Dragonator

I'll say it again, if there is no evidence that there is a third party, that's probably because there isn't! I maintain that that was a terrible theory. On the whole though, I do commend you for trying to think at least Scumba. You're not the only one that go things wrong as you can see, but Rick and Pandy didn't help themselves much! I was very pleased with how well the town power roles worked together, even if Scouty and I were convinced from early on that WBD was an SK. Really awesome playing Darkdragon, you did a great job to try and throw us at the end there. If not for your quick thinking in convo with WBD, I would have blocked you and the game would have ended right there I would say. Well done giving your team an extra chance! And thanks for all the mind twisting, I always appreciate it. I'm looking forward to the mind twisting you have prepared for us soon. Overall I approve of the game balance, both sides had some interesting actions which caused the town all sorts of mayhem. The Paranoid Axe Owner is always a tricky one, as it is more likely to cause the town harm than it is to cause harm to the scum. I think having two vigs was certainly interesting, it is good to not always play to people's expectations. I would encourage you to join us.

You're in a big boy game now. It isn't something that a host is expected to do, but some do anyway. If you really want feedback and the host isn't going to be doing it you could always ask him for some in PM.

Yeah I was a bit paranoid on night 5 and told several people to lynch you the next day if I was killed, DD. My role:

Woo! Awesome game TPRU, thank you! Perfect timing for it to end on the day of my last exam. I had a great time, and your presentation and hosting was top notch as always. So manly!

Well, this is boring. More manly drinking I say! Oh what's this, another note? Thanks...

Erm, it can't be neither of you because you two are the only options left, unless you want to incriminate Sveinn. Try again! To be honest I think it highly likely you both could be, for if Dagrun didn't convert you, someone did. But we will tackle that question if and when we need to.

I was convinced because you were convinced, actually. I listened to your concerns the previous night, when you assured me that Dagrun and Petrus were scum, and then went with that the next day. Funny that you were so absent yesterday and left me to argue the case against Petrus for you. Funny also that you lay the blame for Rurik at my feet; it was commonly agreed that he seemed the most suspicious after Petrus. Sveinn and I discussed it at length, Canute and I discussed it at length, you and I talked about it, it was not not just me telling you to kill him blindly. If you had had any doubts, you would have raised them. But no, you were quite happy to kill him, perhaps because you knew you could lay the blame on someone else and it would be helping you towards your goal. I already answered what happened between Hervi and I actually, I even quoted the PMs yesterday. Clearly you haven't been paying much attention. You also forget that I led the lynch against him on Day 3. I think the part about scum roles being shared around is probably very true, so the lack of scum kill either means you are the last scum, so you can't use your action multiple times, or Snotra is the scum, since he was blocked.

Not thrown under the bus; if you are a townie like you claim you'll still win with us. I feel it is highly likely that you were converted to the scum team, therefore lynching you makes sense. There is no way for us to be certain you were not converted without lynching you. It is quite a simple explanation. We're not lynching you because you're the SK, we're lynching you because you are probably now scum. I think the fact you're suddenly trying to accuse me is rather telling also, after your accusations against Snotra failed to raise any sympathy for your cause. Grasping at straws perhaps?

Thanks for finally sharing those PMs with us Snotra. As much as I don't feel you deserve to survive with those of us that have been working hard here, I think the best way forward is probably to lynch Wary. If we end up having another day though, you will be the one that we lynch tomorrow, without a doubt. I shall unvote: Snotra (Scubacarrot) and vote: Wary (Waterbrickdown). You've been a great help to the town Wary, but at this stage we really don't need any more killing at night, and the only way for us to be certain that you aren't hiding as scum is to lynch you.

Not helping yourself much Snotra.

Suspicious also. I don't think your suspicious conversation quite cuts it, I had one of those too and it that doesn't seem to have stopped you from suspecting me. How about I vote: Snorta Carrotface (Scubacarrot) to get you talking. I want to see these so called PMs which clear you.

Possibly Beorn?

You got two townies killed, and probably our most useful one right now, the tracker. Yes very helpful. That aside though, your roleclaim does make some vague sense... sort of. A little convenient that you claim a townie role after the fact, when we were discussing the possibility of a scum bomb yesterday, but I guess if worst comes to worst we can lynch you later. I think the best action today is probably to lynch Wary, who still hasn't had anything to say.

Right, and Canute tracked Wilhalm on night 5 and he did nothing, so he certainly didn't do any converting.

Right, maybe try thinking without your huge obsession with killing me. It isn't overly helpful. It's quite simple if you look at it. Wary may or may not have been converted, but killing him will certainly help us figure out which is true. I think it's becoming increasingly clear he doesn't win with the town. Once he is gone, we either win or we need to figure out who the scum is that converted him; Patrekr, you or Sveinn. Easy huh?

I already said it would be a good idea to vote off the SK... By your logic though, if there are 3 scum plus an SK, that makes 4 against 3 townies, so they would just vote off a townie and win, right? So you're clearly wrong with that theory, as usual.

But if there are three scum plus the SK, surely the SK would just side with the three scum and vote off a townie? According to that idea, you've already lost, which is nonsense.

So, you think there are three scum, Svienn, Wary and I? When I just raised why I think we should vote for both of them? If Wary is truly scum, he will naturally claim to be the SK and try to get someone else killed, that is obvious. If he claims that, who do you think the third scum is with myself and Sveinn? I find it very unlikely that there are three scum left, not least because one of them would have to be you, since I know I'm not one. Personally I think Wary is probably scum, and possibly one other, the person that completed the conversion of him. That one other would probably have to be Sveinn if Patrekr's "paranoid axe killer" claim is to be believed. Fangy didn't target anyone night 5, so we know it wasn't him that did the conversion, if one occurred. I think Wary is probably a better lynch since we know he can kill at night. Leaving him alive gives the possibility for he and the scum to kill two more townies, which in your opinion would make us lose.

I would agree that I find it very odd that Wary was so quiet yesterday. I still think that conversion is very possible, and Sveinn is right, he is the only killer left by the looks of it. Not to mention he set up Petrus beautifully yesterday, and by extension myself since I was bent on following that lead instead of the third party idea which I knew was wrong. It does come down to this; Gofraid was clearly the town vig. That makes Wary an SK. While he was working with us up to a point, I do think that conversion is very likely. It is clear his kill action isn't passed around like the scum one was, so if we lynch him, the night kills stop. That seems like a pretty solid reason for a lynch to me.

You were also convinced I was in a third scum faction with Canute, which is clearly wrong. Obviously, we were all wrong yesterday, you included. The way forward is to think logically, not illogically. Clearly we have two options; Wary framed Petrus, or Dagrun did. If Dagrun did, then that makes sense I admit. If Wary did, it was to force us away from suspecting him. As has been noted, I would be perfectly happy with lynching Wary, but I am uncertain at this stage that it is the right thing to do. I do not believe there are three factions, and Wary has killed several servants so far. However, since Petrus was town, he was either converted that night, or no attempt at conversion was made. If you honestly think Wary and I are on a scum team Snotra, surely you would be trying to lynch Wary, who has been doing the killing, and not me? I find the fact that you are so focused on me rather odd. If you wish to try and help figure things out then do feel free to chip in, otherwise you can leave it to the rest of us, I don't mind. Your views on Patrekr, Wary and Sveinn would be appreciated however.

Erm, why is it obvious? You'll need to spell it out for me since we were all wrong yesterday it seems.

Cranebeinn also said that on night three he was told he was unsuccessful, and on night 4 he was told he was successful but with no effect. He was definitely blocked night 3. One thing worth noting, as Patrekr pointed out, was that Snotra was blocked last night and there was no apparent scum kill. We have a lot of confusing choices ahead of us today...

Interesting that you decided to keep your role hidden when you knew it was likely townies would be checking on you. Interesting you knew about my concerns regarding a bomb action, and didn't say anything. Interesting indeed that you gave that advice to Cranebeinn and didn't tell him not to target you. Why did you not come forward as a paranoid axe owner so that we wouldn't lose townies? You've set us back a great deal Patrekr, and I have to wonder if it was done with scummy intentions. Either way, not very helpful of you to kill off two townies. I think things aren't looking too hot for you, but let's have a little discussion about our other possible target for today; Svienn. Svienn has claimed the role of protector. So far, I haven't seen any reason to doubt this. But, I haven't seen any evidence that he actually is a protector either, which causes me some concern. Svienn claims to have targeted me on nights 2, 4, 5 and 6. On night 3, he apparently targeted Bergulf and was blocked. He was seen targeting me on nights 2 and 5. Here's my concern. What if he isn't protecting me? What if he has been using the scum decoy action on me? On night 2, Bergulf got a town result on Hervi, which can be explained by a decoy role being targeted to someone else. On night 3, Sveinn claims to have been blocked in trying to protect Bergulf. However, I blocked Finn, and Cranebeinn claims to have been blocked that night too. So who blocked Sveinn? I was almost wondering if I was decoyed to block him, but I didn't get a woozy result, so that can't be right. Nights 4 and 5 he was likely decoying to me as well, although I'm unsre if that had any effect. Last night, he was under the impression that the watcher was on me, so rather than killing he would have used the decoy role again so that he was seen targeting me, which would solidify his position as a trustworthy protector. Instead, the watcher looked at Snotra and saw me block him apparently. So we have two potential leads there, what are your thoughts everyone? There are only 7 of us left ,we need to be careful about this decision. However, I do feel there are still only one or possibly two scum left, which means we are not at a critical decision point. I think some suspicion has to be cast on Wary also, for if Petrus was not scum then was he converted by someone else? I am unsure at the moment if that is so, but I figure that he could be the second servant, if there is second servant left. If Sveinn is a servant then I would say that Wary was not converted as Svienn targeted me on night 5. If Patrekr is the servant then Wary could have been converted.

Definitely the grave of a Witch.

Well! Certainly not the result I was hoping for considering the stupid arguments that were made yesterday. Ah well. However, I do believe we can be certain of one thing; we can be certain of who killed Canute. Canute was tracking Patrekr last night. I think that makes it obvious who did the killing. I also find it hilarious that Patrekr came running to me last night shouting about my bomb idea from yesterday and how I must be lying. Seems I was right about that at least. Our other suspects are Snorta and Wilhalm. Snotra was blocked last night, so it probably wasn't him. Wilhalm was seen doing nothing the night before by Canute, so I also doubt it was him.