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I've finally completed to draw back in Stud.io what I built yesterday evening, so it's time to unveil the body of the locomotive. These are the parts used for building the body: front end, rear end, hoods, sides and roof: As you can see I'm at a "papercraft" level, so windows are black like if they were designed on paper over the body. I wanted them not transparent since I saw an old wooden toy. After all, there's nothing to look at inside! I tried to leave the windows "open" but believe me, it was terrible. Here's the final assembly of chassis + body (front view): And this is the rear view (do you spot any differences? NO? You're right, after all) : The rear "lights" at least help to remember you to where the driven axle is. Currently the locomotive is yellow and black, but tomorrow I'll order the blue and gray parts. Ciao! Davide
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Nice work! The "hand" as door handle is a good idea!!!
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Fascinating piece of machinery!!! And the solutions you found are so clean! What will it use as a track? Ciao! Davide
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Indeed! I bought 512kb of ram for the C128 in order to run it, discovering three weeks later that the new AMIGA was out.
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That's a great MOW rolling ladder - It's effective as the original one! Brilliant!!! Thanks a lot! Even without motor, I'm already in love with that ladder!!! . _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. _ . _ . _. Here's some videos about the chassis tests. First, the rubber band at work! https://www.flickr.com/photos/138174786@N04/51572413363/in/dateposted-public/ And here's the track test: https://www.flickr.com/photos/138174786@N04/51572411473/in/dateposted-public/ And then, some...(sorry for the joke but it fits nicely) - ...BAD NEWS! - WWWWHAT? - THE DACIA SANDERO... OH, NO! NOW, The chassis has a problem. Not regarding how it works, but how the weight is distributed. As a matter of fact , the load on traction axle is lower than the load on the free axle. And with the weight of the body, things will get worse. So as a first remediation, I removed the nylon bands around the free axle wheels. Then, I think this thread could help: Let's see what I can do for this issue!
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....working on it, but it's a real mess to "pirate" those old parts
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Thanks Emanuele!!!
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Aaaah yes, with snot you can reduce the gap for sure, even on 6-wide Go on with experiments, E69 are always nice to see around 😍
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Now after all those designs...something real to look at! Chassis has been completed after a bit of "home shopping" - unfortunately my Lego parts are not organized as I would like so I lose a lot of time - but after all I knew more or less where to find them, so buying other parts was useless. Here's the chassis , all in black: And , finally, the rubber band transmission is ready. Here you can see the first real difference between the Piko prototype and the Lego version. The 12v motor of the Piko (seems a 130 type) runs at a very high speed, while the Circuit Cubes works at 4v more or less (I measured 3.88v), and it's slower. But it's really smooth and develops a good torque. Therefore the Piko model is reducing the speed using a smaller driver pinion and a big driven drum on the axle. Being the CC motor already geared, I use a 1:1 gear ratio, so both drums are sized equally. I tried also a smaller driver pinion, but this results in a very low speed. I can now explain the use of the two pins you see over the not-driven axle - these are sliding to lock the battery/hub in place. Circuit Cubes motor and Hub are now installed, and ready for action. Battery/Hub slides inside the chassis. It can be turned on removing the Hub, or using a Lego stick / bar. The body will be detachable and, based on the parts I already have , could be YELLOW instead of blue. I was thinking also to red, to honour the 7720, but I'm short of liftarms. I'll make some lists on Bricklink, just to have an idea of the price. Yellow seems interesting for such kind of locomotive - a modern repainting of an old machine to be used as a workhorse. Ciao! Davide I can say already...I'll completely skip that detail Just and idea for your E69: maybe thinking to a 7-wide with a 6-wide hood? the bigger the scale, the less the gap (theorically)
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Go on! Join the contest - it's my first time and it's positively challenging!
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Go on - let's see what comes out!!! It's a pretty complicated beast! What big wheels are you going to use? 7750?
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Thanks!!! It's not so difficult, mainly a matter of exercise! Just pick a prototype, try to keep the overall shape, find the main details and try to understand how to reproduce them with parts and colors of the time. In some cases I go beyond the 4,5v and 12v style, not including the big doors for example, and in some cases using SNOT tecniques - applying the rule "piece was existing at the time and I can use it as I like". I'm more restrictive on color palette,and this is blocking a lot of nice prototypes to be drawn and built (e.g. green wagons). Basically for Gray Era trains from the 80s you've to downgrade your mind to 8-bit! My brain never upgraded, though. **** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** 64k RAM SYSTEM 38911 BYTES FREE READY.
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Wooow! This is great, and could easily participate to Octrainber 2021! Piko offered also another locomotive, today sold as "Diesellok" - item number 57013. Same chassis, different body...and a body that strangely resembles the Hustler's one. I find too many similarities to be simple coincidences: the split front grille,the two small windows over the hood,the two vertical windows aside the hood and the double windows on the cabin's side. It seems pretty the same prototype. These locomotives are pretty fast and silent too. Thanks Ivan for this good information!
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Here I am - I had to save pictures in Flickr This is my PIKO 57014 - H0 scale locomotive bought during the first year of Lockdown. It is the current version of the original Spielzeug. Quite an "historical model" from Piko. On both axles there's a big drum, which is connected to the double-shaft 12v motor using two twisted rubber bands. The original model worked in the same way back in the 60s. This band-driven kind of transmission is the reason why I'm building with Technic parts. It reminded me the first experiments I made when my parents bought me the Lego 870 4,5v Technic motor But my "Rangierlok" has only one driven axle respect to the H0 model. The presence of the battery/bluetooth Circuit Cubes Hub and the single-shafted CC motor leaves no space for a 4wd transmission .
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Fast update! Chassis has been built in real bricks (or liftarms, or parts, or...well it's made of Lego) but still some parts are missing in correct color (I have to search for them in my boxes). In the meantime I prepared some renders: This locomotive has not a great project beyond - it's more a trial and error - built in the old way, with bricks-in-a-box method. The chassis has been mocked-up, drawn, built, modified and then redrawn (nothing new, I'd say) some times . But I was lucky and it seems quite solid. So I consolidated the renderings to give a more "ppppppppppppprofessional" look at the whole exercise. Wheels are missing, but there's one specific reason for it - before, we need to take a look at the prototype to understand the really original way (for a train model) to transmit the power to the axles. Coming back soon!
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Very 7810-ish, together with BR89!!!
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The Great Pumpkin - fuel tank & loading facility
Paperinik77pk replied to Feuer Zug's topic in LEGO Train Tech
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7720 --> E69 "Diesel" or a generic locomotive with simmetric hoods, 7760 -->V60 , 7740 --> BR103, 7735 --> Haenschel DHG500...it's a long story Indeed , @JopieK is right - they got some bits here and some bits there, trying to replicate the overall shape of a German locomotive. In the list of possible DB locomotives, looking at the overall shape, the BR80 is the most similar to 7730 (inverse thinking ). German steam locomotives were built with a "family feeling" (scheme colors, cabins...in case of the unified locomotives, also boilers, pistons and so on), and in some cases, different groups ("Baureihe") can be easily confused (and this is good when you need to simplify a shape using pretty standard bricks) In building 12v trains (speaking of gray era) I always felt Lego had: the need to reproduce something realistic (inspired by real models) the need to keep the "play with me" feature like doors, opening roofs and the additional things like little cars, motorbikes, tractors...) the willing to have something cool like working headlights, rods (look at the catalogs, where headlights effect is amplified) the mandatory request from business to use the most standard parts possible and to standardize models (baseplates, wheels) ...and this leads to have big compromises between the real prototype and the final product. So the only thing remaining is the "at first glance" effect and kids "wow" factor (of the 80s)
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Thanks sir, the reason of the diesel version is somehow related to another E69-like locomotive made by Lego, which is the 7720. The "Spielzeug" will have a detachable roof, so I think I could add also an optional pantograph. Good luck with that fantastic Trackmobile!!! Time for an update on the design: These are the parts needed to build the "Spielzeug Lokomotive" chassis so far. Circuit Cubes motor (yes, only one) and bluetooth Hub have been designed with plates and bricks, just for reference, but I did not insert them in this render. If I will need to change the parts list - I'll update automatically the picture. Price for chassis (calculated by Stud.io) is 17.65 Euros. I think with used parts the price could be easily reduced. Some details: The triangular liftarms work fine as fake suspensions and for wheels support. Buffers are more Lego - styled The locomotive has only one motor, therefore the Circuit Cubes hub has two free slots - let's see if I can add something else. Traction will be only on one axle, therefore the locomotive is 2WD. That's all for the moment - time to test the chassis! Ciao! Davide
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I sometimes used inox bolts and nuts , some of them can really fit in a small space and give a decent amount of extra weight. I once used 2x1x2 panels to replicate the same shape of the 12v train weights (6x2x2). You can fit some nuts between the panels. The good thing is that you can make these "weights" longer, larger...or even smaller. A small plastic bag could help to keep the nuts in place.
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Very nice building!!! And the conveyor belt is really a nice addition!
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