LEGO Star Wars Set Discussion 2025 - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Lordhelmet]

Maybe an unpopular opinion.  After watching the reviews on the juggernaut I don’t think it’s that bad.  I am not arguing that there are not issues with the set, but the vehicle itself is not that bad in my opinion, and downsizing it wasn’t a terrible idea, it has some decent play options, the shaping looks good.  The downsized vehicles have had some hits and misses (hits -x-wing, u-wing, ISD, misses, Tie Fighter, arc 170, etc) but I think the vehicle itself is good looking (minus the blue).  I say this knowing I will not be buying it for myself but it is something I am considering for my kids.

While I don’t think the downsized vehicle is bad, I would never buy it at that price.  Because this downsized the price should have also come down.  $120 is fair, and $100 on discount would have been something I would have considered for my kids, $160 is crazy, but the downsize vehicle looks decent to me. 

[Mandalorianknight]

18 minutes ago, Lordhelmet said:

Maybe an unpopular opinion.  After watching the reviews on the juggernaut I don’t think it’s that bad.  I am not arguing that there are not issues with the set, but the vehicle itself is not that bad in my opinion, and downsizing it wasn’t a terrible idea, it has some decent play options, the shaping looks good.  The downsized vehicles have had some hits and misses (hits -x-wing, u-wing, ISD, misses, Tie Fighter, arc 170, etc) but I think the vehicle itself is good looking (minus the blue).  I say this knowing I will not be buying it for myself but it is something I am considering for my kids.

While I don’t think the downsized vehicle is bad, I would never buy it at that price.  Because this downsized the price should have also come down.  $120 is fair, and $100 on discount would have been something I would have considered for my kids, $160 is crazy, but the downsize vehicle looks decent to me. 

Don't forget that it snaps like a house of cards if you hold it wrong. Depends on how old your kids are and whether or not they'd be happy to rebuild it, but that could be a recipe for a very upset child.

[BrickPrick]

1 hour ago, Lordhelmet said:

Maybe an unpopular opinion.  After watching the reviews on the juggernaut I don’t think it’s that bad.  I am not arguing that there are not issues with the set, but the vehicle itself is not that bad in my opinion, and downsizing it wasn’t a terrible idea, it has some decent play options, the shaping looks good.  The downsized vehicles have had some hits and misses (hits -x-wing, u-wing, ISD, misses, Tie Fighter, arc 170, etc) but I think the vehicle itself is good looking (minus the blue).  I say this knowing I will not be buying it for myself but it is something I am considering for my kids.

While I don’t think the downsized vehicle is bad, I would never buy it at that price.  Because this downsized the price should have also come down.  $120 is fair, and $100 on discount would have been something I would have considered for my kids, $160 is crazy, but the downsize vehicle looks decent to me. 

The better i think this thing through, the more i get to that impression too. While i stand by my opinion that Lego went too far with the downsizing, for what it is, the model is good. The proportions are very good. I like the trans blue pieces for the front and sand blue accents. The interior, for a set of it's size, is actually pretty decent as well. The terrible structural integrity is indeed not that terrible, you just gotta be more mindful where you grab it and where not. 

So now i'm moving more along the mindset that it's obviously extremely overpriced, more so than most other sets. And less question whether or not the set's got any redeeming qualities. I think for 50% off i'm gonna have a good time with it.

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Don't forget that it snaps like a house of cards if you hold it wrong. Depends on how old your kids are and whether or not they'd be happy to rebuild it, but that could be a recipe for a very upset child.

This is why communication is key. If i had any children and know about the set's weak points, i would tell my kid in advance. And remind him or her about it whenever needed. Of course, like you said, the actual age factors in and can clearly make a difference. 

 

Okay, now i'm done... allegedly. 

Edited Saturday at 06:48 PM by BrickPrick

[BrickBob Studpants]

A new Death Star minifig leaked, namely an RA-7 protocol droid! I like the photoreceptor printing on that one

[BrickPrick]

54 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

A new Death Star minifig leaked, namely an RA-7 protocol droid! I like the photoreceptor printing on that one

That's a mighty fine looking protocol droid. And would you look at that, the minifigure fully leaked from top to bottom, pretty lovely. Hopefully they can keep this pace up moving forward. Though i got a feeling the more prominent characters will continue to be revealed in a piece by piece fashion. 

Edited Saturday at 08:33 PM by BrickPrick

[Tariq j]

That RA-7 droid looks great. I don’t think the older versions of the figure had head printing did they? 

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Tariq j said:

That RA-7 droid looks great. I don’t think the older versions of the figure had head printing did they? 

They didn‘t! This is the first time the piece is receiving printing ^^

[Lordhelmet]

The printing on the eyes is a nice add, would be cool to see Vader get some.

so we have an RA-7 droid (remake from original Death Star) and Krennic, 36 to go?

[CallumPears]

1 hour ago, Lordhelmet said:

so we have an RA-7 droid (remake from original Death Star) and Krennic, 36 to go?

And we had Yularen's torso too. 

On 7/18/2025 at 10:51 AM, BrickPrick said:

That's interesting. For whatever reasons, this particular set just stopped being available on Amazon DE, as if it was retired. I literally can't get it. That might be due to the aforementioned poor performance, but in this case it would typically end up being heavily discounted. 

Yeah same in the UK. I've been waiting to get it at a discount since I only care about the Thrawn figure (and he's still too expensive to get on his own on eBay or whatever) but it's like it just disappeared from everywhere. Happened with the Spider Tank too where the only thing I wanted was the Bo-Katan figure but the set never got any good discounts. 

You'd think they'd be keeping Peridea around for a while since the battle pack just came out, but it looks like it's gone from everywhere except LEGO's own site already (e.g. Smyths specifically says it's gone and not going to be restocked), and even on the official site it's on back-order. Seems like a very short shelf life; less than a year is pretty unusual right? 

Edited yesterday at 02:59 AM by CallumPears

[Llewop]

3 hours ago, CallumPears said:

And we had Yularen's torso too. 

Yeah same in the UK. I've been waiting to get it at a discount since I only care about the Thrawn figure (and he's still too expensive to get on his own on eBay or whatever) but it's like it just disappeared from everywhere. Happened with the Spider Tank too where the only thing I wanted was the Bo-Katan figure but the set never got any good discounts. 

You'd think they'd be keeping Peridea around for a while since the battle pack just came out, but it looks like it's gone from everywhere except LEGO's own site already (e.g. Smyths specifically says it's gone and not going to be restocked), and even on the official site it's on back-order. Seems like a very short shelf life; less than a year is pretty unusual right? 

There is a site I use to track Lego offers in the U.K. and looks like the only place for the peridia set is at Smyths looks like it’s 20% off atm. I did see it in my local one yesterday but like you say online is all out of stock and rare. But it is very strange that less than a year it’s so strange. On the other hand I hated that set I was only interested in the figures and I’m quite happy I managed to get them at a reasonable price a few months ago. 

good news is there’s no way we will never get another Thrawn, Ezra or Ahsoka figure especially with Season 2 coming next year

[Kaijumeister]

22 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

He wasn‘t wrong tho, since every playset has something people were asking for for years  Sure, the August wave seriously lacks variety, but 327th CTs, Bly, Baraca, Galactic Marines, a new General Kenobi, a Snowspeeder canopy piece, a blue MTT, and a new CTT are all things people were clamouring for

No denying this to be honest. As much as I’m not intending to buy either set, it’s awesome that 2025 has finally given us a new cockpit piece for both the Eta-2 and T-47.

For those of us who’ve been collecting LSW for a decent amount of time, I think it’s easy to overlook the number of resurrected moulds this year too as the novelty factor isn’t really there, but regardless the number of new / resurrected(*) moulds this year isn’t bad:

- ARC-170 Pilot helmet*

- K2’s head / torso*

- Dedra’s hair / hat

- New rangefinder

- Death Trooper helmet*

- P1 pilot helmet

- Ventress’ lightsaber hilts(*)

- Lama Su’s head

- Pauldron

- Commando Droid head(*)

- Bacara’s helmet 

- Galactic Marine helmet 

Solid lineup of new minifigure / character parts all round.

Edited yesterday at 06:38 AM by Kaijumeister

[AD_Bricks]

After watching CTT reviews, particularly now Mandr's recent one, I still stand by my opinion that the biggest issue with that set by far (by very very far) is the price. While the stability issues are surprising when compared to other vehicle sets, they aren't that bad, and cloth kamas for the figures would have been great, but I still really like the overall appearance and the size itself doesn't trouble me. The aforementioned other issues just make the price even more painful.

Also, I don't really like Mandr's new favourite thing to say that he came up with recently, that "if we had gotten these clone troopers 10 years ago they would have been the best versions possible". Like, sure, the kamas that we were getting would have been good to still get now, and there were printing issues on some of the 2022-2024 clones (e.g. Fox and 212th), and a couple of other things, but the 2013-2017 clones weren't perfect by any means. The skin colour change is something that he's said himself was an improvement, so he must have just forgotten about that I guess? Plus they added foot printing, and helmet holes which add customisation and therefore extra fun for anyone who can get past the holes (which is most people), and the overall design change in the helmet/armour printing/design is completely subjective, but I personally consider that a drastic improvement, as I was never in love with the old design for them, especially the chest printing and the p2 helmets. And the fact that he keeps repeating this like it's dogma or something is getting a bit annoying, especially considering that it's wrong due to the aforementioned reasons.

[CloneCommando99]

Day #87 of Tie Avenger campaign.

 

RA-7 looks great.

 

Another day of waiting to hear what exactly 75421 and 75423 actually are. And a RTGPOTP trailer.

[BrickBob Studpants]

33 minutes ago, Kaijumeister said:

Solid lineup of new minifigure / character parts all round.

You forgot the most important one out of all of them, Babu Frik!

But yeah, it‘s a rather impressive list! I have to eat my own words from earlier this year, where I claimed it was gonna be a year super low on new parts  

[BrickPrick]

6 hours ago, CallumPears said:

And we had Yularen's torso too. 

Yeah same in the UK. I've been waiting to get it at a discount since I only care about the Thrawn figure (and he's still too expensive to get on his own on eBay or whatever) but it's like it just disappeared from everywhere. Happened with the Spider Tank too where the only thing I wanted was the Bo-Katan figure but the set never got any good discounts. 

You'd think they'd be keeping Peridea around for a while since the battle pack just came out, but it looks like it's gone from everywhere except LEGO's own site already (e.g. Smyths specifically says it's gone and not going to be restocked), and even on the official site it's on back-order. Seems like a very short shelf life; less than a year is pretty unusual right? 

Yep, only 35 figures to go! 

Yeah, i was primarily after the Thrawn minifigure, too. If we get very lucky, we might get him in a Lego Star Wars magazine later down the road. Even though the dual moulded legs would feel like a real premium inclusion, the Bespin Luke Skywalker showed us there are willing to sprinkle in the occasional highlight figure every now and then.  

And yes... This set basically just vanished so quickly in a lot of places. I don't think it did that bad commercially, so it's hard to comprehend the reasoning behind all of this. Does the set contain some special pieces which caused some production problems or something? In any case, i saw it on clearance on some Walmarts online with the price slashed like half off and expected these discounts for many more regions. 

2 hours ago, Llewop said:

good news is there’s no way we will never get another Thrawn, Ezra or Ahsoka figure especially with Season 2 coming next year

Yeah that's right. We will almost guaranteed get another shot at this. But let's see what set that's gonna be. And not that unimportant either... at what cost. 

2 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

- ARC-170 Pilot helmet*

- K2’s head / torso*

- Dedra’s hair / hat

- New rangefinder

- Death Trooper helmet*

- P1 pilot helmet

- Ventress’ lightsaber hilts(*)

- Lama Su’s head

- Pauldron

- Commando Droid head(*)

- Bacara’s helmet 

- Galactic Marine helmet 

Solid lineup of new minifigure / character parts all round.

I can't believe you forget the best new piece of them all... Plo Koon's head! 

2 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

After watching CTT reviews, particularly now Mandr's recent one, I still stand by my opinion that the biggest issue with that set by far (by very very far) is the price. While the stability issues are surprising when compared to other vehicle sets, they aren't that bad, and cloth kamas for the figures would have been great, but I still really like the overall appearance and the size itself doesn't trouble me. The aforementioned other issues just make the price even more painful.

Also, I don't really like Mandr's new favourite thing to say that he came up with recently, that "if we had gotten these clone troopers 10 years ago they would have been the best versions possible". Like, sure, the kamas that we were getting would have been good to still get now, and there were printing issues on some of the 2022-2024 clones (e.g. Fox and 212th), and a couple of other things, but the 2013-2017 clones weren't perfect by any means. The skin colour change is something that he's said himself was an improvement, so he must have just forgotten about that I guess? Plus they added foot printing, and helmet holes which add customisation and therefore extra fun for anyone who can get past the holes (which is most people), and the overall design change in the helmet/armour printing/design is completely subjective, but I personally consider that a drastic improvement, as I was never in love with the old design for them, especially the chest printing and the p2 helmets. And the fact that he keeps repeating this like it's dogma or something is getting a bit annoying, especially considering that it's wrong due to the aforementioned reasons.

Yep, i agree. I knew the set would be very overpriced from the very beginning. Most Lego Star Wars are in my eyes. The question is just by how much. And this one just takes it to another level. So more than ever, i wanted to know if the set itself is at least good for what it is. And while i liked many design and some functionality aspects of it, i was super shocked when the first stability issues showed up and swore myself to never support this... not even for minifigure FOMO. But now that i see a bigger and better picture, i backpaddled a bit and returned to deep discount feeling. 

I know right... I generally don't get this "if X was released Y years ago, it would have been so much better" stance. This is when a heavy dose of nostalgia kicks in and blinds you. It clouds your judgement to such a degree that makes you only wanna see the positive aspects from yesteryear, while completely ignoring today's improvements and the fact that it actually wasn't all that well and superior in every way, like you are pretending it was. It ain't exactly a one way road. But i see this kind of thinking for both minifigures and sets everywhere in the Lego Star Wars community.

It's like saying the OT is the best thing since sliced bread and the PT is hot garbage. But more realistically, i think both trilogies are closer to each other than what people used to say back in the day.

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

You forgot the most important one out of all of them, Babu Frik!

But yeah, it‘s a rather impressive list! I have to eat my own words from earlier this year, where I claimed it was gonna be a year super low on new parts  

It's good that you said "most important" and not "best". 

Yep, those assumptions are pretty amusing in hindsight, aren't they? 

Edited 21 hours ago by BrickPrick

[Brickadeer]

Not sure if it was already confirmed. Lego #66808

[Llewop]

In theory for system sets it could have been one of the best years.

they redesigned the Jedi starfighter with Ahsoka and gave us up to date CW Ahsoka and Anakin.
A new Arc170 with 3 different clone pilots. New U wing with Dedra, ISB agent and K2SO.

everyone wanted nighttrooper battle pack which we’ve now got 

a new Slave 1 with a new Jango, Boba and Kaminonan.

A silly RTG set but gives us new design snowspeeder (which will definitely form the basis of a new hoth one in the next few years) and some new character designs and (for me most importantly) new orange lightsaber blade.

then 3 clone wars based sets with 2 legions that haven’t been released yet, and remakes of two vehicles that haven’t been done in a while and based off different battles than previous versions. And also reintroducing commando battle droids. 

and lastly V19 starfighter with 3 new figures. And I forgot 3 Jedi council members in other sets as well. 

when you look at it from theory alone it’s an amazing year. Execution has been piss poor. Most the sets are too expensive at RRP, stability issues with the CTT. Also it’s overly CWs era releases and for those fans it’s good and for those who like all eras it’s ok but there is collectors here who are OT only and unfortunately they are missing out but I think that’s the nature of the game now. I think the downsizing in general is hit and miss. They were so close to having a great year but they have fumbled it. 

I still want all these sets and compared to past years and waves I’m waiting for a sale or a GWP. There is the ideas remake of an old castle ship coming out at some point and the castle fool I am will probably try to get as many as I can so Lego will get their money out of me but they are going to have to wait and it won’t be as much as what they are hoping for.

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Llewop

[ForgedInLego]

27 minutes ago, Brickadeer said:

Not sure if it was already confirmed. Lego #66808

Has the Amazon $195 for the combo MTT and battle pack set been confirmed? If so, the discount from  getting them together is the same as the VIP points you get from buying each separately direct from Lego... plus if you get a GWP you get would almost definitely beat out the poly bag Millenium Falcon

[CallumPears]

6 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

Also, I don't really like Mandr's new favourite thing to say that he came up with recently, that "if we had gotten these clone troopers 10 years ago they would have been the best versions possible". Like, sure, the kamas that we were getting would have been good to still get now, and there were printing issues on some of the 2022-2024 clones (e.g. Fox and 212th), and a couple of other things, but the 2013-2017 clones weren't perfect by any means. The skin colour change is something that he's said himself was an improvement, so he must have just forgotten about that I guess? Plus they added foot printing, and helmet holes which add customisation and therefore extra fun for anyone who can get past the holes (which is most people), and the overall design change in the helmet/armour printing/design is completely subjective, but I personally consider that a drastic improvement, as I was never in love with the old design for them, especially the chest printing and the p2 helmets. And the fact that he keeps repeating this like it's dogma or something is getting a bit annoying, especially considering that it's wrong due to the aforementioned reasons.

(Edit: not sure why the font is so big for most of this post- can't figure out how to change it lol)

I have my disagreements with MandR but to be honest I think he's (mostly) right here. 

Aside from the leg print and obviously the skin tone (I bought 300 of the new heads on PaB and have replaced all my old ones- it genuinely is such a vast improvement so I'll give them some credit and agree with you there), I by far prefer the 2013-2019 Clone design. 

The torso in particular I absolutely hate on the new ones with how messed up the proportions are, making designs like the 501st's stripe really compressed, and how they're missing the little = marking (not all Clones have that in RotS, but the vast majority do). And the helmets have some issues too (especially with the number of vents on the side which is wrong on both the new P1 and P2 helmets). The old helmets and torsos are practically 1:1 in terms of accuracy. The main thing is that I really hate when they put animation styles onto minifigures in general. I hated it when they did the CW eyes and the Rebels Stormtroopers, and I hate it here on the Clone armour. It's what stopped me from army-building the 501st in 2020.

And of course there are the far better actual physical kamas and no serious print inaccuracies (as we see with the 501st Jet Trooper, Fox, Bly, Bacara, the Galactic Marines, and others). The only notable inaccuracies I can think of from that era in general are Thrawn's rank plaque and Kanan's hair (both kinda excusable due to being based on concept art, and as we all know Kanan's hair got fixed) (I'm sure there are others I'm missing but there were certainly nowhere near as many as nowadays where it feels like every other set has something wrong with it).
Also I'm definitely on the anti-helmet holes side. In principle yeah they're a good idea but the way they implemented them is absolutely terrible. Should've done something more akin to CAC where the visors clip around the rim of the helmet (and yeah CAC's are a bit flimsy but they could easily sort that out- make them a little thicker and add in the "space helmet" style of recessed dimples in the rim rather than full-on holes to keep them in place), and now that they've replaced the rangefinders we might be seeing a new visor piece coming soon so they might as well have done it back then and done it properly. 

1 hour ago, Llewop said:

when you look at it from theory alone it’s an amazing year. Execution has been piss poor.

Yeah that's my view too (though a little more OT and Andor stuff would be nice too). There's everything from prices being too high to inaccuracies in the minifigures to design issues in the sets themselves. Just ridiculous that at the very least they couldn't have got the latter 2 sorted to try to justify the high prices. 

1 hour ago, ForgedInLego said:

Has the Amazon $195 for the combo MTT and battle pack set been confirmed? If so, the discount from  getting them together is the same as the VIP points you get from buying each separately direct from Lego... plus if you get a GWP you get would almost definitely beat out the poly bag Millenium Falcon

Wow I hadn't thought about that. Yeah VIP points are a 5% discount so really the polybag MF is the only extra, and either a different GWP or even just a double points event would beat it. 

Edited 17 hours ago by CallumPears

[Darth_Bane13]

11 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

it’s awesome that 2025 has finally given us a new cockpit piece for both the Eta-2 and T-47.

Eta-2 cockpit is less accurate and looks worse.

[Lego Nostalgia]

MandR hate is so forced, guy makes good content and I enjoy it, everyone else praises Lego for everything and defends the laziness, he doesn't  feel like a company owned channel

[wicket]

2 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Eta-2 cockpit is less accurate and looks worse.

I hate it.. the old one was beautiful 😔

[Darth_Bane13]

1 hour ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

MandR hate is so forced, guy makes good content and I enjoy it, everyone else praises Lego for everything and defends the laziness, he doesn't  feel like a company owned channel

Yeah MandR hate seems to stem from people unable to handle any criticism about Lego. When I watch a review I want to see every potential flaw and/or positive attribute in the set to know if it's worth my money.

[Mandalorianknight]

11 hours ago, Llewop said:

when you look at it from theory alone it’s an amazing year

I would argue that even from theory it's a rough year simply from the lack of variety. In theory it was a good year for clone fans, though in execution it fails. But for anyone wanting pretty much anything else, it's a rough year. Again, this is the first year time either in 25 years or EVER that we haven't had an OT imperial trooper in a single standard retail set. Obviously any sequel fans who want standard sets continue to drown. Mando actually's had a rough year as well, which is surprising, he had what, only the 4+ set? And of course you gotta shout out the prequel fans who just want stuff besides clones.

But it's not even just the clone frenzy that's the issue. This year has, I think, the worst ratio of 18+ to standard retail sets the theme's ever had. I know we have a lot of location playset fans out there, and I don't think we got a single location retail set this year, which isn't super uncommon but is something to note.

Basically, if you aren't gobbling up any clone that appears or someone filling their shelves with buildable statues, this is a rough year from concept alone.

15 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

Also, I don't really like Mandr's new favourite thing to say that he came up with recently, that "if we had gotten these clone troopers 10 years ago they would have been the best versions possible". Like, sure, the kamas that we were getting would have been good to still get now, and there were printing issues on some of the 2022-2024 clones (e.g. Fox and 212th), and a couple of other things, but the 2013-2017 clones weren't perfect by any means. The skin colour change is something that he's said himself was an improvement, so he must have just forgotten about that I guess? Plus they added foot printing, and helmet holes which add customisation and therefore extra fun for anyone who can get past the holes (which is most people), and the overall design change in the helmet/armour printing/design is completely subjective, but I personally consider that a drastic improvement, as I was never in love with the old design for them, especially the chest printing and the p2 helmets. And the fact that he keeps repeating this like it's dogma or something is getting a bit annoying, especially considering that it's wrong due to the aforementioned reasons.

Totally agree. Helmet holes are a major upgrade for clone trooper figures, they've made them a lot more customizable. I love being able to give them rangefinders, visors, and even stuff that doesn't *technically* fit like motorcycle visors for flash visors, or goggles.

The dogma-like thing is also an excellent point. It's the new talking point that's going to be rattled on for eternity because even the children watching can't be conned into thinking that lego hates the prequel era anymore. 

2 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

MandR hate is so forced, guy makes good content and I enjoy it, everyone else praises Lego for everything and defends the laziness, he doesn't  feel like a company owned channel

I don't think this is accurate at all. The most popular lego youtuber I'm aware of outside the clone bros is Jangbricks, and, I mean... c'mon. Unlike most lego youtubers, he doesn't receive sets free from lego. He buys everything himself, he's ruthlessly critical when necessary, he relentlessly criticizes lego for both actual set issues like the prices, smaller things like characters not having both helmets and hair in situations where it makes sense, and even stuff like the lifestyle photos being taken in a concrete bunker. He's probably the most critical one out there, though I'm not sure how exactly you'd quantify that.

Even the other youtubers I've seen who get sets from lego, like Ashnflash and Duckbricks, absolutely criticize lego when they think something is overpriced or poorly done. They're just, like jangbricks, able to do so in a mature and measured way.

15 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Yeah MandR hate seems to stem from people unable to handle any criticism about Lego.

You know this isn't true. This is a cheap statement that attempts to discount any criticism of MandR with the old "everyone who doesn't like my guy is a corporate shill" argument, which, again, you know is not accurate. Who here hasn't criticized lego and also dislikes MandR? Do you have any examples?

 

 

Looks like this year's walmart gift set is the 2024 clone super pack, the ambush on mandalore pack, and the Rex microfighter, which is also quite rough if they're sticking with the $50 price point, as last year's pack was $85 value for $50. (Loved that one, I was tempted to buy two, great part/figure pack.) The way it is now, with the discounts on all three of those readily availible, you're losing money by buying the bundle.

[Lego Nostalgia]

5 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I would argue that even from theory it's a rough year simply from the lack of variety. In theory it was a good year for clone fans, though in execution it fails. But for anyone wanting pretty much anything else, it's a rough year. Again, this is the first year time either in 25 years or EVER that we haven't had an OT imperial trooper in a single standard retail set. Obviously any sequel fans who want standard sets continue to drown. Mando actually's had a rough year as well, which is surprising, he had what, only the 4+ set? And of course you gotta shout out the prequel fans who just want stuff besides clones.

But it's not even just the clone frenzy that's the issue. This year has, I think, the worst ratio of 18+ to standard retail sets the theme's ever had. I know we have a lot of location playset fans out there, and I don't think we got a single location retail set this year, which isn't super uncommon but is something to note.

Basically, if you aren't gobbling up any clone that appears or someone filling their shelves with buildable statues, this is a rough year from concept alone.

Totally agree. Helmet holes are a major upgrade for clone trooper figures, they've made them a lot more customizable. I love being able to give them rangefinders, visors, and even stuff that doesn't *technically* fit like motorcycle visors for flash visors, or goggles.

The dogma-like thing is also an excellent point. It's the new talking point that's going to be rattled on for eternity because even the children watching can't be conned into thinking that lego hates the prequel era anymore. 

I don't think this is accurate at all. The most popular lego youtuber I'm aware of outside the clone bros is Jangbricks, and, I mean... c'mon. Unlike most lego youtubers, he doesn't receive sets free from lego. He buys everything himself, he's ruthlessly critical when necessary, he relentlessly criticizes lego for both actual set issues like the prices, smaller things like characters not having both helmets and hair in situations where it makes sense, and even stuff like the lifestyle photos being taken in a concrete bunker. He's probably the most critical one out there, though I'm not sure how exactly you'd quantify that.

Even the other youtubers I've seen who get sets from lego, like Ashnflash and Duckbricks, absolutely criticize lego when they think something is overpriced or poorly done. They're just, like jangbricks, able to do so in a mature and measured way.

You know this isn't true. This is a cheap statement that attempts to discount any criticism of MandR with the old "everyone who doesn't like my guy is a corporate shill" argument, which, again, you know is not accurate. Who here hasn't criticized lego and also dislikes MandR? Do you have any examples?

 

 

Looks like this year's walmart gift set is the 2024 clone super pack, the ambush on mandalore pack, and the Rex microfighter, which is also quite rough if they're sticking with the $50 price point, as last year's pack was $85 value for $50. (Loved that one, I was tempted to buy two, great part/figure pack.) The way it is now, with the discounts on all three of those readily availible, you're losing money by buying the bundle.

I like Jang however all the others are too family friendly, just no personality whatsoever

I hate ashnflash fr, basically got the youtube voice, hyper enthusiastic, won't be harsh on Lego sometimes