damian_kane_iv

Newest photos of bodywork are in. I'm happy with how it looks and all I need to do is add mirrors, lights, fill in gaps, and do and the interior. Chassis looks much cleaner now and I've reinforced it. I've found a nice balance with the angled panels that replicates the front grill really well. I think it should be finished after a little more tweaking. I don't like the front windscreen yet, I'll probably lower it by a stud and put a lightbar over it: Rear is also ready. But I'm considering extending the rear bumper out by a stud: More angles of the front: On a side note, the body and chassis is almost completely modular. I can remove most of it by pulling out a few pins here and there. I'll but together an update when I'm 100% done, but I'm really happy with the chassis design. I think I'll be able to re-use it for other models with alternative gearboxes and powertrain setups in the future.

I think you should try the coupe version. Many people have made aventador mocs before but I have yet to see a satisfying recreation of the angled roof. I think it can be done with angled (~135 degrees) axle and pin connectors and some flex cables kinda like how LoxLego likes use in most of his models. Im going to attempt it mysef in a 1:10 aventador but itd be interesting to see how other people accomplish it. I feel like we're the same in how we approach driver controls. Im currently having trouble arranging all my driver controls in my 4runner moc and considering HOG only for some. I personally dont care, but I know other people on this forum will tell you that they would prefer hog and driver control options. Are you planning on making instructions?Id be interested in paying for the suspension and 4 wheel steering alone but the rest looks like its shaping out nicey.

Have you tried this setup with harder springs?

Thanks! It's always interesting how people from different pursue the same hobby Yeah youtube flickr and instagram are the main sites where I see builders from other countries who aren't on Eurobricks

This might seem like a weird question but I've always been curious about the non English-speaking technic communities, namely Russian and Eastern European groups. It seems like people from these countries build some of the craziest and most sophisticated off-road and truck-type technic MOCs. For example, Stas Revin (https://www.youtube.com/@StasRevin) isn't on any English-speaking forums (to the best of my knowledge) but his builds are definitely worth checking out. I'd like to see more of these builds because some of the techniques and builds they've made are quite impressive. I'm in the U.S. and only speak English so I stick to eurobricks and flickr for technic, but it seems like there's a whole other world out there on non-English forums (Asia too). Does anyone here who uses other forums have good suggestions or links? To the guys in Russia and Eastern Europe; is there any reason that there's a stronger interest in off-road type MOCs? In America, I feel like we're obsessed with supercars and construction to a lesser extent but not much else.

This model looks really good! There haven't been many BMW models recently (that Im aware of) so its about time for a new one

I wont lie I am tempted

Very exciting to see this moc getting instructions.. now I have to decide between building this or saving my parts for my own mocs

lol I was spending too much time on my 4runner moc when I was suddenly hit with inspiration for a new front axle design

4/2/23 Update: Ive started to patch up gaps in the bodywork and I have a new grill design. Colors are mismarched while I wait for new parts to come in. Im very satisfied with the new suspension. There are coilover/spring parts as well as a parallel hydraulic system. I finished my rear axle too. It has all five links, I like the design a lot. Only thi g left to do is find a design that can accomadate diff lock. Finally Ive implemented rudimentary motorization. I dont have plnetary hubs yet so its not a strong crawler but the next thing on my todo list is to re-work the gearbox for RC and improve the torque and power with new hubs and more motors:

4/2/23 Update: Ive taken advice from people here and re-designed the front suspension and gearbox. Im using Anto's 7+R design which fits in very well. The new setup is sturdier, more compace, and cleaner: Im really pleased with the front suspension. It's much more compact and sturdy: The steering rack and gear is also closer to the wheels and partially hidden in the front axle:

I think having two axles as opposed to a rear axle and front independent suspension is a nice touch. Unfortunatey most new off-road vehicles (other than the jeep) dont use that setup anymore so we gotta decide between accurate or fun lego models. Looks like it performs really well. I just started to motorize my 1:10 Toyota 4Runner moc and Ive been considering these planetary hubs. I get a ton of gear clicking and skipping even when I attach a motor directly to the center differential. Im going to have to make a sturdier housing for my gears for sure, but your moc has got me thinking that I might not have enough torque at each wheel and its putting strain on the center differential...

Forget what I said then, this design was originally Madoca's!

Very nice model! I'm thinking about building a Ford Bronco in the same scale with those black wheel arch pieces and same tires! I was going to try making it in medium blue. The functions and design are very impressive as well. Your comments on the difficulty of building an independent front suspension setup definitely resonate with me as I've been contemplating the same problem. Thirdwigg came up with a great solution: https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-90723/thirdwigg/42126-raptor-v-8-4x4/#details for his 4x4 Raptor model that I was strongly considering for my own Bronco.

That pushrod suspension looks great. I bought a set of those shock absorbers in blue and Im almost certainly using them for either a 1:8 aventador or some type of 1:8 off-roader. Excited to see how this turns out

Yeah I was considering this too when I first started working on this moc. That would definitely make the build much more accurate. That being said, my shop skills aren't good enough to give me the courage to try that out haha ... And I really like these fender pieces so I'm thinking of preserving them for any future mocs I might design.

I've had quite a few light blue grey pieces from around 2014 onwards crack after sitting around in storage for a few years. Breaks are also over-represented around axle connection points. Interestingly I also had a blue liftarm chip and break on another model after a few years (in the dark as well)

lol It's more of a dream at the moment. I'm in a PhD program so there's no money for a 4runner but a TRD off road or pro would be nice to have... my brother has an older 5th gen. I really really wanted to use the olive green because I thought it was a fantastic LEGO color when I saw it on the Defender set and I'd been brainstorming MOC ideas to use all the spare olive pieces I bought. I'm also a big fan of the large fender pieces from the Defender and wanted to put them to good use! That being said, I see no reason why I couldn't make this MOC in a different color with fender substitutes. I agree that a different color like white, orange, or even lime would make my life much much easier but I appreciate the challenge of getting the bodywork right with the restrictions. Considering getting bricks in olive to smooth out the edges when the time comes. Yes, Wheelbase is ~1-2 studs too long. I scaled the model according to those fender pieces and this is a problem I'm brainstorming solutions to. The new gearbox took up a little more space than I bargained for, so I need to modify the housing. Rear diff lock has 2 locking rings because I'm a fan of symmetry and I wanted to keep torque as equal as possible between the 2 rear wheels when unlocked. That being said... the rear axle is too flimsy with this setup so I might just replace it with a pneumatic system and one driving ring so I can beef up the axle.

New updates on my MOC: I was able to more or less finish the 4runner before taking it apart to improve it top to bottom. I am curently working on a completely new chassis that includes a gearbox with 4 speed sequential shifting, central diff lock, rwd only setting, rear diff lock, and improved suspension with more travel. https://www.flickr.com/photos/195160890@N03/52541306572/in/dateposted-public/ The gearbox is now fully integrated into the chassis and is much more compact. https://www.flickr.com/photos/195160890@N03/52541769066/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/195160890@N03/52542246390/in/dateposted-public/ I have also put a lot more work into creating a much more rigid chassis overall with slightly more modularity (still not completely modular). Finally, Ive gotten more parts to create bodywork that has fewer gaps and looks smoother. https://www.flickr.com/photos/195160890@N03/52541769171/in/dateposted-public/ I also recenlty bought a lot of pneumatics parts and I plan to add pneumatic shocks to front and rear suspensions. I will implement the KDSS system once the small pneumatic cylinder becomes available on bricks and pieces. Finally, I'm going to get some 9.5L hard spring shock absorbers for the front and rear for better travel overall. Let me know how it looks now and where I can improve

Thanks, I was thinking about doing a more traditional setup for the diff lock but I decided to try this dual setup for exactly that reason as there were still torque differences even when the diff lock was open. The Bohrok eyes allowed me to use the most of the space and are surprisingly sturdy when it comes to holding the diff locks in position

I've been pretty busy with school/work but I managed to make some progress on the exterior. I plan to strip this model down and re-work everything from the ground up as well. I want to eventually add a rear diff lock and optional 4-wheel drive eventually while I re-work it. The front looks off from this angle, but I plan to smooth out angles and improve the hood. I like the rear but there are parts that can improve. Finally, here is a mockup of a rear diff-lock axle that I could implement in this model:

This is a really great model with so many things done right! Your suspension and gearbox designs have inspired me to rethink my own models and work towards better and more accurate solutions/designs. I recently tried replicating your designs and what I have works pretty well, great geometries: Front mockup Rear mockup Out of curiosity, were you ever planning on publishing these instructions on Rebrickable? I've always thought of your models as great studies for how to get the most out of 1:10 scale MOCs.

More updates: I've slowed down on progress a bit because I'm in school and work has picked up a bit. Still, I've made progress on getting a rough-draft body together. I want to get a general idea of how it will look. Then, I will take it apart and re-work the chassis and frame with the goal of incorporating suggestions on the drivetrain and transmission. I'm still thinking of how I can implement more robust off-road features like diff locks and on/off 4WD, but I'm satisfied with things for the time being while I get a 1st draft of the whole thing. I've been trying out a few different setups for the front grille but it's still a WIP, so any suggestions on how I can achieve a 4runner look with olive and black pieces is welcome (maybe lack of parts in olive will drive me to eventually adopt white or yellow). I really like the center and can't wait to see how it will look when I add in system pieces. Here are a few pics of an alternate front grille idea. Side profile is starting to look like an SUV and I'm liking the look with gold wheels, but I don't like the tires so much.. Another major sticking point with using olive only is a lack of pieces with nice curves. I'm feel like I'm getting close to an acceptable hood design. Let's just say this hood is aftermarket and made out of carbon fiber for now.. And I've managed to maintain a good amount of interior space for seats and consoles eventually.

Update on the MOC: I've started on implementing gearbox details into the 4Runner. For now, I'm going with a 4-speed AWD design by Crowkillers with a center diff. I might delve into trying to replicate a TRD-Pro later but I want to finish the MOC ASAP by sticking with a simpler setup. One thing that would be really cool is using LEGO pneumatics to replicate Pro's KDSS, but I don't have any at the moment. Right now it has a V6 and a 4-speed gearbox and I want to implement a DNR shifter as well. I'm liking how the doors are turning out but theres definitely room for improvement. Finally, I've overhauled the chassis and added a bed/trunk space, but it's pretty constrained due to wheel width.

I had a similar idea when I attempted to make a custom gearbox for this MOC: In earlier versions, a grey 16-tooth selector gear meshed directly with the center diff. I'm not too experienced with lego gearbox planning, so I could never get it to work how I wanted. I wonder whether anyone other than Crowkillers has attempted to design a gearbox that meshes at both ends of the center differential..