Alcarin Posted January 26, 2014 In the movies they are not. Who said they are not an army? themselves? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenalfonzo Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) How so laddy? Almost every wood elf (silver Elf from Mirkwood) has a cloak with a cape, it doesent matter if he wears it or not. Those green rangers are from the movie, they have hoods for to look little bit different than the other fig with hair piece. So choose your words more wisely about non-movie figs :) Accept a 5-6 guardsmen there was only non armoured elves / rangers in DOS! Nonsense. Show me the screencap of an elf in a hood from the movie. The movie had bareheaded elfs with hair & ears visible, or armoured, helmeted elves. Non wearing hoods. Don't spout silliness about what they had in their closets back home. Lego made non-movie characters to cheap out on making a new helmet mold, and I'm almost certain there will be no elf helmet for TABA sets. Elrond will certainly be bareheaded. Visible pointy ears make an elf an elf! I give the green hoods to make gondor rangers (they wore green capes & hoods in the book.) Edited January 26, 2014 by greenalfonzo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alcarin Posted January 26, 2014 Nonsense. Show me the screencap of an elf in a hood from the movie. The movie had bareheaded elfs with hair & ears visible, or armoured, helmeted elves. Non wearing hoods. Don't spout silliness about what they had in their closets back home. Lego made non-movie characters to cheap out on making a new helmet mold, and I'm almost certain there will be no elf helmet for TABA sets. Elrond will certainly be bareheaded. Exactly... NO ELF wore a hood in Hobbit movie... atleast not on them.... The only Elves I remember wearing a hood were the Elves running away to Valinor from Rivendell and Elrond when he brought Aragon narsil and that was both in LOTR.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deskp Posted January 26, 2014 Who said they are not an army? themselves? They are part of saurons army.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faefrost Posted January 26, 2014 Exactly... NO ELF wore a hood in Hobbit movie... atleast not on them.... The only Elves I remember wearing a hood were the Elves running away to Valinor from Rivendell and Elrond when he brought Aragon narsil and that was both in LOTR.... I thought some of the Archers that showed up at Helms Deep with Haldir were both hooded and helmed. Hoods drawn up over helms. Now I'll have to go back and look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blazej_Holen Posted January 26, 2014 Nonsense. Show me the screencap of an elf in a hood from the movie. The movie had bareheaded elfs with hair & ears visible, or armoured, helmeted elves. Non wearing hoods. Don't spout silliness about what they had in their closets back home. Lego made non-movie characters to cheap out on making a new helmet mold, and I'm almost certain there will be no elf helmet for TABA sets. Elrond will certainly be bareheaded. Visible pointy ears make an elf an elf! I give the green hoods to make gondor rangers (they wore green capes & hoods in the book.) Firstly calm down boy, and second: there were two groups of elves: one from Tauriels group who wears grean cloaks and the other one on Water gate. I didnt spot any army of armoured elves, if u do, u probably watched a different movie than I did. P.S. use your hoods for whatever you want to, thats not my bussines :) Sauron has an army ade of Gundabad orc and wargs. That counts as two different armies. Sauron himself has nothing. Exactly... NO ELF wore a hood in Hobbit movie... atleast not on them.... The only Elves I remember wearing a hood were the Elves running away to Valinor from Rivendell and Elrond when he brought Aragon narsil and that was both in LOTR.... Exactly not on them. But wood elf archer with helmet? You never shoot from bow did you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infernum Posted January 26, 2014 $60 for Bo5A? . I was hoping it'd be another $30 army builder... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alcarin Posted January 26, 2014 I thought some of the Archers that showed up at Helms Deep with Haldir were both hooded and helmed. Hoods drawn up over helms. Now I'll have to go back and look. When they fought they all only wore helmets.... Never hoods :) And that was again different movie really... I am set to see an Elf fighting with his hood on like it shows on a LEGO set.... :) not a movie character those are..... just like the set is not from a movie :) They are part of saurons army.. We can argue that elves men and dwarves were 1 army when they fought Saurons army.....They used synergy to defeat them like 1 army would.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blazej_Holen Posted January 26, 2014 When they fought they all only wore helmets.... Never hoods :) And that was again different movie really... I am set to see an Elf fighting with his hood on like it shows on a LEGO set.... :) not a movie character those are..... just like the set is not from a movie :) We can argue that elves men and dwarves were 1 army when they fought Saurons army.....They used synergy to defeat them like 1 army would.... That set supposed to be from the movie, but I guess that those differences are mostly becouse of those changes, and we dont really know what material TLG have for creation fot hat set. And by the way, TLG creates their sets based on PJ movies, PJ movies are based on the book. So the main logic of whole plot is hidden in the books, read them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alcarin Posted January 26, 2014 That set supposed to be from the movie, but I guess that those differences are mostly becouse of those changes, and we dont really know what material TLG have for creation fot hat set. And by the way, TLG creates their sets based on PJ movies, PJ movies are based on the book. So the main logic of whole plot is hidden in the books, read them. I read the books a million times believe me.... Its just funny how some are backing up and saying TLG makes sets (so also figs) based on movie and yet there are things (like an Elf firing their bow with a hood on) that we NEVER saw in any movie(even LOTR).... on the other side you argue that armored elves have to come because based on book they were there as an army.... Kinda illogical dont you think? I wanted an armored Elf myself... but it is ILLOGICAL if you make an Elf ARMY BUILDER and not include 1 in.... why Would they make an armored one for 1 set if they had an amazing opportunity less than a year ago..... Dont you agree? Also Lake Town soldier will have to be some kind of militia in ragged clothes based on PJ Movie anyway.... a farmer kind of boy (fisherman) because Lake Town Guards are not fighting in the Battle they are Police of Lake Town.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blazej_Holen Posted January 26, 2014 I never hear about Lake Town police before :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alcarin Posted January 26, 2014 I never hear about Lake Town police before :) Look on the photos of Lake Town army.... a bunch of ''thugs'' and fishermen given weapons :) lake Town Guards are just like Tower Guards.... They dont really fight... they guard a place :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deskp Posted January 26, 2014 I wanted an armored Elf myself... but it is ILLOGICAL if you make an Elf ARMY BUILDER and not include 1 in.... why Would they make an armored one for 1 set if they had an amazing opportunity less than a year ago..... Dont you agree? Well they made the army builder "based on" (inspired by) DOS, the TABA elves are not anywhere to be seen in DOS They might want to save the figures for the TABA sets, because it's not that many NEW characthers in TABA, just alot of variation of current ones, + the armored soldiers of diffferent kinds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alcarin Posted January 26, 2014 Well they made the army builder "based on" (inspired by) DOS, the TABA elves are not anywhere to be seen in DOS They might want to save the figures for the TABA sets, because it's not that many NEW characthers in TABA, just alot of variation of current ones, + the armored soldiers of diffferent kinds. And which was that Tree fort with Thraunduil fighting inspired from? if the king was in the Army builder fighting Orcs then a Guard from his ''palace'' could escort them without any problems really :) so much for inspirations. As for the second part its possible... But a 60$ set = 6 figs tops I guess.... So if we all expect Bolg and Dain ironfoot that leaves 3-4 figs..... (wasnt Black Gate 60$?) so an Eagle cos i mean they kind Save the Day (together with Beorn but we got him and no Eagles) and that leaves 3 figs.... 1 will defo be an orc (because we cant have 5 good guys fighting Bolg) so that leaves 2 figs.... 1 is likely an armored Dwarf (or not) and thats tops 1 spot left It just makes little sense... but then again LEGO made little sense with LOTR and Hobbit overall so I wont be surprised with their weird decisions! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deskp Posted January 26, 2014 And which was that Tree fort with Thraunduil fighting inspired from? if the king was in the Army builder fighting Orcs then a Guard from his ''palace'' could escort them without any problems really :) so much for inspirations. Inspiration doesen't need to directly come from soemthign specific but the set overall looks like a bad representation of the river gate scene. Well the palace guard would need a new helmet mold, and they proapby didnt have the budget for that or something, and they might want to save the elf-helmet-budget for the soldier wich appears in the most important battle. black gate as model leaves us with 5 minifigures 1 eagle and 1 warg or Beorn. But as you said lego can be weird, they might throw us a bone and include multiple of the soldiers. If a 25$ set can have 6 minifigures and 1 animal why can't a 60$ set have atleast that or more? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alcarin Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Inspiration doesen't need to directly come from soemthign specific but the set overall looks like a bad representation of the river gate scene. Well the palace guard would need a new helmet mold, and they proapby didnt have the budget for that or something, and they might want to save the elf-helmet-budget for the soldier wich appears in the most important battle. black gate as model leaves us with 5 minifigures 1 eagle and 1 warg or Beorn. But as you said lego can be weird, they might throw us a bone and include multiple of the soldiers. If a 25$ set can have 6 minifigures and 1 animal why can't a 60$ set have atleast that or more? When did a 25$ set have 6 figs? 30$ I remember but 25? Or they might be weird and put only 4 figs :) or they might be even WEIRDER and put in Thraunduil representing the ELF ARMY LOL Now that would be funny as hell And no generic Dwarf but only Dain and instead give us another 2 gundabad orcs... id probably pis.s laughing :D Edited January 26, 2014 by Alcarin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deskp Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) When did a 25$ set have 6 figs? 30$ I remember but 25? Or they might be weird and put only 4 figs :) or they might be even WEIRDER and put in Thraunduil representing the ELF ARMY LOL Now that would be funny as hell And no generic Dwarf but only Dain and instead give us another 2 gundabad orcs... id probably pis.s laughing :D Wouldn't put any of that past lego. But I was hoping Another laketown set without smaug would be the only weird part of this wave x] 30/29$ sure, just remembered it was 20-something Edited January 26, 2014 by deskp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legofreak86 Posted January 26, 2014 My Guess is that the erebor set will minifigure wise be Bilbo and the dwarves from DOS's Final sequences. As Smaug is there and people have mentioned the forges being part of the set. Plus on FBTB's post they mention Dain Ironfoot in the BO5A so I doubt he will be in erebor as well. I'm glad of this however as I felt the DOS sets to be lacking any decent main characters other than Gandalf. It looks as if in this wave there are more central characters rather than just elves and a character who was on screen for five minutes. From what I can gather it seems we will be getting: Galadriel, Elrond, Bilbo and The witch king of angmar for sure. I would guess That we will see bard, Bolg, Dain Ironfoot,all the dwarves who went into erebor in DOS some armoured orcs, dwarf soldiers, elf soldiers, men soldiers. Judging by the prospect of all that I'd say this may turn out to be the best wave yet. Also the Dol Guldur part of the film sounds brilliant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deskp Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) My Guess is that the erebor set will minifigure wise be Bilbo and the dwarves from DOS's Final sequences. Nothing more exciting than 9 characters we got before, now in ragged clothing.. smaug is good, but does that that together justify 120$? Edited January 26, 2014 by deskp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azog15 Posted January 26, 2014 I'm good with Dwarves in ragged clothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legofreak86 Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Don't be so quick judge the set before you've seen it. I'm good with that as well. Edited January 26, 2014 by legofreak86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardelon Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) The windlass is the mechanism to,draw back the bow, not the name of the bow itself. You can also find a windlass on a sailboat to raise and lower the sails for larger boats and for the anchor. So it would be like referring to your sails as windlasses. True, but it's not unprecedented to name the whole after a component - a fire engine is much more than the engine. But that's just me nit-picking. I could go with "wind-lance", it's just that as Gryphon Ink mentioned, the word doesnt make any sense in context, unlike windlass. For all we know though, it might just be spelled "wynd-lanse" (Yes, it's bugging me more than it should...) As to the helmet issue discussed here, I assume an elf-helm will be made for the TABA wave. As mentioned, the reason it didn't come in the MEA set was that there were no such soldiers in the movie. I'm more curious whether we will get a new dwarf-helm or orc-helm. And I hope we will finally get Elrond's sword in silver or bley. Not sure what to make of the new set info, I'm a bit disappointed that Lake Town wont be as substantial as previously reported, but oh well. Edited January 26, 2014 by Ardelon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevkipo Posted January 26, 2014 Could we al stop about the Fricking Windlance! Just stop it and talk about the sets! Friggin shees.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deskp Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) True, but it's not unprecedented to name the whole after a component - a fire engine is much more than the engine. But that's just me nit-picking. I could go with "wind-lance", it's just that as Gryphon Ink mentioned, the word doesnt make any sense in context, unlike windlass. For all we know though, it might just be spelled "wynd-lanse" (Yes, it's bugging me more than it should...) As to the helmet issue discussed here, I assume an elf-helm will be made for the TABA wave. As mentioned, the reason it didn't come in the MEA set was that there were no such soldiers in the movie. I'm more curious whether we will get a new dwarf-helm or orc-helm. And I hope we will finally get Elrond's sword in silver or bley. This is ideal for LEGO cause the elves, orcs, and dwarves all wear uniform armor for the most part. Just like the uruk hai, wich means people can buy tonnes of them to make a good right looking army. (if the have the cash) Once you have helmets on everybody it doesent matter much that the face print is the same. Elronds sword? I think if they make a new sword it would be a generic elven sword, not Elrond specific. Lego made a huge mistake making the 2 handed sword that hasnt fit in any lego set yet, and in gold nontheless. Edited January 26, 2014 by deskp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azog15 Posted January 26, 2014 Could we al stop about the Fricking Windlance! Just stop it and talk about the sets! Friggin shees.... Seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
