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I love the addition of all the fine details and SNOT work amazing job!
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
It could be clearance for the 12z gear located below for the steering. but most likely it's just a open space with no purpose, It could be fixed with a 1 stud long technic beam, but I don't think those come in any color other than dark bluish gray. -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
Looks good so far, maybe more information can be obtained from the video, I found it helpful to put the video in full screen and play it at .25% of the speed, then I took screenshots of areas of interest. I Think If you messed around with the placement of the center "shifter" that could hint to how it's connected to the rear transmission. -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
I doubt that the steering linkages are connected to the rear wheel steering, as they have a 90 offset. My best guess if it has rear wheel steering would be something to do with the center driving ring catch. As I see no way that the cv joints can be linked to the steering in the front steering collumn. The driving ring catch is in line with the front shaft. -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
Maybe building a little more of the suspension would help. It would be cool to get both parts of this model assembled together once they are complete. -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
maybe this part is used for the selector mechanism for the paddles. -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
It could be so expensive because of all the pannels. -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
If it was RC, then you could add on another 50-100 Euros for it. I think Lego is doing the right thing, this model is meant to be a static display model. I know that everyone wishes that maybe Lego would produce high powered RC equipment, but it's very unlikely to happen for a long time, and It would take several of the old 9V RC motors to power this. Where in the rear? next to the engine ?As those coud also be a part of the exhaust system too, looking at the cad file, that may hold true. -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
I think it's just a combination of parts used for the exhaust system, I also noticed what appears to be like ribbed hose connecting to it, after some slight enhancement's it's somewhat visible from the screenshots, and I also believe this part to be the "motor" that everyone is speculating about. Screen Shot 2016-01-29 at 9.06.24 AM by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
I don't think there are any new PF parts. If you slow the video of it down to .25% you will see the gray blocks on the sides, but there is also metalic gray tubing next to it. My guess is that it has to be a part of the exhaust system, maybe a muffler, and the new PF 2.0 is white. -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
Ok makes sense, It's hard to tell, as the axle is dark gray, Thanks, I guess I now know how the steering wheel meshes with the rest of the steering mechanism. It's so new that I was unaware of it, and it isn't in the Ldraw part library either. I guess the steering is basically figured out then. Also there's already 78 parts here. Screen Shot 2016-01-28 at 11.23.23 PM by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
My last post on this for tonight, but I noticed something interesting when adding some hidden parts only shown for a couple seconds on the video. I am uncertain if the orange connector should be a #1 or #2. If it was a #2 the steering wheel wouldn't be able to function because of the axle jointer connecting to the side of it. Also because of clearance issues, and no noticeable bevel gears, I think It could be an option for the steering to either have further reduction next to the paddle shifting mechanism, or maybe use a worm gear, though that seems unlikely, as a steering wheel usually only turns around 1-2 times before reaching the steering lock. Another option would be that the series of gears seen in the center of the dash for steering. I noticed the yellow axle joiner is at an angle, so it can't be in a fixed position, I think this is connected to the tan single bevel gear in the center of the dash.The main issue that I see with this setup is that there is no space to fit even a 8z gear with the 4l axle with stop to connect to something to the steering wheel. Though in some of the still shots the steering wheel is slightly turned. Could the steering wheel be non-functioning? It seems highly unlikely, unless lego made a new 3 long axle with a stop?( Then it would work perfectly for supporting 2 12z black double bevel gears) That's the only way I can see taking a output off of the steering wheel and connecting it to the bevel gears. I don't think there's a issue with the spacing of my parts based off of the photos below, but there has to be a means of operating the steering wheel. I am unsure of the placement of the towballs for the rubber bands, it appears in the video that they are spaced a stud closer to the edge of the frame. It also seems to be lego color coded the 5 long axle to be yellow, as I redesigned behind the steering column, after seeing it from a different perspective in the video. I think I may have hit the limit to what there is from the exterior of the paddle mechanism from the limited sources of media so far. It seems odd that there is so little on this, shouldn't have there been more people who have taken photographs of this? Screen Shot 2016-01-28 at 9.01.43 PM by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
what if it isn't a direct mesh with gears, maybe another ratchet mechanism or have beams mounted on an axle and have them be rotated to shift the shaft 90°. So not a continuous meshing of gears, rather a single cam that rotates the shaft, as it would snap into place with the pawls and the engagement of the driving rings. -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
Thats my thought too, but I don't think the two have a linkage between them It doesn't appear that there is any way for a connection to the "shifter" in the center of the car, I think It would be manual, as there is only 4 positions for the transmission to be in with the knob gears. Maybe a High and low range for the transmission? -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
I built up some more of the exterior of it, It didn't help too much, but I'm still not sure yet on the mechanism that toggles the knob gears, it could be a new 4 long beam with holes, but it's hard to tell without physical bricks on hand. It could be a lever or a linkage that meshes with a cam to advance the knob gears. I did mess around with how the knob gears could mesh with the CV joints, here's an attempt at that, It's hard to tell without a photo of the underside or a photo of the top of the model( I think this is incorrect, as of further looking at the photos there isn't a second set of knob gears visible.). The problem I am running into is the issue with the one way pawls that the driving ring catches are used for, I need to think more about how both knob gears can rotate the same direction, but cause the output shaft to turn a different direction, or maybe they both turn it the same direction? It also looks very tight for someone to fit their fingers between the massive steering column mount and the paddles. Transparent parts were used for unknown beam lengths. Screen Shot 2016-01-28 at 4.11.58 PM by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr Screen Shot 2016-01-28 at 4.12.06 PM by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
Yeah it appears to be like that, unless there's something in between the two sets of driving rings. Or maybe the gear shifter in the center has 2 ratios that provide power through the gear box, and a neutral speed too? -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
There's a 3 stud long axle between the CV joints. Maybe the gears mesh in the center and provide power forwards to the shifter ? -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
I think It's possible to see one of the newer technic driving rings and the other orange liftarm used to actuate the gearbox. Screen Shot 2016-01-28 at 3.08.13 PM by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
At 0:47 in the other CV joint is visable in the video, confirming that it's connected to the gearbox and paddle shifters. -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
That's what I thought, It seems to be very unlikely Lego would bring back that part. I fixed the model, there was a issue with the spacing of the gears, I guess that opens up the options of 2x4 liftarms. http://www.bricksafe... mechanism3.ldr Screen Shot 2016-01-28 at 1.25.43 PM by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
A quarter of a turn (90°) , thus advance the position of the driving ring catches and change the gear. -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
Yup I know that's the problem, along with the other 5l liftarm, maybe there isn't a direct coupling between the two, Or if they both rotated the same direction, but changed direction of the CV joint -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
There's something that looks like a bracket one stud below it, look where the CV joint meshes and on the side next to the door mechanism. The bracket on my model is incorrect then It should be lowered by a stud.Here's a thought about how the mechanism should operate, though I don't know yet how the 5l beam gets moved out of position with the opposite side advancing, then the advancing side paddle has to have the other 5l beam shift out and return to the start position. Screen Shot 2016-01-28 at 12.57.27 PM by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
They have to be linked together and rotate in the same direction ( I Think). Because one shifter would advance it, and the other one would return it back the opposite direction. I Think I found another interesting piece to the puzzle inside of it. Also I guess the lower bracket disproves the option of it being a Servo motor, as it's in the same position. I am very doubtful this model will have new PF, maybe a M motor and battery box for some functions, but not full RC. yjUBEN8 by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr -
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Tommy Styrvoky replied to Jim's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
Brackets added, I changed the pins in the center of the paddles to a 5l axle with stop, I'm not entirely sure what color that should be, so I left it in tan.Updated file here. http://www.bricksafe.com/files/Tommy_styrvoky/Lego%20Porsche%20paddle%20shifting%20mechanism2.ldr Lego Technic Porsche paddle shifting mechanism by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr