Quisoves Pugnat
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You say uglier, I say longer. Though I understand why it wouldn't be to everyone's tastes.
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Which plenty of LEGO fans are, surely? That said, I don't mind the new pieces, anymore than I mind this piece. On its own it's limited, but in tandem with other pieces, it's lovely.
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These are definitely quite different from anything we've seen before. If anything, they seem more at home with early constraction than anything this side of 2003, which I suspect is what the designers were aiming for. I eagerly await clearer pictures, but on the evidence of these, they seem quite promising.
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Interesting... Thanks for the image, (provided it's genuine)! Ekimu most definitely has a Gatling-Gun hammer. It looks like we're getting a new bone-piece. I'll wait for a better view to pass judgement on Skull Grinder.
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Not bad! Onua is wonderfully poseable, isn't he?
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Thanks! The only other Protector I can see whose comic is blatantly copied from his box-art is the PoI, and it, like the PoF's comic, has its own identity, or so it seems to me. Part of the difference might be the setting. The Dum!Dum! Protectors are fighting oncoming skull spiders. The Post-Apoc Lewa and PoJ seem to be jumping on a pair of grazing skull spiders. The former looks natural, the others seem cut-and-pasted.
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I'm not denying that the story has its decidedly darker elements, and I certainly wasn't expecting "sunshine and rainbows." I don't think anyone was. But there is a difference between, for want of a better term, "Voodoo-Dark," like 2001's portrayal of Makuta, and Grimdark, like the Piraka. The former draws its menace from being primeval and alien, the latter from being thuggish, cruel, and callous. Post-apocalyptic worlds tend to go for Grimdark, and so the connotations of such a style are inevitable. Of course, Okoto as we've seen it has suffered from a cataclysm , but I wouldn't qualify it as "post-apocalyptic." The island's society has gone backwards, but it still is an ordered, functioning society. Unfortunately, only the PoF links work, but on the basis of those photos, I should say there is a difference between the similarities there and the ones I mentioned. The Fire Protector picture, though obviously based on his box art, doesn't immediately strike me as a copy. It has its own, distinct identity. The panel with Lewa and the PoJ, while not identical to their box-art, instantly strikes me as a drawing of them. Of course, that might just be me, but here are the pictures for comparison. Comic. Box art.
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For clarification's sake, could you give an example? Are there any instances in which both characters are portrayed in their product poses? I don't recall seeing either, but they could easily have escaped my notice. Believe me, I have no problem with these comics, objectively, it's just that I don't think they fit the new BIONICLE. They have a post-apocalyptic vibe that doesn't really suit the tropical, tribal style of 2015. Imagine the 2001 characters portrayed in that style. It just doesn't mesh, for me. Furthermore, LEGO has been openly trying to evoke the early years of BIONICLE and shying away from the grittier feel of the latter years, which some fans (of whose number I do not count myself) found so unappealing. Promoting the line with these comics seems counterproductive.
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I just noticed that the second panel of the Jungle comic depicts both heroes in their box-art poses. Yet more evidence that these are preliminary works. Ah, so LEGO is giving these out to dealers to promote the line. Cautious budget or no, this seems an odd way of marketing. Aside from obvious the lack of polish in these comics, they simply lack the charm of the other art-style, and risk turning potential customers off, in my opinion.
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Fair point. I was basing my hypothesis on the lack of a hammer at Toy Fair. I find it odd that Ekimu would be displayed without his weapon and that a character described as "The Mask Maker" would not have a hammer. Hmmm... More Tarduk Lewa. I wonder how many comics in this style exist. @Leewan For those of us not versed in French, how did you come by those comics?
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Fair enough. That said, I do imagine that an Ekimu set would contain a hammer of some sort, given its association with his profession.
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I find it odd that there would be two characters called "The Mask Maker," each one wearing a Protector mask, in the same year.
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Perhaps the lack of a visible hammer on the Mask Maker is due to a transforming weapon, like the Toa's? After all, "the Legend" portrayed Ekimu's tool as using dual Gatling-Gun pieces, and a weapon that fires from two opposite sides simultaneously would be terribly impractical, even as toy. I can't imagine it being complex enough allow for a choice of barrel to fire from. But if the hammer can be made into two guns, perhaps mounted on Ekimu's shoulders via the two stick pieces, it all makes sense.
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Yay! That first one sounds like Lord of the Skull Spiders, from the current wave. The other ,if memory serves me correctly, matches the leaked description of the Summer villain "Skull Grinder" Thanks for the info! I agree that CCBS requires Technic to work, but I wouldn't count that as a bad thing. There are many wonderful things in life that have to work in tandem with something else. Butter; the Bass voice, much of the time; Motorcycle sidecars; etc. The wonderful thing about the new BIONICLE sets is that they embrace Technic. I could keep this debate up perpetually, but I get the impression that you have somewhat visceral feelings towards CCBS, and that nothing I say will change your mind. We're starting to go in circles, IMHO. Mind, I understand where you're coming from. While I've never disliked CCBS inherently, I wasn't overly fond of its implementation prior to the new BIONICLE sets. But I do urge you to buy one of them, preferably Onua, Gali, the POE, or the POS. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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"Meters" was an absent-minded mistake on my part. =P I meant "module", or whatever it is the M stands for in pieces like this one. It's not a mace, though. It's an admittedly odd drill. It just happens to use the half-mace piece. http://www.lego.com/...8770dd75febabd# Leonardo Da Vinci's titular Mona Lisa has similar proportions to Mary in his Virgin of the Rocks. Does that make them copies of one another? All humanoid figures, built using the same system, within the space of a few years, are going to have similarities. Unless, that is, you go with BIONICLE's pre-2007 of designing a new bunch of parts for each wave of sets. It does add variety, but it's hardly the most practical or creative solution. In the case of Tahu and Furno, the similarity is down to the use of this piece as leg armor. The rest of the legs, while similar, are not even identical. Besides, is there anything wrong with LEGO reusing an armoring method that has only been done once before? If the CCBS sets all used the same build, with new pieces simply filling in for old, that would be one thing. But seeing as new pieces like the gearbox or this actually allow for different builds (ala Onua,) I think new pieces are a boon. You seem to be suggesting that the use of new pieces for new set designs shows that CCBS is at its breaking point, whilst also arguing that the re-use of pieces signifies the same thing. It can't be both. Either the system can't support a sufficient amount of substanitally different new pieces, and is therefore stifled and reusing old ones with diminishing returns, or it is so self-sufficient that it oughtn't to be introducing new elements, since they are superfluous. Or perhaps neither is the case, and it needs to, and can, keep itself fresh by adding new parts (while not being totally dependent on them), like LEGO System. The Protectors are arguably something of a strawman, given their small size. They can't have the same variety as larger sets like the Toa. And while I agree that the Protectors of Ice, Water, Jungle, and Stone share the same basic build, I think that they amply demonstrate that even stylistic differences, such as different shells, can give such builds distinct personalities. And of course, the Protectors of Earth and Fire show that even small sets need not share the same frame. Despite them sharing the same mask-piece, I think that the Protectors have oodles of more individuality than most of their Gen1 counterparts. I've shown above current sets that have more than superficial variety, but I'm puzzled as to why you level such an accusation at CCBS and the Inika-build specifically, as if the pre-2007 sets were not merely clones of each other whose differences from previous waves were acheived almost entirely by new pieces.
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In so much as they share the same chestplate-piece. That is, as far as I can tell, the only notable similarity (albeit a notable one) in their main bodies. Gorzan uses this piece for armoring the rest of his torso. Onua uses this. Furthermore, their skeletons are considerably different. Observe: For one, Onua has the gearbox-centered construct on his back, which also supports his arms, unlike Gorzan's shoulder-supported arms. Onua's legs are 2 meters taller than Gorzan's, and his shoulders are markedly wider. Onua's arms are as long as his legs, no more, no less, whereas Gorzan's arms are three meters longer than his legs. Gorzan's main body piece is two meters taller than Onua's, making them the same height, but for Onua's shoulders. Speaking of which, those are definitely wider than Gorzan's. So, in addition to the considerably different proportions, it is impossible for both builds to be as wide as they are tall, since one is wider, but both are the same height. Onua has a large warhammer, not a mace. Most humanoid chests (the original Pohatu's being a notable exception =P) have a way of doing that. In so much as they both have large claws. But one of these is not much like one of these It seems a bit like you're switching the goal-posts here. You stated Now you seem to say that the similarity is merely stylistic. That said, any uniform building system is bound to have stylistic similarities, witness most LEGO System sets made within at least five years of each other. The fact is, Onua is not a clone of Gorzan, and substantially, he is different. As demonstrated previously, the only specific attribute they share is the chest piece. Everything else is different.
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I disagree.
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Really? The only thing they have in common is the chest-piece. Just about everything else is different. Gorzan looks like a standard humanoid with Gorilla-features grafted on. Onua looks like a biomechanical earth golem.
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Battle for the Gold Mask Semi-finalists and Winner
Quisoves Pugnat replied to VBBN's topic in LEGO Action Figures
DeeVee more or less stated my opinions on the matter. But to elaborate, I feel that the judges went with peripheral attributes when selecting most of the first-place (and some of the second and third-place) winners. Either they chose a model with a striking silhouette, as with Akutahn or Diatan, or one with a striking head-piece, as in Terror-Bite or Dark Fang, or both, like in Hysleria. The only one of the first-place entries that I felt worthy was Makuta Nakken. Each other one was bettered by at least one of its fellow-site-winners, not to mention various worthy entries that never won at all (Gub-Gub comes to mind.) But not to be churlish, I nonetheless offer my hearty congratulations to Roa McToa. Whatever my thoughts on her entry, she worked hard, and her labor was rewarded. Cheers! -
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I suspect that the problem that most folks have with the 2.0 foot is how (no pun intended) pedestrian it is. Unlike the Mata foot, which, to me, fits just as comfortably on a humble villager as a mighty warrior, the 2.0 foot is too large and too oblong to suit most Matoran-sized models, whilst seeming a bit too casual for a Toa-type hero (a bit like Beowulf wearing sneakers.) That's not to say I find it a worthless piece. I think it can work well on a Toa, but the rest of the models requires a certain something (it's hard to say what) to compliment it.
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Perhaps he'll look something like a tan-orange bear in a funny hat and tie. =P
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No doubt they shall include baby Protectors for the Skull-chappies to fight.
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Minime.
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Danke! Simply changing the two instances of the set number to one of the other leaked ones gets the site to cough up the other names. Interestingly, "Skull Slicer," "Skull Scorpio," and "Skull Grinder" are used.