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Anwyl stops the assassin on his tracks. "Not so fast! Do you really think your easily-flammable hat will endure the flames of my forge? Hahaha! Think again!" OoC: Artefacts cannot be upgraded. Fabian raises his eyebrow. "I don't see it being worth more than 40 gold on resale, so I can give you 20 gold for it."

"Oh really? You're part of the Puppygang, are you? Why do I find it so hard to believe?" Sylph's lack of diplomacy or intimidation makes Robina dubious. A third woman steps into the clearing. She's holding a half-empty bottle, and there's a slight slur in her voice. "They're lying to their teeth, I tell you. I would know my ex-gangbrothers - you can't get scars like this and forget. On the other hand, it's been years since I left the gang, and I've done a lot of drinking after that... A lot! *hiccup*" "Thank you, Wilma, just as I suspected. Or are you going to tell me you're new recruits?" The bandit's suspicion towards the party has risen. Does the party want to fight the women straight ahead, or will they try to find a peaceful way out?

"Sylvania damn it!" Ellaria curses her weak strike. "I was hoping we could've taken out a few of these guys before I needed to heal, but the situation looks bad enough. Remember that my enchanted roots can revive you in case you fall, if Sylvania so bids." Ellaria attempts to nurture Nyx from the back row.

That's insane! I've got to nerf Raider asap.

Alright now, calm down everyone! As the first lady of this village, I will make sure everything is alright during my husbands absence... Wait! Did I leave the coffeemaker on? *runs inside the Mayor' house, then quickly comes back* Nevermind, we don't even have a coffeemaker since no such mold has been produced yet. And I certainly won't lower myself to buy one of those brick-built ones! What are your thought about Virus Fox? I can't quite put my finger on it, but something in him reminds me greatly of the dastardly Felix... *squints her eyes in suspicion*

Nur attempts to give some magic-induced luck to Johon, but fails. He then consumes a Grand Tonic to replenish his ether, and a Mead to go along with it. Party: Sylph Solanum (Dannylonglegs) unknown age, unknown race Druid ***Party Leader*** Level 15½ Power: 22 (15+7) Defense: 0 Health: 30/30 (9+14+7) Ether: 17/20 (5+14+1) Gold: 50 Equipment: Mockthril Rod (WP:7) Inventory: Scroll of Frailty, Scroll of Sleep, Scroll of Blindness, Scroll of Sealing, Scroll of Confusion, 2 Potions, 1 Grand Potion, 2 Tonics, Grand Tonic, Remedy, 2 Smelling Salts, 2 Venoms, Smoke Bomb, 2 Fire Bombs, 2 Ice Bombs, 3 Water Bombs, 2 Lightning Bombs, Floral Bomb, Bedroll, Shovel, Pickaxe, Magnifying Glass, 8 Bones, Signet Ring, Saber Teeth Dak Shadeaux (Darth Nihilus) 35 years old half-elven, half-Mopag Black Knight Level 15½ *Immune to Blinded and Fragile* Power: 25 (15+10) (20 for ranged attacks (15+5)) Defense: 12 (7+5) Health: 16/30 (7+14+9) Ether: 0/0 Gold: 3 Equipment: Black Sword (WP:10, lightning-elemental), Fauxthril Shield (SP:7), Trendy Handbag (protects wearer from whatever bad effect was last inflicted to someone else in a battle), Heavy Armor (SP:5, protects from fragile-effect) Inventory: Throwing Knife (WP:5), Twin Longswords (WP:3), 5 Potions, 2 Grand Potions, Grand Tonic, Elixir, Remedy, Phoenix Essence, 3 Meads, 2 Venoms, Nostrum, Mythril Shard, Bedroll, Shovel, Aquamarine Johon (Bricksandparts) 25 years old male human Raider Level 17½ *Natural Respite* Power: 25 (17+8) Defense: 0 Health: 32/32 (8+16+1+7) Ether: 0/0 Gold: 228 Equipment: Sword of Decay (WP:8; once the target is inflicted with damage they lose a quarter of the power of the strike each following turn for three turns; the effect cannot be compounded with more strikes; suitable to Mages, Knights and Barbarians), Helmet (+1 max health), Dog Statuette (SP: 1, once named (Rover), speaking the name summons a dog almost certainly to tag along on madcap adventures and make snippy comments.) Inventory: Greatsword (WP:3), Meteor Blade (WP:8, Light elemental), Healing Staff (WP:5, Healing effect; lent to Arthur G Regulus- usable by mages and clerics), Focal Staff (WP:5; focus fire: roll a 3 for 5 ether; suitable for clerics and mages), Aquamarine, 3 Potions, 2 Venoms, Ice Bomb, Phoenix Essence, Mead, Shovel, 2 Pick-axes, Magnifying Glass, Magic Compass En Sabah Nur (Jebediahs) 30 year old male human Battle Mage Level 18½ *Lucky* *Natural Respite* *Immune to Fragile, Sealed and Blinded* *Encouraged* Power: 30 60 (18+12) Defense: 5 Health: 27/27 (5+17+5) Ether: 17/23 (5+17+1) Gold: 288 Equipment: Stealth Dagger (WP: 12), Sealed Heavy Armour of Brilliance (SP:5,Immune: fragile, blinded, sealed effects), Loaded Die (Lucky effect), Inventory: En & Sabah & Nur (Shurikens 3/3, WP: 5), Sangriste Dagger (WP: 5), Helmet (+1 HP), Traveler's Cloak (SP: 1), Garnet (Earth), Aquamarine (Water), Scroll of Confusion, Scroll of Sealing, Scroll of Luck, 3 Potions, Grand Tonic, 3 Phoenix Essences, Remedy, 3 Meads, 2 Smelling Salts, Venom, 2 Deadly Venom, Smoke Bomb, 2 Fire Bombs, 2 Ice Bombs, 2 Lightning Bombs, 2 Water Bombs, 2 Floral Bombs, 2 Holy Bombs, Bedroll, Magnifying Glass, Garnet Lamp of Summoning, Raw Meat Sylph raises his scroll of sleep to utter a spell at the archer up in the tree, but a huge fist wraps around his wrist, stopping him. He turns around to see the largest woman he has ever laid his eyes on. She's not really fat, but tall and bulky as a mountain. "Trying to interfere with our gig, are you?" the woman booms. She then hollers at the person on the tree. "Hoy, Robina! Leave the kids, we have caught ourselves a bigger fry." The archer jumps down, and the party sees that he's in fact a she as well. And a very buxom one, at that. "Good job, Little Jane", the woman called Robina smirks. "I can't believe I did not notice them myself. I was too concentrated on the rich brats. You four better be richer, or I'll make you regret that you made me let the boys slip." Robina aims her arrow at Sylph's throat, giving him a good look down her ample cleavage. Meanwhile Little Jane keeps the others at bay with her arm-thick quarterstaff. "The name's Robina Hooter, a benefactor to the poor and a bane to the wealthy. And you are?" The roguish woman waits for the party's answer.

Ellaria is shocked to see the others fighting a group of similar creatures as the librarian of Heroica. Who knew they were so plentiful in Eubric? "Sounds like a plan, Atramor!" Ellaria says as she hears the witch's suggestion. She then aims her staff at the Metasimian with scimitar and shield, attacking from the front row.

You really are aiming for an invincible character, are you? But the answer is no, shields cannot be merged with anything, at least for now.

The font is called Castellar. I just put a gradient layer over it. Me neither. I originally ripped the logo off a screencap of the official website.

The sign-up time for the Unlimited Quest has been pulled forward to the day after tomorrow. I'll one-up you and post the logo I use myself. It's only slightly better than yours, though. I should probably redo it one day... Elemental gems don't stack anymore than effects do. Stop trying to find loopholes from the system!

~A new quest has been posted on the Quest Board (#47 by Capt.JohnPaul)!~

Ellaria felt her heart start to race as she and the two others dashed back around the building. "I'm so sorry..." she huffed to the others. "I should've listened to the watchman. Let's hope the rest are alright. Wait, is that a battle I hear?" The feeling of tension was gut-wrenching but also invigorating. Ellaria knew that failing was not an option for her, so there was nothing that could stand in her way.

QM Note: I will autoplay this battle to the end so we can move on. Results of Round Four of the Hungry Bear Battle: Sylph Solanum uses Scroll of Blindness on Hungry Bear - Fail (Sylph: -1 ether) Dak Shadeaux vs. Hungry Bear - Defended Damage (Dak: 25 health+12 SP-21 dmg=16 health) Johon vs. Hungry Bear - Hit/Special Damage (Hungry Bear: 227 health-25 dmg=202 health, decay) En Sabah Nur vs. Hungry Bear - Hit/Extra Critical Hit (Hungry Bear: 202 health-(54x2=108 dmg)=94 health) Hungry Bear - Decay (Hungry Bear: 94 health-7 dmg=87 health) Sylph attempts to blind the bear again, but fails miserably. The enraged bear attacks Dak, causing 9 damage through his shield. Johon gets a hit on the bear, dealing 25 damage and leaving the beast in a state of decay. Nur's extra critical hit deals 108 more damage. The decay on the bear takes 7 more health from it, and will last for two more rounds. The battle continues. Enemy: Hungry Bear *Decay (2/3 turns)* Type: Beast Level: 21 Health: 87/386 Special: Berserk – The bear goes mad and focuses its sight on the attacker, causing 21 damage to the target as well as dealing extra 21 damage each upcoming round to that target until it is defeated. Drops: Raw Meat (max. health +5 upon consumption) Party: Sylph Solanum (Dannylonglegs) unknown age, unknown race Druid ***Party Leader*** Level 15 Power: 22 (15+7) Defense: 0 Health: 30/30 (9+14+7) Ether: 18/20 (5+14+1) Gold: 50 Equipment: Mockthril Rod (WP:7) Inventory: Scroll of Frailty, Scroll of Sleep, Scroll of Blindness, Scroll of Sealing, Scroll of Confusion, 2 Potions, 1 Grand Potion, 2 Tonics, Grand Tonic, Remedy, 2 Smelling Salts, 2 Venoms, Smoke Bomb, 2 Fire Bombs, 2 Ice Bombs, 3 Water Bombs, 2 Lightning Bombs, Floral Bomb, Bedroll, Shovel, Pickaxe, Magnifying Glass, 8 Bones, Signet Ring, Saber Teeth Dak Shadeaux (Darth Nihilus) 35 years old half-elven, half-Mopag Black Knight Level 15 *Immune to Blinded and Fragile* Power: 25 (15+10) (20 for ranged attacks (15+5)) Defense: 12 (7+5) Health: 16/30 (7+14+9) Ether: 0/0 Gold: 3 Equipment: Black Sword (WP:10, lightning-elemental), Fauxthril Shield (SP:7), Trendy Handbag (protects wearer from whatever bad effect was last inflicted to someone else in a battle), Heavy Armor (SP:5, protects from fragile-effect) Inventory: Throwing Knife (WP:5), Twin Longswords (WP:3), 5 Potions, 2 Grand Potions, Grand Tonic, Elixir, Remedy, Phoenix Essence, 3 Meads, 2 Venoms, Nostrum, Mythril Shard, Bedroll, Shovel, Aquamarine Johon (Bricksandparts) 25 years old male human Raider Level 17 *Natural Respite* *Lucky* Power: 25 (17+8) Defense: 0 Health: 32/32 (8+16+1+7) Ether: 0/0 Gold: 207 Equipment: Sword of Decay (WP:8; once the target is inflicted with damage they lose a quarter of the power of the strike each following turn for three turns; the effect cannot be compounded with more strikes; suitable to Mages, Knights and Barbarians), Helmet (+1 max health), Dog Statuette (SP: 1, once named (Rover), speaking the name summons a dog almost certainly to tag along on madcap adventures and make snippy comments.) Inventory: Greatsword (WP:3), Meteor Blade (WP:8, Light elemental), Healing Staff (WP:5, Healing effect; lent to Arthur G Regulus- usable by mages and clerics), Focal Staff (WP:5; focus fire: roll a 3 for 5 ether; suitable for clerics and mages), Aquamarine, 3 Potions, 2 Venoms, Ice Bomb, Phoenix Essence, Mead, Shovel, 2 Pick-axes, Magnifying Glass, Magic Compass En Sabah Nur (Jebediahs) 30 year old male human Battle Mage Level 18 *Lucky* *Natural Respite* *Immune to Fragile, Sealed and Blinded* *Encouraged* Power: 30 60 (18+12) Defense: 5 Health: 27/27 (5+17+5) Ether: 12/23 (5+17+1) Gold: 288 Equipment: Stealth Dagger (WP: 12), Sealed Heavy Armour of Brilliance (SP:5,Immune: fragile, blinded, sealed effects), Loaded Die (Lucky effect), Inventory: En & Sabah & Nur (Shurikens 3/3, WP: 5), Sangriste Dagger (WP: 5), Helmet (+1 HP), Traveler's Cloak (SP: 1), Garnet (Earth), Aquamarine (Water), Scroll of Confusion, Scroll of Sealing, Scroll of Luck, 3 Potions, 2 Grand Tonics, 3 Phoenix Essences, Remedy, 4 Meads, 2 Smelling Salts, Venom, 2 Deadly Venom, Smoke Bomb, 2 Fire Bombs, 2 Ice Bombs, 2 Lightning Bombs, 2 Water Bombs, 2 Floral Bombs, 2 Holy Bombs, Bedroll, Magnifying Glass, Garnet Lamp of Summoning Results of Round Five of the Hungry Bear Battle: Sylph Solanum uses Scroll of Blindness on Hungry Bear - Fail (Sylph: -1 ether) Dak Shadeaux vs. Hungry Bear - Hide Johon vs. Hungry Bear - Steal/Damage (Johon: 21 gold) En Sabah Nur vs. Hungry Bear - Extra Critical Hit/Damage (Hungry Bear: 87 health-(54x2=108 dmg)=0 health) Sylph fails to cast blindness again. Dak sees it best to hide for the rest of the round. Johon steals 21 gold from the bear. Nur finishes the battle by stabbing his dagger straight through the bear's heart. THE BATTLE IS VICTORIOUS! All party members gain half of a level. The enemy drops Raw Meat. Party: Sylph Solanum (Dannylonglegs) unknown age, unknown race Druid ***Party Leader*** Level 15½ Power: 22 (15+7) Defense: 0 Health: 30/30 (9+14+7) Ether: 17/20 (5+14+1) Gold: 50 Equipment: Mockthril Rod (WP:7) Inventory: Scroll of Frailty, Scroll of Sleep, Scroll of Blindness, Scroll of Sealing, Scroll of Confusion, 2 Potions, 1 Grand Potion, 2 Tonics, Grand Tonic, Remedy, 2 Smelling Salts, 2 Venoms, Smoke Bomb, 2 Fire Bombs, 2 Ice Bombs, 3 Water Bombs, 2 Lightning Bombs, Floral Bomb, Bedroll, Shovel, Pickaxe, Magnifying Glass, 8 Bones, Signet Ring, Saber Teeth Dak Shadeaux (Darth Nihilus) 35 years old half-elven, half-Mopag Black Knight Level 15½ *Immune to Blinded and Fragile* Power: 25 (15+10) (20 for ranged attacks (15+5)) Defense: 12 (7+5) Health: 16/30 (7+14+9) Ether: 0/0 Gold: 3 Equipment: Black Sword (WP:10, lightning-elemental), Fauxthril Shield (SP:7), Trendy Handbag (protects wearer from whatever bad effect was last inflicted to someone else in a battle), Heavy Armor (SP:5, protects from fragile-effect) Inventory: Throwing Knife (WP:5), Twin Longswords (WP:3), 5 Potions, 2 Grand Potions, Grand Tonic, Elixir, Remedy, Phoenix Essence, 3 Meads, 2 Venoms, Nostrum, Mythril Shard, Bedroll, Shovel, Aquamarine Johon (Bricksandparts) 25 years old male human Raider Level 17½ *Natural Respite* Power: 25 (17+8) Defense: 0 Health: 32/32 (8+16+1+7) Ether: 0/0 Gold: 228 Equipment: Sword of Decay (WP:8; once the target is inflicted with damage they lose a quarter of the power of the strike each following turn for three turns; the effect cannot be compounded with more strikes; suitable to Mages, Knights and Barbarians), Helmet (+1 max health), Dog Statuette (SP: 1, once named (Rover), speaking the name summons a dog almost certainly to tag along on madcap adventures and make snippy comments.) Inventory: Greatsword (WP:3), Meteor Blade (WP:8, Light elemental), Healing Staff (WP:5, Healing effect; lent to Arthur G Regulus- usable by mages and clerics), Focal Staff (WP:5; focus fire: roll a 3 for 5 ether; suitable for clerics and mages), Aquamarine, 3 Potions, 2 Venoms, Ice Bomb, Phoenix Essence, Mead, Shovel, 2 Pick-axes, Magnifying Glass, Magic Compass En Sabah Nur (Jebediahs) 30 year old male human Battle Mage Level 18½ *Lucky* *Natural Respite* *Immune to Fragile, Sealed and Blinded* Power: 30 (18+12) Defense: 5 Health: 27/27 (5+17+5) Ether: 12/23 (5+17+1) Gold: 288 Equipment: Stealth Dagger (WP: 12), Sealed Heavy Armour of Brilliance (SP:5,Immune: fragile, blinded, sealed effects), Loaded Die (Lucky effect), Inventory: En & Sabah & Nur (Shurikens 3/3, WP: 5), Sangriste Dagger (WP: 5), Helmet (+1 HP), Traveler's Cloak (SP: 1), Garnet (Earth), Aquamarine (Water), Scroll of Confusion, Scroll of Sealing, Scroll of Luck, 3 Potions, 2 Grand Tonics, 3 Phoenix Essences, Remedy, 4 Meads, 2 Smelling Salts, Venom, 2 Deadly Venom, Smoke Bomb, 2 Fire Bombs, 2 Ice Bombs, 2 Lightning Bombs, 2 Water Bombs, 2 Floral Bombs, 2 Holy Bombs, Bedroll, Magnifying Glass, Garnet Lamp of Summoning Party Leader, please choose who will get the spoils of the battle: Raw Meat - Permanently increases maximum health by 5 upon consumption. The party returns stealthily to Nuitan and his friend, and see that they've already finished eating and have continued to walk onwards. The day is bright and sunny, and the forest seems to be chock full of life. Everywhere around them, birds are chirping and singing, trees are wuthering and bushes are rustling. Following the boys from a good distance, the party sees a figure stepping from the bushes ahead of them and climbing on top of a tree. The figure seems to be observing the two boys. He hasn't spotted the party yet, so now they have a chance to catch him off guard. What will they do?

Yeah, I know it's unlikely that anyone will ever buy the helmet, but players have done crazy things for the sake of roleplaying before. I totally agree. Although the backgrounds in most of my banners are hand-drawn. Scaro (the werehyena) and Nemeshtar (the werepanther) are anthropomorphic animals, whereas the werewolves in Wolfgang are originally humans with the exception of Ulric. Let's just say that only the werewolves have learned how to "infect" other races with lycanthropy. All the other "weres" are pureblood.

OoC: Items permanently sold by Fabian can be automatically sold back to him for half their original price. Fabian nods. "Why, of course, Miss Rogue." Fabian hands over 200 gold for the talisman.

Ellaria cleared her throat. "If I may say something... It is obvious there's trouble a-brewing inside the warehouse, so let us split first before anyone barges in, like Atramor suggested. There's a good chance that whoever is inside will flee when they see the six of us. I know I would! How about me, Atramor and Skrall sneak in from the back, while the rest of you give this door a gentle knocking?" She then turned to Lord Boomingham, unable to hide her distaste. "Is our party leader sober enough to agree to this?"

~The Unlimited Quest: Fields of Glory is seeking a new party! The sign-ups will last until the 22nd of August.~

The three women decided to head back to the farm, perhaps returning at a later date. At the gate they were greeted by Old Mack and his farm animals. "Oink, oink! [Look, they're back!] "Cock-a-doodle-doo... [Well color me surprised...]" "Baah, baaaah. [Looks like it worked, Old Mack.]" "Welcome back, the three of you. It looks like you each managed to collect three Glory Points. It's not enough to be exchanged for any prize, but we'll keep a record of them for the oft chance you gals return here. Well, hope y'all had fun!" The heroes bid farewell to the residents of the farm, and headed back to Eubric. Party: Tesni Hightribe (Peppermint_M) 22 years old female human Berserker Level 24 1/3 *Natural Respite* Power: 38 (24+10+3+1) Defence: 11 (5+2+4) Health: 44/44 (8+23+10+2+1) Ether: 0/0 Gold: 605 Equipment: Mellt (WP:10, lightning- and ice-elemental hammer), Mockthril Shield (SP:5), Bone Claws (WP:3, SP:2), Dragon Bone Armor (SP:4, +2 max health) Inventory: Dryw ar Zoot (WP:14, light-elemental longsword), Cysgodion (WP: 11, darkness-elemental greatsword), Spiked Club (WP:8), Cryfder (WP:6), Wooden Club (WP:2), Old Boot (WP:1, ranged, retrievable), Emerald (Wood), 2 Potions, 2 Remedies, 2 Phoenix Essences, 3 Meads, 5 Venoms, Nostrum, Smoke Bomb, Minimizing Dust, Chain, 2 Bones Alexis Fenral (Played by Masked Builder) 19 years old female elven Evoker Level 21 1/3 *Hastened* *Immune to Fragile* Power: 31 (21+10) Defense: 3 Health: 4/29 (6+20+3) Ether: 13/22 (21+1) Gold: 92 Equipment: Mockthril Longbow (WP:10, ranged), Quickdraw Quiver (permanent hastened-effect), Lieutenant's Helmet (SP:3, protects from fragile) Inventory: Flute of the Magi (WP:3, asleep-effect), Opal (Ice), Topaz (Lightning), Ruby (Fire), Aquamarine (Water), Amethyst (Darkness), Tonic, Grand Tonic, Milk, 2 Meads, Nostrum, 2 Venoms, Smoke Bomb, Fire Bomb, Lightning Bomb, Pickaxe, Shovel, Bedroll, Magic Compass, Magnifying Glass, Bone, Raw Meat Spirits: Skorpios (Amethyst), Ocven the Ice Dragon (Opal), Shalma the Thunderbird (Topaz), Sarp Zarra (Aquamarine), Mandy (Ruby) Jess Islanti (Sisco) 74 year old female Elf Assassin Level 19½ *Immune to Weakened* Power: 32 (19+9+2+2) (damage divided between all enemies) Defense: 0 Health: 19/31 (7+18+5+1) Ether: 0/0 Gold: 66 Equipment: Cat-o'-Nine-Tails (WP:9, damage divided between all enemies, suitable for rogues), Pugilist's Gloves (Power +2, immune to the weakened-effect) Inventory: Blohdhurm (WP: 14, fire-elemental, permanently poisoned), Mercutio's Dagger of Mugging (WP:5, Mug Ability +5), Sword of the Vampir (WP: 17, user is jinxed), Potion, 3 Grand Potions, 2 Remedies, Mead, 3 Venoms

Great review, I must say! This is actually my first (and so far only) LotR set. It was expensive (I bought it from France for 99 €), and I can't tell if it was really worth the price as a whole set (I don't like how it reminds me more of theatrical setting than an actual cave), but the wonderful minifigures and the unique parts almost make up for it. I can't wait for the line to come to my country so I can get the rest of the sets.

Well, it makes sense to me that there's a chance to assassinate any enemy that the weapon touches.

OoC: Yes, you did. Why do you ask? Oh, and from now on, the Cat-o'-Nine-Tails does not negate Free Hits except from the main target. Assassination and added effects will still apply to all enemies.

Alright then, I agree to this. Now I curse myself for making such complex items. I feel like such a hypocrite for preaching about such items to others earlier...

OoC: A Hunter cannot "unfavor" any type of enemy until he rolls a Shield and replaces it with the type of the targetted enemy. That means the favored enemy type (or in Skrall's case, both types now that he has the Hunter's Quiver) carry from battle to battle and quest to quest. Ellaria smells Boomingham before she sees him. The portly man slurrs heavily, and Ellaria cannot help but to feel disgusted. The man reminds him too much of Elpis's conceiver. He was drunk, too, that night... "Yes, I remember you..." Then an elf comes to them, and greets her. Ellaria is relieved to have someone else to turn her attention to. "Well met, Mr. Galadhras. I hear you and Nyx joined Heroica at the same time, yes?"

Fabian pondered. "But will anyone buy it from me for 60 gold? Hmm... Alright then, but only if you promise to buy lots and lots. I don't mind seeing more of you muscular gentlemen frequenting my store... " The elven merchant hands Xander 30 gold for the robe.

I wouldn't mind if people changed the Horse to a Magical Horseshoe of Equine Summoning, or something in the lines of what has been suggested here. Fabian would have no trouble accepting something like that into his store, either... And yes, I'm rolling for assassination for all the enemies hit by the Cat-O'-Nine-Tails. It looks like the whip is deadly in other hands than Atramor's as well.