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Most of the parts of the 42113 Osprey are now available on Bricks & Pieces. Sadly, the rotor blades aren't available yet.

Jang has said his thing; het put it better than I could: https://youtu.be/FL-C96iAJ6M?t=956

Apart from all this whining about the set not getting a release, can I whine about its functionality? It seems like the separate nacelles seem really wobbly, as seen in this video at 11:50 https://youtu.be/UFQLVez8m6w?t=711

Tons of arguments that just boil down to "they already went this far, I am really upset they didn't take it just this one step further!" Gotta draw the line somewhere. Personally, I would've drawn it earlier.

Toastie; thanks for the background info, there was a lot of misinformation on it.

Ya gotta draw the line somewhere, I suppose. So far, I don't think Lego messed up this much in a single model.

I think Lego made a bad call from the start developing this model in the first place. I get it, it's got interesting functions. But throwing money at an arms manufacturer to produce a military vehicle (c'mon, those few stickers don't fool anyone) is a bad look.

I have a completely baseless prediction: Lego is going to produce a dedicated part to make 1x1 stud piston engines. Both the cement truck and the volvo hauler have had problems getting their engines to run smoothly, and I think a dedicated part may help a lot. I think they're going to start with an axle part, with maybe a possibility of attaching 1x1 round tiles to get different piston colours. But they also may decide a shorter cam part would be an improvement. Like I said, this isn't based on anything. But their continued use of 1x1 cylinder engines instead of the regular piston engines might merit an investment down the line.

Thank you! This honestly made my day Sorry if my previous post came across as a bit sour- it's just that this colour discussion doesn't bring much new to the table. As for the Sian itself- I'm pleasantly surprised. It's evolutionary rather than revolutionary, but it's a more attractive model than the Chiron. The door and spoiler mechanisms seem solid, and don't require a silly extra "key". Also, I'm very much in favour of all the new parts that have been introduced in Lime. I don't know if it's a side effect of Lego's 18+ branding, but the usage of different colours seem to be reduced a bit from previous models.

Is there a way to automatically hide any posts mentioning the phrase "blue pins"? These people have nothing worthwhile to add to the discussion. Welcome to 2007. Lego is a company with a target audience of laypeople, not experts. If someone who doesn't have your galaxy brain buys a set and gets frustrated, they won't buy another one. Hence blue pins. If this is such a sore point for you, I recommend not giving them your money.

I think the differentials are the key here- you see a lot of them, in red. What they do here, is that they take the left input, and then the right input, and take the average of that. If you would build a system like this with three hammers, it's simple: the left hammer runs on the left input, which is a bit slow. The right hammer runs on the right input, which is just a bit faster than the left input. The middle hammer runs off the differential, and thus has a speed which is exactly the average of the two inputs. Fun thing is; you can stack differentials. So if you want to run the system with five hammers, you already have the speeds of the far left and far right hammers (which are the slow and fast inputs), and you have the middle hammer, which is the average of the two. If you want to figure out the speeds of hammers 2 and 4, you use another differential, which takes the average of the left input and the middle, or the right input and the middle. This system has 9 hammers, so, that's the previously described mechanism taken one step further. (Well, it has 8 hammers- for reasons unknown to me the leftmost hammer was removed...) I hope this all made sense, and that I got the explanation right. aeh5040: It's a great model, and I love the solution you came up with to keep everything running in time.

The Mondrian kids are a tough crowd.

I doubt it will be olive for the simple reason they still have an olive-coloured car on the shelves. (See also the creator car sets modeled on real cars, which have all been given distinct colours)

I think we can all agree that Lego's own 42109 Top Gear Rally thing wasn't really all that. In order to improve it a bit I set out to build a rather popular car with it. Turns out someone beat me to the punch Some trickery was used to create the GIF- the Porsche itself is stationary, while the light moves. Functionally, the model is identical to the 42109, with some added lights. Luckily, performance has been improved by using Imurvai's Brickcontroller app. In a pinch, Lego's own app will work as well if you don't mind about the lights staying off. The dimensions are the based on the 42093 Corvette, so it should work with the 42098 car transporter. Underside with differential. (What, like it's hard?) Also note the extremely tidy cable management Given my typical production speed I should have a video out somewhere around christmas.

Thanks! I don't know about 42099, but Lego's own Control+ app is pretty bad for the 42109; it artificially puts limits on acceleration and power. I recommend trying out brickcontroller2 or another app.

Does anyone know why Lego's control+ app requires location? At least with the top gear car, the damn thing asks for it to be turned on. I can see absolutely no reason for the app to require it. Are they afraid folks are using their set in the wrong place? Which place? (Aside from that, it doesn't seem to accept it even if I turn it on... damn shame.)

So, it took a while, but I finally got the video together: Warning: Dangerously 80s. I've uploaded a Stud.io file to http://www.vayamenda.com , so you can build your own. Without modification you can build it in orange and white, and with some part substitutions Dark Azure and Red are possible as well. (I've edited the first post to include it as well)

Go fly a kite.

Looks really nice, and as far as I can tell the mechanics are solid as well. Would love to see this in action. Really dig the rear light setup, too.

I'm really delighted with this car. It just oozes class and style. The shaping really works. It can't have been easy to put all all the PU components into such a tidy package. At least we don't have to integrate a separate receiver piece anymore. I also like that we both looked at Lego's own Top Gear Rally car and thought to ourselves: "well, this could use some improvement!" amorti: Using Lego's own 42109 app severely limits acceleration, even with a properly built vehicle. A third-party app like Brickcontroller2 is a must if speed is your thing. The PU components themselves still add quite a bit of weight, so building small helps a lot.

Still tinkering with it. The orange one is a bit faster (1:3 speedup from the XL motor) but it relies on a 8z gear, so I don't really trust that...

I was wondering about one of the rules, specifically: Now, this can be interpreted in two ways: 1- Don't make empty topics just to claim an idea 2- Every TC17 topic needs to have work-in-progress pictures to be eligible in the competition. Pretty sure point 1 is true no matter what. But how about point 2? There's a lot of topics popping up with no work in progress pictures, just a finished model.

I'm quite a fan of the scale. I also wonder about attaching just the "Fast and Furious" brand. That's not a car brand. Maybe they're keeping the car brand itself under wraps for now, but I hope they don't go the "Top gear" way and don't rebuild an existing car at all.

Tell me they weren't thinking about F&F when they designed this: And that's something I like. It's loud, it's dumb, it just needs a bit of refinement and functionality. But my dream series would be an entire lineup of Corvette-sized cars, all in screaming colours. But that's not going to happen.

Thank you so much for this work, figuring all this out must have been a ton of work. I'd completely missed the "custom controller" blocks, those seem very interesting.