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It is a bit hard to discern the structure in the above pic. Perhaps a pic from directly above. The 10221 actually have some city structure - even though it can be hard to see from the side.

Having constructed this myself, I can safely say that the weight of the wings will help provide the correct angle - I was a bit puzzled here myself :)

I'm intrigued! At 120 cm you'll be using a lot of technic bricks I really like your snowspeeder, so I have high hopes for this one Any reason you chose to make it 120cm - other than being crazy big - the ship is very wide you know? Finally, what mechanism are you planning for the wings? Keep bricking

Anyone here knows when next year's UCS model(s) will be named? My dream scenario would be: "Slave 1" and "Nebulon-B Medical Frigate" with a scale falcon Other UCS sets I would like to see are: A-wing AT-AT Rebel Transport TIE Fighter TIE Bomber Sandcrawler Luke's Speeder (X-34) Home One (with scale rebel transport ) Cloud Car Cloud City scale model - with scale refinery Speeder Bike Probe Droid Bonus from the EU: The Outrider

You can get the 10221 for 335Euros new on bricklink - If you do that I suggest you mod it though

At a glance it looks like you both have placed the forward engines a bit too close to the middle engines - length wise. As far as I can see the forward engines should be moved a stud or two more forward, perhaps a stud more than that on Skayen's model. This observation is based on the modelermagic photos, where the two gaps between the three engine sections look to be not that different in length. Is red really faster? Perhaps I gotta change mine...

I don't think the width is a problem, it is a matter of finding the right size engines It doesn't look that far off, but perhaps the cylinders which make up the forward part of your engines are tiny bit too wide? Also, the middle engines are a bit shorter than the engines in the back, look here

Hi Bob, first of all welcome to Eurobricks! And what a first post, amazing work! I am one of the MANY Executor fanatics on this forum and I'll be more than happy to comment on your design. Quick note, I think your design is already beautiful; the following comments are just suggestions towards perfection - which may never be fully realized through the medium of LEGO You LDD MOC has a very nice, sleek profile looking very much like the studio model My mate has created this blue print based on the studio model. Quick question, it seems you have based you model on Lasses Deleuran's excellent Executor MOC - is that so? Just curious, because many of the proportions and the general desing seems to be the same. When you look at the blue print, it seems the the tail of your MOC is a smidgen too wide compared to the width of the ship, and the city does not stretch backward far enough. Then there is the recurring topic of width. You basically have two options when designing the angle of the main body - which in turns decides the width of the ship: the 12x3 wedge or the 4x2wedge. The 12x3 is far the most used and the one you are already using. Using this will give you are more narrow rendition of the ship - which some may find preferable based on how the ship is generally perceived when watching the movies. The 2x4 wedge option gives you a wider ship which is actually closer to the width of the studio model. It will be a bit too wide, and can be perceived as more wrong as the narrower option. However, many people often think that the studio model itself looks too wide - so this all comes down to perception and personal preferences. Keep it up! EDIT: OMG Skayen beat my reply by three minutes!

Unfortunately the animation it is actually not on the ESB Blu-ray - and the shot sof the ship in the film do not pan or rotate around the ship :/ The animation is found on the disc called: "Disc 2: Bonus Disc Episodes IB-VI Archives" Do you have that on file as well?

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@ John, I dont mind sending bricks to Australia, as long as it is for a good cause I must say, I totally understand your dilemma. In shot, a shorter tail is perhaps more correct, but the price you pay in terms of fighting with the other angles and proportions probably isn't worth it. However finding out what "correct" really is, is still the primary challenge - if any further tweaking is to be justified. There actually is a little animation of the ship. It may be a render, but it could actually be the model itself with a panning camera. In any case it is the correct proportions. Unfortunatly I do not have a Blu-ray drive in any of my computers Thus grabbing the animation is not really feasible. I could grab it on the TV-screen, but I think that would defeat the purpose of correctness Someone out there must have the SW Blu-rays and a Blu-ray drive in their PC?

Here it is: Not the best quality. I tried to get the frame of the TV in the pic as well, so you can determine whether the pic of a pic was taken at an angle also

Always happy to meet a fan I had a look at the blu-ray and... Didn't have any way to grab the pic - not even a phone camera. I will get it soon though! However, I did notice that the render is taken at an angle, so it will be hard to determine precisely. My gut feeling though, tells me that Aeroeza's render looks about right. Anyway, I'll grab that pic ASAP PS.: I'll donate my SPARE parts MYSELF! I love my UCSs waaay too much to take them apart But perhaps I could have more than one SSD? Just need a bigger apartment...

Regarding the B-wing design, I completely agree with Aeroeza - It's a beauty However, using another color scheme would (while perhaps more being accurate when looking at the film model) disrupt the look established by other UCS ships. For example could the 10179 be white or sand colored instead of bley, but it seems that lego has settled and black, white and greys as base colors for their UCS ships. Having the B-wing using another color scheme would make it look like the odd one out compared to the rest (given the size of you collection of corse ) And don't worry Aeroeza, I already have found the bricks needed for modding the curved/sloped bricks leading up to the cockpit - By the way have you noticed that blueprint on the spec sheet sports another solution in this area?

What a wonderful interview! The fact that you mentioned Timothy Zahn's EU SW novels just gave you even more geekcred than you had before (and trust me you have A LOT ). And yes, I do believe Fallen is lurking around here - and like him, I also look very much forward to your next MOCs! Keep bricking! Cheers Morten

Seems like building SSDs has become somewhat of a trend here As a self proclaimed SSD nut, I really like what you have done with this MOC. Your attention to detail is wonderful - especially considering the small form factor you are working with That you have also managed to slope the forward and engines in relation to the lower hull, really makes me a fan of this MOC I would like to see the model from some more angles though- profile, bottom etc.. I want to see everything and make more comments!

Very nice work here I like your detailing and the clean look -the original X-wing is a it messy. But perhaps you model is a bit too clean - X-wing are supposed to be dirty Other than that, I agree with Cave regarding the proportion tweaks, but this has the potential to be one of the very best X-wing MOCs out there

Lego obviously isn't using only brick count to set the price (at least not very consistently). The paradox is that if they had used hundreds more tiny plates (instead of larger ones) to construct the core of the wings to get to a brick count of around 2000, we would have gotten the same exact looking model, but being way more unstable but at a "better" price. A lot of factors are part of setting the price (and what Lego thinks they can possible get for it is certainly a factor here), and price per brick is IMO not giving a clear picture of value of the product and design costs/productions costs/brick value/license fees etc. Anyway, I'm getting this set. If I thought it was poorly designed, I wouldn't care if it was dirt cheap per brick, I wouldn't buy it

So far the B-Wing UCS set looks really great - the canopy can be discussed, but I'll have to see it in person. I think the reason that a few people have mixed feelings about the general design of the ship, is that they compare it to other people's MOCs and not the film model itself. Like an official model, a MOC is always the designer's interpretation. So expecting to see two different interpretations match up will always be unsatisfactory. However, comparing the official model and the various MOCs out there with the film model, I must say that the official model looks like it can hold its own. Regarding the price point; Lego is not cheap, and SW UCS Lego is very expensive. However, I don't really understand this arbitrary discussion of brick count vs. price. First of all, the cost of individual bricks varies greatly and this set seem to utilize many obscure parts. We might as well discuss the length of the model vs. price and as such, the B-wing is much cheaper than say, the UCS R2-D2. A model represents much more than simply the sum of its bricks. Different models have different design procesess and some models goes though more iterations and longer test periods than others - all of which is part of the price. Of course Lego also wants to earn a pretty penny and considers market segments and marketing budgets when pricing a set. But they also give away their designs freely, so you can BrickLink all their models if price per brick is your concern - and buy any minifigs to put in the models, should you so desire So far the B-Wing looks like a day one purchase for me - maybe I'll mod it but I don't know yet

Thanks for a fulfilling reply John! I really admire the effort you have put into this – it reminds me of Aeroeza’s work. It is a rare experience to meet such a passionate, fellow minded “geek” - Kudos and respect to you indeed This is how I arrived at the “shoulder” points of the model - based on Aeroeza’s render. Aeroeza’s references could be off, or maybe his calculations are inaccurate, but don’t tell him I said that. Anyway here is my quick estimation based on his render: 12,7km / 17,6km = 0,722 According to this the “shoulders” should be at 0,722 of the ship’s total length. As far as I can see the shoulders on your model is at about 0,658 of the ship's total length. Anyway, I don’t really know how accurate this is - and it really don’t matter much, because your model stunningly captures the look of the film model. Furthermore, your model is the first I have seen with a seamless “widening” of the wings compared to the city down the length of the model – very well done! And I completely agree, in the end it is about personal interpretation and preferences. And my own mod certainly uses a lot of “interpretation” I think I have a top down ILM render of the film model on an ESB Blu-Ray somewhere, maybe I’ll have a look at that – it is still fun to solve the “riddle” of film model Again, I hope to see you put this digital model into bricks. I'm happy to donate some of my brick collection to this project. I have a large stash of 12x3 wedge plates and other bricks and also a lot of old style hinges should you require those. Just let me know. Cheers Morten

Thanks for the kind words Yes, we seem to be the only ones caring to slope our forward engines I have actually lowered the end of the city a bit more since these pictures were taken - making the model sleeker still. I have also added a bit more detail to parts of the engine section - mainly to make the forward, sloping engines look more integrated into the model. Regarding disassembling, you're right. It would be a bit troublesome, but I might have to do one day to make instructions PM me if you want more/new pics of the model Cheers Morten

Amen! On another note, my first impression of this set is quite good. Perhaps I'll make a brick built canopy, but I like the fact that is uses many obscure pieces. Aside from the canopy, I think the cockpit section itself is actually very well done.

Way to go Lobot! This was indeed an awesome undertaking, and thanks for the funny progress reports As a fellow Death Star owner, I am curious to see what measures you intend to take making the model more sturdy. I haven't done anything to make it more robust myself, but my guests are getting tired of being told to "move VERY slowly" when in the room Oh, a quick note: even if you consider the DSII to be 160km in diameter, the "scale" Executor is still way too big, please fix that

HI Skayen, and welcome to Eurobricks! I just got home from a short vacation, only to find links to your magnificent creation waiting in my mailbox – what a nice surprise You have really nailed many of the proportions of the real thing to an obsessive degree, pressing the medium to its limits with only very minor compromises. I’m impressed! I have studied the official Executor model myself extensively – with the invaluable help of the always helpful Aeroeza. The purpose of the study was to mod the official set (10221) to be more in line with the film model – addressing all the shortcomings you yourself point out; missing bottom, lowering angles etc. Regarding the discussion of width, I also found that the wedge (4 x 2) you have chosen to dictate the breadth of the ship was a bit more accurate than the one usually used when building SSDs. I think Aeroeza’s render of the studio model is perhaps ever so slightly slimmer than your resin comparison, but your width still isn’t far off. In fact, when I was modding the 10221 the width was a recurring topic, but in the end I decided to go with the slimmer design – simply based on my subjective perception of the ship when watching the movies. However, I must admit your “wide” version is very very good. I also like that your have extended the tail of the ship, but perhaps you have gone slightly overboard when looking at the film model? In any case the official model's tail is definitely too short. As far as I can see the tail on the resin model is also a bit too long compared to the film version, and you have made it a bit longer still. According to your renders and my calculations based on the film model the tail on your model should "begin" about 9cm further away from the tip of the ship. However, I understand this compromise was necessary to "slim" down the model. The Lego designer had the opposite problem because his model was too narrow so he opted to make the tail shorter. Note; when I mention the "film model" it is a reference to Aeroeza's research and this "modeler magic" page From time to time I still build on my Executor, adding more detail and tweaking stuff. I’m a greeble nut and this ship sure poses many challenges in that regard. I think your approach to detailing is a breath of fresh air, and I find the “less is more” method inspiring – although I in some places have gone in the opposite direction with my own model – especially the engine section, which I continue to “upgrade”. You can see my mod here (although most of the pics are somewhat “outdated” because of my continuous tweaking): My link Finally, congratulations on a job superbly done

Good Job Lobot, and thanks for an entertaining thread! I got my DSII for around 300$ about a year ago and I'm very happy with it It stands right next to the Falcon Some have complained that the unfinished plate "belt" is a little too see-though, but I don't really have a problem with it. Alternatively you could create a second layer of detailing beneath the surface, but as wobbly as the set is, I wouldn't recommend it A very nice UCS set - with a somewhat risky design, but I'm glad TLG made it