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Ah, yes. Thank you to all the people who patiently explained the game to me via PM. I really liked being Ethan. He baited me to write a play and I did. I said I didn't want to be like "Hinkley" because he's a spaz. I actually thought Elijah was you.
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I had no idea you were Ansel and I still wanted to lynch you. @KotZ
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Ken Doll! You know, I really missed my adverbs and my emoticons when I was Ethan. And proper use of the word "to." And correct spelling of "etiquette."
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I kind of thought you were Zachary because you thought we were all going to lynch you. But I wasn't sure. If we had a vigilante, I'd have been like "Can you just kill Liam? I have no idea what he does."
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Thank you for saving me, my favorite bus driver! What gave me away?
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You didn't know? I thought everyone had figured it out. Who were you?
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I was Ethan Dunn, the adorable noob town investigator. "What a shock!" Said nobody. The whole Town claimed to me halfway through day two. I'll get to making those new accounts for Pirate Mafia III. Should be done within the next two hours @Bob Great job hosting! I really loved the game. Too bad the scum all dropped out. I'm glad you're hopping right back in to do a new one. Hopefully you won't hit another replacement hell.
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Thank you, Bob! Excellent job so far.
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Did you do that on purpose or is the word soon still replace in the swear filter? Who would do such a thing?
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Years? According to your signature you're currently playing Rhubarb Uxley in Hogwarts Mafia. You were the sole survivor of Galactic Paranoia? Holy crap, that has been a while, huh?
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OMGUS!!!
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Vote: Kyle (KotZ)
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Just don't use any deliberately bad logic.
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Hell, yes! Dear Lord, I love you, woman!! @KotZ I do have a vendetta against you.
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Bob, I love when you do the simple setup. So. Much. Fun. And yes, my head literally exploded several times. I am now dead. Now let's do one with anonymous accounts and Night Actions, please. I got nervous a couple of times today when I saw you login, sit in the thread and just let the time expire. I was like "Is she actually reading any of this?" I think I made some really great points about how Scummy Pandora was. Sorry, Pandora! At least we lost hard together.
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Great movie, @Darkdragon That's exactly how it went.
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I remember it. Not sure how much credit I deserve for it since I was suspecting everyone. I believe it started with "Has anybody actually looked at Riker's posts???" Yes, I was distracted from the real Scum by the even realer Scum, Wesley! God damn, Wesley. I even called you out for ignoring my questions. A couple of things you said pinged me like "I'll be back to answer any questions." It is helpful that we've mis-communicated so many times in the past I was like, "I just mis-understand her sometimes." Nicely done and no need to apologize. I choose to spend this much time obsessing over it. When Bob didn't give you your extra Daylight Savings hour, I kind of knew... But was also kind of hoping the reason I saw you both in PM was because you were telling him you had a busy day and thought you'd have an extra hour and still wanted to change your vote! More like we over-assumed it away. I feel dumb, but it was still fun. where's the dead board? I want to see how many people thought I was Scum. Probably everybody?
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Awesome job, @Darkdragon ! That is a well-deserved win. And I still think @Pandora is Scum. Sorry, Town. My bad.
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There's about an hour left...or two if you want to take Daylight Savings into account and give Riker the full 72 actual hours so he has the time to read everything that was posted after his last visit...
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Congratulations on not appearing on Page 3 of Day 3 which consisted of about 20 minutes. Nothing I've said about that Day is false. And it's not far, at all, from what I attest. You ignored my question or consideration of allowing a night kill. There's no concern voiced, at all, that the Day is almost over and we haven't reached a lynch. Not that you would've voted for yourself to avoid the night kill. You had already voted for Data, which I've already discussed my suspicion about where you voted and the fact that I had three posts before that laying out my suspicions of Data. You say yourself I control the vote, so voting for a person that I found most suspicious, other than you and was vocally trying to decide which was best, can be seen as pretty manipulative. "If everybody follows Hinckley's vote and he's talking about how suspicious he is of Data, maybe if I vote for Data, so will he and everybody else will follow." Yes, you defend yourself to Forg, but again, that's like your only interest. You're not concerned about the lack of lynch, you don't comment on anything else. You don't only "question... (Forg's) towniness," you remind us that he is the "deviousest (sic) scummy scum" to have ever played the game. You claim his metagaming is Scummy, which you've certainly metagamed me, as I have you and everybody, not a sign of Scumminess, it's how we play. But, if we're Scummy for doing it, your metagaming makes you Townie, somehow? Then you vote Forg the next day and are suddenly sure that he is the last Scum. As much as you want to say that it's me who people follow when voting, you've been the first vote on every person lynched in this game, except for Beverly. And every one of those people has turned up Town. So, as much as everyone wants to say that I'm diabolical and silver-tongued and everybody follows my vote, I'd like Riker to see that it's you who has been the most diabolical, the most silver-tongued and that every Day since Day Two we've followed your votes and they've always given us a Townie. Every. Time. Riker voted first today, but he's still trying to figure us out. You're the one who is dead set against me and if I'm lynched, I will be the fifth player that you've said is the Scummiest that will flip Town in the morning. And the Scum will win.
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People who live in walls of text houses... I'm actually trying not to repeatedly go point after point with you because I'm starting to think you're doing it on purpose to just muddy the waters and make it more difficult for Riker to see the truth. But, as I've said repeatedly, if I were Scum I would've had a much easier time without you and voting for Picard with Riker, who had wanted to lynch Picard every day. The same thing you took advantage of yesterday so you could make it to today. I much rather would've been killed or lynched than be here right now. You flipped immediately to Picard because that was the only hope you had of getting one of us lynched. You couldn't turn on Riker because he was the least likely to be lynched and you knew Riker would happily vote along with you. And if I didn't switch over, you could've chosen which one of us to kill. I haven't lied about anything so let me go back and figure out where you're accusing me of this and I'll certainly respond.
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OK, I see that. I hadn't been reading it that way, but it at least makes more sense. When you said "That's one definite Town" the most recent subject who was still alive was Picard. So, I thought you were putting Picard in the definite Town column for his behavior at the end of Day Three. And the parenthetical (Data - we all wondered) again made me think he hadn't just been referred to. I can see how I read that wrong, it's not a great sentence, no offense. Regardless, it's still odd for you to put two people in a likely Town category. The rest of the day was Forg. Forg. Forg. Forg. Forg. And you didn't relent or reconsider even though your case was pretty weak. He voted first, that's diabolical. Then you picked apart his sentence structure the same way you're doing to me. By process of elimination, you said you came to Forg as your most likely suspect because you were checking off the rest of us into likely Town columns. That's a pretty weak suspicion for you to dig into for the rest of that Day. And you claim to have believed it so much that the new Day just floored you and you couldn't imagine that any of use were Scum and therefore maybe nobody was Scum. This is not like you, or to try and not metagame, not like any Town player to believe so strongly in a game with no info but the lynch result that anybody else is Town. I'm being metagamed to the gills here with my diabolical vote-leading and my ability to confuse people and act innocent. Metagaming may be warned against by hosts but it's done by everybody and it does inform a lot of decision making. It's not really a good idea to ignore it, especially when your behavior is so less careful than it normally is. You only voted for Picard yesterday after he voted for you. Because he voted for you, you couldn't keep going after me, so you went after Picard, knowing that Riker would fall right in line and I would likely lynch Picard to avoid a night kill, something you gave Picard Town credit for in this same quote we keep talking about where you decide we're all likely Town, so it must be Forg. In the span of 30 minutes, you unvote after Picard switches his vote and then just switch to Picard. "By process of elimination" yet again. In a game where we don't have Night Action results to counter what we're saying during the Day, you can't play by eliminating anybody from your suspicion list and dig into one. You can only do that if you already know who the Scum are. And that has been your behavior throughout the game. What you're calling, in my behavior, sowing confusion is actually the way to play as Town because you cannot trust anybody or have the luxury of believing somebody is likely Town and that's what really causes the agony in this setup. None of us have had the luxury of being so certain of our vote. You've said that Riker is likely Town because he looks at other cases-besides you-and considers all cases and that Picard was likely Town for working to avoid a night kill. These are two behaviors I've exhibited throughout the game. To be convincing Town you would have to scrutinize Riker at this point and he's highly capable of sitting in this position and pitting us against each other to cruise through the last Day and win, but you haven't. All you want to do now is keep Riker's vote on me. I would be less sure of you as the final Scum if you were actually considering Riker's ability to be Scum at this point. Actually, if you had voted for Riker my head would've exploded trying to decide between the two of you. But your behavior today, and now looking even more closely than I had been at your previous behavior, makes me believe that it must be you. Riker, if you're Town, I hope you can see that. If you're Town, then you and are the two Town that remain in the game and Wesley is the second Scum. Wesley keeps saying that my voting to extend the Day every Day is no big deal, but that wasn't my point. I voted first to extend most Days because we needed the time to get as much out of each other as possible. And as far as avoiding the night kill, I didn't want the Scum to have that ability. Not lynching someone and letting the Scum have a night kill guarantees another day and I've just wanted the game to end. As I've said, if I were Scum, I would've left my vote on Wesley yesterday and then killed him to vote Picard along with you today. But I couldn't do that because I don't have a night kill ability because I'm not Scum. I'm Town. If you are as well, I really hope you can see that it is Wesley and not me that is the final Scum.
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"Hedging my bets like you." pings me hardcore. I'm not sure why. I'm not ridiculing you. I'm pointing out that this isn't typical behavior for you to come up with crazy game mechanics theories. How many times in this game have you told me I'm either dumb, crazy or Scum. Well, I'm not Scum so you're calling me dumb or crazy. That's fine. I can accept I'm either dumb or crazy. What I'm pointing out is your behavior is inconsistent. Even stringing together the way you've approached this game is not consistent with the Town-Wesley I know. It hasn't flowed together like one person trying to figure the game out. It's been stilted and all of your suspicions isolated in one single suspicion of conviction with people in definite or likely Town columns. What you're calling my "hand-wringing" and waffling has been me trying to figure things out, not trying to confuse anyone. I've been searching for clarity while you appear to have had it this entire game. That's the reason I voted for Beverly and that's the way I did it and the order I read the thread. Her statement pinged me and I voted. Nobody else had such a strong ping. Forg voted why he voted, I voted why I voted. What were you up to during this time? You were defending Beverly. What's Scummier? Me, voting second while not knowing what vote position I was in? Or you trying to save her and then accusing Forg later of bussing Beverly, when he didn't just vote, he made a solid case against her? And now I was bussing her, you say. But you didn't say these things until you had to find someone suspicious. You were so sure it was Forg on Day Four and that his vote proved that he was trying to distance himself, but when Forg turned up Town you didn't think I was Scum for where I voted, you didn't think any of us were Scum (because none of us were, you are) but when did you first mention my voting position on Beverly? It's not like you to pick up on Day One pings four days after the fact. I am so freaking busy and I don't have the time to be doing this. Right now, I have to run and I'll do my best to respond later. Most of the rest of this post, you're repeating things you've already said and I've already answered to. Riker, I want you to see that Wesley has stated many mistruths about what I actually said and what he actually said. I can post the things he said on one day next to the things he's said today and you can see that he is not telling the truth. I've been questioned repeatedly here and can answer for everything with the truth. I haven't lied about anything. I'm Town. If you're Town and you leave your vote on me, we will lose. I was asked several times yesterday about perceived inconsistencies and I've demonstrated how my thoughts evolved throughout the game. Wesley's thoughts haven't evolved, they've popped up out of nowhere to stop herself from being lynched. I doubt even more that you're the last Scum because I don't think you would put Wesley and I through all of this posting and slog on our time to get through the last Day.