Mindstorms 51515 vs. EV3? Worth the upgrade?

[DrJB]

I've had (still have) almost every old iteration of Mindstorms, starting with the one developed for MIT 6.270 30+ years ago, and I've also been away for sometime from Lego.

Now I see there is a new contender on the horizon i.e., the 51515. I've read some reviews where some people are happy while others not so. The various complaints stem from:

1. Missing Screen/Display - some were hoping for a color LCD as a natural evolution from EV3

2. New components/connectors - one needs to invest in a whole new 'eco-system'

3. Lack of compatibility with prior versions - this was not the case going from NXT to EV3

I'm looking for a more 'complete' assessment (without much researching/reading). Can someone point to a useful link?

I'm contemplating getting a 51515, but rather hesitant due to the above points.

Thank You.

Edited November 13, 2022 by DrJB

[Lok24]

The 51515 has end of life 2022, and there ist no "Mindstroms" any more.

Have a look at "Spike Prime"

 

[DrJB]

Thank you ... the end of an era then...

The contents/colors suggest a mix of system+technic+friends ... are we moving towards an all-inclusive (gender) STEAM environment?

It might be safest to crawl back into my cave and pull out my 2954 ... Yes, I do have a USB to Serial adapter and few micro-motors :)

 

 

[msk6003]

Spike <<<<<< EV3

RI >= EV3

I feeling like this.

[DrJB]

If I combine the two expressions then, you're saying:

RI >= EV3 >>>>> Spike

Translation:

1. Stay away from Spike (why the downgrade?)

2. RI slight improvement over EV3

[msk6003]

31 minutes ago, DrJB said:

If I combine the two expressions then, you're saying:

RI >= EV3 >>>>> Spike

Translation:

1. Stay away from Spike (why the downgrade?)

2. RI slight improvement over EV3

Exactly.

P.S : I'm working on S.korea's no.1 lego education bender(which also make lot of thing with famous company)

Why spike is bad?

On 8/21/2022 at 12:27 AM, msk6003 said:

F this. RI is MUCH better than spike. RI has both virtual and real controller support, all PU/C+ element support and hub-to-hub communication but now it has machine learning support while spike DON'T HAVE NOTHING BUT 3x3 LIGHT METRIX.

Edited November 12, 2022 by msk6003

[Lok24]

But this is software only?

As far as I know you can use the RI software o n the SPIKE hub as well?

[ninoguba]

1 hour ago, Lok24 said:

But this is software only?

As far as I know you can use the RI software o n the SPIKE hub as well?

RI software has end of life 2024.  No one can confirm yet if the unique features in RI will be ported over to Spike.  
 

LEGO Education is announcing something new - Spike 3 - and I don’t know yet what that announcement entails.

[Lok24]

So where is the problem today?

 

[Lira_Bricks]

20 hours ago, DrJB said:

Thank you ... the end of an era then...

The contents/colors suggest a mix of system+technic+friends ... are we moving towards an all-inclusive (gender) STEAM environment?

What do you mean with the last part? I see no studs and no mini dolls.

[DrJB]

10 hours ago, Lira_Bricks said:

What do you mean with the last part? I see no studs and no mini dolls.

lol ... I'm talking about the colors ... magenta/azure/...  :)

Psst ... a large number of men are color blind and can't distinguish shades of gray/pink/lavender/turquoise/... etc

Edited November 13, 2022 by DrJB