about Chekov! I honestly don't notice sometimes that I hammered. So I didn't think much of this. However, since it is Sulu and Uhura who both mixed up their vote position (partially thanks to William Shatner) it makes me think perhaps they mixed it up also because they're a team. That's a stretch for sure, but it is odd to claim a place on a lynch wagon and get it wrong. And for both of them to do it. Did they both think "Was I the hammer? I'll check Bob's tally."? I don't think there's anything solid to this but I'm mentioning it in case I'm missing something and maybe one of you will see it. Now I'm actually going to bed. I'll do Uhura tomorrow. Not do her. I mean go over her Scummy quotes...

I was saying four of us need to vote together to get a lynch and only four of us are Starfleet. I know we mentioned this yesterday. McCoy said our heads needed to be on straight. But damn. We need to get one of the next two lynches right in order to have a chance at winning this. My best Scum reads have all been Town so I don't even want to think about what I consider my best Scum read right now. Maybe we should lynch our best Town read.

I find myself trusting you and Chapel. That's three of us. If we are all Town, we can win this by voting the other three out. If one of us is Scum, though... and we vote out the other three, then...we'd still be OK. For that to fail for the Town, two of us would have to be Scum. I'm Town and I would feel absolutely terrible if my two strongest Town reads are the Scum team. For two days, Mallory has hovered on the the thread and then posted later. That's not much to go on. I feel he is my strongest Town read just because I'm reading everyone else the same way he is. That doesn't mean he's not Scum but when someone is analyzing the game the same way you are and there are no other tools at your disposal, that is almost a verification. Nurse Chapel, I'm not as convinced on but her reactions seem genuine and her analysis also seems close with mine and with Mallory. I don't know why I don't trust her as much as Mallory. Maybe it's because I've played many games with Mallory before and Nurse Chapel is sleeping with Gene Roddenberry. McCoy is McCoy, the big question mark. He hasn't really posted much, people have pointed out he's been in a somewhat Scummy vote position. Three confirmed townies genuinely suspected him and voted for him every day they were alive. I mean not in the brig. He read about LEGO Movie sets until we started accusing Scummy Scummy Scummy exploding tree stump Chekov. That irked me. I feel that is my strongest Scum read on him was when he piled onto Chekov. Seemed audacious to say the least after avoiding the lynch for two days. Sulu's Day Three was also an exploding tree stump. The Scummiest thing he did was, sorry I'll write a play to demonstrate: Mallory: Chekov's response to you makes zero sense. What do you think of it? Sulu: Nothing. Mallory: Who do you think is Scummy? Sulu: Chekov. His response made zero sense. But illogical drivel is the new Town tell so tree dog fetch houndstooth jacket syzygy charges energy existentialism purple monkey rattlesnake butt. I'll find the actual quotes. I just want to get all of my initial thoughts out. Uhura. I freaking can't stand Uhura. Diametrically opposed to McCoy but has a lax attitude towards changing votes from him and kind of asks questions without making accusations of others. Mostly jokes and Star Trek episode titles. Uhura and Sulu are the ultimate coast-down-the-center-fly-under-the-radar. But McCoy is McCoy. Who do we send to the brig? OK, so I need to shove my brain back in my head for some thinking. Obviously, Chapel, Mallory and I can't vote out the other three as one of them would have to be along with the plan from the start. Also obviously, the plan would kill us all if there is one Scum among the three of us and the first two we vote out are Town. Also, I shouldn't propose something that would split a group of six in to two camps of three if we expect to be able to work together since four of us have to vote toge hen Satan possesed my keboard and self posted while I was in the middle of rambling. Fuck it. I'm going to bed. Stupid Satan.

I meant McCoy here, by the way...not Sulu.

What the actual fuck? You know what? Next time I host a game that jimmynick signs up for, I'm going to make him an exploding tree stump. He can't post, he can't vote, no PMs, he can only explode, randomly. You know what the explosion does? Nothing. Just goes boom. Affects nothing. Sign up for my next game, jimmy. Watch me. OK, sorry, really, I have more. Hopefully, just one more. Sorry, jimmynick, I mean no insult by this. I've always thought you were a good player, or I have a vague recollection that I enjoyed playing with you, so I'm just going on about your particular performance in this game. I hope you don't mind me saying this, but I just need to vent: Think about this, everyone. He actually thought what he was saying was logical. This is burning my brain up. What the actual fuck? I don't even know. Him flipping Town means that he was telling the truth. I can't fathom that at the moment. I read yesterday's thread several times and I just can't look at it again. I feel like hundreds of my brain cells die every time I look at the events of yesterday. OK, I think that's all out of my system.

Good memory. Thank you! I have to leave in 1 hour and 10 minutes, so...

@Bob welcome to everyone's shit-list. Where's Day Four? Also, thanks for hosting. It's a great game so far.

Yes, as I've said repeatedly, there are reasons to lynch McCoy. I do feel, though, like his Scumminess was being overstated by some. I've gone over everyone's posts repeatedly. If you're Town and he's Scum, way to swoop in today and act 10 times Scummier than him. Good job yourself.

McCoy would've been lynched if you wouldn't have had a tantrum with Mallory and/or been able to explain the reasoning behind your unvote. If you wanted McCoy to be lynched, you still could've achieved that since he seems to be the crux of all of your theories. How would Scum be swinging the lynch away from McCoy for three days? There are only two Romulans. What was there to respond to? You half admitted you were wrong. Congratulations, I guess?

Based on these two posts, Sulu and Chekov should be voting for McCoy, but they aren't. If you want McCoy to be lynched, here are two people who think McCoy is Scum, turn to them. For me, I'll vote: Chekov/jimmynick for all of the reasons I've stated all day from his weird reaction to a legitimate question about his nonsense response to Sulu all the way up to softly accusing me but not following through with a vote on me, Mallory or McCoy. Eeeew, gross. Uhura voted for him too. Now, I'm having doubts again. I don't like that Uhura contradicted herself again with this vote. Yes, I agree that the order of things is important and suggesting otherwise is Scummy. But look at yourself. You can't even get the order you actually voted in correct. And is this really the Scummiest thing Chekov has done to warrant a vote? And what about your hard titties for McCoy's lynch? What happened to those?

Day One: Ambivalent on McCoy, agree with lynching Spock. Day Two: Preferred McCoy, didn't have a good read on Spock. Why is everyone acting so Scummy??? I'm trying to go through and get a read on McCoy. I can't and I'm surprised so many have so many questions from what is actually not a lot of posts. He does vote for Spock for voting in the same position he ends up voting for Spock, which tied up the votes between the two of them, yes. And he swooped in today with the most he's had to say yet, piling on our suspicions of Chekov and voting for him, again the only other viable candidate on a day he's once again being voted for. But he's been voted for every day. How are you supposed to behave when a little wagon forms on you every day? How amazing is that sentence, out of context? McCoy's behavior is close to what I was actually looking for yesterday and found mostly in Sulu, flying under the radar. But Chekov has been outwardly Scummy all day and my brain is about to break. I don't like Uhura either, really. Jesus, I'm going to go through everyone again. I'm going to take the next hour to think about the best place to put my vote...

When I say spouting nonsense, I'm quoting you. You referred to your accusation against Sulu as "spouting nonsense." Yet, you've reiterated your concern about his vote as real, yet again. So were you spouting nonsense or did your vote come from a place of real concern? Because so far, you've said both. And that doesn't scan for me.

Here's what bugs me. As much activity has been around McCoy, he hasn't done too much to defend himself. But neither did Kyle and neither did Spock. I defend myself from my own accusations but that doesn't mean that's how everyone approaches this. First chance he had, McCoy jumped on the opportunity to point fingers at Chekov and Sulu. What would anyone have done on either side, though? And of course I understand finding their actions Scummy, I've been going on about it all day. But to have a player who everyone has articulated (some less successfully than others) suspicion against for three days jump right on the wagon here with Chekov and Sulu, gives me pause. Again, as I just discussed with Chekov, perhaps the Scum are taking advantage of a player who had votes on the first two game days. Not sure which way to go at this point. Order does matter because you're saying that my quote is a reason I voted for McCoy when I said it 17 hours after I had un-voted him. And it's not a reason! It's a fact. "I want to lynch Chekov or McCoy." There's no reasoning in that statement. And it is 17 hours after I unvoted him. Have I mentioned that? You're saying it was my reason for voting for him but I said it way after I voted for him, let alone reversed course and un-voted him. The aura?? Let's look at this, yet again. Sane and measured aura. How is that a measurement of Scum or Town? If I am every Scum in a game where you're Town, I know how to trick you; I should project a sane and measured aura. How are you measuring Sulu's aura? I'm serious there. What the hell are you talking about? Your original concern isn't even acknowledged by Sulu. He says nothing about his vote for Kyle. He doesn't say anything except "Lynch me if you think I'm Scum." It's not even a good reason not to respond to you. What is this? If it's a bumble of a Scum act, what the hell kind of Town act is it?? I think it's a Scum fumble based on your schedule. And your magic town reads that come out of virtually nowhere. Were you spouting nonsense or did his vote concern you? I don't have an answer, mostly because I can see for myself that Sulu never answered it! This is bonkers-land. Population: you. No offense.

I'll be around, obsessively refreshing the page. I would like to see a vote count, Commander @Bob. I'm very curious to see if Chekov's vote for himself counts. I don't see a rule against it.

Everyone look at the time stamps of my posts that Chekov quoted. He is (deliberately?) posting them out of order and trying to make me sound like I was inconsistent when you can follow yourself my progression of thought through the day. I said that four hours ago, which is 17 hours after I voted. Your conclusion doesn't even make sense. You say I unvoted McCoy because I misunderstood the context of what Day he was referring to with his vote on Uhura, or whoever the fuck, some Star Trek character who isn't me, but all you've quoted is me stating that I want to lynch him or you. Was that a misquote? How can me stating the fact that I want to lynch him or you a reason to vote for him. I can't even follow what I'm asking. Your post is so bonkers to me at the moment. Sorry. I can't figure out what angle you're coming from. I went back and found some reasonable thinking in what we were questioning you about earlier, but this is pushing me back in the other direction. About that, I could see if you were trying to rouse Sulu out of his "flying under the radar" by making a nonsense accusation. But you never really explicitly said that. You said "explicitly" that you were voting for Sulu because you thought he and McCoy were Scum together. Almost as an afterthought for our sake. What was the nonsense part? And what was so convincing about his response and what satiated your suspicion about his vote...on whoever...that saved McCoy? I can see this all as a reasonable ploy to poke an inactive player but I can't see where you ever explain that this is what you were up to. You're focusing more on Sulu's context in answering my suspicion and not your vote I'm having so much trouble wrapping my mind around your behavior from today and trying to square it up with a Townie mindset. Is the dead board screaming for us to lynch you? To be a fly on the digital wall... Ego, ego, ego. I did a whole song and dance about it, roughly 20 hours ago. I'll place my vote when I'm damn good and ready to and I won't reveal my tactics behind it until I need to. If I need to. Yes, I'm fascinated to know McCoy's alignment. And you and Sulu have made arguments that lead right back to me wanting to know his alignment. But these tactics have been practically spelled out for you. If you were trying to vote for Sulu today to distance yourself from him, of course you would both turn course back to McCoy if that fell through. That describes very well what is happening, actually. If we lynch McCoy and you and Sulu are the real Romulans then, as McCoy pointed out, we have to have our heads on perfectly straight. Uhura, Mallory, Chapel and I would all have to vote together to vote one of you out. We have leeway today, but not so much right around the corner. That's a solid argument and the most coherent thing you've said all day. Why is that? It's a clear place to get the heat off of you after your fumbles, assuming you are Scum. But, seriously, coherent argument. Mallory and I have been very in line with each other. I said I suspected him because I trusted him the most. As I mentioned earlier, it might be a good Scum trick to just parrot me to try to get me to never focus on him since I "lead the discussion." I think this way, yes. I'm not crazy about it, but I've learned that looking at games this way is at least worth a look. It sounds like I have an enormous ego...and I do...but it helps to realize people might be taking advantage of that. Anyway, I'm Starfleet so I know what you're postulating isn't true, but I've been aware of what it looks like and if the Scum are going to try to take me out, that is definitely the path to take. It makes sense. You could pile evidence on that theory, I guarantee it. Again, I'll vote when I'm good and ready. But you just keep piling on the pressure, feel free. That's one of the many things that makes me uncomfortable just jumping on another McCoy wagon. It's expected. It's been lined up. It's the path of least resistance for both sides. No likey.