LEGO Star Wars Set Discussion 2025 - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Renny The Spaceman]

15 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

Oh yeah... that's right. 

Oh man... I intentionally didn't want to make it too easy by saying TPM, which would have been dangerously close to a dead giveaway. Thought PT would still be a broad enough field for educated guesses, given how many named characters are still missing, but anyways... Fair play and all power to you. Impressive, most impressive. 

How long you actually think im gonna stuck with this profile picture; when will Boss Nass be released? Given the total lack of any TPM sets this whole decade, I don't wanna say it will happen until the next one. 

He's kinda hard to justify I guess, big character but there's no action set pieces with him, they could throw him in a battle of Naboo set or a Gungan sub but he's not intuitive and requires a new part or two no matter what they can't reuse.

Does anyone remember the rumour that Revenge of the Sith would open with Boss Nass yelling "WAR!" to parallel TPM's ending? Very funny to imagine it as like a random cutaway  

[BrickPrick]

2 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

I was shocked when I found out the other day that set is apparently in the ~70 range. I got it for 30 quid, every store I've gone to since it was released it's in the 40-45 range, I assumed it was just in the 45-50 range.

Ha, 50 bucks for such a set for Lego Star Wars in the year 2025? Not a chance! Maybe a decade or so ago. 

10 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

He's kinda hard to justify I guess, big character but there's no action set pieces with him, they could throw him in a battle of Naboo set or a Gungan sub but he's not intuitive and requires a new part or two no matter what they can't reuse.

Does anyone remember the rumour that Revenge of the Sith would open with Boss Nass yelling "WAR!" to parallel TPM's ending? Very funny to imagine it as like a random cutaway  

Those are some fair points, but I think stranger things have happened. To me, finally making a Boss Nass is no different than getting Lama Su or Taun We. Both not the most action oriented characters that required brand new head moulds as well. As you said, the amount of fitting sets are quite limited, so the best bet might be an anniversary or dictionary inclusion. 

I literally have never heard about this before... sound hilarious. 

[Mandalorianknight]

5 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

Yep, I really hope so. In terms of at least price pro piece ratio, it's in line with the last TIE variants. And beyond that it definitely isn't hard to believe this being a $60 set for 2020s standards. Like how is that any different than, say, this year's ARC-170? 

Ironically it's different in that after the newer leaked lists lowered the price, it's $10 cheaper than the $70 ARC-170. Once more making it difficult to believe it includes even a "smart" minifigure.

1 hour ago, BrickPrick said:

Those are some fair points, but I think stranger things have happened. To me, finally making a Boss Nass is no different than getting Lama Su or Taun We. Both not the most action oriented characters that required brand new head moulds as well. As you said, the amount of fitting sets are quite limited, so the best bet might be an anniversary or dictionary inclusion. 

Unfortunately I think the boss is less likely. We only got Lama and Taun because they got dropped into a Jedi Starfighter and Slave One respectively, both popular combat spacecraft owned by major characters. There's just nothing you can put Nass in that's on that level. TPM as a whole seriously suffers from how the movie is set up- the lack of a "cool" galactic hero faction (Respectfully kids are not out here army building the naboo security or gungan army) really hurts the set potential, as does the fact that there's only two playscale-set-makeable droid vehicles involved that show up in the clone wars. 

I think sets in general are expected to do better if they have appeal outside recreating the specific scene- a TIE fighter or AT-TE can be used for plausible storytelling play anywhere in their respective eras, but there aren't as many play scenarios Anakin's Podracer or a Naboo Royal Starfighter would fit into. I think this is also one of the reasons (but not the only one) lego prefers vehicles to location-locked playsets- Yoda's hut is great but there's only so many scenarios you can realistically play out there. A similar thing holds true for noncombat vehicles- Anakin's Podracer doesn't fit into as many star wars play patterns. I know technically speaking with enough creativity any vehicle fits anywhere in the timeline, but I know when I was a kid I liked to imagine when I played that my stories took place during the clone wars, or the galactic civil war, or after ROTJ. I think most kids play that way, too- at least most kids I personally know have their collections split between "clones and droids" and "rebels and stormtroopers". 

I may be Swordy-ing a situation that doesn't actually require this level of analysis, and I'm sure being sword'ied about what I mean about set archtypes that sell in terms of lore applications would be helpful, but I think my general point that TPM doesn't have much bestselling set material and Boss Nass suffering from that gets across well enough.

2 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Yeah these people bother me, I hate modern clones and stormtroopers so I simply don't buy any sets with them. I try even not to complain about them too much but modern LSW just takes L after L, I don't have much good things to say about the theme these days.

Far be it from me to lecture someone on excessive negativity about the state of lego star wars, but in this case, are you sure your personal negativity isn't impacting how you think they sell? I've talked about this before as something that won't do well long-term regardless of the specific design, I'm confident that the clone frenzy is a bubble that's going to pop if lego keeps flooding the market with more, but it's undeniable that there's some significant demand. Clearly at the very least, lego BELIEVES they're selling well- if they really thought switching back to the 2014 style printing for future sets would bring sales up by a statistically significant amount, they would, it's not like it would cost more money for them to do so.

Edited October 17 by Mandalorianknight

[Zap Rowsdower]

4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Unfortunately I think the boss is less likely. We only got Lama and Taun because they got dropped into a Jedi Starfighter and Slave One respectively, both popular combat spacecraft owned by major characters. There's just nothing you can put Nass in that's on that level. TPM as a whole seriously suffers from how the movie is set up- the lack of a "cool" galactic hero faction (Respectfully kids are not out here army building the naboo security or gungan army) really hurts the set potential, as does the fact that there's only two playscale-set-makeable droid vehicles involved that show up in the clone wars. 

The Phantom Menace is really the odd duck of the franchise. The invasion of Naboo is pretty low stakes in the grand scheme of galactic conflicts. It's also separated from Attack of the Clones by about a decade in-universe. There is not a lot of lore that happens between the two movies. *Phantom Menace* is almost a self-contained story disconnected from the rest of the saga.

Personally, I'd love some Naboo Security guard sets. Outside of the obvious Naboo Starfighter, Flash Speeders or Gian Speeders could make good sets. They'd fit in a somewhat mid pricerange and their bright colors would help them pop on the shelf. Lego has shown a willingness to make more obscure vehicles if they're cool enough or have good playability.

Of course, if we get Naboo security vehicles, they should also have something to fight (because they're otherwise be out-of-place with other sets). Trade Federation Troop Carriers, Landing Ships, MTTs, Vulture Droids, AATs, or a Neimoidian Shuttle would all be welcome. These ships would necessitate figures more interesting than basic Battle droids.

Not sure how this Boss Ness conversation came up.

Edited October 17 by Zap Rowsdower

[CloneCommando99]

12 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

67th legion battle pack?

 

I swear to megablucking Tie Avenger (Day #176)

All I hear these days at my cadet unit are the screams of that foul number. At least Aslume language were funny distortions of established characters. This is just too random and meaningless to pass as the comedy it does. How did society go from Monty Python to this?

12 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

What if the 666 piece set includes Abeloth or new Devaronians?

You joke. But buildable Abeloth legitimately has a nonzero chance of releasing next year.

Introducing the brand new Lego Eldritch Horror collection:

• Absolute Joker
• Absolute Killer Croc
• Abeloth
• 6160 unarmoured Reed Richards

16 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Wake me up in time for the M&G and Ahsoka S2 sets!

Don’t forget Rogue One 10th Anniversary and Andor sets!!!

 

11 hours ago, Llewop said:

I’ve been a bit out of the loop with SW news been focusing more on my castle collection as it brings me more peace and satisfaction these days. Have there been any more leaks since we got peak at that hideous x wing. 

Oddly enough, no. Hopefully that’s rectified with May and March set names soon.

On 10/15/2025 at 7:15 PM, Swordy said:

I love spacetoopers. Their reveal in HttE was unbelievably epic.

Gotta love the evil Power Miners.

Edited October 17 by CloneCommando99

[Zap Rowsdower]

12 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

What if the 666 piece set includes Abeloth or new Devaronians?

It's obviously a YV-666 light freighter.

Finally getting Bossk and the Hound's Tooth.

Heck, throw in the whole Krayt crew

Edited October 17 by Zap Rowsdower

[Renny The Spaceman]

9 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

Ha, 50 bucks for such a set for Lego Star Wars in the year 2025? Not a chance! Maybe a decade or so ago. 

Mad, insane how it's just normal to you guys. I could not be a consistent fan of this theme, genuinely commendable (or maybe just worrying) how you all stick with it through the 90 quid Grievous Star Fighters and the Smart bricks and such. 

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Unfortunately I think the boss is less likely. We only got Lama and Taun because they got dropped into a Jedi Starfighter and Slave One respectively, both popular combat spacecraft owned by major characters. There's just nothing you can put Nass in that's on that level. TPM as a whole seriously suffers from how the movie is set up- the lack of a "cool" galactic hero faction (Respectfully kids are not out here army building the naboo security or gungan army) really hurts the set potential, as does the fact that there's only two playscale-set-makeable droid vehicles involved that show up in the clone wars. 

I think sets in general are expected to do better if they have appeal outside recreating the specific scene- a TIE fighter or AT-TE can be used for plausible storytelling play anywhere in their respective eras, but there aren't as many play scenarios Anakin's Podracer or a Naboo Royal Starfighter would fit into. I think this is also one of the reasons (but not the only one) lego prefers vehicles to location-locked playsets- Yoda's hut is great but there's only so many scenarios you can realistically play out there. A similar thing holds true for noncombat vehicles- Anakin's Podracer doesn't fit into as many star wars play patterns. I know technically speaking with enough creativity any vehicle fits anywhere in the timeline, but I know when I was a kid I liked to imagine when I played that my stories took place during the clone wars, or the galactic civil war, or after ROTJ. I think most kids play that way, too- at least most kids I personally know have their collections split between "clones and droids" and "rebels and stormtroopers". 

I may be Swordy-ing a situation that doesn't actually require this level of analysis, and I'm sure being sword'ied about what I mean about set archtypes that sell in terms of lore applications would be helpful, but I think my general point that TPM doesn't have much bestselling set material and Boss Nass suffering from that gets across well enough.

Entirely anecdotally this was my experience as a kid too. I didn't mind the Naboo characters, I quite liked my classic Naboo Pilot and Trooper figures but they always served as support characters to build out whatever narrative I was playing with the Rebels or Clones being the main focus. I think this is a big part of why Clones seem to be the best selling faction for playsets too is they're an infinitely massable army, who can serve easily as good guys or bad guys who gets to both have all the iconography of Stormtroopers while also being way more customisable making it easy for kids to distinguish and make characters from them.

9 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

Those are some fair points, but I think stranger things have happened. To me, finally making a Boss Nass is no different than getting Lama Su or Taun We. Both not the most action oriented characters that required brand new head moulds as well. As you said, the amount of fitting sets are quite limited, so the best bet might be an anniversary or dictionary inclusion. 

Yeah, I don't think it's never gonna happen as he's quite a prominent figure in a movie they used to do quite a lot of sets for, and he can easily be thrown in to any Naboo set like the Kamino people but he requires new parts so a book is unlikely. He's probably in a similar boat Cody was for ages where you could easily throw him into a lot of sets based on the movie but you need to find away to justify a mold for this character that while notable is believed to not be able to sell a set on their own. Cody ofc proved he could sell a set and that leads us to where we are today with Clonemania so who knows, maybe Boss Nass fever is imminent and just needs to wait it's turn 

3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Gotta love the evil Power Miners.

Yeah, they gotta include them in a set, I think they should have their own aesthetic away from the Empire, it'd make them stand out as the most elite. They could have some sorta land vehicle to help them excavate some sorta power source from whatever world they're stationed on. They'd need to have some rebels to fight so maybe some type of rock creatures, they could have some specialized parts so you could make them eat the Miner's heads. And to get the price down LEGO could just remove the Star Wars branding from the box and sell it as it's own theme. That'd be great.

3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

All I hear these days at my cadet unit are the screams of that foul number. At least Aslume language were funny distortions of established characters. This is just too random and meaningless to pass as the comedy it does. How did society go from Monty Python to this?

Gonna risk being drowned in tea and baked beans for this but have you had conversation with a Monty Python fan? Hilarious series, hilarious movies but ngl endless, tangentially related (at best) to the conversation repetition is kinda their bread and butter, probably is a direct link in how meme culture formulated and their role as defining absurdist comedy that could be packaged into endlessly repeatable quotes.

10 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

I literally have never heard about this before... sound hilarious. 

I wanna see one of those extended RotS edits splice that in. Use a picture of him then do the clutch cargo thing and superimpose someone's real mouth onto him to make him say it. Then the ending credits has a Brian Blessed cover of the Edwin Starr song 

[BrickPrick]

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Ironically it's different in that after the newer leaked lists lowered the price, it's $10 cheaper than the $70 ARC-170. Once more making it difficult to believe it includes even a "smart" minifigure.

Unfortunately I think the boss is less likely. We only got Lama and Taun because they got dropped into a Jedi Starfighter and Slave One respectively, both popular combat spacecraft owned by major characters. There's just nothing you can put Nass in that's on that level. TPM as a whole seriously suffers from how the movie is set up- the lack of a "cool" galactic hero faction (Respectfully kids are not out here army building the naboo security or gungan army) really hurts the set potential, as does the fact that there's only two playscale-set-makeable droid vehicles involved that show up in the clone wars. 

I think sets in general are expected to do better if they have appeal outside recreating the specific scene- a TIE fighter or AT-TE can be used for plausible storytelling play anywhere in their respective eras, but there aren't as many play scenarios Anakin's Podracer or a Naboo Royal Starfighter would fit into. I think this is also one of the reasons (but not the only one) lego prefers vehicles to location-locked playsets- Yoda's hut is great but there's only so many scenarios you can realistically play out there. A similar thing holds true for noncombat vehicles- Anakin's Podracer doesn't fit into as many star wars play patterns. I know technically speaking with enough creativity any vehicle fits anywhere in the timeline, but I know when I was a kid I liked to imagine when I played that my stories took place during the clone wars, or the galactic civil war, or after ROTJ. I think most kids play that way, too- at least most kids I personally know have their collections split between "clones and droids" and "rebels and stormtroopers". 

I may be Swordy-ing a situation that doesn't actually require this level of analysis, and I'm sure being sword'ied about what I mean about set archtypes that sell in terms of lore applications would be helpful, but I think my general point that TPM doesn't have much bestselling set material and Boss Nass suffering from that gets across well enough.

Yeah, as of right now, there is obviously gonna be a $10 price gap between the two sets. But even if they were the exact same price, it wouldn't be hard to believe the Advanced came with no tacked on smart bricks stuff. Lego price policies are like crime scene investigations: very dynamic. So we'll see.

In terms of just character relevance, I think they are all pretty similar. Next to no kid will remember their obscure Kaminoans or Boss Nass... if they're even aware of them. I like to look at this angle: if there was no Taun We included in the Starfighter, would anyone have bated an eyelash? Probably not. Would not have been the first $35 Jedi Starfighter to only include two figures. But for some reason, Lego included an expensive minifigure when they definitely didn't have to. That's gotta count for something. Same thing could happen for Boss Nass. Yet this is just one way at looking at things. Another is the accompanied sets and I absolutely agree... Episode II has some obvious advantages in terms of mass marketing appeal over TPM. Making a Boss Nass less likely than the recently released Taun and Lama.

Yep, this ties into what I just said. A lot of kids take their imagination where the action is, rather than the other way around. Limited action might mean limited play. In that sense, TPM is just the least attracting PT option to release new sets. That's why I see Boss Nass as more likely (still fairly unlikely) to be included as a bonus figure in one of those visual dictionaries. They may have never made a new mould for one of those inclusions, but it ain't long ago when we said the same thing about Microfighters (Plo Koon). Just saying Lego's mindset revolves less around just delivering a toy for children than they used to. Due to numerous remakes, they tend to sprinkle in that occasional brand new figure targeted at adult collectors. 

Oh please, don't get me started with that swordy guy. 

Just want to clarify... I know my Boss Nass predictions are somewhat on the optimistic side. Wishful thinking will do that to you. Yet even I don't think he will happen until the next decade. But if you asked me about him officially getting made now versus just a couple of years ago... Then yeah, I am much more confident in the idea he will materialize. It's no longer just a pipe dream to me anymore.

[BrickBob Studpants]

The issue is definitely not Boss Nass himself. Just throw him in the next Gungan sub or TPM MTT and we‘re golden  We‘ve had obscure non-combative minifigs with new pieces before, and Boss Nass is far from obscure, so that‘s not a good excuse.

The issue is probably TPM itself. TPM sets tend to feature Maul or podracing rather than anything Naboo-related, similar to how AotC sets tend to focus on Obi-Wan, Jango, and the Battle of Geonosis over scenes like the Zam Wesell chase (still mad at TLG for cancelling that remake in 2020!)

[BrickPrick]

6 hours ago, Zap Rowsdower said:

Not sure how this Boss Ness conversation came up.

Depending oh how you want to look at this topic being talked about, you can either thank or blame me for that. 

2 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Mad, insane how it's just normal to you guys. I could not be a consistent fan of this theme, genuinely commendable (or maybe just worrying) how you all stick with it through the 90 quid Grievous Star Fighters and the Smart bricks and such. 

Yeah, I don't think it's never gonna happen as he's quite a prominent figure in a movie they used to do quite a lot of sets for, and he can easily be thrown in to any Naboo set like the Kamino people but he requires new parts so a book is unlikely. He's probably in a similar boat Cody was for ages where you could easily throw him into a lot of sets based on the movie but you need to find away to justify a mold for this character that while notable is believed to not be able to sell a set on their own. Cody ofc proved he could sell a set and that leads us to where we are today with Clonemania so who knows, maybe Boss Nass fever is imminent and just needs to wait it's turn 

I wanna see one of those extended RotS edits splice that in. Use a picture of him then do the clutch cargo thing and superimpose someone's real mouth onto him to make him say it. Then the ending credits has a Brian Blessed cover of the Edwin Starr song 

Eh, after some time you just sorta get hardened and used to all these crazy numbers... you start to laugh at them. However, how you wanna deal with that, is, of course, to each and everyone to decide. In my case, if the quality isn't there at all or the set just doesn't interest me thematically, I don't get it regardless of the pricing. And if it is to my liking, I get it for the right price later down the road, which is never a problem at my place. Although, given that some sets receive even more aggressive price points, you wait a little longer than you typically would be. But at the end of the day, nothing really changes for me. As the choices obviously remain your own.

Yeah, if only enough people would root for an official Boss Nass minifigure as they were campaigning for Commander Cody, it would only be a matter of time. But somehow, I doubt this will happen at all. Wouldn't say no to it... but I wanna remain halfway realistic, even when trying to willing something into existence. 

Better yet, you put Boss Nass into a Diorama and put "WAAAAAR" onto the quote plaque. 

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

The issue is definitely not Boss Nass himself. Just throw him in the next Gungan sub or TPM MTT and we‘re golden  We‘ve had obscure non-combative minifigs with new pieces before, and Boss Nass is far from obscure, so that‘s not a good excuse.

The issue is probably TPM itself. TPM sets tend to feature Maul or podracing rather than anything Naboo-related, similar to how AotC sets tend to focus on Obi-Wan, Jango, and the Battle of Geonosis over scenes like the Zam Wesell chase (still mad at TLG for cancelling that remake in 2020!)

That's a good differentiated take to look at it. Boss Nass as a character is probably less of a problem than his TPM origins. And the fact that Lego limits down certain episodes to just a handful of sets and characters was displayed in full force last year. They could have given us anything new (not related to other formats) after all this time, but they didn't. They played it rather safe. 

[Renny The Spaceman]

40 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

Yeah, if only enough people would root for an official Boss Nass minifigure as they were campaigning for Commander Cody, it would only be a matter of time. But somehow, I doubt this will happen at all. Wouldn't say no to it... but I wanna remain halfway realistic, even when trying to willing something into existence. 

Tragic, Boss Nass nation has yet to be built 

41 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

Eh, after some time you just sorta get hardened and used to all these crazy numbers... you start to laugh at them. However, how you wanna deal with that, is, of course, to each and everyone to decide. In my case, if the quality isn't there at all or the set just doesn't interest me thematically, I don't get it regardless of the pricing. And if it is to my liking, I get it for the right price later down the road, which is never a problem at my place. Although, given that some sets receive even more aggressive price points, you wait a little longer than you typically would be. But at the end of the day, nothing really changes for me. As the choices obviously remain your own.

yeah, the few sets I want I'm very content to be patient and snag when a good deal forms. Can't imagine being a day one buyer, let alone a day one army builder.
 

44 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

Better yet, you put Boss Nass into a Diorama and put "WAAAAAR" onto the quote plaque. 

Better yet, Smart Boss Nass figure who says "WAAAAR!" at random intervals at a very loud volume (you cannot turn him off)

My favourite thing about this dumb theory from like 2004 is it's technically not that far off, the movie does open with a loud proclamation of "War!" I remember there was a fan reading for ages the title crawls were R2 telling the story of the Star Wars, maybe they were just a little off, maybe Boss Nass is the secret narrator of the whole saga 

[Darth_Bane13]

14 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Far be it from me to lecture someone on excessive negativity about the state of lego star wars, but in this case, are you sure your personal negativity isn't impacting how you think they sell? I've talked about this before as something that won't do well long-term regardless of the specific design, I'm confident that the clone frenzy is a bubble that's going to pop if lego keeps flooding the market with more, but it's undeniable that there's some significant demand. Clearly at the very least, lego BELIEVES they're selling well- if they really thought switching back to the 2014 style printing for future sets would bring sales up by a statistically significant amount, they would, it's not like it would cost more money for them to do so.

I think this is a complicated topic. Lego Star Wars has always been a top selling theme because it's Star Wars, pretty much anything they release will sell. I do believe though that the better set/minifigs will sell more copies. For example if the 327th BP was 2014 style with kama's they'd sell better, perhaps not a significant enough amount though. I would say I'm pretty picky when it comes to Lego because I've been collecting for a long time and have limited space. I need to be all around satisfied with a set if I'm going to buy it, I forget not everyone is like this.

10 hours ago, Zap Rowsdower said:

The Phantom Menace is really the odd duck of the franchise. The invasion of Naboo is pretty low stakes in the grand scheme of galactic conflicts. It's also separated from Attack of the Clones by about a decade in-universe. There is not a lot of lore that happens between the two movies. *Phantom Menace* is almost a self-contained story disconnected from the rest of the saga.

This is why I've never collected many TPM Lego sets because they don't really fit anywhere in my collection. I display mostly by factions so a Naboo starfighter or Sith infiltrator wouldn't really fit anywhere. I still want the 2007 MTT though.

[Mandalorianknight]

10 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

All I hear these days at my cadet unit are the screams of that foul number. At least Aslume language were funny distortions of established characters. This is just too random and meaningless to pass as the comedy it does. How did society go from Monty Python to this?

You see, the advantage is unlike a lot of the other brain-rotted numbers, 6-7 doesn't have a school-inappropriate connotation, so there's nothing stopping you from using it in front of the kids, which is the fastest way to get the kids to stop. Nothing kills a meme for students faster than an instructor using it.

10 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

You joke. But buildable Abeloth legitimately has a nonzero chance of releasing next year.

I think 2027 will be the most likely- or an Ahsoka S3/HTTE sequel movie, as I doubt the force equivalent of the devil is defeated in a single season, so we'll see her again- but like you say, non-zero that she shows up this year in an ahsoka S2 set. Could be as simple as a minifigure of "the mother" or "Peridea hermit" or something, where it's not even a spoiler because she's not branded as Abeloth.

6 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Entirely anecdotally this was my experience as a kid too. I didn't mind the Naboo characters, I quite liked my classic Naboo Pilot and Trooper figures but they always served as support characters to build out whatever narrative I was playing with the Rebels or Clones being the main focus. I think this is a big part of why Clones seem to be the best selling faction for playsets too is they're an infinitely massable army, who can serve easily as good guys or bad guys who gets to both have all the iconography of Stormtroopers while also being way more customisable making it easy for kids to distinguish and make characters from them.

This is also one of the reasons they've been buckshotting so many legions. Partially for collectors I'm sure, but a LOT of parents don't get or like army-building as a concept and don't want to buy their kid multiples of the same set, battle pack branding or not. Flooding the market with clone battle packs fixes that issue- suddenly the kid's christmas list is like 4-8 different sets, but they're all clone battle packs.

5 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

In terms of just character relevance, I think they are all pretty similar. Next to no kid will remember their obscure Kaminoans or Boss Nass... if they're even aware of them. I like to look at this angle: if there was no Taun We included in the Starfighter, would anyone have bated an eyelash? Probably not. Would not have been the first $35 Jedi Starfighter to only include two figures. But for some reason, Lego included an expensive minifigure when they definitely didn't have to. That's gotta count for something. Same thing could happen for Boss Nass. Yet this is just one way at looking at things. Another is the accompanied sets and I absolutely agree... Episode II has some obvious advantages in terms of mass marketing appeal over TPM. Making a Boss Nass less likely than the recently released Taun and Lama.

Yup. He's not any more desirable for kids or obscure than the kaminoans, he just got saddled with a less toyetic movie.

5 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

The issue is definitely not Boss Nass himself. Just throw him in the next Gungan sub or TPM MTT and we‘re golden  We‘ve had obscure non-combative minifigs with new pieces before, and Boss Nass is far from obscure, so that‘s not a good excuse.

The issue, as you say, is the phantom menace as a whole. Even with your suggestions, we just had an MTT, so it'll likely be awhile before the next (11 years between the last two, 7 before that...) and I think there's a good chance we don't see another gungan sub for QUITE awhile.

[Renny The Spaceman]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

This is also one of the reasons they've been buckshotting so many legions. Partially for collectors I'm sure, but a LOT of parents don't get or like army-building as a concept and don't want to buy their kid multiples of the same set, battle pack branding or not. Flooding the market with clone battle packs fixes that issue- suddenly the kid's christmas list is like 4-8 different sets, but they're all clone battle packs.

Yeah, a parent can more easily recognise it's a different set by ninja turtling it and colour coding each new one. Generally I think clones may be among the most toyetic characters in the series, 

[betaplayer]

36 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Yeah, a parent can more easily recognise it's a different set by ninja turtling it and colour coding each new one. Generally I think clones may be among the most toyetic characters in the series, 

Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of the prequel era, but I agree on the general appeal for toys from that era.

Still, the same must somewhat go for OG stormtroopers: recognizable, featured in ton of media etc. And yet, Lego doesn't put out as much of readily available battlepack sets featuring stormies... (That zombie abomination from Ahsoka, doesn't, doesn't count.)

Edited October 17 by betaplayer

[Mandalorianknight]

34 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Yeah, a parent can more easily recognize it's a different set by ninja turtling it and color coding each new one. Generally I think clones may be among the most toyetic characters in the series, 

I think in terms of toy science/toy economics that's almost inarguable. Heroes and hero vehicle/locations sell better than villain ones. The cool armored faction will generally do better than spindly robots or unarmored humans/humanoids. With the OT and ST these roughly balance eachother out, but for the PT the clones are not only the good guys but the most toyetic designs. This correlates to how few separatist sets we get nowadays.

16 minutes ago, betaplayer said:

Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan if the prequel era, but I agree on the general appeal for toys from that era.

Still, the same must somewhat go for OG stormtroopers: recognizable, featured in ton of media etc. And yet, Lego does put out as much of readily available battlepack sets featuring stormies... (That zombie abomination from Ahsoka, doesn't, doesn't count.)

The same is true for imperial legions, we're just suffering from clone frenzy right now so they've taken a backseat. Though we still get some solid ones.

 

A batch of sales just hit my local walmart, and the results were kind of surprising. Logo's down to $50, which we all knew was coming and if it hits $40 I'll pick up. The 327th pack, as I predicted, managed to hit down to $36 only 2.5 months into it's life cycle, which is still far too overpriced for me to consider, but a significant discount. 
The surprising thing is that Slave One has joined the U-wing and ARC-170 in being discounted within a few months of release, now at $60. (The Arc's been at $55 for awhile, as has the U-wing at $60). What's odd is I think most of us had considered these the best sets of the year for SW, and you'd think that would correspond to sales, but it doesn't seem to have done so. Battle packs, Ahsoka's starfighter, and even the Turbo Tank have yet to be discounted around me whilst these all have- Slave One shockingly close to it's release, too, implying they've struggled to move ANY units.

[Darth_Bane13]

1 hour ago, betaplayer said:

Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of the prequel era, but I agree on the general appeal for toys from that era.

Still, the same must somewhat go for OG stormtroopers: recognizable, featured in ton of media etc. And yet, Lego doesn't put out as much of readily available battlepack sets featuring stormies... (That zombie abomination from Ahsoka, doesn't, doesn't count.)

I think clones are more popular than stormtroopers because we connect with them as characters.

[Seagull King of Vaughan]

21 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

(Respectfully kids are not out here army building the naboo security or gungan army)

A bit late, but I had that dream as a kid… got as far as Captain Panaka, two guards and a half-dozen of pilots. Also a small Gungan army of five minifigures to support them. I would have gladly taken Boss Nass at that age (and Queen Amidala, who I missed back in 2012). I will admit to being the exception here though!

58 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I think clones are more popular than stormtroopers because we connect with them as characters.

This is true, but also; I can’t think of anything but a few novels (now in Legends) that gave any focus to stormtrooper characters. Probably a few comics as well. But nothing to the scale of The Clone Wars (2008). There’s nothing to base a set off in the first place, no focus story or memorable plot. The Imperial minifigures everyone looks forward to are officers, in my experience.

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I think clones are more popular than stormtroopers because we connect with them as characters.

For select members of the 501st and then the Bad Batch, maybe. Obviously kids are going to identify more with protagonists than enemy ranks. But take this year for example. Nobody's waxing poetic about Bly or Bacara's character development.

1 hour ago, Seagull King of Vaughan said:

A bit late, but I had that dream as a kid… got as far as Captain Panaka, two guards and a half-dozen of pilots. Also a small Gungan army of five minifigures to support them. I would have gladly taken Boss Nass at that age (and Queen Amidala, who I missed back in 2012). I will admit to being the exception here though!

This is true, but also; I can’t think of anything but a few novels (now in Legends) that gave any focus to stormtrooper characters. Probably a few comics as well. But nothing to the scale of The Clone Wars (2008). There’s nothing to base a set off in the first place, no focus story or memorable plot. The Imperial minifigures everyone looks forward to are officers, in my experience.

There's always an exception, no disrespect to you or your army. I tried to army-build Jawas as a kid. And I've successfully built quite a stash of rebel fleet troopers, although I feel like that's more standard, they are kinda the main uniformed forces for the rebellion.

The Allegiance/Choices duology is the best stormtrooper-focused story I can think of, and the only one where the protagonists are stormtroopers who don't almost immediately join the rebels and instead continue to serve the empire. (kind of) But as you say, that's a few legends novels, not a cartoon aimed at kids. Not many grew up with it.

Edited October 17 by Mandalorianknight

[Darth_Bane13]

3 hours ago, Seagull King of Vaughan said:

A bit late, but I had that dream as a kid… got as far as Captain Panaka, two guards and a half-dozen of pilots. Also a small Gungan army of five minifigures to support them. I would have gladly taken Boss Nass at that age (and Queen Amidala, who I missed back in 2012). I will admit to being the exception here though!

This is true, but also; I can’t think of anything but a few novels (now in Legends) that gave any focus to stormtrooper characters. Probably a few comics as well. But nothing to the scale of The Clone Wars (2008). There’s nothing to base a set off in the first place, no focus story or memorable plot. The Imperial minifigures everyone looks forward to are officers, in my experience.

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

For select members of the 501st and then the Bad Batch, maybe. Obviously kids are going to identify more with protagonists than enemy ranks. But take this year for example. Nobody's waxing poetic about Bly or Bacara's character development.

There's always an exception, no disrespect to you or your army. I tried to army-build Jawas as a kid. And I've successfully built quite a stash of rebel fleet troopers, although I feel like that's more standard, they are kinda the main uniformed forces for the rebellion.

The Allegiance/Choices duology is the best stormtrooper-focused story I can think of, and the only one where the protagonists are stormtroopers who don't almost immediately join the rebels and instead continue to serve the empire. (kind of) But as you say, that's a few legends novels, not a cartoon aimed at kids. Not many grew up with it.

Clones are also more varied due to the different styles so that makes them more collectable, I think them being colorful makes them more interesting to kids too.

 

I'd love to see more people build unique armies like Jawa's or Naboo. Clone armies have gotten quite stale, we've all seen them enough times. 

[Darth Malgus]

2 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Clones are also more varied due to the different styles so that makes them more collectable, I think them being colorful makes them more interesting to kids too.

 

I'd love to see more people build unique armies like Jawa's or Naboo. Clone armies have gotten quite stale, we've all seen them enough times. 

I think it depends what you do with them though. I recently did a MOC for a show using Ahsoka's clones not many but the orange accent allowed for some great foliage work tying the figure and plant together. That said I didn't flood my MOC with them, only used around 6 - 8.

[CloneCommando99]

9 hours ago, betaplayer said:

Still, the same must somewhat go for OG stormtroopers: recognizable, featured in ton of media etc. And yet, Lego doesn't put out as much of readily available battlepack sets featuring stormies... (That zombie abomination from Ahsoka, doesn't, doesn't count.)

100%. We also currently have no imperial ground vehicles on shelves.

The empire is in a bit of a slump at the moment. But it can be fixed with 3 sets: Tie Avenger (Day #177 of asking for one), a AT ST or ITT and a versatile Imperial Battlepack.

 

13 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

You see, the advantage is unlike a lot of the other brain-rotted numbers, 6-7 doesn't have a school-inappropriate connotation, so there's nothing stopping you from using it in front of the kids, which is the fastest way to get the kids to stop. Nothing kills a meme for students faster than an instructor using it.

I think 2027 will be the most likely- or an Ahsoka S3/HTTE sequel movie, as I doubt the force equivalent of the devil is defeated in a single season, so we'll see her again- but like you say, non-zero that she shows up this year in an ahsoka S2 set. Could be as simple as a minifigure of "the mother" or "Peridea hermit" or something, where it's not even a spoiler because she's not branded as Abeloth.

You see, I already tried that. But the brain rot is uniquely strong with this one.

True. I hope we get some decent Imperial Remnant vs New Republic sets out of season 2 in 2026 at least. I’m assuming we’ll only get 2-3 though because of there being 2 plot lines (Peridia and Thrawn’s campaign) so at most we’d probably get 1 set for Peridia shenanigans, 1 Imperial set and a New Republic set (betting A-Wing.) Maybe a NR BP too.

 

A pair of NR and Imperial Army BPs next year would be amazing.

 

[Renny The Spaceman]

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

 And I've successfully built quite a stash of rebel fleet troopers, although I feel like that's more standard, they are kinda the main uniformed forces for the rebellion.

I did the same as a kid, they had the second hero battlepack ever, I don't think that one's odd tbh

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

For select members of the 501st and then the Bad Batch, maybe. Obviously kids are going to identify more with protagonists than enemy ranks. But take this year for example. Nobody's waxing poetic about Bly or Bacara's character development.

Connecting with something as a a character isn't limited to development or deep character work (The Bad Batch have neither) it also can just come from just the humanity of something being reinforced. That's never gonna happen with Stormtroopers as that goes against the point of them but the general humanity of the clones as a whole is something repeatedly reinforced in most Star Wars animated shows but also just in the design, the fact they have very vibrant and loud colours not assigned from higher ups to depict rank but chosen by the Clones to represent the people they serve with inherently makes them read as a more human and relatable but also gets the imagination going. The three orange lines on Cody's chest, for example, evokes a sunburst. There's no big dialogue or character development about that but you see that pattern and your brain automatically starts filling in the blanks "he lived on a storm planet, whenever he saw a sunrise for the first time that was probably life changing so he chose to immortalise that moment on his armour" because every clone legion's armour is randomly painted in ways irrelevant to rank or anything formal when you see anyone there's a subconscious idea running that they chose to look this way, there's gotta be reasons even if as small as "they like yellow" and that inherently creates more of a connection than: the Shock Trooper's wear red, the Mortar ones wear yellow and so on.
 

Then you add on the fact that any generic clone can have a backpack or antenna or visor or those cool binoculars (and if a set comes with one it always has a spare) it once again humanises them because the toys are designed to ask kids to turn these generic troops into fully fleshed out characters so it doesn't matter if the glup shitto legion has a personality in story because the story says every clone has personality then they toy gives kids additional elements to emphasise that and that engenders a connection in a way that even if you did a seven season show about a group of specific Stormtroopers having personality and developing as characters you couldn't replicate.

[CallumPears]

On 10/16/2025 at 10:40 PM, Darth_Bane13 said:

Yeah these people bother me, I hate modern clones and stormtroopers so I simply don't buy any sets with them. I try even not to complain about them too much but modern LSW just takes L after L, I don't have much good things to say about the theme these days.

Yeah this is me too tbh. 

Subjectively, I don't like the new Stormtrooper helmets (6 years is still "new", right? ...wait I just realised that the Family Guy helmet has now had a longer lifespan than the 2014 design ever did ) or the TCW animation style they incorporate on modern Clone minifigures rather than them being in the realistic movie-accurate style, and objectively there are just so many unacceptable mistakes with modern figures, especially Clones (I've ranted enough about them in the past but, ignoring stylistic choices such as the design template or printed kamas, things like the mistakes on Bly are just so obvious and any competent designer could've fixed them in seconds with very little effort). 

I'm pretty much done with army-building anyway now. I've already got plenty of Clones and Stormtroopers in the older styles so as far as modern releases go I'm only interested in getting 'special' figures which LEGO did a good job with, like Lama Su or Saw Gererra, and builds I particularly like (e.g. the E-wing or V-19 Torrent, both of which I got cheap on eBay without minifigures) but it's pretty rare for a set to have me wanting both the figures and the build (the V-19 does have the nice TCW Obi-Wan so might get a 2nd one if it has a good discount, and the U-wing would probably tempt me if I didn't already have the 2016 version). 

It's interesting that outside of Stormtroopers the modern Imperial figures have been pretty great. A couple of issues like the Snowtroopers not having backpacks and Thrawn having the wrong number of code cylinders, but e.g. Scout Troopers and the Imperial Commandos from the Mandalorian are absolutely perfect. 

On 10/17/2025 at 1:19 AM, Mandalorianknight said:

A similar thing holds true for noncombat vehicles- Anakin's Podracer doesn't fit into as many star wars play patterns

Got the original Anakin's podracer as a kid. Nice set, but as all the other podracers were extremely hard to get there were basically no scenarios where I could actually play with it. 

I think podracers would be perfect for the 2-pack sets we get more often nowadays, like they did in 2011 with Anakin's and Sebulba's. 

On 10/17/2025 at 1:19 AM, Mandalorianknight said:

(Respectfully kids are not out here army building the naboo security or gungan army)

Unironically one of my most-wanted figures for them to make when I was a kid was the version of Naboo guards with the dark-orange tunic and black helmet. Idk why I always liked them. Had a go at making custom ones using the helmets from the 2008 Imperial Navy Troopers but could never settle on a suitable torso. 

7 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

A pair of NR and Imperial Army BPs next year would be amazing

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LEGO I BEG YOU HIRE THIS MAN

TIE Avenger and these 2 battle packs would make me never complain about anything ever again 

Also would love a TIE Reaper or a Cargo Shuttle (ideally both but we know they'd never be so generous) for the Rogue One anniversary. Just more Imperial vehicles in general really.

Edited October 18 by CallumPears

[Darth_Bane13]

8 hours ago, Darth Malgus said:

I think it depends what you do with them though. I recently did a MOC for a show using Ahsoka's clones not many but the orange accent allowed for some great foliage work tying the figure and plant together. That said I didn't flood my MOC with them, only used around 6 - 8.

Yeah for sure, I'm talking about the people who just buy 20 of the current battle pack and stick them on a baseplate. Obviously people can spend their money how they want, I just personally find niche armies a little more interesting.

1 hour ago, CallumPears said:

Yeah this is me too tbh. 

Subjectively, I don't like the new Stormtrooper helmets (6 years is still "new", right? ...wait I just realised that the Family Guy helmet has now had a longer lifespan than the 2014 design ever did ) or the TCW animation style they incorporate on modern Clone minifigures rather than them being in the realistic movie-accurate style, and objectively there are just so many unacceptable mistakes with modern figures, especially Clones (I've ranted enough about them in the past but, ignoring stylistic choices such as the design template or printed kamas, things like the mistakes on Bly are just so obvious and any competent designer could've fixed them in seconds with very little effort). 

I'm pretty much done with army-building anyway now. I've already got plenty of Clones and Stormtroopers in the older styles so as far as modern releases go I'm only interested in getting 'special' figures which LEGO did a good job with, like Lama Su or Saw Gererra, and builds I particularly like (e.g. the E-wing or V-19 Torrent, both of which I got cheap on eBay without minifigures) but it's pretty rare for a set to have me wanting both the figures and the build (the V-19 does have the nice TCW Obi-Wan so might get a 2nd one if it has a good discount, and the U-wing would probably tempt me if I didn't already have the 2016 version). 

It's interesting that outside of Stormtroopers the modern Imperial figures have been pretty great. A couple of issues like the Snowtroopers not having backpacks and Thrawn having the wrong number of code cylinders, but e.g. Scout Troopers and the Imperial Commandos from the Mandalorian are absolutely perfect. 

Yeah I've noticed it's pretty rare for a set to have both a good build and figures these days. The Snowtroopers bother me because they had them perfect in 2014. I definitely regret not getting more imperial and clone BPs from that era, I didn't realize they'd be so bad now.