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This confirms that scum get blown up and townies get turned into stumps. That means that we should look at those who were hesitant/unwilling to vote for Alastair and Hazel.

I feel iffy about this lynch. On the one hand, Berty has been massively scummy this entire time. On the other, he did claim miller, a claim I'm inclined to believe. In the end, behavior wins out, I think. He's constantly contradicted himself, fished, and was the one who brought me the "Barry is a neutral bomb" thing when it's really looking like Barry's scum now. Vote: Berty Birch (Dragonfire)

I don't like how Berty's preparing for his affiliation to be undiscernible...

This is a really good point, and it makes me think Barry was scum and the vig killed him or something...

I've been really iffy about you this entire time, but something about this post really pings me. Anyone else here with me? Also, yeah, Waldorf is correct - it's time to bash some Nash.

I can't believe this game has turned into codebreakers.

Just a heads up - I'm out of town all this weekend. I'll try to check in where possible.

Who else is down for a Maggie lynch?

William and Simon - cut it out. I really think you are both Oaks, and this is doing nothing but fueling the Maple fire. We can't let that happen anymore. This is completely ridiculous. I know, this is why this weirded me out... Well, to be fair, if you were a neutral survivor who blew people up or... whatever would you really claim that role??? It's too risky to janitor someone you don't know will die... There's no way "Alignment Unknown" means Neutral. That's completely unfair. Nay. I think you guys should deal with the rest of the claims. Clem was pretty townie in the thread, so I had codes with him (as opposed to with the rest of you scummy stumps ), and it seems like a lot of people share my sentiments. Get everything straightened out and then we can do it. Be patient.

Stumps: I'd like you guys to look specifically at the claims of Sue, Nash, and Maggie today. I'm really feeling at least 2/3 of them being scum. Clem: I'm 47E I don't have codes with the other two.

This is what I'm wondering. I was told he would act like a bomb - kill his attacker. Maybe he was hit by the vig who was protected or something? Because it doesn't look like anyone killed him. It looks kind of like he killed himself. He might have been some stupid survivor role who had to live to Day 4, and made up the nightkill/bomb story to steer people clear of him... Then again, the construction guy throwing the dynamite at him suggests that that was an actual night action... I hate this.

I'm not sure if Barry was janitored. I received info last night that he claimed to be the neutral bomb... who had to live to Day Four. And upon that time, was able to kill one person. He supposedly was supposed to explode when attacked... but he seemed to jump the gun. This info was given to me by Berty, who claims that William also had a deal with Barry - Barry would use his one kill (that he supposedly doesn't have now?? I'm very confused) against Simon. What does everyone think of this? I swear, I'm not making it up. I'm not sure if I believe it, though. To be fair, however, it isn't like Barry was very townie. Why would the Maples kill him??

It isn't pro-town. Scrutinize someone you'll get something from instead. No, it wouldn't. Who would come out claiming to be cleared on Day 2 as scum? That'd be just asking to get lynched immediately. It's time for you and your friends to put aside conservative play in return for logical play. Would I play this way as scum - a way that puts me out in the front whilst claiming that a cop has confirmed me? Probably not. And then for Foog's terrible "Alastair was the cop" idea - start at least trying to employ Occam's Razor. Use your heads. I haven't anyone to follow me blindly. I've asked for claims as a confirmed townie, yeah. That's so unlike anything that's ever been done in these games. I'm such an aggressive, nasty trailblazer. I'm starting to think you're just jealous because the cop confirmed me and not you. Don't try to strawman me, because I'll catch onto it. My posts to you and the rest of the others amount to a call to employ some real logic instead of paranoia. This is not the same thing as you're claiming in any way, shape, or form.

Not worth the risk.

Awesome, thanks. Finally we can stop outing vanillas and start lynching scum now!

I've considered this, and while it's a good idea, it's just against the spirit of the game, imo. Talk to the Elder, maybe. If it would work, that'd be good. Exactly. We're all friends here. I don't know why some people find it impossible to let things go and recognize when they're beating a dead horse.

Because it's a stupid system. Even Catalina thought so. I'm not supposed to be 100% on whether you're town or scum - because I'm town, and don't know everything. Unlike you, who clearly knows everything. That's extremely townie. If "playing with the town" means handing the wheel to these stumps, I would rather not play with the town. I would rather lynch scum. You can be with me and we can lynch scum together, or we can win despite your resistance. Your choice. You could also say that I'm the godfather. The cop is naive. Random. Insane. I was tailored. But when someone comes up town to investigation, we don't focus on those things, do we? Because the most likely instance is probably the right one. What's most likely here? That Simon and I are town. However, you are focusing on the unlikely. Either you're scum trying to keep two confirmed players who mean business from rolling over your team or you just have a personal vendetta against us.

Look, you and your scum buddies are a little too eager to know what happened. By trying to classify it as one way or another, you are inadvertently giving scum information. The bottom line is that Simon and I are both confirmed town, and you should trust and respect that. This is just ridiculous. Is it possible? Yes, sure, but there's only a 1/25 chance of it being possible, along with the fact that he put up almost no fight at the end, and didn't claim. If you think that's a possibility worth seriously considering, you're on drugs. Your complete refusal to accept Occam's Razor is indicative of you being scum. The bottom line is that Simon and I are confirmed town and about to steamroll you and the rest of your scummy pals right out of town.

I had every reason to believe he was town. I would not have put you in jeopardy otherwise. You're worrying about this way too much. I'm the kind of guy who you don't let house-sit. You're way too curious about this. Want to know what roles you need to kill, scummy? Your fishing won't fool me, bud. Good of you to tell us that you like to vote for people you don't think are scum. It's too late for poking votes, buddy. Vote: Larry Larch (TheLazyChicken) You're long overdue. I do not trust any one of the stumps to competently lynch scum. Plus, there's no way for me to claim to you. I don't have codes with a single dead person, and quite frankly, the code system, as I suspected, is complete trash that did not and will not ever work. Lauren outing a bunch of vanillas illustrates this.

Simon was verified as an Oak by the investigator, same as me. "He was verified as town, so he must be scum" I'd like to propose that all stumps just stay dead.

Fishing for how I'm confirmed??? That's pretty scummy... I'd suggest maybe reading the thread.

I don't think I had codes with any dead trees. Catalina, did you and I have codes at the end there? I think we spent some time making fun of codes, but none actually doing any. If the stumps can communicate via PM, they should all be in a big PM conversation that they invite people to as they die. That's how a real town bloc will be formed.

So, Catarina came to me asking me a lot of fishy questions about how I was cleared, and if I knew the identity of who cleared me... I was unconvinced on her before, but it's starting to look like she's really scum. Vote: Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1)