LEGO Star Wars Set Discussion 2025 - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Renny The Spaceman]

58 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

Yes, that's it, the difference in design was messing a bit with my inner eye. Contrary to the slick stripe brought forward in 2022, not at all inspired by The Black Series, the returning top banner results in a more disjointed look on the package. At least when the coloring differs this drastically. Upon further inspection, the Cobb Vanth's Speeder boxart actually looks pretty wild. 

Yeah, I think this is it, it's weird after the branding being so consistent across the different source material

1 hour ago, BrickPrick said:

Yeah, it's just all over the place at this point. Of course, more than ever Star Wars sub-themes releasing a couple of months apart means more spreading out sets, which I can totally get behind. All those shows and movies are obviously on Disney and out of Lego's control. It's just these additional Lego Star Wars sub-themes which take things to a whole new level that I can definitely do without. But like I said, since I never run out of sets to get later on, the drought between waves doesn't bother me too much. But I can see the frustration for an omnipresent Lego Star Wars-only fan. 

 Yeah, exactly. Because now it's helmets/busts, UCS, Mechs, Microfighters, Buildable characters and Midi scale vehicles in addition to the playsets multiple times every year which just make it feel more segmented. I'm the same with the backlog, but moreso as I rarely buy SW at all, the only newset I've gotten since the AT-TE was the Arc-170 (maybe I'm the problem )

[Darth_Bane13]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

That's fair, I prefer the latter to the former but I get where you're coming from. And I share the ideal.

Where do things like terrain or emplacements factor in for you? I personally consider stuff like that more-or-less canon, as even though that specific configuration of rocks may not have shown up onscreen, it's not like an explicitly made-up vehicle. (Which does, unfortunately, place the barricade at a high tier for me, though I maintain regardless of that it looks like absolute garbage.)

I will say as an exception I do like the 2014 swamp speeder which was scaled down. I think terrain is fun for kids but it's just spare parts for me. I think the battle Saleucami had some nice foliage which was fun to play with as a kid (although perhaps not technically a BP?).

[Mandalorianknight]

8 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I will say as an exception I do like the 2014 swamp speeder which was scaled down. I think terrain is fun for kids but it's just spare parts for me. I think the battle Saleucami had some nice foliage which was fun to play with as a kid (although perhaps not technically a BP?).

Honestly I think at this point given how it's not very prominent in media and how it's had two consecutive scaled-down ones, there's probably a solid segment of the fanbase that just thinks they're actually that small. I know I used to be that way about the clone command center.

Interesting. I'm actually the opposite way- I assume kids would rather have a vehicle or something more interesting, but terrain builds are probably the ones I keep around most since they give you something to pose the figures on rather than a grey baseplate. Whereas I generally scrap all the non-canon builds and a chunk of the downsized ones- especially if I'm getting more than two copies.

[CloneCommando99]

GET TO DA TIE AVENGA!!!

Day #206 of Jonkling my way to a Tie Avenger!

 

Will Smart Brick Palpatine be able to shock the kids with unlimited power?

18 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

My Walmart's got the pre-christmas-season sales up right now, and it is a little disheartening to see what they think they need to get rid of. Some stuff I could've told you would be on deep discount this early, like the logo or 327th pack, but all three of this year's $60-70 ships, what most people have considered the best of the year, are on significant discount as well. And yet the turbo tank hasn't hit discount yet. (Though for that one I think they may just let the larger sets sit longer before trying to discount them- we've had a full set of Dark Falcons sitting here since release and they've just now started to drop the price.)

That’s concerning. But I guess that means more people will buy them, so a big plus.

I’m going to bet that the U-Wing will end up being the #1 LSW bestseller this Christmas. It’s more iconic than the V-19 torrent, has a varied figure selection with an equal balance of Heroes and Villains (unlike the ARC-170) and is on a decent discount in most places. Which is good, it’s a great set and honestly is probably (and ironically since it’s based on Andor) a better entry point for kids into LSW than the ARC-170 (no main characters), Jango’s Prisoner with a Job One (no hero minifigs) and the V-19 (not an iconic vehicle).

 

And it may lead to more Andor/ Rogue One play-sets. Which would make me happy for obvious reasons.

Edited November 16 by CloneCommando99

[Darth_Bane13]

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Interesting. I'm actually the opposite way- I assume kids would rather have a vehicle or something more interesting, but terrain builds are probably the ones I keep around most since they give you something to pose the figures on rather than a grey baseplate. Whereas I generally scrap all the non-canon builds and a chunk of the downsized ones- especially if I'm getting more than two copies.

As a kid I liked terrain builds because you could recreate a scene or something, and lots of places for figures to stand.

[Lordhelmet]

6 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

As a kid I liked terrain builds because you could recreate a scene or something, and lots of places for figures to stand.

Truth, the best ones were not the ships but terrain based/ combos like the speeder bikes with Luke or a snow speeder with a bunch of terrain for snow troopers. Big ships were my least favorite to play with even though they were cool.

[BrickPrick]

On 11/15/2025 at 8:17 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

Thank you, I appreciate it.

I had a typo in there. You probably got it in the first place, but I, of course, meant constructive criticism.  

On 11/15/2025 at 8:49 PM, Renny The Spaceman said:

Yeah, I think this is it, it's weird after the branding being so consistent across the different source material

 Yeah, exactly. Because now it's helmets/busts, UCS, Mechs, Microfighters, Buildable characters and Midi scale vehicles in addition to the playsets multiple times every year which just make it feel more segmented. I'm the same with the backlog, but moreso as I rarely buy SW at all, the only newset I've gotten since the AT-TE was the Arc-170 (maybe I'm the problem )

It's something to get used to for sure. But I'm sure it well be much less glaring when the color contrast isn't that high. 

Other than some guilty pleasure phases here and there, I only collect the Lego Star Wars theme.

Edited November 17 by BrickPrick

[Mandalorianknight]

12 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Will Smart Brick Palpatine be able to shock the kids with unlimited power?

That’s concerning. But I guess that means more people will buy them, so a big plus.

I’m going to bet that the U-Wing will end up being the #1 LSW bestseller this Christmas. It’s more iconic than the V-19 torrent, has a varied figure selection with an equal balance of Heroes and Villains (unlike the ARC-170) and is on a decent discount in most places. Which is good, it’s a great set and honestly is probably (and ironically since it’s based on Andor) a better entry point for kids into LSW than the ARC-170 (no main characters), Jango’s Prisoner with a Job One (no hero minifigs) and the V-19 (not an iconic vehicle).

Depending on what kind of tech they're trying to fit into that torso, there's a nonzero chance one the palpatines has a lore-accurate explosion if it gets left too close to the radiator or something.

I dunno, I generally think if you have to put the set on a bigger sale it means it probably wasn't selling well. If they were selling well at $70 assumably they wouldn't feel the need to slap a sale on there.

It's possible- I think one of the four price point ships certainly will- but I think there's definitely some Andor Copium going on. I would say most kids are more likely to know "clone pilot" than any of the Andor characters in the U-wing, for instance, not to mention Obi-Wan.

My guess is the torrent. It's not as well known of a vehicle, but I'd say the U-wing isn't the most iconic either, and they both fit into their respective faction's design schemes just fine. More importantly, the set comes with Obi-Wan, Ventress, and a helmeted clone trooper. You get a clone trooper, which kids seem to like, alongside a jedi and a sith-adjacent lightsaber user. It's got the best battle-in-a-box element, and even the lowest initial price.

8 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

As a kid I liked terrain builds because you could recreate a scene or something, and lots of places for figures to stand.

And that's why they're still one of my favorite options as an adult, it gives you something to pose the figures on/around rather than just having them sit on a grey baseplate.

1 hour ago, Lordhelmet said:

Truth, the best ones were not the ships but terrain based/ combos like the speeder bikes with Luke or a snow speeder with a bunch of terrain for snow troopers. Big ships were my least favorite to play with even though they were cool.

Terrain builds really are excellent. I also like that lego seems to be able to limit the stud shooter integration into those tiny mortars, because it frees up the rest of the set to either be terrain or just otherwise not have to fit stud shooters in.

1 hour ago, BrickPrick said:

I had a typo in there. You probably got in the first place, but I, of course, meant constructive criticism.  

I didn't even notice the typo.

Edited November 16 by Mandalorianknight

[Darth_Bane13]

4 hours ago, Lordhelmet said:

Truth, the best ones were not the ships but terrain based/ combos like the speeder bikes with Luke or a snow speeder with a bunch of terrain for snow troopers. Big ships were my least favorite to play with even though they were cool.

Big ships were cool if they had a nice interior though, like the play scale falcons. 

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

My guess is the torrent. It's not as well known of a vehicle, but I'd say the U-wing isn't the most iconic either, and they both fit into their respective faction's design schemes just fine. More importantly, the set comes with Obi-Wan, Ventress, and a helmeted clone trooper. You get a clone trooper, which kids seem to like, alongside a jedi and a sith-adjacent lightsaber user. It's got the best battle-in-a-box element, and even the lowest initial price.

And that's why they're still one of my favorite options as an adult, it gives you something to pose the figures on/around rather than just having them sit on a grey baseplate.

Terrain builds really are excellent. I also like that lego seems to be able to limit the stud shooter integration into those tiny mortars, because it frees up the rest of the set to either be terrain or just otherwise not have to fit stud shooters in.

If I was a kid I'd definitely take the Torrent, a Jedi and a Sith are a lot more fun than some Andor characters they've probably never even heard of. Their character designs aren't very toyish either if that makes sense. Disclaimer: I like the Andor show, but I doubt lots of kids do.

 

I think I prefer ships as an adult, specifically highly detailed, non downsized, play sets. Terrain builds often feel incomplete looking to me; Even with the diorama's they made, I'd rather display a ship.

 

 

[CloneCommando99]

Day #207 of the Tie Avenger lobby.

4 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I think I prefer ships as an adult, specifically highly detailed, non downsized, play sets. Terrain builds often feel incomplete looking to me; Even with the diorama's they made, I'd rather display a ship.

I’ve personally always preferred shuttles and troop transports the most. It’s just so cool to deploy troopers.

[Renny The Spaceman]

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Day #207 of the Tie Avenger lobby.

I’ve personally always preferred shuttles and troop transports the most. It’s just so cool to deploy troopers.

Well to be fair, wasn't the big Hullabaloo with the Andor set that it could fit trooper, singular? Maybe 2 if they're leaning on eachother 

[Renny The Spaceman]

13 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

It's something to get used to for sure. But I'm sure it well be much less glaring when the color contrast isn't that high. 

Other than some guilty pleasure phases here and there, I only collect the Lego Star Wars theme.

Guilty pleasure? Not sure many themes fall into that relative to SW

[BrickPrick]

8 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Guilty pleasure? Not sure many themes fall into that relative to SW

Yeah, you know these 4+ Mickey & Friends sets? Me, the big minifigure afficianado that I am, got all of those sets, primarily because of the figures. I don't know if this alone qualifies as "guilty pleasure", but it surely felt like one. 

 

Back to Lego Star Wars, I don't think I have a particular preference when it comes to the kind of system scale set on offer. Sure, my personal wishlist is as big as the next person, but this is more due to specific minifigures only reasonably fitting in so many sets and less about absolutely needing thing X or thing Y. So I enjoy a variety of vehicles from what i consider the core Skywalker Saga. I also like location based sets and would like to see more of them again, be it more compact Duel sets, the larger location format akin to Yavin 4 getting more explored or the return of full blown official MBS sets. 

[CloneCommando99]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result.

On an unrelated note, it’s day #208 of the Tie Avenger campaign.

 

Empire Magazine is supposed to be releasing an article on M&G this Thursday. Maybe we’ll get a glimpse into any characters and vehicles Lego may decide to make?

[Meaf]

5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result.

On an unrelated note, it’s day #208 of the Tie Avenger campaign.

That's actually not the widely agreed upon definition by most dictionaries. Most of the definitions I found mention acting with irrationality or foolishness, and since the Tie Avenger campaign is clearly on the road to success, I believe it must continue until the goal is achieved .

5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Empire Magazine is supposed to be releasing an article on M&G this Thursday. Maybe we’ll get a glimpse into any characters and vehicles Lego may decide to make?

Well if it's the Empire I can't imagine they'll be giving particularly fair coverage...in seriousness though I am actually interested to see what shows up. I'm not even especial interested in M&G but I am of course interested in Legos and it still feels like we have so little information on these sets.

[Mandalorianknight]

On 11/16/2025 at 9:25 PM, Darth_Bane13 said:

If I was a kid I'd definitely take the Torrent, a Jedi and a Sith are a lot more fun than some Andor characters they've probably never even heard of. Their character designs aren't very toyish either if that makes sense. Disclaimer: I like the Andor show, but I doubt lots of kids do.

Yeah, that's the issue with the andor sets is that while the show is excellent it's not the type of media that has kids lining up to buy merch. It can be a good show and simultaneously not make much sense for lego to make too many sets for it. 

On 11/17/2025 at 2:25 AM, CloneCommando99 said:

Day #207 of the Tie Avenger lobby.

I’ve personally always preferred shuttles and troop transports the most. It’s just so cool to deploy troopers.

Always weird to me that we never got a reaper, being a tie fighter that could deploy troopers.

[BrickPrick]

So on the topic of bestselling sets, based on last month's Amazon performance, here's many of 2025 major german releases, ranked from highest to lowest:

• 327th Star Corps Clone Trooper Battle Pack (3000+)
• Death Trooper & Night Trooper Battle Pack (2000+)
• Plo Koon's Jedi Starfighter Microfighter (2000+)
• Battle of Felucia: Separatist MTT (1000+)
• Ahsoka's Jedi Interceptor (1000+)
• Jango Fett's Slave 1 (700+)
• Arc-170 Starfighter (700+)
• V-19 Torrent Starfighter (700+)
• Rebel U-Wing Starfighter (600+)
• Republic Juggernaut (500+)
• The Force Burner Snowspeeder (300+)

Edited November 19 by BrickPrick

[Darth_Bane13]

1 hour ago, BrickPrick said:

So on the topic of bestselling sets, based on last month's Amazon performance, here's many of 2025 major german releases, ranked from highest to lowest:

• 327th Star Corps Clone Trooper Battle Pack (3000+)
• Death Trooper & Night Trooper Battle Pack (2000+)
• Plo Koon's Jedi Starfighter Microfighter (2000+)
• Battle of Felucia: Separatist MTT (1000+)
• Ahsoka's Jedi Interceptor (1000+)
• Jango Fett's Slave 1 (700+)
• Arc-170 Starfighter (700+)
• V-19 Torrent Starfighter (700+)
• Rebel U-Wing Starfighter (600+)
• Republic Juggernaut (500+)
• The Force Burner Snowspeeder (300+)

Wow people are really just accepting $45 battle packs...

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, BrickPrick said:

So on the topic of bestselling sets, based on last month's Amazon performance, here's many of 2025 major german releases, ranked from highest to lowest:

• 327th Star Corps Clone Trooper Battle Pack (3000+)
• Death Trooper & Night Trooper Battle Pack (2000+)
• Plo Koon's Jedi Starfighter Microfighter (2000+)
• Battle of Felucia: Separatist MTT (1000+)
• Ahsoka's Jedi Interceptor (1000+)
• Jango Fett's Slave 1 (700+)
• Arc-170 Starfighter (700+)
• V-19 Torrent Starfighter (700+)
• Rebel U-Wing Starfighter (600+)
• Republic Juggernaut (500+)
• The Force Burner Snowspeeder (300+)

Aside from the obvious issue of the 327th pack being such a bestseller, this isn't terrible. The juggarnaut's having a real tough time of it, for one thing. But the fact that the four sets most people consider the best of the year- those $60-70 starfighters with 3-4 figs- are so close to the bottom is pretty concerning. 

 

I have my excel of the SW advents and realized I hadn't yet updated it for 2025. 2025 is tough for me to quantify into my standard system, given that it includes two one-piece (is real) figures. Previously I counted Baby Yoda as a minifigure, so I stuck with that precedent and counted Babu as one as well, with the BD-unit being a molded droid maybe more than the B2s and B1s the catagory is meant for. Anyway, here's the breakdown:

Minifigures: 3: (Babu, Jawa, C-3PO) against an average of 5.67 overall and 5 since 2021, the first to contain a number other than 5 since 2021

Molded Droids: 5 (B1, B2, BD, BB, R7) against an average of 1.9 overall and 1.25 since 2021. All-time high.

Brick-built droids: 8 (Treadwell, Short Probe, Gender Reveal Party GNK, Buzz on a stick, B2EMO, medical christmas tree droid, Candy Cane mouse droid, Pit Droid). against an average of 1.53 overall and 1 for the modern era (post-2021) All-time high.

Microbuild: 0  against an average of 13 for both all time and the modern era. All time low, first ever 0.

System-compatible build: 9 (booster seat, charlie brown christmas tree, Crate 1, crawler, desk, tool rack, crate 2, crate 3 with soda bottles, crane.) (It comes to 25 because BB-8 and the charlie brown christmas tree are in the same bag) against an average of 4 for both all time and the modern era. All time high.

The set also contains four new prints (Babu, BB torso, BB head, Jawa torso) and C-3PO has arm printing, against an average of 2.07 for all time and 2.25 for the modern era. Tied with 2014 for all-time high.

And it includes what I believe to be our first-ever new mold, though one I assume was designed for TMAG.

As for my thoughts, while initially I disliked the set for it's drop in minifigures (only TWO normal minifigures?!?!?!?), it's markedly better in literally every other scenario. More droids (both molded and brick-built) and more system-compatible builds (all time highs for all three), as well as being the first advent calendar without ANY microbuilds. The first time ever where every build- aside from some christmas colors- could be integrated into your standard scale SW sets. This is an unequivocable victory. I'm sure the microbuilds have some fans, but I think most people would prefer the builds fit the scale of the other minifigure-compatible sets. If I had one request for 2026, it would be that instead of a new mold and 4 new prints, we maybe get a few of those brick-builds replaced to bring our figure count back to 5 at least. But overall a good sign for the set, I think.

13 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Wow people are really just accepting $45 battle packs...

This is a big issue. I feel good seeing the pack get marked down more and more at my local walmart and still not move units, but that anecdote doesn't really compare to being the bestselling SW set in germany on amazon. Doesn't even matter if it's one guy being a statistical outlier, if it's selling 50% better than the next bestselling set in a somewhat significant market, that doesn't bode well for the future of the theme. Everybody get ready for the $50 104th and 41st packs...

[Darth_Bane13]

14 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

This is a big issue. I feel good seeing the pack get marked down more and more at my local walmart and still not move units, but that anecdote doesn't really compare to being the bestselling SW set in germany on amazon. Doesn't even matter if it's one guy being a statistical outlier, if it's selling 50% better than the next bestselling set in a somewhat significant market, that doesn't bode well for the future of the theme. Everybody get ready for the $50 104th and 41st packs...

9k sold this past month in the US... by far the best selling summer set. I guess we know why Lego keeps making clone sets.

[BrickBob Studpants]

4 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I guess we know why Lego keeps making clone sets.

That‘s what I keep saying, trivial as it may be: They have ALL the sales data, whereas we have to piece things together and still won‘t ever see the full picture  Any decision they make will always be more informed than our guesswork. Not always the best decisions of course, but at least they have the data to back them up

Out of curiosity, I checked the bestsellers for a big Swiss online shop (basically our equivalent to Amazon) and I only spotted two SW sets in the top 50, one being the 2024 Clone BP and the other the 327th  Not representative at all of course, but it adds more anecdotal evidence.

The BP selling so well is no cause for concern to me since the much cheaper Night Trooper BP is not far behind!

[CloneCommando99]

8 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

So on the topic of bestselling sets, based on last month's Amazon performance, here's many of 2025 major german releases, ranked from highest to lowest:

• 327th Star Corps Clone Trooper Battle Pack (3000+)
• Death Trooper & Night Trooper Battle Pack (2000+)
• Plo Koon's Jedi Starfighter Microfighter (2000+)
• Battle of Felucia: Separatist MTT (1000+)
• Ahsoka's Jedi Interceptor (1000+)
• Jango Fett's Slave 1 (700+)
• Arc-170 Starfighter (700+)
• V-19 Torrent Starfighter (700+)
• Rebel U-Wing Starfighter (600+)
• Republic Juggernaut (500+)
• The Force Burner Snowspeeder (300+)

Ok. The fact that Imperial battlepacks are still selling well is somewhat ressuring I guess.

As for the UK though the Amazon bestselling 2025 sets in the last month show somehow both different and similar patterns. (From highest to lowest)

• 2025 Advent Calendar (10,000+)
• 327th Star Corps Clone Trooper Battle Pack (3000+)
• Star Wars Logo (2000+) (who is buying this?!!!)
• Night Trooper Battlepack (1000+)
• U-Wing (1000+)
• Ahsoka’s Jedi Interceptor (1000+)
• Plo Koon’s Microfighter (1000+)
• Jango’s Slave One play-set (900+)
• Darth Maul Mech (900+)
• Buildable Grogu and Hover Pram (900+)
• MIDI Acclamator (800+)
• 4+ N-1 Starfighter (800+)
• Buildable K2S0 (700+)
• Battle of Felucia: Separatist MTT (600+)
• ARC-170 (600+)
• Jango Fett Helmet (600+)
• V-19 Torrent (500+)
• Force Burner Snow Speeder (400+)
• Buildable Chopper (300+)
• Republic Juggernaut  (300+)
• UCS AT ST (200+)
• Midi Home One (200+)
• Buildable Battledroid with STAP Speeder (50+)
• MIDI Kylo Wren’s Shuttle (50+)

 

 

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

The BP selling so well is no cause for concern to me since the much cheaper Night Trooper BP is not far behind!

I guess. Can’t wait for Lego to make the Vader’s Fist and Shock Trooper stormtrooper battlepacks over the next few years if they follow clone logic. 
 

6 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Wow people are really just accepting $45 battle packs...

 

Even though they are now on sale to be around the retail price of the 2024 Clone vs Droid BP, I unfortunately think they’re here to stay.

I think the best case scenario we can hope for now is these $45 Battlepacks being restricted to Clone Wars only.

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

that doesn't bode well for the future of the theme. Everybody get ready for the $50 104th and 41st packs...

Oh believe me. My wallet is ready to remain sealed.

Besides, I swore an oath :

On 8/19/2025 at 7:11 AM, CloneCommando99 said:

“Bricks gather, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until Tie Avenger is a set. I shall take no clone sets, hold no buildable characters,  no knockoffs. I shall buy no helmets and win no prize draws. I shall live and die at my post. I am the keyboard in the basement. I am the poster on the forum. I am the piece that clicks in the night, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the designers, the shield that guards the dreams of Andor AFOLs. I pledge my life and honor to the Tie Avenger’s Watch, for this set and all the sets to come (until Tie Avenger).”

(Day #117)

Day #209 of upholding my oath and praying for deliverance by Tie Avenger.

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I have my excel of the SW advents and realized I hadn't yet updated it for 2025. 2025 is tough for me to quantify into my standard system, given that it includes two one-piece (is real) figures. Previously I counted Baby Yoda as a minifigure, so I stuck with that precedent and counted Babu as one as well, with the BD-unit being a molded droid maybe more than the B2s and B1s the catagory is meant for. Anyway, here's the breakdown:

As for my thoughts, while initially I disliked the set for it's drop in minifigures (only TWO normal minifigures?!?!?!?), it's markedly better in literally every other scenario. More droids (both molded and brick-built) and more system-compatible builds (all time highs for all three), as well as being the first advent calendar without ANY microbuilds. The first time ever where every build- aside from some christmas colors- could be integrated into your standard scale SW sets. This is an unequivocable victory. I'm sure the microbuilds have some fans, but I think most people would prefer the builds fit the scale of the other minifigure-compatible sets. If I had one request for 2026, it would be that instead of a new mold and 4 new prints, we maybe get a few of those brick-builds replaced to bring our figure count back to 5 at least. But overall a good sign for the set, I think.

I’m personally of the opinion that 2014 and 2016 are the best Advent Calendars for LSW.

Though I do hope we see more ACs in 2025’s specifically themed style. Imperial and Rebel ones would be great to get in the next 2 years.

[Renny The Spaceman]

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I think the best case scenario we can hope for now is these $45 Battlepacks being restricted to Clone Wars only.

I think that's plausible, at least in the short term, clone Battlepacks clearly are considered a different ordeal to other ones right now. BUT, if something SW does becomes a big hit like the Mandolorian, or another faction starts selling at the same level as the clone ones then, I think, they'll try one for another faction, if that sells well then non-zero chance Battlepacks get pushed to be a midrange item across the board. The "cheap" ones will go from 20 to 25 then 30 with no changes then maybe be phased out by "super" Battlepacks being 45 and the main ones.

8 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Wow people are really just accepting $45 battle packs...

Yeah, the main thing fans of most licensed themes seem to want is minifigures, this forum probably has a more well rounded view but keep in mind on any more general place online to talk about these things the discussion is always around sets not including X or Y figures or whatever so as long as a set like this includes like a handful of characters who'd never be made otherwise it'll be very popular.

[BrickPrick]

8 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Wow people are really just accepting $45 battle packs...

It's a depressing, if somewhat unsurprising sight to see. Though this Battle Pack retailed for 40€ here in Germany and it was discounted to ~29€ for quite some time now. So it's understandable that people would pick it up for the much more reasonable price point. Problem remains that Lego still gets their full money bag, regardless of price cuts made by retailers. We, of course, only happen to have a tiny fraction of the whole sales picture, though I doubt that the Battle Pack sold significantly less elsewhere.

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Aside from the obvious issue of the 327th pack being such a bestseller, this isn't terrible. The juggarnaut's having a real tough time of it, for one thing. But the fact that the four sets most people consider the best of the year- those $60-70 starfighters with 3-4 figs- are so close to the bottom is pretty concerning. 

 

I have my excel of the SW advents and realized I hadn't yet updated it for 2025. 2025 is tough for me to quantify into my standard system, given that it includes two one-piece (is real) figures. Previously I counted Baby Yoda as a minifigure, so I stuck with that precedent and counted Babu as one as well, with the BD-unit being a molded droid maybe more than the B2s and B1s the catagory is meant for. Anyway, here's the breakdown:

Minifigures: 3: (Babu, Jawa, C-3PO) against an average of 5.67 overall and 5 since 2021, the first to contain a number other than 5 since 2021

Molded Droids: 5 (B1, B2, BD, BB, R7) against an average of 1.9 overall and 1.25 since 2021. All-time high.

Brick-built droids: 8 (Treadwell, Short Probe, Gender Reveal Party GNK, Buzz on a stick, B2EMO, medical christmas tree droid, Candy Cane mouse droid, Pit Droid). against an average of 1.53 overall and 1 for the modern era (post-2021) All-time high.

Microbuild: 0  against an average of 13 for both all time and the modern era. All time low, first ever 0.

System-compatible build: 9 (booster seat, charlie brown christmas tree, Crate 1, crawler, desk, tool rack, crate 2, crate 3 with soda bottles, crane.) (It comes to 25 because BB-8 and the charlie brown christmas tree are in the same bag) against an average of 4 for both all time and the modern era. All time high.

The set also contains four new prints (Babu, BB torso, BB head, Jawa torso) and C-3PO has arm printing, against an average of 2.07 for all time and 2.25 for the modern era. Tied with 2014 for all-time high.

And it includes what I believe to be our first-ever new mold, though one I assume was designed for TMAG.

As for my thoughts, while initially I disliked the set for it's drop in minifigures (only TWO normal minifigures?!?!?!?), it's markedly better in literally every other scenario. More droids (both molded and brick-built) and more system-compatible builds (all time highs for all three), as well as being the first advent calendar without ANY microbuilds. The first time ever where every build- aside from some christmas colors- could be integrated into your standard scale SW sets. This is an unequivocable victory. I'm sure the microbuilds have some fans, but I think most people would prefer the builds fit the scale of the other minifigure-compatible sets. If I had one request for 2026, it would be that instead of a new mold and 4 new prints, we maybe get a few of those brick-builds replaced to bring our figure count back to 5 at least. But overall a good sign for the set, I think.

This is a big issue. I feel good seeing the pack get marked down more and more at my local walmart and still not move units, but that anecdote doesn't really compare to being the bestselling SW set in germany on amazon. Doesn't even matter if it's one guy being a statistical outlier, if it's selling 50% better than the next bestselling set in a somewhat significant market, that doesn't bode well for the future of the theme. Everybody get ready for the $50 104th and 41st packs...

Yep, the Battle Pack sales were to be expected. It's a good thing the Clone Turbo Tank doesn't seem to sell like hot cakes like a usual flagship would do. And in this scenario, gets pretty clearly outsold be the better MTT. However, seeing your bread and butter starfighters so close to the bottom can be indeed considered concerning. 

I like the new Advent Calendar for what it is. From my first impressions and describing it as "weirdest one", I have come around on it a bit. It brings something fresh and unique to the table. But it still gives me too little incentive to actually grab it like the ones from 2019 until now.

Will miss out on the ugly christmas sweeter Jawa, another cool looking Gonk and B2EMO, but that's about it. B1s and B2s don't hurt but are thrown in there every time, so are nothing special. Some of the other buildable droids are cool but not essential either. Already own the BD unit. If I was a fan of the sequels, the inclusions of evil C-3PO and that tiny Babu Frik guy would probably have tipped me over the edge of getting it, but alas...

The Advent Calendar, currently not available directly from Amazon DE, was at 10K+ or 12K+ units, by the way. Don't remember the exact number but it was definitely at least five digits. 

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Ok. The fact that Imperial battlepacks are still selling well is somewhat ressuring I guess.

As for the UK though the Amazon bestselling 2025 sets in the last month show somehow both different and similar patterns. (From highest to lowest)

• 2025 Advent Calendar (10,000+)
• 327th Star Corps Clone Trooper Battle Pack (3000+)
• Star Wars Logo (2000+) (who is buying this?!!!)
• Night Trooper Battlepack (1000+)
• U-Wing (1000+)
• Ahsoka’s Jedi Interceptor (1000+)
• Plo Koon’s Microfighter (1000+)
• Jango’s Slave One play-set (900+)
• Darth Maul Mech (900+)
• Buildable Grogu and Hover Pram (900+)
• MIDI Acclamator (800+)
• 4+ N-1 Starfighter (800+)
• Buildable K2S0 (700+)
• Battle of Felucia: Separatist MTT (600+)
• ARC-170 (600+)
• Jango Fett Helmet (600+)
• V-19 Torrent (500+)
• Force Burner Snow Speeder (400+)
• Buildable Chopper (300+)
• Republic Juggernaut  (300+)
• UCS AT ST (200+)
• Midi Home One (200+)
• Buildable Battledroid with STAP Speeder (50+)
• MIDI Kylo Wren’s Shuttle (50+)

Even though they are now on sale to be around the retail price of the 2024 Clone vs Droid BP, I unfortunately think they’re here to stay.

I think the best case scenario we can hope for now is these $45 Battlepacks being restricted to Clone Wars only.

I’m personally of the opinion that 2014 and 2016 are the best Advent Calendars for LSW.

Though I do hope we see more ACs in 2025’s specifically themed style. Imperial and Rebel ones would be great to get in the next 2 years.

Yes, who would have thought that you don't necessarily need Clones in order for your Battle Pack to still sell well. Hopefully Lego gets the message as well. They probably are aware. Otherwise they would have stopped making them already, I guess. 

The sales of the Star Wars Logo make me a little uncomfortable. But the lower end of 18+ sets is somewhat satisfying to see. 

Yeah, I think we will get at least one more 40+ bucks Clone Battle Pack. 

Ha, while I get the idea of reserving overpriced slop to TCW era only, I would like to see the reaction if it was something from the OT. Would you guys still be just as mad about the price policy? Or somewhat more forgiving, given your hunger for more Rebellion and Empire troops.

While I can't decide on which Advent Calendar to actually be the best one, the older ones are more attractive to me than the recent ones. The new ugly christmas sweeter style is cool, but it's wearing thin much more quickly than the original design. It screams "yeah, just put a new torso on it and call it a day". Whereas back in the day you would basically get a christmas-fied figure from top to bottom. Not just a new torso, but also new printed or at least fittingly red legs, some funny accessories for good measure. I mean, look at the 2012 Darth Maul with his red cape, snow stud and a shovel in addition to his regular double lightsaber. Those are the nooks and crannies that I'm missing in today's age. 

The themed Calendars is conceptionally a good idea and needs to be more explored. If you can strike down a good balance between minifigure count, buildable droids/stuff and micro-builds, it would be much more exciting than the mixture of eras we are getting instead. 

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2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

• 2025 Advent Calendar (10,000+)
• 327th Star Corps Clone Trooper Battle Pack (3000+)
• Star Wars Logo (2000+) (who is buying this?!!!)
• Night Trooper Battlepack (1000+)
• U-Wing (1000+)
• Ahsoka’s Jedi Interceptor (1000+)
• Plo Koon’s Microfighter (1000+)
• Jango’s Slave One play-set (900+)
• Darth Maul Mech (900+)
• Buildable Grogu and Hover Pram (900+)
• MIDI Acclamator (800+)
• 4+ N-1 Starfighter (800+)
• Buildable K2S0 (700+)
• Battle of Felucia: Separatist MTT (600+)
• ARC-170 (600+)
• Jango Fett Helmet (600+)
• V-19 Torrent (500+)
• Force Burner Snow Speeder (400+)
• Buildable Chopper (300+)
• Republic Juggernaut  (300+)
• UCS AT ST (200+)
• Midi Home One (200+)
• Buildable Battledroid with STAP Speeder (50+)
• MIDI Kylo Wren’s Shuttle (50+)

Hey the Star Wars logo is actually pretty nice (especially on discount).  I have it on my shelf and it really adds a lot to the display value of the shelf.  I am surprised that the 4+ set is that high on the list.  I also don’t get the v-19 being low while th acclimated is high.  I would think clone stuff stays higher based on the other trends.  And happy to see the u-wing towards the top.  Hopefully Lego sees that and recognizes the importance of andor sets and a tie avenger .

Also US Amazon numbers

advent calendar 30k

Grogu and pram 10k (been on discount)

327th 9k (been on discount)

Rex micro 9k

plo koon micro 9k

midi falcon 9k (just threw this in for fun)

Star Wars sign 4k

Ashokas interceptor 4k

mauls mech 3k

Jango slave1 2k

V-19  2k

U-wing 2k

Zombie battle pack 2k

jango helmet 1k

Arc 1k

Force burner 1k

acclimator 1k

Didn’t go further but I looked for the juggernaut at 800  it was behind at least buildable k2 and the mtt whic were at 1k)