Bricks and Minifigs Situation...

[danth]

It's fascinating to see how, as more and more youtubers & media outlets finally get around to covering this, the more they have to "one up" everyone else and present a unique take, because otherwise they have nothing new to offer.

Techdirt's "angle" was "Everyone should have talked to a lawyer", even though they go on to explain that Bryan did talk to lawyers and it's not really worth it to hire lawyers to sue over this amount of money. 

Legal Eagle's angle was "Everyone is wrong about this story" even though their video didn't really make a convincing or coherent argument to that effect. 

And now Coffeezilla's angle was "I found the missing Lego" even though he totally didn't, and he actually raised more questions than answers. He even ends the video with a clip of Reckless Ben saying "you solved it!" but like, no he didn't, where are the Legos?

[Shiva]

On 5/29/2026 at 10:10 PM, Darth_Bane13 said:

In case you somehow haven't seen it yet, Bricks and Minifigs stole $200,000 worth of Lego sets from an old man. 

 

Reckless Ben is not an angel.

And he might very well have complicated and worsened things.

Aaaaaand the "lovely" mobs this attracts.

Is Reckless Ben trying to be a Candace Owens? 

https://geeksandgamers.com/legal-mindset-exposes-reckless-bens-mistakes-vs-bricks-minifigs-in-lego-theft-case/

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Legal Mindset Exposes Reckless Ben’s Mistakes vs Bricks & Minifigs in Lego Theft Case

O right, the video

 

[Black Falcon]

10 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

Yes, I noticed that as well. And I love it! Even the police is using the term. So it is official. Take that LEGO company! I love it because LEGO wants to dictate people how to speak and they would very much like to ban a term that so many people use when speaking about building blocks.

Where did they try to dictate how people speak please? I´ve seen claims like this before, but from what I have seen (or better read) it is more a discussion within the community. At least I myself have not read a single post, message or whatever where they tried to tell me how I have to speak. ;)

Aside from that, the video is from the US and from my personal impression from this forum but also other places online, the added S seems to be more common in the US than it is in Europe. To me it still sounds awefull and doesn´t make sense at all, because if I play with Lego, it has always been with several bricks, so obviously it doesn´t make sense to add an S to a word that already is used to describe several bricks ;).

[Darth_Bane13]

1 hour ago, Shiva said:

Reckless Ben is not an angel.

And he might very well have complicated and worsened things.

Aaaaaand the "lovely" mobs this attracts.

Is Reckless Ben trying to be a Candace Owens? 

https://geeksandgamers.com/legal-mindset-exposes-reckless-bens-mistakes-vs-bricks-minifigs-in-lego-theft-case/

How has he worsened things? No one would know about this if not for Reckless Ben. There is a ton of money raised on the GoFundMe for Brian. 

[Yperio_Bricks]

40 minutes ago, Black Falcon said:

Where did they try to dictate how people speak please? I´ve seen claims like this before, but from what I have seen (or better read) it is more a discussion within the community. At least I myself have not read a single post, message or whatever where they tried to tell me how I have to speak. ;)

LEGO does not want the word Legos to become a generic term (German: Gattungsbegriff) because people then might say they got Bluebrixx Legos, Legos from Pantasy or a Lumibricks Legos Modular and so on.

Theoretically it is possible to loose a trademark if the generic term is in widespread use.

[JesseNight]

31 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

LEGO does not want the word Legos to become a generic term (German: Gattungsbegriff) because people then might say they got Bluebrixx Legos, Legos from Pantasy or a Lumibricks Legos Modular and so on.

Theoretically it is possible to loose a trademark if the generic term is in widespread use.

Very understandable from "LEGO's" point of view (pun totally intended) 
Unfortunately for LEGO, this is already happening. People talk about their CaDA legos and Bluebrixx legos and other brands legos all the time. It's a pretty common thing to happen too. In my country, a photo camera is generally called a kodak (which is only one of the old brands of cameras). There are more examples. They can't stop it, they can't control what word people end up using bc they will go for whatever is familiar and convenient.

[Shiva]

46 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

How has he worsened things? No one would know about this if not for Reckless Ben. There is a ton of money raised on the GoFundMe for Brian. 

IF you don't watch the video, then maybe you could atleast read the article? https://geeksandgamers.com/legal-mindset-exposes-reckless-bens-mistakes-vs-bricks-minifigs-in-lego-theft-case/

[Darth_Bane13]

18 minutes ago, Shiva said:

IF you don't watch the video, then maybe you could atleast read the article? https://geeksandgamers.com/legal-mindset-exposes-reckless-bens-mistakes-vs-bricks-minifigs-in-lego-theft-case/

I DID read the article. It's still clear to me that B&M has worsened things every step of the way. It is now costing them more business than if they had just given Brian what he was owed. Ben is so obviously not the villain here, even if he did make a couple mistakes along the way. He's literally hiding in Mexico now, all from trying to get Brian his Lego back. Also if you actually watched Reckless Bens videos you'd see him explain why they didn't get a lawyer at first and pursue this in court. Of course the millionaire lawyers are saying they should've gotten lawyers.

[Shiva]

I do agree on that B&M has it made worse too. But, it started with Reckless Ben going too far. Ben not a villain? couple mistakes? I would say that he did more than mistakes.

Or is it right to harass B&M's, that has nothing to do with this mess?

[Darth_Bane13]

2 hours ago, Shiva said:

I do agree on that B&M has it made worse too. But, it started with Reckless Ben going too far. Ben not a villain? couple mistakes? I would say that he did more than mistakes.

Or is it right to harass B&M's, that has nothing to do with this mess?

Did you even watch Reckless Bens videos?

All Ben did was ask for Brian's Lego back and they called the police, then he went to talk to the CEO and they denied ever having Brian's Lego and again threatened to call the police. All this was before he pulled any stunts or pranks.

When did Ben harass B&M's, that had nothing to do with this? Please provide any proof. He specifically told his viewers NOT to do that.

[Shiva]

17 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

When did Ben harass B&M's, that had nothing to do with this? Please provide any proof. He specifically told his viewers NOT to do that.

And people still did it.

Stunts and pranks? Well, that is a way to call it.. Harassments is one other way to call it.

Would McDonalds CEO know what happens on a McDonalds franchise? replace McDonalds with B&M.

Targeting B&M CEO etc, gave more viewers vs going after Law and Gorman? "Big company bad" effect.

Reckless Ben videos, they give his version of the story.

[Darth_Bane13]

44 minutes ago, Shiva said:

And people still did it.

Stunts and pranks? Well, that is a way to call it.. Harassments is one other way to call it.

Would McDonalds CEO know what happens on a McDonalds franchise? replace McDonalds with B&M.

Targeting B&M CEO etc, gave more viewers vs going after Law and Gorman? "Big company bad" effect.

Reckless Ben videos, they give his version of the story.

Not his fault.

What would you do if someone stole $100,000 from you? I know I'd be harassing them.

If someone is telling you one of your franchises stole $100,000 you should probably hear them out.

B&M corporate took over the store that had Brian's Lego. Law and Gorman could not do anything at that point. Do you know how consignment works? Brian still owns that Lego in the store and they called the cops when he tried to get it back.

Yeah and you clearly decided to eat up B&M propaganda instead of giving it a fair shake.

Are you Mormon by chance?

[anothergol]

11 hours ago, Black Falcon said:

Where did they try to dictate how people speak please? I´ve seen claims like this before, but from what I have seen (or better read) it is more a discussion within the community. At least I myself have not read a single post, message or whatever where they tried to tell me how I have to speak. ;)

I don't think they do (maybe just to YT creators who'd review other brands and say legos), however they certainly do not like it at all. Saying legos/legoes is a step towards genericizes the brand (even though we're talking about real Lego sets here, but that's not even important in the story), and Lego would certainly hate "legos" becoming the next aspirin or cellophane. 

15 hours ago, danth said:

It's fascinating to see how, as more and more youtubers & media outlets finally get around to covering this, the more they have to "one up" everyone else and present a unique take, because otherwise they have nothing new to offer.

Techdirt's "angle" was "Everyone should have talked to a lawyer", even though they go on to explain that Bryan did talk to lawyers and it's not really worth it to hire lawyers to sue over this amount of money. 

Legal Eagle's angle was "Everyone is wrong about this story" even though their video didn't really make a convincing or coherent argument to that effect. 

And now Coffeezilla's angle was "I found the missing Lego" even though he totally didn't, and he actually raised more questions than answers. He even ends the video with a clip of Reckless Ben saying "you solved it!" but like, no he didn't, where are the Legos?

And there's more every day. Mormon YT channels concluding both "it has nothing to do with mormons" and "looks like typical mormon mafia".

And now traces of the Amon dude trying to steal a company in 2020 (and also suing his dad) have been found. Coffeezilla should definitely dig into that, even if it has directly nothing to do with the case, it adds to the shadiness of the villain stache guy. 

[Peppermint_M]

I don't say Sheeps, so I don't say Legos. 

So is it all internet drama for clicks? Engagement pays the bills for all of the YouTube posse. 

[JesseNight]

14 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Ben is so obviously not the villain here, even if he did make a couple mistakes along the way.

He's not the main villain for sure, and his intentions weren't villainous either. It's his methods that are questionable (and feel like aiming at putting down a good show to watch).
Also we don't know what happened off camera that we don't see. They mentioned many times how the Police edited their bodycam footage... but Ben's videos are edited too (or they would have been crazy long and very boring, obviously). We don't know everything and we never will.
 

10 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

What would you do if someone stole $100,000 from you? I know I'd be harassing them.

Well... Then your methods would be wrong too. I admit it would be tempting but it's not the way to get your stuff back. It's a way to get into more trouble and get the Police called on you. And they won't care whether or not you think you have a good reason for harassment.
On another note, it's long been known now that the amount still owed was a lot less than 100k.
 

10 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

B&M corporate took over the store that had Brian's Lego. Law and Gorman could not do anything at that point. Do you know how consignment works? Brian still owns that Lego in the store and they called the cops when he tried to get it back.

Yeah and you clearly decided to eat up B&M propaganda instead of giving it a fair shake.

In the end, we're not in a position to judge so we should hear both sides out. Brian was in his right to demand his LEGO back for sure. But we know nothing about how that conversation went, and whether or not it got out of hand. We only have their word. I'm not defending anyone, I'm just very skeptical towards facts we have absolutely no evidence for and only their word.
All that aside, up to this point still nobody knows where the missing LEGO ended up going.
 

22 minutes ago, Peppermint_M said:

So is it all internet drama for clicks? Engagement pays the bills for all of the YouTube posse. 

I'm sure there's truth underneath, but as usual things have been blown out of proportions.

Edited June 12 by JesseNight

[Darth_Bane13]

2 hours ago, JesseNight said:

He's not the main villain for sure, and his intentions weren't villainous either. It's his methods that are questionable (and feel like aiming at putting down a good show to watch).
Also we don't know what happened off camera that we don't see. They mentioned many times how the Police edited their bodycam footage... but Ben's videos are edited too (or they would have been crazy long and very boring, obviously). We don't know everything and we never will.
 

Well... Then your methods would be wrong too. I admit it would be tempting but it's not the way to get your stuff back. It's a way to get into more trouble and get the Police called on you. And they won't care whether or not you think you have a good reason for harassment.
On another note, it's long been known now that the amount still owed was a lot less than 100k.
 

In the end, we're not in a position to judge so we should hear both sides out. Brian was in his right to demand his LEGO back for sure. But we know nothing about how that conversation went, and whether or not it got out of hand. We only have their word. I'm not defending anyone, I'm just very skeptical towards facts we have absolutely no evidence for and only their word.
All that aside, up to this point still nobody knows where the missing LEGO ended up going.
 

I'm sure there's truth underneath, but as usual things have been blown out of proportions.

I think there is enough information out there now to take a stance and not just fence sit. Yeah some of Bens methods weren't particularly effective but they're also not morally wrong in my opinion. The contract he had Amanda sign for example; He wasn't going to try and enforce it, it was just a funny twist in the video, and well deserved considering how unreasonable Amanda was being.

Part of what Reckless Ben does, is stand up for the little guy who doesn't necessarily have the legal power to fight back. What else were they supposed to do when B&M said "we're gonna drag this out in court until it cost you more than the Lego?" The one who should be in trouble with the police is B&M for stealing the Lego, Ben's crimes were minor compared to that, but obviously the American Fork police are corrupt. I forgot the exact number from Coffeezilla's video.

There is a decent amount of video evidence, certainly enough to draw some conclusions from. I have heard both sides out, I watched both the ACOB streams with the CEO and COO.

[danth]

21 hours ago, Shiva said:

Reckless Ben is not an angel.

I love this because "he's no angel" is literally a meme that pokes fun about how bad people will go through a good person's entire life history to find any imperfections in order to assassinate their character. Like when cops shoot a kid, and then find out the kid got detention once in school, and release that to the media. 

I think of Restless Ben as "chaotic good" -- his heart is in the right place but he uses any means necessary to fight. I kinda wish more good guys were like this actually... 

And of course, part of why he does this stuff is to make a name for himself, and get clicks. Everyone has to pay the bills somehow. 

Edited June 12 by danth

[Shiva]

14 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Not his fault.

What would you do if someone stole $100,000 from you? I know I'd be harassing them.

If someone is telling you one of your franchises stole $100,000 you should probably hear them out.

B&M corporate took over the store that had Brian's Lego. Law and Gorman could not do anything at that point. Do you know how consignment works? Brian still owns that Lego in the store and they called the cops when he tried to get it back.

Yeah and you clearly decided to eat up B&M propaganda instead of giving it a fair shake.

Are you Mormon by chance?

B&M propaganda? And what is Reckless Ben's?

Mormon? Ain't that an Unites States of America, thing? I haven't even visited that continent during my lifetime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism

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Mormonism is the theology and religious tradition of the Latter Day Saint movement of Restorationist Christianity started by Joseph Smith in Western New York in the 1820s and 1830s.

 

23 minutes ago, danth said:

I love this because "he's no angel" is literally a meme that pokes fun about how bad people will go through a good person's entire life history to find any imperfections in order to assassinate their character. Like when cops shoot a kid, and then find out the kid got detention once in school, and release that to the media. 

I think of Restless Ben as "chaotic good" -- his heart is in the right place but he uses any means necessary to fight. I kinda wish more good guys were like this actually... 

And of course, part of why he does this stuff is to make a name for himself, and get clicks. Everyone has to pay the bills somehow. 

That last part you wrote, that I do agree on. make name, get clicks.

And what has the first part you wrote anything to do with this?

[danth]

1 hour ago, Shiva said:

And what has the first part you wrote anything to do with this?

I'm saying that nobody is an angel, and it doesn't matter if he's imperfect. Using questionable tactics doesn't reflect at all on his morality. 

[Toastie]

7 hours ago, Peppermint_M said:

I don't say Sheeps, so I don't say Legos. 

(OK please forgive me derailing this thread, but I find this so entertaining )

Hah! You can't even say or write Legos because, as per Gemini (and who would not trust them):

"According to the company, the word "Legos" does not exist."

Wait: Legos - a couple of hours before writing this, as far as I remember, they gave me some weird drink ... I spoke the word out loud, and my wife said: Are you OK? I replied: Did you hear that? She said what? I said: Legos? She said, yes - are you OK? I said: Yes, but you heard a word, that does not exist. She just looked at me ... and then she said: Do you want me to take you upstairs and show you all your Legos? I said no - they don't exist ... Hours later: Mr. T, we'll have you a couple of days here in our really nice facility. You seem to be overworked. We also have a little room with Legos, so you can relax a bit ... build lill things ... I replied: No I can't - your Legos don't exist ...

... to be continued ...  

Legos. As in shrimps. 

Best
Thorsten

 

 

[Darth_Bane13]

3 hours ago, Shiva said:

B&M propaganda? And what is Reckless Ben's?

The truth.

[danth]

8 hours ago, Peppermint_M said:

I don't say Sheeps, so I don't say Legos. 

But I bet you say Pigs and Cows. 😁

[Black Falcon]

23 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

LEGO does not want the word Legos to become a generic term (German: Gattungsbegriff) because people then might say they got Bluebrixx Legos, Legos from Pantasy or a Lumibricks Legos Modular and so on.

Theoretically it is possible to loose a trademark if the generic term is in widespread use.

Well, of course they don´t and for a very good reason - no company would want that to happen. But I don´t really see the connection between that and the discussion whether actual Lego should be called Legos or not.

22 hours ago, JesseNight said:

Very understandable from "LEGO's" point of view (pun totally intended) 
Unfortunately for LEGO, this is already happening. People talk about their CaDA legos and Bluebrixx legos and other brands legos all the time. It's a pretty common thing to happen too. In my country, a photo camera is generally called a kodak (which is only one of the old brands of cameras). There are more examples. They can't stop it, they can't control what word people end up using bc they will go for whatever is familiar and convenient.

Pretty sure they can actually. Not stopping people overall from using it, but in general, I would say it is actually used less than a few years back, nowadays I see people talking about interlocking Bricks, building blocks and so on, whereas a few years back it was like way more people calling it Lego.

[anothergol]

8 hours ago, JesseNight said:

Also we don't know what happened off camera that we don't see. They mentioned many times how the Police edited their bodycam footage... but Ben's videos are edited too (or they would have been crazy long and very boring, obviously). We don't know everything and we never will.

So much has been filmed & documented in other ways in this story. All we've seen from Ben's side is... film & documents. All we've heard from the other side is... "trust me" (while they ALL also film & have documents). Except from the Police's "oopsie" (if you can believe that) that worked against them. And information found by third-parties that also has worked against the crooks. 

I just can't see what could possibly have been done on Ben's side, that wasn't filmed or edited out, that could move the cursor to the other side even a little bit. 

[Shiva]

46 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

The truth.

Well, that is your opinion. Maybe you believe everything Candace Owens tells too?