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Which? True. And I also said it in thread. I kept my vote on The Cultist because I was afraid that the lynches could get out of control if we weren't careful. I think I made a good case against The Male Lover but was nervous that we could be lynching a Townie based on my suspicions. I was afraid I had started a bandwagon and was worried that it seemed to be gaining momentum too fast. That is precisely what I said to a few people and I believe I even said it in thread.
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That's kind of not good. I actually edited out what I felt was snarky. I called someone Mr. Spazzy McBristly-Pants, but thought it might cause others to suspect that person unfairly as I was somewhat over-reacting and I don't want to discourage discussion about this plan. I still say the vig and JOAT could be revealed, but if we sort out this Inventor claim, what do we do with the real inventor. If The Cult Leader is an Inventor, shouldn't he be getting one of the unkillable pills? Hell, we don't even know which one of those to believe. Way to out yourself and throw a huge wrench in the plans. I'll say this about the Cult Leader: I don't know why he's being so sensitive about this plan or exploding in response to me. Maybe I'm really annoying him, but he keeps going back to thinking I'm Scum. It could've been a meatshield, but why would I start the case against Male Lover when the Scum is mowing down Townies? Me accusing and starting the case against The Male Lover would've had to have been a meatshield and why would Scum do that so early? The Cult Leader also did not vote yesterday, despite being around. He claims to have been posting when the thread was closed, which is possible. He did try to discourage me from revealing all of the pills, via Potato, because he wanted to see if any Scum would slip up and correct me that there was only one unkillable pill out there. I'm curious to hear from this other Inventor. The Cult Leader may be Town, but he's being awful reactionary and that's out of character for him. The whole "I'm left no choice" was something we discussed another player doing in another game and condemning the practice. I'm left confused, but think we should wait for The Cult Leader's nap to take effect to really make any judgements. He could be a Town PR after all. Any luck on this pistol recipient, Serious Roleplayer? If that were what that counterclaim PR was thinking, then by now they should've found someone to claim to that can reveal the info for them. I caught The Male Lover and started the case against him, that's why you should trust me. Plain and simple. I could say it fifteen times, but let's go for three: if there are counterclaims, public claims that are supposedly false should give them the confidence to come right out and counter them. With all revealed, how can the liars be safe? Why do you suggest the vig and JOAT are so confident in being revealed? If the Scum takes the pill, they reveal themselves. The Town blocker now knows of a Scum to block. We know who we can lynch tomorrow. We have lots to look at with the pills. Speaking of which, I've been swamped. Has anybody had a chance to look for other patterns? Right now I was just suggesting revealing two since that's all we can guarantee protection with the pills. But the PRs can then claim to those PRs and they can keep track of who is claiming what. Once they reveal themselves, if that's what we decide to do, I can tell you the whole story of why I trust them, what has happened and you guys can poke it for holes all you want. Wheee! It is actually the vote that is a Townie's most powerful weapon, to be specific. And forcing two lynches on Day Two is really questionable. Since all four have to be used, why not use the ones with the five random no-votes, early when it will have the least effect? Were you afraid Townies would be getting double votes with the other one? If you get lynched and you're Town, I would say this is your biggest mistake: Having all four rules to choose from and taking the Scummiest. Who did you discuss your decision with?
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Then start paying attention. Lazy Town kills Town. Unless you're Scum, then go do whatever you want. Do you not see how multiple roleclaims lead us to lynching Scum? I know what roles are dead, if any. Then read other days and try to pay attention. If we're going to decide beforehand who gets what I would say we ask both claimed Inventors to take a placebo. Exposing lies is bad? What's the alternative? Scum are the only ones who know that they're lying? Scum would need to expose themselves to get those pills. Town and Serial Killer want them dead. Can the pistol be used during the day? If the other Inventor is the Scum one, the one that gave the pistol, then they were very clever indeed in who they gave it to. Let me think who might do that... Time to put my metagame cap on. If we vote to reveal all, then I will reveal all. Wrong. The pills may be being revealed but we haven't revealed the PRs yet. We can still discuss who we think should take what pill. As far as I know, the vig and JOAT are OK with being revealed. I want to see what the whole Town thinks. We do need to really think out and discuss all possibilities.
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Serial Killer, you can't win if you keep killing Townies. Work with us. Watch who we're suspecting and try to get some Scum out of here too. They win with you alive or not and you would lose, so stop helping them. The Jester seemed like a good vig choice, maybe, but go for the ones who seem Scummy please. It's the only way you'll win. Maybe we can convince you to target the same person the vig is so we reduce our losses every night. You want to out yourself and work with us, right? Pwease!...
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I know the Universal Backup as well who is offered each role that has left the Town. I know what PRs should still be around for the Town. Everyone vote on if you like the plan or not. If you don't vote, you're Scum. Vote: Yes for Reveal All Plan Vote: No for Reveal All Plan I want to know what everyone thinks. For me, since I came up with the plan, Vote: Yes for Reveal All Plan
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Do I have control over what they're inventing? Well, we would have a vig counterclaim by now and I'm pretty damn sure we have the Town JOAT although I won't say why. Yes, you had a choice. Why are you spazzing? That was childish and unnecessary. Why would you not say this in private? And it is weird that you had the unkillable pill and The Male Lover jumped on it immediately on Day Two and you told nobody. Did you even talk to him about it? Someone told me at the beginning of the Day that they knew someone who had been given a pistol. Did I say I knew of a Town Inventor? Absolutely not. But somebody does. I will know go to the person who told me they knew the person who received a pistol and we'll pull that person out. Thank you. Cult Leader, go take a nap.
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Is that helpful, though? If you knew there would be two lynches and chose it so we'd work so hard, why didn't you lead us towards a second candidate? Why go for the one that had quit and was going to be killed anyway. And is your defense really "But I helped you lynch a Townie!" Scum. Scum bucket. Scum. You. Scum. Period. Squirming Scummies.
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This. Yes. Very much. Cult Leader, did you have any contact with The Male Lover about the nature of the pill the two of you took? It is very interesting that he picked it when he pretty much had his fair share of choices and was likely to know what six of the pills did. Maybe it was a pill The Scum wanted to keep out of the Town's hands?
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Stump, why did you choose the two lynch rule? Snake Charmer, why did you choose the 75% conviction rule? When you both could have chosen: 5 random players getting votes with double the weight. (gone when there are only 10 players left) 5 random players getting no vote. (gone when there are only 10 players left) Why the difficult lynches instead of the double or no-votes. God pill also makes the person bulletproof and unlynchable the next day. We can't lynch Snake Charmer today and The Stump was unlynchable yesterday. Who was voting for The Stump? Wasn't the Godfather trying to make a case against him all day? Judging by what The Snake Charmer and The Stump decided to do with The God Pill, I would assume they're both Scum. Now, who has that pistol again...
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This, yes. We can confirm all of them and not worry with about conversions since there are none. Since each side has the same roles, we can easily sort out conflicting claims. If we all reveal what we are and what our pills are, then the Scum can't possibly hide. We'll know when a Scum takes the Uppers, for instance. I know of one of them. Hopefully, a Townie has had another. I'm going to move forward with my plan on the pills. Alto Pill - Downer Pill of Valhalla - Placebo Fairy Tale Pill - Lifesaver
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I know! And no watchers. I responded to this already. What does anyone think. Worth the risk? Our inventor isn't killable either. It's better to have two confirmed Townies unkillable throughout the rest of the game, even if they get blocked every night. We still have other ways to kill, investigate and protect. The inventor should just come out as well then, huh? Maybe not... Open game! Open game! I say we just do it. Once we start talking more about who can do what and what happens with each pill, we'll uncover the Scum in no time. I need to go look over Male Lover's posts, but I'm swamped with something called Brickworld.
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Oh, the block. The megablocking block! Mother megablocker. Well, we have an inventor handing out guns. They can't block the killer and the JOAT, so we know one will work and we already know someone with a pistol...well, I do anyway. Let's risk it. I care megabluck all about their wimpy little block. I hate the Scum. How dare them get randomly selected to be liars? What rotten people.
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We can keep the JOAT and vig alive because they can alternate between the two unkillable pills! Anyone else who takes those pills would be automatically lynched. Let's do this! That would only mean one Townie would be doomed to a lynch and that would be a Pyrrhic victory unless the Scum only need one more Townie dead. Which is why we should: 1. Reveal all pills 2. Reveal the identity of the vig and JOAT 3. Allow only the vig and JOAT to select the unkillable pills 4. Lynch anyone who takes an unkillable instead. We need this guarantee that our power roles will survive and that the Scum have nowhere to hide. It will also show who was sharing good pills amongst themselves. Let's do it! Yes? Who agrees? Who disagrees?
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If we reveal all the pills, we could possibly reveal one of the Power Roles, say the vig or JOAT. With no conversions possible, we can make sure that person has an unkillable pill every day and have someone we can all trust to gather info. Anyone who tries to take the unkillable pills otherwise would be lynched. I love it. Feckuck you, Scum. What do you guys think? I really think it will work.