2GodBDGlory Posted May 1 Posted May 1 Ooh, what a great LBG parts pack! 3x11 panels in LBG are great-now my fake ones won't be immediately obvious! Also, a recolor of those wheel arches means that my Geo Tracker/Suzuki Vitara MOC can now likely actually be built in one color without 3D printed wheel arches! Even if it's not the black I initially designed it for. 3 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: All these LBG part but no 3x7 panel in LBG... Yeah, as soon as I saw the set I started looking excitedly for those, so that's disappointing. 11 minutes ago, Zerobricks said: A quick mock up shows that we should be getting a 4 stud long double ended CV joint and I think I can also see a 4 stud long steering link which is also probably used in the Bronco. That'd be great if it turns out to be right! Quote
thekoRngear Posted May 1 Posted May 1 From my guessing the build will be very very sturdy; much like 2023's Peugeot 9x8 Hypercar. I reckon with time the steering will be a bit too tight. Anyways, it is hopefully going to be my next Technic set. Quote
lmdesigner42 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 This is looking like one of the best sets of the 2H wave! I would have been impressed by the inclusion of AWD, having AWD plus full independent suspension plus extra drifting feature is really nice given the smaller scale. It even has rear seats. If they do have a 4L double-ended CV axle, that'll be a little disappointing, it seems wasteful to have the exact same part in 4L and 5L (from 42154). A 2L piece of ribbed hose could replace a CV joint on the inside, as has been done in some MOCs. It's cool to see the 3L black suspension arm being used for a compact independent setup, hopefully such a short arm doesn't negatively affect the geometry. I think the linear clutch could be used between the front and rear axles instead of a center diff, to keep them from binding during cornering. Quote
gyenesvi Posted May 1 Posted May 1 Looks pretty decent, and even though I'm not a big fan of so much LBG for bodywork, it seems like a good parts pack for new micro-panels. But the AWD is a very pleasant surprise, including the new suspension and drivetrain parts! It looks like Lego is going for even link sizes? We have 4, 6, 8 now, wonder if they'll fill the gaps with 5 and 7.. Quote
Jundis Posted May 2 Posted May 2 With the same width of 21 studs (like Doms Charger), this also further questions, why the Supra has been made in the small scale. Although a 1970s Charger is 193 cm in width and the Skyline under 180... Quote
Auroralampinen Posted May 2 Posted May 2 Here is partial parts list:). https://www.lego.com/en-us/service/replacement-parts/missing/42210/pieces?search=* Quote
Equilibrium Posted May 2 Posted May 2 Above link doesn't list any CV joints or steering links so we might be really getting something new in that regard (since for 42209 Volvo Loader double 5L joint is listed) Quote
Zerobricks Posted May 2 Posted May 2 I think lowering the ball joints for drifting also engages the RWD, since the set uses a transmission ring and handle. Quote
Aurorasaurus Posted May 2 Posted May 2 58 minutes ago, Zerobricks said: I think lowering the ball joints for drifting also engages the RWD, since the set uses a transmission ring and handle. Do you mean you think the rwd is not connected when driving normally? That would be such a weird choice... Quote
Zerobricks Posted May 2 Posted May 2 4 minutes ago, Aurorasaurus said: Do you mean you think the rwd is not connected when driving normally? That would be such a weird choice... Yes, or AWD not being engaged. It would make sense to keep the tranmission from winding up due to a lack of central diff. Quote
Paul B Technic Posted May 2 Posted May 2 If the Technic features work well and are interesting, I might finally get in to these. Quote
2GodBDGlory Posted May 2 Posted May 2 6 hours ago, Zerobricks said: Yes, or AWD not being engaged. It would make sense to keep the tranmission from winding up due to a lack of central diff. Is the lack of a central diff that big of an issue? I'm pretty sure we've had 4WD sets before without them, and I thought the difference was pretty negligible with Lego Quote
Auroralampinen Posted May 2 Posted May 2 10 minutes ago, 2GodBDGlory said: I'm pretty sure we've had 4WD sets before without them, and I thought the difference was pretty negligible with Lego I look at you bugatti chiron and sian;) Quote
Bartybum Posted May 2 Posted May 2 12 hours ago, Zerobricks said: I think lowering the ball joints for drifting also engages the RWD, since the set uses a transmission ring and handle. I swear I remember seeing in the video that the rear wheels spin faster than the front when it drifts, so maybe it engages a higher gear for the rear axle? Quote
2GodBDGlory Posted May 2 Posted May 2 28 minutes ago, Bartybum said: I swear I remember seeing in the video that the rear wheels spin faster than the front when it drifts, so maybe it engages a higher gear for the rear axle? That'd be a rather neat feature! Not realistic in any way, but it would illustrate the rear tires breaking traction in a cool way Quote
Aurorasaurus Posted May 2 Posted May 2 How smoothly do those metal ball pieces role? Will it be easy enough to control or will it want to spin out? Quote
Bartybum Posted May 2 Posted May 2 7 minutes ago, Aurorasaurus said: How smoothly do those metal ball pieces role? Will it be easy enough to control or will it want to spin out? Pretty much depends on how much force you put on the steering knob. It probably won't take much effort to stop it from spinning out Quote
Timorzelorzworz Posted May 5 Posted May 5 (edited) The rear wheels are engaged with driving ring to the drivetrain when the drift function is enabled (the balls lowered). The rear wheels hanging in the air are driven a bit faster than the front wheels. There is only a green 20T gear included to fit the driving ring (no red 16T). The rear wheels in the air spins a bit faster than front wheels with a 20/12 gear ratio. From the pic it looks like the model doesn't have a rear differential, only a rigig axle. Edited May 5 by Timorzelorzworz Gears added Quote
Auroralampinen Posted May 5 Posted May 5 6 minutes ago, Timorzelorzworz said: The rear wheels are engaged with driving ring to the drivetrain when the drift function is enabled (the balls lowered). The rear wheels hanging in the air are driven a bit faster than the front wheels. There is only a green 20T gear included to fit the driving ring (no red 16T). The rear wheels in the air spins a bit faster than Front wheels with a 20/12 gear ratio. From the pic it looks like the model doesn't have a rear differential, only a rigig axle. So, maybe this is then, the first ever FWD car in technic history:). Quote
Timorzelorzworz Posted May 5 Posted May 5 Yes, and it is the first right-hand driven model with working steering wheel in the newer (studless) Technic history. Quote
Zerobricks Posted May 5 Posted May 5 15 minutes ago, Timorzelorzworz said: From the pic it looks like the model doesn't have a rear differential, only a rigig axle. There are 2 diffs in the partial inventory. You can see it on Brickset. Quote
Timorzelorzworz Posted May 5 Posted May 5 7 minutes ago, Zerobricks said: There are 2 diffs in the partial inventory. You can see it on Brickset. Thanks for the info. I had only the list on the Lego page with the link shared on this thread. Brickset seems to be the better source here. Quote
gyenesvi Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 5/3/2025 at 1:05 AM, 2GodBDGlory said: Not realistic in any way, but it would illustrate the rear tires breaking traction in a cool way Haha, a friend of mine commented that the only thing that would make it more cool is if the rear wheels were spinning faster :) So in the end you seem to convince yourself that it is more realistic! Nice feature! Quote
2GodBDGlory Posted May 6 Posted May 6 2 hours ago, gyenesvi said: Haha, a friend of mine commented that the only thing that would make it more cool is if the rear wheels were spinning faster :) So in the end you seem to convince yourself that it is more realistic! Nice feature! Actually, on second thought, I suppose the result, if not the implementation, could be slightly realistic! Assuming the real car had a central differential, which I'm confident it would, you certainly could have more RPM directed to the rear once you break traction if the central differential decides that that's the path of least resistance. Quote
Stereo Posted May 6 Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, 2GodBDGlory said: Actually, on second thought, I suppose the result, if not the implementation, could be slightly realistic! Assuming the real car had a central differential, which I'm confident it would, you certainly could have more RPM directed to the rear once you break traction if the central differential decides that that's the path of least resistance. Actually they have a central clutch pack that's electronically controlled, so more like a transfer case than a differential. The rear is always directly driven by the transmission. Quote
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