Mandalorianknight Posted October 15 Posted October 15 (edited) 4 hours ago, Swordy said: Nay, my good man. The British tea is as black as the hearts of those in 1700s Parliament, who enslaved their subjects across the British Empire through exuberant taxation, while our freedom in American opened up the convection of tea as sweet as our liberty. (Maybe too sweet, even by our people’s standards, but all the same.) You overestimate TLG. The set will only feature Grogu, and the vehicle will vaguely look like Mando; a visual representation of the reality of Din Djarin’s character at this point. Call me out for my addiction to hopium, (that is a really dark joke come to think of it…) but I’m curious if Motti or Tagge could show in the Advanced. Granted, it might do TLG better to adapt the Conference Room in the $1K DS as its own diorama. I’d be down for just Tarkin in the Advanced—any more figs from the DS would make it the absolute dream set. I think that might be one too many smart figs in one set. I think “smart” Vader at least will be in the Advanced—particularly if both sets are meant to tie in to each other—and maybe a “smart” stormtrooper too. As much as these will inflate LSW prices beyond belief, I’m warming up to the idea of a “smart” Artoo that beeps or a Vader with breathing sound effect. Undoubtedly, though, they’ll include “storytelling” sounds and lights as well (specific quotes or sound effects during interaction) which is detrimental to play. I know as a kid I hated sound effects if they told me how the story was supposed to go, instead of enhancing my imagination. Of course, a Vader toy breathing on loop would only drain the batteries, and after the sound effects go away, the kid would play with the “smart” Vader as any other toy, no matter how expensive it was. What about that one poor deputy whom Cad shot through a dozen times? I demand he gets a figure! (Tusken is likely; I’m shocked we haven’t seen one since, wha, ‘22?) Once again, you overestimate TLG. The set will only include Mando, and the main feature will be the buildable Grogu overshadowing and enveloping the Mandalorian character; a visual representation of the reality of Din Djarin’s character thanks to Disney. Yep. Fives in the shock trooper mech, right? Lowkey hyped for the BP. I don’t mind 332nds on their own, but Maul Mandos are always fire. Looking forward to see how the figures look. I love spacetoopers. Their reveal in HttE was unbelievably epic. Has it? TIEs, sure, have been retconned in the Disney era, but technically the Executor hasn’t—unless you count video games, but those have always been considered lower canon than the movies (not to disparage the wonderful stories found there, of course). If we’re going to debate current over it’s adherence to Luke Skywalker’s character according to George Lucas, then why not the intentional decisions of ILM within G-Level canon? Peak. Don't step on the snake, or the tea ends up in the harbor. (My John Walker helmet arrived today, probably totally unrelated to any inclinations regarding dislike of british tea) Yeah, I think unfortunately the Advanced probably gets saddled with a smart figure (But again, such a reasonable $60 for 473 pieces price in 2025 makes me think it won't have anything more than a few mario-style scannable stickers). I'd hope we get multiple named officers, but even tarkin is probably wishful thinking. Tusken would also open up a Bantha side build, and I can't imagine they oversize Cobb's speeder that much so I assume it'll be the third figure. Deputy Slowdraw feels unlikely given his unfortunate demise in that scene and that he'd require new prints whereas the tusken could be re-used. Good comments on how the TMAG sets will convey the thematic degradation of the characters, I should have thought this through more. The Thrawn Trilogy Spacetroopers are epic, though unfortunately the ones in A New Hope are a lot more similar to normal stormtroopers than imperial Halo Spartans that can 1v1 the millennium falcon. Good point, the executor hasn't been retconned yet. Though given all other imperial ships have been concretely redefined as LBG, I'd assume if it ever shows back up it too will be drained of it's blue hue. 2 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said: Mmm, maybe you should have phrased this differently I think it was an intentional play on some other interesting moves by british tea interests 2 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: genuinely disliked by most people Then why does lego keep making more of them? Why do clone bros keep buying them in comical quantities? 2 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: have not gone up in price I don't even know how you'd be measuring this given that most legions in the new style are still on shelves and the few of these sets that have retired have been replaced by more sets with clones of the same legion, but in the one or two cases where you can start to measure increase post-retirement, I think Bricklink would disagree. The 187th set for instance, which doesn't even feature a canon legion, has definitely gone up. (This one specifically I've been watching because I have a sealed copy of the set I presumably purchased at some point and am trying to find when to sell). Edited October 15 by Mandalorianknight Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: Then why does lego keep making more of them? Why do clone bros keep buying them in comical quantities? I don't even know how you'd be measuring this given that most legions in the new style are still on shelves and the few of these sets that have retired have been replaced by more sets with clones of the same legion, but in the one or two cases where you can start to measure increase post-retirement, I think Bricklink would disagree. The 187th set for instance, which doesn't even feature a canon legion, has definitely gone up. (This one specifically I've been watching because I have a sealed copy of the set I presumably purchased at some point and am trying to find when to sell). I shouldn't of have said most dislike them, but a good chunk of LSW fans do not. There has been a lot of backlash to the new clones this summer, I don't think people are buying many of the 327th set. My point with this is that I believe people are genuine when they say they don't like modern clones, they aren't telling their fans not to buy them, so they can sell them for profit in 10 years. This doesn't even make sense, and assumes people are morons who can't think for themselves and blindly listen to influencers. 187th didn't have helmet holes, it also has not gone up in price, check Bricklink. My reasons for why they wont go up much in the future is because so many more people are collecting/investing in clone stuff now, there will be high supply and likely low demand assuming we continue getting clones in the future and they can't really get worse than they are now. The reason 2014 clones are worth so much is due to low supply (less investors in 2014) and high demand (due to how great figures they are). These 2022-2025 clones are the worst ones ever produced, I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually get better clones, if not then there will continue being a high supply and thus low value. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said: 187th didn't have helmet holes, it also has not gone up in price, check Bricklink. My reasons for why they wont go up much in the future is because so many more people are collecting/investing in clone stuff now, there will be high supply and likely low demand assuming we continue getting clones in the future and they can't really get worse than they are now. The reason 2014 clones are worth so much is due to low supply (less investors in 2014) and high demand (due to how great figures they are). These 2022-2025 clones are the worst ones ever produced, I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually get better clones, if not then there will continue being a high supply and thus low value. I don't know what data you're seeing, but I can assure you I've been following this and the price of the tank set, and the troopers, is more now than it used to be. Bricklink generally only shows data for the last six months, but from the bit of earlier data it provides you can see that the average price for both new AND used is higher than in the dataset from 2023/24. (Aside from New in January 2023, which is an outlier due to only having a single sale recorded in the entire month) Also, if you're putting helmet holes as the cutoff, there's literally no data you can realistically draw from? There's barely any sets with helmet-holed clones that have officially retired, and the few that have still have plenty of copies on shelves at walmarts and targets. Of course the price hasn't gone up when you can go to your local outlet and buy the set they came in at MSRP. Edited October 16 by Mandalorianknight Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 14 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: I don't know what data you're seeing, but I can assure you I've been following this and the price of the tank set, and the troopers, is more now than it used to be. Bricklink generally only shows data for the last six months, but from the bit of earlier data it provides you can see that the average price for both new AND used is higher than in the dataset from 2023/24. (Aside from New in January 2023, which is an outlier due to only having a single sale recorded in the entire month) Also, if you're putting helmet holes as the cutoff, there's literally no data you can realistically draw from? There's barely any sets with helmet-holed clones that have officially retired, and the few that have still have plenty of copies on shelves at walmarts and targets. Of course the price hasn't gone up when you can go to your local outlet and buy the set they came in at MSRP. The cheapest fighter tank on BL is $41, $1 above retail. Not profitable unless you bought on sale. The troopers go for $8 used, $10 new, decently high but nothing crazy. I am just making market predictions. Too many people are investing and collecting now for these sets/figures to go up in value considerably. The 2020 501st battle pack retired 3 years ago and you can buy it for $35 (inflation adjusted this set would be $37). The time to invest in Lego was 15 years ago when hardly anyone was doing it. I think it would be a bad idea financially to invest in any of these modern clones/clone sets, you'd be better off putting that money in the S&P 500. I'm open to hearing an argument how I'm wrong but you don't seem to have data to back your claims either (if were talking 2022 clones). Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) On 10/13/2025 at 9:42 AM, Kaijumeister said: I was thinking that whenever @CloneCommando99 does get around to making an Age of Ultron poster, Ultron should be a 4+ TIE Avenger (‘I was supposed to be beautiful’) whilst Vision would be a regular TIE Avenger (or perhaps a UCS TIE Avenger? Not quite what Tony, I mean CC99 wanted but still better than Ultron). Ok. I like this idea but I’ll meet you at the halfway point. The smart brick X-Wing is Ultron. And I’ll make the poster as soon as it’s officially revealed. (Day #175) In the mean time I am developing a Tie Avenger Posts Universe (TAPU) roadmap which so far includes: Tie Avengers, Inmates of the Aslume, Tie Avengers: Age of Smart Brick, Captain Brickbob: Civil War and The New Tie Avengers. Now, where are those March and May set names? Edited October 16 by CloneCommando99 Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 16 Posted October 16 18 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Man you've really kept out of that thread, then. I'm not sure what you'd classify as "modular", like obviously it wouldn't be on a 32x32 baseplate and fit on the assembly square street (though I doubt anyone's asking for that), but some form of figure-compatible modular-sized Minas Tirith is coming. I think by „modular“ he meant that some people want Minas Tirith to be split into multiple separate sets that can be joint together I remember that idea already being thrown around back in 2013 and yeah, that was obviously never gonna happen, and the latest rumours put the overdue final nail in that coffin 14 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: Modern Clones are genuinely disliked by most people and have not gone up in price. Bold statement. How do you know that a majority of people dislike them? Online discussions? Those aren‘t representative of general consumers in the slightest. Most casual buyers likely wouldn‘t be able to tell the difference between the current and 2014 CTs unless they directly compare them in front of their faces Quote
BrickPrick Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) On 10/15/2025 at 6:27 PM, Mandalorianknight said: Tarkin would be the best realistic addition, Spacetroopers would be the hail Mary. Though if we're not getting spacetroopers in the $1000 Death Slice, I think lego just doesn't know they're in the movie. An inclusion of Tarkin would sweeten the TIE Advanced deal quite considerably to me. Would need to wait for appropriate discounts based on the potential smart brick nonsense alone, but since i do that with nearly every other set anyway it would make little no no difference to me. And good thing I've got nothing to do with Lego's design team, then. I constantly forget about Space Troopers being a thing, too. About Clone Troopers being mostly disliked in modern era... Personally, wouldn't bet on that. Realistically, we don't know that for certain. We can only make assumptions based on the famous online bubble, which makes but a fraction of the overall picture. Obviously some people who used to love their Clone Troopers back then ain't a fan of how they evolved now. Kids on the other hand didn't care about the finer printed details back in the day and they probably won't care now. But are there more kids into Lego Star Wars (not that Lego is dependant on them as much anymore) now than say... a decade or so ago? Again, we don't know. All we do know for sure is that Lego is very keen on keep pumping out Clones to it's consumers. Since they got started in 2020, this year, in fact, the Extravaganza reached new heights. And that, of course, is in no small part thanks to people who are obsessed with army building. So many Lego channels are wholly centered around the idea of massive minifigure hauls. A target group, while always intended by Lego upon initially releasing Battle Packs, never quite had the reach as it has nowadays. So in conclusion, while certainly not without it's fair shair of critics or folks feeling the fatigue, love it or loathe it, looks like Lego Star Wars Clone Troopers were never more asked for than they are since their comeback. Otherwise you can't explain their omnipresence for what is soon to be the better part of this decade! Edited October 16 by BrickPrick Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) One the one hand, it‘s kinda peculiar there‘s an Imperial trooper variant from the OT we‘re still missing. On the other, it‘s essentially just a Stormtrooper with a backpack Plop a Sandtrooper backpack on there and you‘re good to go Minifig-wise, I don‘t expect much from the March wave. I assume it‘s a mixture of repeats and a handful of ‚smart’ minifigs, which, judging by the patent drawings, seem to have a special torso piece with everything else being the same Wake me up in time for the M&G and Ahsoka S2 sets! Edited October 16 by BrickBob Studpants Quote
BrickPrick Posted October 16 Posted October 16 In terms of brand new early 2026 minifigures, this missing version of Cad Bane will be everything to me. Even if i wasn't as big of a fan of this character, it would probably still be my clear standout figure. I can not wait to change my profile picture into one of my next most wanted minifigs. Might be waiting a whole while until it officially gets made, though. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted October 16 Posted October 16 4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: One the one hand, it‘s kinda peculiar there‘s an Imperial trooper variant from the OT we‘re still missing. On the other, it‘s essentially just a Stormtrooper with a backpack Plop a Sandtrooper backpack on there and you‘re good to go Minifig-wise, I don‘t expect much from the March wave. I assume it‘s a mixture of repeats and a handful of ‚smart’ minifigs, which, judging by the patent drawings, seem to have a special torso piece with everything else being the same Wake me up in time for the M&G and Ahsoka S2 sets! Putting aside that you'd at least want a different build for the backpack, the tubing would be nice to see as well. A new mold with the tube running along the side of the helmet or something would be unlikely, but even just throwing print for a loop of tubing onto the upper torso would be something. I'm not saying it's some travesty lego hasn't done them, but they're something I'd like to see. Or the more unique Legends Spacetrooper with a new armor/head mold and another new mold for a specialzed arm with the elbow cannon, miniature proton torpedo launcher, or any of the other weapons. (Seriously, wookiepedia refers to these guys as "the equivalent of a light tank") That might be a bit hasty, we don't even know what most of the march the sets are. What if that 215 piece $40 set is a 67th legion battle pack? What if the 666 piece set includes Abeloth or new Devaronians? 5 hours ago, BrickPrick said: An inclusion of Tarkin would sweeten the TIE Advanced deal quite considerably to me. Would need to wait for appropriate discounts based on the potential smart brick nonsense alone, but since i do that with nearly every other set anyway it would make little no no difference to me. And good thing I've got nothing to do with Lego's design team, then. I constantly forget about Space Troopers being a thing, too. About Clone Troopers being mostly disliked in modern era... Personally, wouldn't bet on that. I still think the Advanced doesn't have a smart brick. 473 pieces for $60 is just too suspiciously good value for SW in 2025 to have much integration beyond some stickers or maybe a figure. I mean again, we don't even need to speculate much. With how overpriced some of these sets are, the fact that they're selling and lego continues to believe it's viable to produce more of them implies there aren't mostly disliked, or that there's a large swath of the market that claims to hate and complain about them and yet is buying up all the sets. 2 hours ago, BrickPrick said: I can not wait to change my profile picture into one of my next most wanted minifigs. Might be waiting a whole while until it officially gets made, though. Gotta know who this is. Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 6 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Bold statement. How do you know that a majority of people dislike them? Online discussions? Those aren‘t representative of general consumers in the slightest. Most casual buyers likely wouldn‘t be able to tell the difference between the current and 2014 CTs unless they directly compare them in front of their faces I was being hyperbolic but I genuinely believe these clones wont go up in price as much because they aren't as good as 2014 clones. Quote
BrickPrick Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: I still think the Advanced doesn't have a smart brick. 473 pieces for $60 is just too suspiciously good value for SW in 2025 to have much integration beyond some stickers or maybe a figure. I mean again, we don't even need to speculate much. With how overpriced some of these sets are, the fact that they're selling and lego continues to believe it's viable to produce more of them implies there aren't mostly disliked, or that there's a large swath of the market that claims to hate and complain about them and yet is buying up all the sets. Gotta know who this is. Yep, I really hope so. In terms of at least price pro piece ratio, it's in line with the last TIE variants. And beyond that it definitely isn't hard to believe this being a $60 set for 2020s standards. Like how is that any different than, say, this year's ARC-170? Yeah, people who complain about something online are usually louder than the ones happy or satisfied with something. And thus, painting a misleading overall impression. When in actuality it should be clear as day that TCW themed sets reached peak popularity within the Star Wars theme. I mean, one might criticize Lego's design decisions all day long, but they ain't stupid when it comes to making business. I won't gonna give it away just yet, but maybe you fancy a little guessing game? Edited October 16 by BrickPrick Quote
Llewop Posted October 16 Posted October 16 16 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: The cheapest fighter tank on BL is $41, $1 above retail. Not profitable unless you bought on sale. The troopers go for $8 used, $10 new, decently high but nothing crazy. I am just making market predictions. Too many people are investing and collecting now for these sets/figures to go up in value considerably. The 2020 501st battle pack retired 3 years ago and you can buy it for $35 (inflation adjusted this set would be $37). The time to invest in Lego was 15 years ago when hardly anyone was doing it. I think it would be a bad idea financially to invest in any of these modern clones/clone sets, you'd be better off putting that money in the S&P 500. I'm open to hearing an argument how I'm wrong but you don't seem to have data to back your claims either (if were talking 2022 clones). I can’t believe that the 187th and tank have not gone up I bought one at retail when it came out and picked up two on separate auctions on eBay at similar price. Managed to pick up a dozen of the regular purple guys as I like them, but kind of happy that there price is low long may it continue. Just hope those galactic marines come down in price at some point because there prices at the moment are crazy. I’ve been a bit out of the loop with SW news been focusing more on my castle collection as it brings me more peace and satisfaction these days. Have there been any more leaks since we got peak at that hideous x wing. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 16 Posted October 16 10 minutes ago, BrickPrick said: I won't gonna give it away just yet, but maybe you fancy a little guessing game? I love guessing games! Can you give us a hint, e.g. which era the character's from? Or does that make it too easy? Quote
BrickPrick Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 37 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I love guessing games! Can you give us a hint, e.g. which era the character's from? Or does that make it too easy? Yeah, me too. The character in question comes from the PT era... So I don't think it's making things that much easier. Like I said, I reckon it's gonna take a while until Lego makes it an official minifigure. So I'm gonna sit on that profile picture for quite some time. Everybody is welcome to take a guess. But just once a day. Doesn't want this to be over so soon. Once it's solved, which I still think will happen way before Cad Bane has fully leaked, I will change my profile picture. This is where the fun begins. Edited October 16 by BrickPrick Quote
AD_Bricks Posted October 16 Posted October 16 58 minutes ago, BrickPrick said: The character in question comes from the PT era... So I don't think it's making things that much easier. Another hint; Does the character also have an official Skywalker Saga profile pic like BOBF Cad? That is, is the character in LEGO SW TSS? Might narrow it down a little bit at least... Quote
BrickPrick Posted October 16 Posted October 16 7 minutes ago, AD_Bricks said: Another hint; Does the character also have an official Skywalker Saga profile pic like BOBF Cad? That is, is the character in LEGO SW TSS? Might narrow it down a little bit at least... I already gave away the first hint. Now you are free to take a guess. I will give more hints later down the line. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 16 Posted October 16 1 minute ago, BrickPrick said: Now you are free to take a guess. Boss Nass Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, BrickPrick said: Yep, I really hope so. In terms of at least price pro piece ratio, it's in line with the last TIE variants. And beyond that it definitely isn't hard to believe this being a $60 set for 2020s standards. Like how is that any different than, say, this year's ARC-170? I was shocked when I found out the other day that set is apparently in the ~70 range. I got it for 30 quid, every store I've gone to since it was released it's in the 40-45 range, I assumed it was just in the 45-50 range. I know it's a very dead horse I'm beating here but as a very passive buyer of it Star Wars pricing really is something else, that Advanced being a steal is tragic Edited October 16 by Renny The Spaceman Quote
BrickPrick Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 49 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Boss Nass HOW? WHAT? WHY?! Wesa make you bombad general. And yousa gonna watcha mesa put yousa on block list ya. Well, that was easy... Game's over before it began. It escalated really quickly. But it had so much potential... Edited October 16 by BrickPrick Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: or that there's a large swath of the market that claims to hate and complain about them and yet is buying up all the sets. Yeah these people bother me, I hate modern clones and stormtroopers so I simply don't buy any sets with them. I try even not to complain about them too much but modern LSW just takes L after L, I don't have much good things to say about the theme these days. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 16 Posted October 16 1 hour ago, BrickPrick said: Wesa make you bombad general. Whoa, the second promotion in a week! My magic guessing ability strikes again! Works every time! Except when it doesn't. Quote
BrickPrick Posted October 16 Posted October 16 15 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Whoa, the second promotion in a week! My magic guessing ability strikes again! Works every time! Except when it doesn't. The second promotion, you say... What was the first? And I gotta tell you... Somehow, I knew this would happen. The second you said you love guessing games I had a bad feeling about this and thought you might crack this thing in no time. But first try? That's just brutal. How did you actually do that? I might have mentioned wanting a Boss Nass figure once in a while, but other than that... Your guess came totally out of the blue. Please elaborate. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 16 Posted October 16 5 minutes ago, BrickPrick said: The second promotion, you say... What was the first? I got cast as Captain America in the TIE Avenger-verse 6 minutes ago, BrickPrick said: Your guess came totally out of the blue. Please elaborate. I had an inkling, once you mentioned the PT it just popped into my head Quote
BrickPrick Posted October 16 Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I got cast as Captain America in the TIE Avenger-verse I had an inkling, once you mentioned the PT it just popped into my head Oh yeah... that's right. Oh man... I intentionally didn't want to make it too easy by saying TPM, which would have been dangerously close to a dead giveaway. Thought PT would still be a broad enough field for educated guesses, given how many named characters are still missing, but anyways... Fair play and all power to you. Impressive, most impressive. How long you actually think im gonna stuck with this profile picture; when will Boss Nass be released? Given the total lack of any TPM sets this whole decade, I don't wanna say it will happen until the next one. Quote
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